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:00:13. > :00:15.Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers

:00:16. > :00:21.With me are the columnist for The Independent,

:00:22. > :00:29.Yasmin Alibhai`Brown and James Millar from the Sunday Post.

:00:30. > :00:41.Good evening both. The front pages. The striking image on the Observer.

:00:42. > :00:49.A Palestinian woman in the rubble of Gaza pleading for help from the

:00:50. > :00:54.outside world. The Mail on Sunday claims the new Defence Secretary,

:00:55. > :01:04.Michael Fallon is at the centre of a row after allegedly calling a female

:01:05. > :01:09.writer in a bar "a sluut." The paper says he later apologised. The Sunday

:01:10. > :01:17.Telegraph, reports that families of the victims of flight MH17 may sue

:01:18. > :01:20.President Putin for his alleged links to the pro`Russian rebels in

:01:21. > :01:25.Ukraine who are said to have shot down the passenger plane. The lead

:01:26. > :01:29.in the Sunday Times is the call by the Deputy Prime Minister to strip

:01:30. > :01:34.Russia of the 2018 World Cup following the shooting down of the

:01:35. > :01:41.yet. And instant test for cancer is the headline in the Sunday Express.

:01:42. > :01:45.. Mitt Now the Observer. We have seen people coming out of hide,

:01:46. > :01:50.James, going back to what they Shaw thought would be their homes to find

:01:51. > :01:54.that everything has gone? Yeah. The important word is there "a pause",

:01:55. > :01:59.unfortunately, as you said, the ceasefire seems to have broken down.

:02:00. > :02:06.We're heading back to square one again. It's a nice enough piece. It

:02:07. > :02:10.covers all the bases. I get the slight feeling there are no words to

:02:11. > :02:17.really convey the horror of what he is seeing. He says that, "it's a

:02:18. > :02:23.moon scape from which the smell of death at times wafted" terrible for

:02:24. > :02:26.all concerned out there. Trying to retrieve the dead will be

:02:27. > :02:29.impossible. Hamas have GUNFIRing rockets. They don't believe an

:02:30. > :02:34.extension of the truce is in their interests? I think now, you know,

:02:35. > :02:38.there is just no way, I personally, and most other people in this

:02:39. > :02:42.country, would talk about Hamas in the same breath as what Israel has

:02:43. > :02:47.been inflicting because it's so disproportionate. Actually, that's

:02:48. > :02:53.what this eyewitness is also saying. You know, he actually says, "we have

:02:54. > :02:57.to decide whether this was proportionate or if the destruction

:02:58. > :03:07.amounts to a war crime." I think, you know, this is the month of

:03:08. > :03:10.Ramadan. It's Eid on Monday. This awaits the people of Gaza. I don't

:03:11. > :03:16.know when it's going to end. I think we can't let this go on, talk in

:03:17. > :03:23.equal terms. In terms of what Hamas is doing. I have no ` I'm not allied

:03:24. > :03:28.to the Hamas rockets or anything, but it is so disproportionate now we

:03:29. > :03:31.have to talk about what this Israeli government. It's not all Israeli

:03:32. > :03:38.governments, but certainly this Israeli government is pushing things

:03:39. > :03:42.to a point where, it's appalling. We understand the Israeli public are in

:03:43. > :03:46.favour of what the government is doing, to try to protect them from

:03:47. > :03:51.the rockets that land in their territory, fired from Gaza. We were

:03:52. > :03:55.speaking last night to a journalist who says the Israeli public aren't

:03:56. > :04:00.being shown the papers we are seeing? Yeah. I think part of it is

:04:01. > :04:04.the horror of it, you feel so helpless. This has been going on for

:04:05. > :04:10.so long. We are seeing awful pictures. Reading the words. Nothing

:04:11. > :04:13.anybody here does or says or indeed seems politicians from around the

:04:14. > :04:18.world do or say, is changing anything, for either side. I mean,

:04:19. > :04:22.you know, it's a moral maze, isn't it? Hamas have started firing

:04:23. > :04:28.rockets back into Israel. They know the result of that is going to be.

:04:29. > :04:34.It will be Israel piling in again. I'm sorry, after what we've seen,

:04:35. > :04:38.children, places where children were taking refuge. Imagine if you were

:04:39. > :04:43.there and I was there, and you were witnessing this, tell me, our rage

:04:44. > :04:48.would not be absolute. You know, I'm trying to put myself into that

:04:49. > :04:51.position where children. There are no Israeli children, thank God, who

:04:52. > :04:56.have been killed in the latest. There have not been Israeli women.

:04:57. > :05:02.Thank God, who have been killed. We have seen far too much devastation

:05:03. > :05:06.in the civilian communities. Here, I don't know whether this is an

:05:07. > :05:13.accurate figure or not, in one of the papers it is was reported that

:05:14. > :05:16.only 15% of Britons now, a YouGov poll showed, approve of what Israel

:05:17. > :05:20.is doing. It's not right. You are still dealing with an organisation

:05:21. > :05:23.that is regarded as a group of terrorists, Hamas, who don't even

:05:24. > :05:30.believe that Israel has a right to exist? OK. I accept that Hamas has

:05:31. > :05:33.not been ` actually Hamas is not good for the Palestinian people.

:05:34. > :05:39.Even so, you know, we had the IRA. We had the IRA for years and years

:05:40. > :05:44.and years. We did not do what the Israeli government is doing. We

:05:45. > :05:47.didn't, did we? We didn't send bombs into civilian areas in Northern

:05:48. > :05:53.Ireland. We didn't resolve the conflict quickly, did we? We did not

:05:54. > :05:55.attack civilians? What happened was essentially, eventually, something

:05:56. > :05:59.had to change. That's what happens ` that is the thing here. Everybody `

:06:00. > :06:05.it's not almost that everyone is as bad as each other. There issen issue

:06:06. > :06:11.of proportion al. Somebody on either side needs to stand up and say `

:06:12. > :06:17.this is not the way to go. It's been going on `` Pursue peace. . Gaza has

:06:18. > :06:22.been squeezed, humiliated. Its resources... You can't treat a

:06:23. > :06:25.people like this. I'm so shocked that people with this history learnt

:06:26. > :06:31.the wrong lessons from their own history. I admire Israelis standing

:06:32. > :06:34.up. There are a lot of very good Israeli people, wonderful writers,

:06:35. > :06:40.who have spoken out and written about this for years. But at the

:06:41. > :06:44.moment they are powerless. They are powerless in Israel to do anything.

:06:45. > :06:48.I will move you on to another story on the Observer. That could take up

:06:49. > :06:54.the whole review, couldn't it, that story. So much to say, or not say.

:06:55. > :06:59.NHS managers paid ?1.6 billion in layoff deals since 2010. The cost of

:07:00. > :07:03.the redundancy payments to NHS managers who then, it seems, Yasmin,

:07:04. > :07:08.few weeks later, few months later, come back either full`time or

:07:09. > :07:12.part`time contracts? We are in the wrong job, aren't we? This is what

:07:13. > :07:18.we should have got into, become managers. I mean, the figure is

:07:19. > :07:26.startling. ?1.6 billion! Yeah. It's a lot of money, isn't it? A lot of

:07:27. > :07:29.managers. A lot of managers. If they are getting rid of them and rehiring

:07:30. > :07:32.doesn't it mean they need them in the first place. That it was the

:07:33. > :07:36.wrong reform? If you paid them money, they go away, the service is

:07:37. > :07:42.better and leaner and cheaper, great. Clearly, they need to go.

:07:43. > :07:45.They are coming back, yet it would appear there are certain indicators

:07:46. > :07:50.that the service is not getting better. There are issues about A

:07:51. > :07:55.waiting list times, for example, and stuff like that. So the sort of

:07:56. > :08:00.conclusion perhaps is that a lot of money is being spent to no real end.

:08:01. > :08:04.Now some of the Trusts are in real crisis, aren't they? A number of

:08:05. > :08:08.Trusts which are almost bankrupt. This figure, when you consider that

:08:09. > :08:14.particular situation really makes no sense at all. Yeah a lot of nurses

:08:15. > :08:19.wages or A units or maternity units, whatever. The Sunday

:08:20. > :08:25.Telegraph, British lawyers say the Russian President could face a class

:08:26. > :08:29.action for his links to separatists who are thought to have shot down

:08:30. > :08:36.this plane. We are still in the investigation stages. Bodies haven't

:08:37. > :08:41.been recovered, you might understand the feeling you want to take legal

:08:42. > :08:45.action. How realistic could this be Not very. A lot of people on Sunday

:08:46. > :08:49.Telegraph have gone on holiday. They would like to get a splash about the

:08:50. > :08:56.airliner. The strongest line they can come up with is the potential

:08:57. > :09:00.for a lawsuit. They are not really going to sue Putin. The intention

:09:01. > :09:05.sends a message, doesn't it? No, lawyers are having a field day. We

:09:06. > :09:08.had a similar thing tried with Lockerbie all those years ago, it

:09:09. > :09:13.came to nothing. This one makes less sense. The courts in America,

:09:14. > :09:18.British lawyers and American lawyers, how will they get the

:09:19. > :09:22.leader of Russia to even attend? It'ses... Not fair to the families

:09:23. > :09:28.actually to give them this kind of false hope. That is it. Yeah. The if

:09:29. > :09:31.we look at the picture on the Sunday Telegraph, "worth the wait"

:09:32. > :09:36.congratulations to Zoe Smith. The moment she realises she has won

:09:37. > :09:44.Commonwealth Gold in Glasgow, beating her Welsh rival. Not only

:09:45. > :09:51.can she left heavyweights she can do backward somer sets, she used to be

:09:52. > :09:57.a gymnast. Brilliantly caught. Mail on Sunday. This is a woman who is a

:09:58. > :10:03.columnist, has a book to sell, referring in the Mail to something

:10:04. > :10:07.that Michael Fallon, the new Defence Secretary said to her some years

:10:08. > :10:12.ago, James. Not a current story, is it? Well, it's a current story. He

:10:13. > :10:17.has been promoted. That's the kind of new thing, I suppose. Also, as

:10:18. > :10:23.you mentioned, she has a book out to publicise. A Cabinet Minister

:10:24. > :10:27.calling a woman "a slut" is a bad thing. No doubt about that. The

:10:28. > :10:33.question is, he didn't, by anybody's account, just say, "you're a slut"

:10:34. > :10:40.or anything like that. He was referring to her column in which she

:10:41. > :10:46.would, apparently, tell of her one night stands,, drug taking and

:10:47. > :10:51.long`running affair with a married man. Her friends called her that. I

:10:52. > :10:59.can't believe I am' saying this on TV. Funniest PR ideals. Make a fuss,

:11:00. > :11:05.for a newly appointed Secretary of State. Who doesn't like Michael

:11:06. > :11:08.Fallon. I think she's been very clever. I don't think it's that

:11:09. > :11:14.serious. One of the best`selling papers in this country has bitten.

:11:15. > :11:21.Again, it's holiday time. But, what is so striking though, I think, is

:11:22. > :11:32.the content of this book. Which is, in my view, fairly risquee. Not

:11:33. > :11:38.something you would be writing. I should be so lucky. The Sunday Post.

:11:39. > :11:43.This is talking about the twin sister of Mikaeel who was killed by

:11:44. > :11:48.his mum in January. He has now been convicted. We were reporting that

:11:49. > :11:52.yesterday. A battle over who should have custody of his twin sister,

:11:53. > :11:58.James? An absolutely horrific story in the first place and it gets worse

:11:59. > :12:04.with now the father of the remaining twin and his father, the

:12:05. > :12:09.grandfather, apparently, battling for custody of her. It's going to

:12:10. > :12:14.make that ` that little girl is in a terrible situation. It will only

:12:15. > :12:18.make it worse. A family that is not really showing the signs of

:12:19. > :12:22.stability you would want? No the grandfather says he doesn't think

:12:23. > :12:28.his son, the lifestyle his son leads, makes him worthy really of

:12:29. > :12:32.getting this child. A twin. I mean, this is so tragic. The so tragic.

:12:33. > :12:38.Let us finish with the Sunday Times. Strip Russia of the World Cup,

:12:39. > :12:42.Clegg. Pull the plug on Putin or look weak. Nick Clegg trying to get

:12:43. > :12:47.the World Cup to be taken from Russia. Supposed to be staged there

:12:48. > :12:53.in 2018 following the shooting down of the Malaysian airlines jet. Will

:12:54. > :12:58.FIFA feel inclined to do this? No. Basically. Dealt with. If Putin

:12:59. > :13:02.wasn't worried about a lawsuit that is not going to happen. He will

:13:03. > :13:07.hardly be worried about Nick Clegg saying take away the World Cup. I

:13:08. > :13:13.don't think FIFA or President Putin, unfor too you anywayly are listening

:13:14. > :13:18.to him. It's a long time ago. A long time away. FIFA... What more can we

:13:19. > :13:22.say about FIFA? Is they will be outraged about this! No, I don't

:13:23. > :13:25.think so. I don't think so. That dealt with that then. Several

:13:26. > :13:29.newspapers have their front pages dismissed. If you have any comments

:13:30. > :13:37.about the sort of stories we have been talking about, you can contact

:13:38. > :13:44.us with those comments on Twitter using the # BBC papers. Stay with

:13:45. > :13:49.us, we will have the latest on the conflict in Gaza. Coming up next,

:13:50. > :13:52.Reporters.