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:00:00. > :00:00.say that a doctor who treated a Liberian suffering from the Ebola

:00:00. > :00:20.virus has contracted the disease. An earthquake has killed at least 398

:00:21. > :00:39.people in south`west China. Time for a look at the front pages. Thank you

:00:40. > :00:43.for joining us. Familiar faces. It comes as no surprise what is on the

:00:44. > :00:50.front pages but what is interesting are the images that are selected of

:00:51. > :00:55.the commemorations marking the centenary of World War I. There are

:00:56. > :01:03.so many pictures that could have been chosen. The Express: The day

:01:04. > :01:08.the world remembered them. When you have a tabloid newspaper, there are

:01:09. > :01:13.simple choices for the front page picture, because it is mainly the

:01:14. > :01:18.picture that sells the paper. Pictures with bright colours always

:01:19. > :01:21.do better. When you have an opportunity to use something that

:01:22. > :01:25.has a lot of the colour red in it, it is an opportunity that photo

:01:26. > :01:32.editors grab it with both hands. And the Daily Star has exactly the same

:01:33. > :01:41.shop. But then you go on to something like the Metro, they have

:01:42. > :01:44.gone for a picture of the Duchess of Cambridge laying a wreath in

:01:45. > :01:53.Belgium. And the Daily Mail have done it again. A picture of Kate and

:01:54. > :01:58.Harry and the Archbishop of Canterbury in darkness. The Mirror

:01:59. > :02:06.have chosen very dark pictures of the Tomb of the Unknown Warrior.

:02:07. > :02:17.Let's look at the images the papers have chosen. Red poppies raining

:02:18. > :02:20.down in Dorset. And clearly in the uniforms that were worn by so many

:02:21. > :02:29.men that went into a war they really believed they could win. And so many

:02:30. > :02:33.of them were signing up but none of them could have had any idea what

:02:34. > :02:38.they were heading into. That is the difficulty with this. This is about

:02:39. > :02:46.a myth, it is not about historian. I'm sorry to go through this. Every

:02:47. > :02:51.editorial piece today, there was always one fact that was inevitably

:02:52. > :02:56.wrong. What happened here was that these people were a national army,

:02:57. > :02:59.they were an army that was configured to be in colonial wars

:03:00. > :03:04.like the Boer War, where they did not do so well. They had been

:03:05. > :03:12.thoroughly reformed and they went to fight row in France and took a

:03:13. > :03:18.tasting. The casualty levels `` they took a beating. The casualty levels

:03:19. > :03:21.really shocked the politicians. Within three weeks. It was the

:03:22. > :03:27.Battle of Mons and then the long retreat, where the brunt was born by

:03:28. > :03:34.the French. We are not hearing too much about that. The brunt on the

:03:35. > :03:39.east was born by the Russians. But the British plug the line and by the

:03:40. > :03:46.subsequent spring, that army was broken and it was finished. And it

:03:47. > :03:54.was finished at Ypres. That is their history. But this myth is, oh, what

:03:55. > :03:59.a lovely war and the last great scene of Blackadder goes Forth. That

:04:00. > :04:04.is the iconography. We are looking back at the beginning of a war from

:04:05. > :04:07.a very long distance. This was the piece that I wrote in the Evening

:04:08. > :04:12.Standard. The unfinished business is coming up. It comes up in a lot of

:04:13. > :04:19.the copy but the finest piece that I have read was one written by one of

:04:20. > :04:24.the oldest historians, Sir Michael Howard, who said that actually, when

:04:25. > :04:30.people went to war, not particularly the Britons but the Germans, some

:04:31. > :04:34.French, they were welcoming the war. They thought it was going to be real

:04:35. > :04:38.excitement. They were going to settle the old scores and it would

:04:39. > :04:44.be over by Christmas. And had it been over by Christmas, we would not

:04:45. > :04:48.have got the result many were really wanting. I find it very moving

:04:49. > :04:54.because we are trying to take a snapshot of an age and yet the more

:04:55. > :05:00.you turn the prison, when you look 360 degrees, it was not a happy

:05:01. > :05:04.Europe, it was a Europe that was quarrelling with its self, where a

:05:05. > :05:08.small fights have been doused down for about 20 years before and

:05:09. > :05:13.suddenly it exploded into this and went on for longer and deeper and

:05:14. > :05:18.indeed, the world changed. Now, why the world changed I think is going

:05:19. > :05:20.to be a big thing that we will come up to as we go through the various

:05:21. > :05:25.stages of these commemorations. And we will be looking at the First

:05:26. > :05:28.World War in an area that I do find fascinating because it is not

:05:29. > :05:33.static, this picture. We will have a different view of the road and

:05:34. > :05:40.ourselves by the time we come to 2018. `` a different view of the war

:05:41. > :05:45.and ourselves. By the end of the war, we found out about the truth of

:05:46. > :05:51.the concentration camps. World War II. And that was used as a form of

:05:52. > :05:56.justification, a revisionist justification to justify why we had

:05:57. > :06:00.been fighting. World War I has the same revisionism. Because World War

:06:01. > :06:03.II was a justified war, we like to use that to justify even further

:06:04. > :06:08.back in history World War I, to say oh, it was the Germans again and the

:06:09. > :06:13.same kind of thing will stop and culturally, it becomes part of the

:06:14. > :06:17.same messy thing. I think that is the most powerful element in this

:06:18. > :06:18.because what you get out of this, and you are quite right in that in

:06:19. > :06:53.the very end, was the Second World War where a

:06:54. > :07:03.great journalist, one of the heroes of our trade, did a book called the

:07:04. > :07:06.The Good War. The Second World War could be the good war and it

:07:07. > :07:10.coloured this one because if you look at the way this was regarded in

:07:11. > :07:13.the immediate aftermath, particularly to one of my

:07:14. > :07:20.grandfathers, who was horribly injured in the most terrible

:07:21. > :07:24.fashion, you lived in misery, that this was the bad war and that no

:07:25. > :07:29.good came of it and no good came of the conduct of... David Cameron

:07:30. > :07:37.described World War I as one of the most is not the most horrific war

:07:38. > :07:45.ever. But he also said... But why do we think that this war? Yes, the

:07:46. > :07:52.experience. It is Blackadder, it is the Somme, but why do we say that it

:07:53. > :07:55.is worse than any other thing? I suppose they were not in lines of

:07:56. > :07:59.trenches but look at the levels of attrition in the American civil

:08:00. > :08:03.war. It is not trivial to bring that out because the American papers have

:08:04. > :08:06.been dealing with the 150th anniversary of the American civil

:08:07. > :08:11.war, which took out somebody in almost every family. And very

:08:12. > :08:15.intelligently as well. I didn't think that there has been real

:08:16. > :08:19.thought put into these papers, how to balance it and how to give the

:08:20. > :08:24.image. It is not celebratory in any way, which people had feared. But

:08:25. > :08:36.how do you do the commemoration, particularly in view of you dies? We

:08:37. > :08:39.have seen the images of the reconciliation between the European

:08:40. > :08:43.leaders... Let's look at the Metro because that is a particular moment.

:08:44. > :08:48.And in one way, one of the young members of the Royal family on the

:08:49. > :08:53.front plate will appeal to some of the younger readers. It comes down

:08:54. > :08:58.to in the end trying to get a very complicated series of not one event

:08:59. > :09:01.but many others across using just one photograph. It boils down to

:09:02. > :09:05.show business in the end and that is what the Duchess of Cambridge

:09:06. > :09:09.represents. She represents a kind of a younger generation of Britain, a

:09:10. > :09:16.hope for a future. She is a mother and all the rest of it. I could not

:09:17. > :09:23.agree more. And she is used to say, oh, don't we feel dreadful. But she

:09:24. > :09:27.is very pretty. If William had married a German princess, I don't

:09:28. > :09:34.think she would be used in the same way. Then again, in 1917, the Royal

:09:35. > :09:38.Family changed its name because they did not want to sound Germany any

:09:39. > :09:42.more. This was one family that has spread its tentacles across Europe,

:09:43. > :09:47.which then started fighting, the statesman paid into it, the

:09:48. > :09:51.politicians got into it, busy telling these nations that they

:09:52. > :09:54.needed to start fighting. And now we have politicians like David Cameron

:09:55. > :09:59.and Michael Gove saying this was a justified sacrifice. 100 years on,

:10:00. > :10:08.they are trying to justify the death of 17 million men stop I'm not there

:10:09. > :10:12.is a way to do it. Another photograph of a member of the Royal

:10:13. > :10:16.family. This is all incredibly important as well. And you think of

:10:17. > :10:21.some of the surveys that came out on the last Remembrance Day. Many young

:10:22. > :10:26.people were confused about what the Hoppy represented, why you had to

:10:27. > :10:32.wear it, what war it was from. `` being poppy. Was it to remember

:10:33. > :10:38.sacrifice or a piece? Images like this might draw in some of those

:10:39. > :10:48.people. It is a good point. I'm slightly involved in all of this as

:10:49. > :10:54.Commissioner of Commonwealth War Graves. And the issue with schools,

:10:55. > :10:59.because it is on the curriculum, there is a great deal of interest.

:11:00. > :11:05.And the interest index went right up but the basis of knowledge was, as

:11:06. > :11:11.you say, astonishingly low. He is very interesting. I think that the

:11:12. > :11:15.Royal family have orchestrated this very well and very subtly because

:11:16. > :11:20.they are also sharing the load, the young royals, in doing the really

:11:21. > :11:28.important commemoration is of the Second World War. Why are they

:11:29. > :11:34.important? The last big ones were D`Day. It is the last time you will

:11:35. > :11:40.have veterans who have real memories. They were saying to me

:11:41. > :11:44.that they will not turn up again. He is quite extraordinary. With

:11:45. > :11:52.veterans, he has his mother's touch. At Casino, you made it clear...

:11:53. > :11:57.There were a lot of New Zealand fighters. They had a terrible time.

:11:58. > :12:00.The veterans from New Zealand got a lot of stick. He made it clear to

:12:01. > :12:04.every single veteran that if they wanted to talk to him, he would find

:12:05. > :12:08.the time to talk to them full of the must have spoken with more than 200

:12:09. > :12:12.in the space of a few days. He is very important. We have seen the

:12:13. > :12:14.three principles. Harry, his brother and his sister`in`law. And they will

:12:15. > :12:30.be going Gallipoli. An image with the Archbishop of

:12:31. > :12:36.Canterbury as well and there with the lanterns which have been the

:12:37. > :12:41.focus of the this evening. Between these newspapers, coming back to the

:12:42. > :12:44.reason why tabloids, the most successful newspapers, choose a

:12:45. > :12:48.particular story on the front page, the Sun is generally read by young

:12:49. > :12:54.men. They can identify more with Harry than anyone. He is a veteran,

:12:55. > :12:59.a member of the military. The story they have got a letter he has

:13:00. > :13:06.written, says, if we get bowled out there is nothing for it. They can

:13:07. > :13:13.relate. Other newspapers comment on the officer class. Broadsheets speak

:13:14. > :13:17.about David Cameron's uncle who was lost in the war. That isn't to say

:13:18. > :13:22.an officer dying isn't worse than Tommy dying. It means that some

:13:23. > :13:27.papers focus on the working`class element and others for the kind of

:13:28. > :13:33.people of a class who made decisions at the time. The Daily Mail goes for

:13:34. > :13:40.a younger man and woman and an older man, more family focused. Briefly,

:13:41. > :13:45.let's look at the Independent, which always tries to be different. In

:13:46. > :13:55.effect, the front page looks like it's turned off its own lights. It

:13:56. > :14:02.is similar to the Mirror. The story of the unknown warrior is one of the

:14:03. > :14:08.most moving parts. They easy and four bodies, perhaps Guardsmen, they

:14:09. > :14:18.chose one at random, brought him home and buried him in Westminster

:14:19. > :14:29.Abbey. It was an amazing thing. It was a catharsis. This is Sebastien

:14:30. > :14:37.for a looks's paper, Birdsong `` Faulks. It is a deft touch. What I

:14:38. > :14:42.do think though, speaking of the Unknown Warrior, such is the

:14:43. > :14:47.technology today, if we were to start again, you could find out

:14:48. > :14:55.exactly who it was. I went to the laboratory of the Dutch war dead,

:14:56. > :14:59.who recover 40 Khedive as per year from World War II and they were

:15:00. > :15:06.getting people from the Warwickshire Regiment and they could say that we

:15:07. > :15:27.grew up on the borders of summer `` Somerset and so on. `` . I like the

:15:28. > :15:33.argument between the poets, the correspondence and the public and

:15:34. > :15:38.the posh historians, and the posh historians aren't having their own

:15:39. > :15:44.way on this. Let's move on to the Guardian. They are doing something

:15:45. > :15:49.clever, they have tried to make what happened to count for something that

:15:50. > :15:55.is happening today, linking the conflict around us in the Middle

:15:56. > :16:02.East and asking, well saving, we have had a century to count the cost

:16:03. > :16:05.of war. For those who don't know, the end of the Foles toward war is

:16:06. > :16:13.when Britain started occupying Palestine. It created a lot of what

:16:14. > :16:21.we are looking at now with ISIS producing a caliphate. The

:16:22. > :16:31.Guardian's copy comes down to celebrity. We have the historian,

:16:32. > :16:35.Dan snow, no rating. You have got one particular relative of the

:16:36. > :16:39.16`year`old who was scouted and shot, reading from his mother's

:16:40. > :16:48.letter to the War office, asking for news of his son `` Dan Snow,

:16:49. > :16:52.narrating. They are used as an afterthought, the Tommy, the average

:16:53. > :16:59.person, is used to tail off at the end. The majority of the stories are

:17:00. > :17:05.about celebrity, showbiz, someone from... There isn't any reason to

:17:06. > :17:12.have that. When it becomes your sole focus, it takes the mood away. It

:17:13. > :17:19.oversimplifies it. The times have been even bolder than the Guardian

:17:20. > :17:26.and they have tried to bring the commemorations and make them more

:17:27. > :17:34.relevant. A slender branch of hope. I couldn't find the hope in all of

:17:35. > :17:43.this. The ceasefire that has been announced tonight. It is giving a

:17:44. > :17:48.reflection of the mood in Glasgow. With the Commonwealth Games and the

:17:49. > :17:54.service in the cathedral. As you say, quite rightly, he was trying to

:17:55. > :17:58.look for the no more War message that he hopes will get through to

:17:59. > :18:06.Gaza `` war. It will be very interesting. The bit I thought might

:18:07. > :18:14.come up, which will come up soon, is the way, of course we will have

:18:15. > :18:17.terrible things, but war changed by dimension in a huge degree and

:18:18. > :18:25.someone did it today, I saw in an inside page, they had the nearest

:18:26. > :18:33.thing to a biplane. By the end, it became a very big air war. On the

:18:34. > :18:39.1st of April, 1918, you have the foundation of the RA at, the first

:18:40. > :18:47.independent air force in the world `` RAF. This changes everything for

:18:48. > :18:54.the worse because you get hundreds, thousands, millions of civilians.

:18:55. > :19:04.Some of the things we have seen in Gaza to a great scale. It is very

:19:05. > :19:07.difficult as you say, this enormous portmanteau of half memories, to

:19:08. > :19:15.simplify and get a straight narrative. Do you think that we got

:19:16. > :19:22.the coverage right? So many events and thoughts to mark. These are just

:19:23. > :19:25.the front pages, this is a snapshot. You would have to read everything

:19:26. > :19:29.and even then you would only have a snippet of what you have got. I

:19:30. > :19:36.don't have the same optimism that after four years of going over the

:19:37. > :19:41.anniversaries, that as a culture, we will have a better grasp of what the

:19:42. > :19:50.First World War involved. We had a new RAF, we got new pilot, zips,

:19:51. > :19:56.teabags, lots of things. Thank you for your thoughts and for taking us

:19:57. > :20:07.through the papers for tomorrow. Thanks to you for joining us.

:20:08. > :20:12.Thanks for tuning into the latest thoughts for the weather prospect

:20:13. > :20:18.for the rest of the week, the weekend and beyond. There is

:20:19. > :20:19.something interesting for the second half of the weekend,