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:00:00. > :00:00.and Ashley Cole has signed for Roma. The defender has signed a two`year

:00:00. > :00:13.deal. That is coming up in 15 minutes.

:00:14. > :00:16.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

:00:17. > :00:20.With me are Beth Rigby, Deputy Political Editor of the Financial

:00:21. > :00:27.Times and John Kampfner, Director of the Creative Industries Federation.

:00:28. > :00:34.Let us look. The Guardian is leading with the story that the Home

:00:35. > :00:37.Secretary has announced two different enquiries into historic

:00:38. > :00:42.child abuse. Relating to the same story, the Daily Mail claims at the

:00:43. > :00:46.Home Office gave money to groups linked to paedophiles. The Daily

:00:47. > :00:50.Telegraph is leading with the airport security story. You will not

:00:51. > :00:56.fly if your phone is flat. It also has a picture from the tour France

:00:57. > :01:02.and finished in London. And the daily express describes a major

:01:03. > :01:10.breakthrough in the fight on Alzheimer 's with a simple blood

:01:11. > :01:12.test. The Guardian, the child abuse enquiry will take on the

:01:13. > :01:18.establishment. Ever since the lid was lifted on what Jimmy Savile was

:01:19. > :01:23.getting up to, so many more people have come forward and the whole of

:01:24. > :01:28.British society seems to have been roped into this and the government

:01:29. > :01:36.is acting? As you say, there are two different enquiries announced, the

:01:37. > :01:42.first is a powerful public enquiry into how complaints of sexual abuse

:01:43. > :01:48.were treated in all public buddies over several decades. The genie is

:01:49. > :01:55.out of the bottle and you cannot put it back. This will run and run.

:01:56. > :02:01.There is a second specific enquiry about the Home Office reviewing

:02:02. > :02:06.allegations of child abuse between 1979 and 1999 but the first one has

:02:07. > :02:11.the potential to be an extremely long`running story. They have

:02:12. > :02:17.decided to begin to cover this. It is hard to imagine what else they

:02:18. > :02:23.will find but as we have seen, in terms of people and personalities in

:02:24. > :02:28.the media, these stories, they just run because people come forward and

:02:29. > :02:32.when there is any accountability like this, people who have been

:02:33. > :02:37.victims and have been silent for decades, they feel that they can

:02:38. > :02:44.come out and their voice will be heard. There was a very interesting

:02:45. > :02:50.story that the BBC uncovered, there was that documentary where that

:02:51. > :02:56.one`time wet from the Tory party was interviewed and he said that they

:02:57. > :03:01.would cover it up all sorts of scandals, talking about the 1970s,

:03:02. > :03:07.and he said it might be dead or a scandal involving small boys, any

:03:08. > :03:11.sign of scandal, we would store up Ronnie points and if we could get

:03:12. > :03:17.someone out of trouble, we would. They called it the dirt book. And

:03:18. > :03:24.this was broadcast in 1985? There was no Ferrari about the reference

:03:25. > :03:31.to little boys. `` fraud. Just the existence of this dirt book, and it

:03:32. > :03:35.is quite amazing to cast your mind back to the 1980s and 1990s and

:03:36. > :03:40.think about what society was like, and we really live in a society

:03:41. > :03:48.where alleged child abuse was accepted? My prediction for what it

:03:49. > :03:55.is worth, and based on a hunch, but I think we're going to see a very

:03:56. > :04:02.broad swathe of public life, former MPs and members of the Lords,

:04:03. > :04:07.judges, who knows, an entire swathe of the British establishment in the

:04:08. > :04:14.1970s and 1980s and the early 1990s, and a lot of people, if still alive,

:04:15. > :04:24.sleeping on comfortably and thinking, what could come up? 1995,

:04:25. > :04:29.that is when I started working as a political journalist in the House of

:04:30. > :04:34.Commons, I had spent my previous decade as a young journalist

:04:35. > :04:40.abroad. Did you know about the dirt book? I did not. I had no

:04:41. > :04:44.information about what anybody was often but there was something rather

:04:45. > :04:50.tawdry about Westminster and the building and the strange habits and

:04:51. > :04:53.the rituals and there was an atmosphere of portly, middle aged

:04:54. > :05:01.men with red faces drinking too much. And to a very large degree at

:05:02. > :05:06.Westminster, it has cleaned itself up. But it still feels like a very

:05:07. > :05:13.antiquated establishment but I got the sense then of people getting

:05:14. > :05:18.away with what they could with and that culture of indulgence. Going

:05:19. > :05:26.back to this idea of what society was like, the sex register was only

:05:27. > :05:31.set up in the mid`19 90s. And I think something like this, talking

:05:32. > :05:39.about Westminster, the establishment was much more powerful 30 years ago

:05:40. > :05:45.than it is today, power has been disseminated from white privileged

:05:46. > :05:50.men to more and more people. And I think that has changed the balance

:05:51. > :05:54.and it has enabled people to bring these things forward and challenge

:05:55. > :06:01.authorities and say, what you are doing is not right. The Daily Mail,

:06:02. > :06:14.the Home Office gave money to groups linked to paedophiles. This is a

:06:15. > :06:21.paedophile exchange. This is in the headlines again. Yes, and the

:06:22. > :06:26.interesting thing when looking at the use of the word historic, that

:06:27. > :06:30.is one that is much used now, when it comes to individual cases that

:06:31. > :06:38.have gone through the courts, whether people have been convicted

:06:39. > :06:42.or acquitted, the curiosity is that while all of these actions and

:06:43. > :06:53.activities, alleged or otherwise, where illegal, even then, as we have

:06:54. > :06:56.been saying, blind eyes were turned and there was that sense of

:06:57. > :07:05.indulgence. You have the sense of a much less... Much less tolerance.

:07:06. > :07:12.And what condemnation of all of this, judging a generation that

:07:13. > :07:18.thought they could get away with it. And that is why that use of the word

:07:19. > :07:26.historic is quite important, this is a different era. That is the thing.

:07:27. > :07:36.This story, the Home Office gave nearly ?500,000 to groups linked to

:07:37. > :07:40.campaigners sex with children. The phrase is, the past is another

:07:41. > :07:49.country. Clearly, thousands of miles away, if this is what alleged `` is

:07:50. > :07:53.alleged. The Daily Mail have had a very big campaign about this because

:07:54. > :07:59.they have find links between organisations and Harriet Harman

:08:00. > :08:03.worked in when she was an activist and this particular group, so they

:08:04. > :08:10.have a particular drum to bank. What I would say, there is this case

:08:11. > :08:14.about whether or not someone from this group actually had access to

:08:15. > :08:23.the Home Office. Where these documents alleging sex abuse of

:08:24. > :08:30.children have disappeared. There is this connection but I think... It is

:08:31. > :08:34.shocking that this was a different time but the bigger issue is going

:08:35. > :08:42.to be the first enquiry, the soul`searching national enquiry and

:08:43. > :08:49.this is a specific thing. A particular element? In line with the

:08:50. > :08:57.campaign they have been running. The Telegraph, you will not fly if your

:08:58. > :09:01.telephone is flat. And if you are heading to the United States, you

:09:02. > :09:08.must prove that your phone is charged and can switch on and it is

:09:09. > :09:12.not a bomb. Inside America, this has been the rule for a very long time.

:09:13. > :09:16.They were not throw you off the flight but they would interrogate

:09:17. > :09:22.you, why is your phone not charged? They would take it away. One

:09:23. > :09:27.slightly mischievous but I had, apparently you will not be able to

:09:28. > :09:34.buy new phones or other electronic gadgets at the airport. You can buy

:09:35. > :09:39.something completely new, if it is not charged... ? I'm thinking about

:09:40. > :09:47.all of the electronic firms in those terminals, they make loads of money

:09:48. > :09:53.selling goods... If it is shrink`wrapped? No, apparently, you

:09:54. > :10:00.must take it out of the packaging. I do not know what they will do. This

:10:01. > :10:08.happened after September 11. Can you remember the chaos? Bottles of

:10:09. > :10:15.water? Taking equipment and by phone card, and that has fallen away until

:10:16. > :10:23.now. This is a different regime but it does seem to me... I would say,

:10:24. > :10:28.can the airport authorities not be more intelligent about how they can

:10:29. > :10:36.apply these rules? And apply some common`sense? It will not be

:10:37. > :10:43.everybody, it is who they decide is potentially... The old profiling

:10:44. > :10:48.question? But when people are travelling, it yields you another

:10:49. > :10:57.set of problems and worries that you will have. I haven't charged my

:10:58. > :11:06.phone, I will have two which it. `` I will have two throw it away. When

:11:07. > :11:13.the story broke one week ago about the enhanced checks and increased

:11:14. > :11:20.fears from Syria and Iraq, and all of that, do they not also say in

:11:21. > :11:29.that we brought from the US intelligence that the concerns were

:11:30. > :11:37.that people were concealing explosives inside their body? We

:11:38. > :11:40.haven't seen anything on that? Aspirate and you can put on

:11:41. > :11:48.clothing, that was something they are working on. `` a body spray.

:11:49. > :11:55.Will those scanners make full scanners for everybody? Will not be

:11:56. > :12:01.compulsory? How many hours will it take to get through the airport?

:12:02. > :12:08.Staying with The Daily Telegraph... Vernon puts allies back into the

:12:09. > :12:15.cold? Really interesting, going back to the Edward Snowden revelations,

:12:16. > :12:21.the National Security Agency was listening to the phone of Angela

:12:22. > :12:29.Merkel and the Americans were surveying their allies and not just

:12:30. > :12:35.former Cold War enemies or particular states in the Middle

:12:36. > :12:39.East. The revelation of somebody working for the German services

:12:40. > :12:46.being unmasked as a double agent last week. The Germans are

:12:47. > :12:51.pushing... The quote that I like is from a spokesman for Angela

:12:52. > :13:06.Merkel's party, we must focus strongly on our so`called allies.

:13:07. > :13:13.The Germans are fed up with being spied on by her American friends.

:13:14. > :13:18.The revelation have phone was being tapped by the Americans went down so

:13:19. > :13:25.badly. Barack Obama had to apologise publicly for it. Without actually

:13:26. > :13:29.revealing what other world leaders phones they were listening to. They

:13:30. > :13:32.get over that and now it turns out they are using some

:13:33. > :13:35.get over that and now it turns out they are using kind of double agent.

:13:36. > :13:40.And David Cameron needs Angela Merkel. He needs to keep in with

:13:41. > :13:48.her. One of the allies, that is true. This is a country where the

:13:49. > :13:53.eastern half during the Cold War, they did not think that spying on

:13:54. > :14:00.each other. It is a very raw nerve for the German people. Absolutely.

:14:01. > :14:04.The far greater emphasis on Reeva Sea issues on data protection

:14:05. > :14:11.issues, the Germans and the French and others in continental Europe as

:14:12. > :14:23.being cavalier in terms of both allowing states to survey and to

:14:24. > :14:28.tap, but also being cavalier about our own approach when it comes to

:14:29. > :14:30.commercial companies as well. This will really throw this open. OK, you

:14:31. > :14:35.will be back in about 15 minutes. Slightly shorter than usual.

:14:36. > :14:37.State Withers on BBC News. On the top of the hour we will have more on

:14:38. > :14:45.the Home Secretary's announcement there will be two new enquiries on

:14:46. > :14:49.historic child abuse allegations. But now it is time for sports day.