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:00:00. > :00:00.action from the super cup final, and Gareth Bale's return to Cardiff with

:00:00. > :00:17.rail Madrid. That is in 15 minutes, after the Papers.

:00:18. > :00:23.Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers are going to be

:00:24. > :00:27.bringing us tomorrow morning. With me Sam Coates, Deputy political

:00:28. > :00:31.editor at The Times, and Randeep Ramesh, social affairs editor at the

:00:32. > :00:34.Guardian. Tomorrow's front pages, we'll take a look at what has

:00:35. > :00:39.arrived so far tonight. The Independent says that ten different

:00:40. > :00:42.enquiries have been launched in under three years into Greater

:00:43. > :00:46.Manchester Police, and specifically into its handling of the rape and

:00:47. > :00:50.sexual abuse cases. The Financial Times has a striking image of a

:00:51. > :00:54.Russian aid convoy. Hundreds of tracks are currently on their way

:00:55. > :01:01.towards eastern Ukraine. And a warning from Colonel Tim Collins is

:01:02. > :01:05.the Telegraph's front page tonight. The retired military officer, famous

:01:06. > :01:08.for his rousing speech on the eve of the Iraq war, says that Britain is

:01:09. > :01:12.failing in its moral obligation to intervene. A photograph of the late

:01:13. > :01:15.Robin Williams, found dead in an apparent suicide at his home on

:01:16. > :01:21.Monday, dominates the front of the Daily Star. It is also the image

:01:22. > :01:25.that fills the front page of Metro, which says that the agony of the

:01:26. > :01:28.actor's final hours has been revealed. And Robin Williams and his

:01:29. > :01:32.daughter are on the front of the Express. That paper also has an

:01:33. > :01:36.update on its campaign to try to end hospital car parking charges.

:01:37. > :01:39.Meanwhile, the Daily Mail speculates that financial worries may have

:01:40. > :01:43.played a part in Robin Williams' death. The Guardian leads with news

:01:44. > :01:46.that we have been covering here this evening, that Britain is

:01:47. > :01:53.intensifying its involvement in northern Iraq.

:01:54. > :01:56.Welcome to the news channel tonight. We will start with Iraq, and

:01:57. > :02:02.particularly with what the Telegraph has to say. Colonel Tim Collins, one

:02:03. > :02:08.of the media's favourite retired military officers. Will this strike

:02:09. > :02:12.a bit of a nerve, do you think? It certainly plays into a growing

:02:13. > :02:18.chorus of calls for Parliament to be recalled and for greater

:02:19. > :02:24.intervention, and perhaps even for a direct tackling of Isis, which is

:02:25. > :02:27.actually not UK or US policy at the moment. What Tim Collins is saying

:02:28. > :02:32.is that Britain has a very long, historic relationship with Iraq, and

:02:33. > :02:36.with the Kurds in particular, since we went to war to protect them in

:02:37. > :02:39.the Gulf in 1990, and that we should do much more than we do at the

:02:40. > :02:43.moment. He says the age drops are like a pebble in the ocean, and that

:02:44. > :02:49.we need to get stuck in and start fighting on behalf of the Kurds, to

:02:50. > :02:56.push back the Islamic State, and to protect the region. Randiv, he is

:02:57. > :03:00.also saying in this interview about the danger of historic civilisations

:03:01. > :03:03.being wiped out. We have heard a lot of apocalyptic language over the

:03:04. > :03:08.past few days, yet there is also a poll being quoted by the Telegraph

:03:09. > :03:11.tonight, which says that whilst most people are in favour of more aid and

:03:12. > :03:14.the rest of it, they are dead set against any idea of troops on the

:03:15. > :03:18.ground. It is a big dilemma for the politicians. When it comes to

:03:19. > :03:22.ancient civilisations being wiped out, I think it is a good headline,

:03:23. > :03:25.but unfortunately we have lost plenty of those. You can see the

:03:26. > :03:29.wreckage in Syria, you can see what happened in Lebanon on 30 or 40

:03:30. > :03:35.years ago. These things do disappear under the waves of war. I think the

:03:36. > :03:40.late motif of this kind of conflict probably goes back to that Gulf War

:03:41. > :03:43.crisis, where we set up a safe zone for the Kurds to operate, which

:03:44. > :03:48.allowed them about 25 years of democracy. I think that is the fear,

:03:49. > :03:52.perhaps, of this mission, creeping into a situation where we patrol the

:03:53. > :03:57.skies of Iraq in order to insular this kind of humanitarian corridor

:03:58. > :04:02.for the Kurds to operate and protect them from Isis. `` ensure this kind

:04:03. > :04:06.of humanitarian corridor. That is a political decision. We have not got

:04:07. > :04:09.anywhere near it, but that is what lies behind these Army guys coming

:04:10. > :04:12.out and saying that we cannot begin this process without an end in

:04:13. > :04:16.sight, and I think that end does lead you to this kind of project,

:04:17. > :04:22.which I do not think David Cameron really wants to go to. There are a

:04:23. > :04:26.lot of easy calls in the moment in the political world for a recall of

:04:27. > :04:29.Parliament and for further action, but very live in peoples minds at

:04:30. > :04:33.the moment is the experience last year over Syria, where there was no

:04:34. > :04:36.clear plan, yet there was a recall of Parliament and a botched boat

:04:37. > :04:39.that resulted in a slightly inconclusive set of votes in the

:04:40. > :04:43.Houses of Parliament and Britain ruling out military action there. ``

:04:44. > :04:46.botched vote. I think one of the things that the government is

:04:47. > :04:52.conscious of, and which the military wants to make clear, is that you

:04:53. > :04:57.need some sort of and endgame. So that if we did get further involved

:04:58. > :05:00.in what is going on in Iraq, we would know what I clear objectives

:05:01. > :05:05.were, and how they would end. And I still do not quite see that we have

:05:06. > :05:09.got to that point. Whether it is a sort of permanent patrolling

:05:10. > :05:15.presence, to allow a Kurdish state within a state to continue to

:05:16. > :05:20.existing safely, or whether we look to actually try to maintain control

:05:21. > :05:23.and maybe even decimate the Islamic State itself, which is an altogether

:05:24. > :05:30.bigger undertaking and probably pretty difficult at this stage. I

:05:31. > :05:33.think that is true. I think as we have found out, when it comes to

:05:34. > :05:38.Iraq and Syria, there are things beyond our control. Baghdad, what

:05:39. > :05:44.happens in Damascus, what Turkey decides to do eventually with the

:05:45. > :05:48.Qataris and the Saudis, that is London's problem. It really does not

:05:49. > :05:52.have much of a dog in this fight. The other problem for Britain is

:05:53. > :05:58.that anything that it does do, America can do far better. And

:05:59. > :06:00.bigger. And bigger. So there is no distinctive role. There is no need

:06:01. > :06:03.for Britain to get involved other than a sense of symbolism and

:06:04. > :06:08.history, and a need to show solidarity with the US and the

:06:09. > :06:14.Kurds. And it is a lot of money just for that. Sam, you mentioned the

:06:15. > :06:19.vote on Syria last year, and of course there was much controversy

:06:20. > :06:23.over the role of Ed Miliband. I'm still not `` Downing Street have

:06:24. > :06:25.forgiven him over that. But it seems that conservative researchers have

:06:26. > :06:29.found, according to a story at the bottom of the Daily Telegraph, that

:06:30. > :06:32.Mr Miliband is one of the biggest reasons why swing voters in the

:06:33. > :06:38.Midlands will be reluctant to vote Labour at the next election. What do

:06:39. > :06:43.you make of that? That is an extraordinary curious story. You are

:06:44. > :06:47.quite used to reading poll stories, which are based on research done by

:06:48. > :06:50.poll companies, reputable poll company to publish their

:06:51. > :06:53.methodology, explaining how the vote is broken down in different parts of

:06:54. > :06:57.the country. Robbie speaking, they show that the Labour Party is ahead

:06:58. > :07:02.by something between four and seven points, on polls that are taken

:07:03. > :07:05.nearly every day. `` broadly speaking. On the front page of the

:07:06. > :07:09.Telegraph we have a new phenomenon called conservative research, and

:07:10. > :07:11.hey presto, it comes out with the unbelievable conclusion that David

:07:12. > :07:17.Cameron will win the next election because of Ed Miliband's

:07:18. > :07:21.unpopularity. Now, he is unpopular, but the Tories are still behind. The

:07:22. > :07:25.big question is, why are they doing this? Why are we reading this story?

:07:26. > :07:28.What is happening is that conservatives have long presumed and

:07:29. > :07:33.hoped that the improvements to the economy will bring with it a rising

:07:34. > :07:40.tide of votes. And that is not happening. And so you are seeing

:07:41. > :07:43.doggedly determined poll leads of 47% for the Labour Party, and people

:07:44. > :07:51.in the Tory party are getting unsettled. This is, I suspect, their

:07:52. > :07:55.attempts to calm the nerves. Do you agree with that? Do you think it is

:07:56. > :07:58.about internal reassurance for conservatives, rather than actually

:07:59. > :08:03.aimed at Labour, or indeed the swing voters? I think it is undeniable

:08:04. > :08:08.that the polls do show that Ed Miliband is a weakness for his

:08:09. > :08:16.party, but that is not news, and I think Sam is probably right. You

:08:17. > :08:20.have to wonder, you have cut out the middleman and printed the press

:08:21. > :08:22.release. It appears, if one can use that formulation, because this is

:08:23. > :08:29.what the Conservative research Department would say, surely? OK, we

:08:30. > :08:33.will move on. Enough said, as you might say. We will move on to the

:08:34. > :08:36.Financial Times, and this image, which I noticed the Telegraph have

:08:37. > :08:42.just managed to get onto their front page. It is this image of these

:08:43. > :08:47.tracks with their lights on, so it is a moody, Twilight image, of these

:08:48. > :08:53.innocent looking white trucks on the one hand, but on the other hand, if

:08:54. > :08:58.you are a Ukrainian in Kiev, you might perceive this as a sort of

:08:59. > :09:01.stealth invasion. You do have a split screen feeling of events in

:09:02. > :09:05.Iraq taking place while once again that is in Ukraine are just starting

:09:06. > :09:09.to read up again. There has long been a fear or a suspicion that

:09:10. > :09:13.President Putin would use the next big international events to make his

:09:14. > :09:18.next incursion into Ukraine. He has arranged a humanitarian aid mission,

:09:19. > :09:21.280 trucks, seemingly under the cover of the International Red

:09:22. > :09:24.Cross, though actually as it happens the International Red Cross denied

:09:25. > :09:28.that this was their convoy this morning, in a rather powerful and

:09:29. > :09:31.spectacular tweet. And the Ukrainians are saying they will

:09:32. > :09:37.allow the aid in, providing it is transferred to the Red Cross. Very

:09:38. > :09:40.murky. It does look like a military convoy, with the perfect distance

:09:41. > :09:43.between each track. You wonder whether there are 30 soldiers in

:09:44. > :09:51.each vehicle, standing to attention and waiting to be unloaded somewhere

:09:52. > :09:56.west of the border. Putin is nothing if not a clever politician. This

:09:57. > :10:00.sort of says to the west, these people require humanitarian aid, I

:10:01. > :10:03.am going to deliver it. You cannot say that this is anything but

:10:04. > :10:06.material support for people in need. Of course, the Ukrainians will say,

:10:07. > :10:23.hang on a minute, you created this problem. You gave them the guns and

:10:24. > :10:33.the weapons. the comparison is with Syria. In Russia, it was blamed, and

:10:34. > :10:37.there are two calculations. One is that there are lot of ethnic

:10:38. > :10:43.Russians in that part of the world, and the reception will be purely

:10:44. > :10:49.positive. There is a need that he is answering. The West tried to look at

:10:50. > :10:52.the difficult sanctions, which the European Union needs to get 28

:10:53. > :11:01.countries to agree to. They could not get very far to it. Is a

:11:02. > :11:07.newspaper man, what do you make the decision to go big on this story? On

:11:08. > :11:10.the sanctions question, the Financial Times are nothing if not

:11:11. > :11:23.good at following the money. That is where the Russian question is. It is

:11:24. > :11:27.being watered down. Whilst there are distractions in Iraq, it becomes

:11:28. > :11:35.even harder. Just briefly, let's look at the Independent story on sex

:11:36. > :11:43.crimes. This is quite something. The suggestion that has emerged that

:11:44. > :11:47.Greater Manchester Police face ten different enquiries into and a half

:11:48. > :11:54.years. We have lost the end of this, but the bureau of investigated

:11:55. > :12:00.journalism done a lot of work. It is whether they were right to proceed

:12:01. > :12:09.with surveillance when a vulnerable child was placed in danger. The

:12:10. > :12:19.story is so Peter Fahy. He could be in line to take over at The Met. He

:12:20. > :12:29.is innocent until proven guilty. But there will be a question in anyone's

:12:30. > :12:36.mind. He leads the counterterrorism strategy, and he has been seen as

:12:37. > :12:45.being quite effective. Bell the last word is on surveillance. Police have

:12:46. > :12:49.misused surveillance in recent years. Thank you both for joining

:12:50. > :12:56.us. You're going to carry on looking through these, we will be back with

:12:57. > :13:03.you again at 11:30pm, but for now, that is all for us. At 11 o'clock,

:13:04. > :13:06.we are going to have a report from northern Iraq, where tens of

:13:07. > :13:11.thousands of refugees crossed a mountain range is to flee from

:13:12. > :13:29.Islamic militants. Now it is time for the sport.

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