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:00:00. > :00:00.Northern Ireland have taken part in the annual parades by the Orange

:00:00. > :00:20.order, the most significant day of the Protestant marching calendar.

:00:21. > :00:25.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing

:00:26. > :00:27.us tomorrow. With me are David Akinsanya, campaigner and

:00:28. > :00:29.broadcaster and Vincent Moss, Political Editor of the Sunday

:00:30. > :00:32.Mirror. Tomorrow's front pages, starting with... The Observer leads

:00:33. > :00:38.with Archbishop Tutu's support for those seeking a change in assisted

:00:39. > :00:42.dying laws. The Mail on Sunday carries heavy criticism of a new

:00:43. > :00:45.Channel 4 drama due to air tomorrow night which fictionalises the real

:00:46. > :00:48.life IRA killing of Tory MP Airey Neave in 1979. The Independent on

:00:49. > :00:53.Sunday says Child Abuse victims are to sue the government over a lack of

:00:54. > :00:55.victim support. And the Telegraph says Tony Blair may be called to

:00:56. > :00:58.Parliament to explain what assurances were given to Sinn Fein

:00:59. > :01:10.to reassure 'on the run' IRA members they weren't wanted by the Police.

:01:11. > :01:14.Let's begin with the Independent. An exclusive article and a special

:01:15. > :01:21.report saying that child abuse victims are set to sue the

:01:22. > :01:23.government. Legal action over horrific impact of questioning by

:01:24. > :01:30.police and a lack of counseling. Inside the paper, it mentions a

:01:31. > :01:35.particular child abuse victim who has chosen not to be named who says

:01:36. > :01:39.that the pain is so great and that it was such a horrific experience

:01:40. > :01:45.having to relive it that he needs to try to move on. How can they sue the

:01:46. > :01:52.government and under what law? He is saying under human rights law. The

:01:53. > :01:56.government did not give them a safe place to live. That is where they're

:01:57. > :02:02.going to go with it. The problem is that, I just think that we will hear

:02:03. > :02:08.more about this. Even in this article, roughly five local

:02:09. > :02:14.authorities are mentioned here over issues that have not been dealt

:02:15. > :02:26.with. We all know about what was going on in Jersey. And these

:02:27. > :02:29.victims have struggled throughout their adult lives and they

:02:30. > :02:34.understand when you see this in the paper that it is brought back. They

:02:35. > :02:39.may very well need counseling and support through this. His guy is

:02:40. > :02:42.saying that he can do it because he doesn't have a family but imagine if

:02:43. > :02:50.you are settled into your family life and this stuff comes back to

:02:51. > :02:53.bite you. It really is awful. The very children that we are taking

:02:54. > :03:01.away from parents to look after we'd been exposed to this kind of abuse.

:03:02. > :03:04.While their lives may settle down, if the opportunity came for these

:03:05. > :03:16.people to have some kind of red dress, you would be torn wouldn't

:03:17. > :03:19.you? `` redress. I could have sued but what I wanted was an apology and

:03:20. > :03:24.an acknowledgment of what happened because you can send yourself a bit

:03:25. > :03:29.mad, thinking that no one would listen to you or believe you. I

:03:30. > :03:34.think people should have the right to sue but the problem is that the

:03:35. > :03:38.more people who do that, the money will come out of children's services

:03:39. > :03:45.and so I am not sure if it would be a good thing. The point is that the

:03:46. > :03:51.time is right for this because we are having investigations and

:03:52. > :03:54.convictions. The conditions are such that victims will finally be

:03:55. > :04:01.listened to. The culture has changed after 13 years of being told that

:04:02. > :04:08.they were making it up or fantasizing, people are starting to

:04:09. > :04:18.listen `` 30. This man is not from a home that has been featured in the

:04:19. > :04:23.past he comes from a home in Richmond in Southwest London. It is

:04:24. > :04:28.kind of symptomatic of what we're going to be seeing which is more

:04:29. > :04:33.allegations involving more homes and schools and which go right into the

:04:34. > :04:36.heart of the British establishment. There is coverage of this and many

:04:37. > :04:41.of the Sunday papers and they involve senior members of the

:04:42. > :04:47.government and the Thatcher era. These were people involved that were

:04:48. > :04:52.so powerful at the time. We have a story tomorrow of people so powerful

:04:53. > :04:56.that they were able to dismiss all the allegations and brush them aside

:04:57. > :04:59.and nothing was ever done. Finally those victims are going to have

:05:00. > :05:05.their story listen to and it is about time. All sorts of different

:05:06. > :05:12.political parties, not just one was it? They close ranks and protected

:05:13. > :05:16.each other. Definitely. Alleged rings of people within all parties

:05:17. > :05:21.and the House of Commons and the House of Lords, the judiciary, and

:05:22. > :05:26.this is what is going to make the inquiry said difficult because there

:05:27. > :05:34.are already suggestions about whether or not the invigilator will

:05:35. > :05:43.be able to do it because of her legs to the establishment. Who would be

:05:44. > :05:46.most suitable? `` links. I would like to see someone involved in the

:05:47. > :05:53.care system because they would have the knowledge regarding what goes on

:05:54. > :05:59.in the inside. They can really understand what the modus operandi

:06:00. > :06:06.was. And that was that it was OK for you to abuse children in care.

:06:07. > :06:11.Moving on to the Observer. Desmond Tutu on the side of assisted death.

:06:12. > :06:15.Lord Carey has already said that he would support this bill which would

:06:16. > :06:19.give doctors the right to administer a lethal dose to someone who is

:06:20. > :06:25.terminally ill and no longer wanted to live and now we have Desmond

:06:26. > :06:30.Tutu, known around the world as an eminent religious leader, making a

:06:31. > :06:36.similar sort of plea and referring to what he saw his friend, Nelson

:06:37. > :06:39.Mandela go through. He says that it was disgraceful the way Nelson

:06:40. > :06:43.Mandela was treated shortly before his death at the age of 95 and this

:06:44. > :06:48.is something that I had heard about that people close to him were

:06:49. > :06:51.actually charging or trying to get money out of visiting politicians

:06:52. > :07:01.for the 10th of a photo opportunity with him. `` chance. If you were a

:07:02. > :07:04.foreign leader, and let's face it, all foreign leaders did want a

:07:05. > :07:07.picture of themselves next to Nelson Mandela, that his people were trying

:07:08. > :07:14.to charge for access to Nelson Mandela. Desmond Tutu goes on to say

:07:15. > :07:20.that he is for a dignity for living and four dignity in death. He says

:07:21. > :07:23.that he reveres the sanctity of life but not at any cost so he has

:07:24. > :07:28.started to come down and show a shift in thinking about the church

:07:29. > :07:32.at least looking at the idea of assisted suicide. A huge step

:07:33. > :07:37.forward for anything to take to cause all of their teachings are to

:07:38. > :07:42.the contrary. It is not just the Christian church. Others have rules

:07:43. > :07:49.as well. As someone who is not religious, we spend a lot of money

:07:50. > :07:55.trying to save people when, if they were left to the hands of God, they

:07:56. > :07:59.might have died. But I think the thing about human dignity is the

:08:00. > :08:06.most important thing. If I was left in a vegetative state, I would not

:08:07. > :08:09.want to live and I know that. But if you are not terminally ill and in a

:08:10. > :08:18.vegetative state, is bill would not help you and that is where this bill

:08:19. > :08:25.draws the line. And it is being debated in the House of Lords next

:08:26. > :08:32.Friday. The Telegraph, Tony Blair and the IRA. He faces being summoned

:08:33. > :08:38.before Parliament to explain the secret deals made with Sinn Fein to

:08:39. > :08:43.assure suspects on the run that they were not wanted by the police. He

:08:44. > :08:49.has been accused of dodging investigations of this affair. Very

:08:50. > :08:55.shocking when this came out, romped it by a court case that could not go

:08:56. > :09:03.ahead. I think many members of the public work shocked by this. I was

:09:04. > :09:07.listening to the radio yesterday and I heard Gerry Adams singing and the

:09:08. > :09:11.difference between what he was and what he has become, the distance he

:09:12. > :09:15.has travelled to get here and the peace that has been in Northern

:09:16. > :09:20.Ireland for the last few years, we have all appreciated that. It seems

:09:21. > :09:23.a shame that all of this will be dragged up again but I do think that

:09:24. > :09:31.he needs to explain to people what the deal was because it does seem

:09:32. > :09:35.that it was backhanded and it wasn't transparent. He has given some

:09:36. > :09:42.evidence to the inquiry about this but it looks as though some of that

:09:43. > :09:45.will remain private. As with anything involving Tony Blair, it

:09:46. > :09:49.seems as though large parts of what he says or did at the time may not

:09:50. > :09:54.be public and there is increasing pressure on him to reveal what

:09:55. > :09:59.happened and that is why he is wanted to explain these so`called

:10:00. > :10:04.comfort letters to these IRA suspects. What exactly he did with

:10:05. > :10:11.Gerry Adams, what was said and what they've read and private. I'm not

:10:12. > :10:21.entirely sure that that would be beneficial `` agreed. But there is

:10:22. > :10:24.pressure to reveal it. Get therapy or have state benefits. Hundreds of

:10:25. > :10:28.thousands of people are perhaps suffering from anxiety or depression

:10:29. > :10:36.which may be reducing their chances of getting a job and ministers are

:10:37. > :10:38.suggesting that, if they aren't prepared to undergo counseling or

:10:39. > :10:44.therapy, they will have their benefits reduced. You have to be

:10:45. > :10:50.ready to have it if it is offered to you. You will not be able to turn it

:10:51. > :10:58.down, it would seem. That is the key. Nearly half of people who are

:10:59. > :11:04.on disability have issues with anxiety and depression and in order

:11:05. > :11:07.to get over those issues, the counseling could be helpful but many

:11:08. > :11:11.can't get it at the moment. Where the money would come from to do this

:11:12. > :11:18.and whether they would be offered it rather than being threatened with it

:11:19. > :11:25.remains to be seen. If the therapy was there, I guess that would be a

:11:26. > :11:34.great thing. This says that it is based on government figures, the

:11:35. > :11:44.state spends up to ?1.4 billion a year. All of the things the

:11:45. > :11:49.government has done... They're tried to save this money from unemployment

:11:50. > :11:55.but actually, this counseling will cost money and where is it going to

:11:56. > :12:00.come from? That is the problem. It just feels punitive, something to

:12:01. > :12:03.have a go at the unemployed again without actually backing it up

:12:04. > :12:20.without some kind of system. It is a bit like a moot point. It is not

:12:21. > :12:23.going to make it easy. Here it says, if you have people with treatable

:12:24. > :12:29.conditions, surely you should treat them? I have friends who are off

:12:30. > :12:32.work with depression and they still have to fill in the forms and go to

:12:33. > :12:41.the job Centre and they go into job interviews... Wouldn't this give

:12:42. > :12:45.them a way out? You have the health minister saying that it is not a

:12:46. > :12:50.sensible idea. The idea that you cart someone off to therapy and

:12:51. > :13:00.threaten them with a loss of benefits, it simply won't work. He

:13:01. > :13:08.is the health minister. Staying with the Telegraph. The day of destiny

:13:09. > :13:13.for Lionel Messi. He is one of the most popular football players in the

:13:14. > :13:24.world, lining up against Germany tonight. Is it tonight? Note,

:13:25. > :13:29.tomorrow. `` no. Has the World Cup held your attention this time? It

:13:30. > :13:37.did in the early days with the hope that England might do OK but when

:13:38. > :13:41.they got squashed out, not really. Marginally, I suppose I hope

:13:42. > :13:44.Argentina does it because it would be fantastic for Lionel Messi that

:13:45. > :13:51.the money seems to be on the Germans. Not interested? I will say

:13:52. > :13:55.Germany just to say something. I liked it when Costa Rica within. I

:13:56. > :14:04.like when there is an underdog to cheer for `` was in. A bit

:14:05. > :14:14.disappointed now. That is all for this hour. Thank you to my guests.

:14:15. > :14:20.Stay with us. At midnight, the missiles continue to fly. The latest

:14:21. > :14:31.in the conflict between Israel and Hamas militants but coming up next,

:14:32. > :14:44.World Cup Sportsday.