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:00:00. > :00:00.1 driver. And, all the latest injuries from Rafael Nadal and David

:00:00. > :00:19.Weir. Hello, and welcome to our look ahead

:00:20. > :00:21.to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. Joining me

:00:22. > :00:25.from Glasgow is Richard Walker, editor of the Sunday Herald, and in

:00:26. > :00:32.the studio I am joined by Tourcuil Crichton, Westminster editor of the

:00:33. > :00:35.Daily Record. Tomorrow's front pages, starting with the Daily

:00:36. > :00:38.Telegraph, which says the PM could give grandparents who look after

:00:39. > :00:43.children the same rights to paid leave as parents, if they've become

:00:44. > :00:46.primary carers. The Financial Times gives details of the multi`million

:00:47. > :00:49.pound fine the government's had to pay for the early termination of a

:00:50. > :00:53.contract with an American company providing the electronic border

:00:54. > :01:01.control system. The Guardian leads on the same story, calling it a

:01:02. > :01:04.fiasco. The paper also says female bosses earn more than a third less

:01:05. > :01:07.than their male counterparts. The Daily Mail also goes with border

:01:08. > :01:10.issues. It claims that 20 million people arrive or leave without

:01:11. > :01:20.proper checks. The Times has a different lead. It claims that

:01:21. > :01:24.nearly half of GPs give patient antibiotics to get them out of the

:01:25. > :01:26.surgery door. The Daily Mirror takes a different perspective on Iraq,

:01:27. > :01:30.with one former SAS soldier calling for jihadists to be dealt with in

:01:31. > :01:33.Iraq before they reach Britain. With a month to go until the Scottish

:01:34. > :01:36.Referendum, The Scotsman says Alex Salmond is drumming up Yes votes by

:01:37. > :01:47.echoing a declaration once made by Robert the Bruce. And the Herald

:01:48. > :01:50.pictures the Scottish First Minister taking aim on the bowling green.

:01:51. > :01:56.It's lead story says he's attacking those people who are questioning his

:01:57. > :02:01.currency proposals. We will talk about all the latest twists and

:02:02. > :02:09.turns over the debate in Scotland. First, we will start with the Daily

:02:10. > :02:13.Mirror. SAS must wipe out British jihadists, as they will return to

:02:14. > :02:22.the UK and cause comment. This warning comes from Chris Ryan, a

:02:23. > :02:29.former SAS man. Will it be that easy? It is clearly not going to be

:02:30. > :02:35.that easy. This is a mess largely of our own making. There is no public

:02:36. > :02:39.support for boots on the ground, as it is termed. But there was very

:02:40. > :02:44.little public support last time and look what happened. I think we have

:02:45. > :02:48.to be cynical about our leaders who tell us that they are not going to

:02:49. > :02:53.put troops in, because we have a long history of doing just that.

:02:54. > :02:58.David Cameron, not so long ago, was telling us that the main thrust of

:02:59. > :03:05.our efforts in Iraq would be humanitarian. That is clearly no

:03:06. > :03:07.longer the case. We have already had such Villa so`called mission creep,

:03:08. > :03:14.how much more will we have? I think it would be disastrous to send

:03:15. > :03:18.troops in again. There was no strategy of what we wanted to

:03:19. > :03:24.achieve their last time, and we have no strategy now for what our

:03:25. > :03:29.long`term aims are apart from the admittedly laudable aim of stopping

:03:30. > :03:34.slaughter. The Daily Mirror and its front page with Chris Ryan, he is

:03:35. > :03:39.talking about special forces, SAS. We know, or we understand, that

:03:40. > :03:44.there are British special forces on the ground in Iraq. Some would say

:03:45. > :03:47.that the tragedy of the situation in Iraq is that when we went in under

:03:48. > :03:52.Tony Blair, that wasn't the right time to go in. This is now

:03:53. > :03:59.potentially the right time, there is no public appetite because of the

:04:00. > :04:05.mess that was caused before. The long shadow of 2003 prevent any

:04:06. > :04:15.politician of this generation going out of `` prevents any politician of

:04:16. > :04:19.this generation from going in. They are going out of their way to say

:04:20. > :04:30.they won't. This story brings it home, in a way. No one confirms or

:04:31. > :04:37.denies whether the SAS is involved, but this veteran has called for the

:04:38. > :04:48.SAS to go in to target and kill these 500 or so British recruited

:04:49. > :04:51.jihadists, who are fighting for the Islamic State. I suppose if you kill

:04:52. > :05:00.them there, they can't come and kill you hear when they come back. It is

:05:01. > :05:07.also terrifying in terms of extrajudicial killing, like the

:05:08. > :05:10.Gibraltar killings of the IRA, the government sending assassins

:05:11. > :05:17.overseas to do dirty work, and it really doesn't talk to the decision

:05:18. > :05:22.at all. But it talks to the dilemma, this is a big threat. It

:05:23. > :05:33.won't go away, because of the talk about their religion and their

:05:34. > :05:36.ethnicity, that is why they are being slaughtered. As David Cameron

:05:37. > :05:44.said, it will require a military solution. Military assets, but not

:05:45. > :05:51.necessarily boots on the ground. The Pope seems to think the Iraq mission

:05:52. > :05:54.is a good one for Western countries. Particularly given the persecution

:05:55. > :06:00.that is clearly being meted out to some Christian minorities. It has

:06:01. > :06:07.taken him some time to enter the debate, but yes, he has said that.

:06:08. > :06:12.He has said that all measures need to be taken to stop the slaughter.

:06:13. > :06:20.He stopped short of supporting military action, and he is

:06:21. > :06:25.equivocating a bit on that. Nobody would disagree that everything has

:06:26. > :06:32.to be done to save lives, for humanitarian purposes, but I think

:06:33. > :06:37.there are difficult questions to answer and decisions to be taken.

:06:38. > :06:39.The Pope hasn't yet really come to terms with them, and said what he

:06:40. > :06:43.believes the right course of action will be. I think that is true not

:06:44. > :06:51.just of the Pope but of every Western leader. David Cameron gave a

:06:52. > :06:56.broad hint of having to be involved and engaged, and then he has gone

:06:57. > :07:02.away to Cornwall for a week. And humanitarian mission, not involving

:07:03. > :07:08.troops on the ground. The argument is that he doesn't need to be here.

:07:09. > :07:13.It is not just that, it is protecting these people because

:07:14. > :07:18.their lives are at risk simply because of who they are. A quarter

:07:19. > :07:25.of Iraq's Christians are on the run from ISIS, and that is a generation

:07:26. > :07:29.of people being prosecuted because of their religion, and it requires a

:07:30. > :07:38.bigger response. If you don't respond, you are seen as walking by

:07:39. > :07:45.the other side. I don't think the world can afford to do that. Let's

:07:46. > :07:52.go to the Times. An independent Scotland has no guarantee of a place

:07:53. > :07:57.in Nato. This is the times. `` this is the Times. You might suggest that

:07:58. > :08:03.is the kind of scaremongering that is putting people off. Is there any

:08:04. > :08:10.credence to this story? There may be. It is the head of Nato who has

:08:11. > :08:20.said this. I think he has said that we would need to apply again for it.

:08:21. > :08:24.He doesn't say what country would object, and it is hard to see any

:08:25. > :08:29.reason for a member of Nato to object. At the very question of Nato

:08:30. > :08:33.membership is very divisive within the independence movement itself. It

:08:34. > :08:39.was divisive for the SNP when they agreed to support Nato membership.

:08:40. > :08:43.There are many people who wouldn't shed many tears if we weren't

:08:44. > :08:51.allowed in Nato. That is a good point, isn't it? The SNP changed its

:08:52. > :08:56.policy. It had changed its policy, I think its heart was still anti`

:08:57. > :09:03.Nato, anti` nuclear. That is part of the modern nationalism. Richard said

:09:04. > :09:07.no Nato member would object, why would they? I can see the rest of

:09:08. > :09:17.the UK and the US objecting in Scotland didn't agree to keep the

:09:18. > :09:25.Clyde a nuclear deterrent, on the Clyde. If Scotland goes it alone,

:09:26. > :09:28.and then begins to negotiate its terms of partnership with the rest

:09:29. > :09:31.of the UK, or it terms of partnership with Europe or the rest

:09:32. > :09:36.of the world, that card would be placed against it. You can do

:09:37. > :09:44.whatever you want, when you have the weapons. There are Nato members that

:09:45. > :09:55.are not nuclear powers. There are plenty. Surely, that would be a red

:09:56. > :10:01.line for Alex Salmond, wouldn't it? They wouldn't say, let's keep

:10:02. > :10:10.Trident so we can get into Nato, are they? No, they wouldn't. But any

:10:11. > :10:15.reasons forth staying part of Nato have been entirely cooked up in the

:10:16. > :10:19.last three minutes. It is not, because it has been talked about by

:10:20. > :10:24.defence strategist in the UK government for a long long time.

:10:25. > :10:33.Should tell viewers, Richard, it you used to be his boss. I was,

:10:34. > :10:43.sometimes I wish I still was. The Scotsman. Alex Salmond uses the

:10:44. > :10:53.spirit of Bruce to drum up support. Explain all this for us. Well, for

:10:54. > :10:56.me and many people in favour of independence, it is more about the

:10:57. > :11:02.future than the past. The Robert the Bruce allusions have an audience and

:11:03. > :11:13.resonance for some people, but for me, it is more about the future. I

:11:14. > :11:21.think the aspirations set out seemed to me very strong aspirations and a

:11:22. > :11:31.strong blueprint for the kind of country we want to live in. The

:11:32. > :11:34.Labour Party south of the border has expressed its great concern about

:11:35. > :11:43.the erosion of the NHS and privatisation. Creating a culture of

:11:44. > :11:48.fear in schools, and protecting vulnerable people from things like

:11:49. > :12:02.the bedroom tax that have been imposed on them `` imposed on them

:12:03. > :12:06.in the name of austerity. But, we are not showing two fingers to

:12:07. > :12:12.Westminster, it is not a personal thing, I don't know why some people

:12:13. > :12:17.say they are taking it to heart. We want control of our own money and

:12:18. > :12:21.our own Parliament. OK. The problem with that is that it is the sterling

:12:22. > :12:26.that Alex Salmond wants, so it is not control of your own money. Is

:12:27. > :12:37.this an appeal to the heart invoking Mr Bruce? Is it a start of the push

:12:38. > :12:43.to sentiment Scots, can not lose this historic moment. Yes, we are

:12:44. > :12:48.one month out, 30 days, this is the emotional beginning. If you look at

:12:49. > :12:52.your history, I know history is important, but if you look at

:12:53. > :12:56.history from a nationalistic point of view, this was Scotland's first

:12:57. > :13:04.declaration of nationhood. Alternatively, you can look at it as

:13:05. > :13:08.the struggle of power and control, with the 50 barons deciding they

:13:09. > :13:15.wanted to control Scotland's destiny instead of the King of England. And

:13:16. > :13:21.that continued through the 13th and 14th and 15th centuries. This will

:13:22. > :13:25.be appealing to the emotional side of the debate. We are almost

:13:26. > :13:30.exhausted talking about the pound, defence, currency, borders, it is

:13:31. > :13:35.now about how much he loved Scotland, and that is what is trying

:13:36. > :13:38.to into. I think the aspiration thing about protecting the

:13:39. > :13:45.vulnerable and saving the NHS from privatisation, is a complete canard.

:13:46. > :13:52.He himself described it as a desperate act by a desperate man.

:13:53. > :13:56.The truth is that the NHS is no more under threat today than it was last

:13:57. > :14:02.year. It is completely devolved and run by the Scottish government. The

:14:03. > :14:10.last story. The front page of the Guardian. Female bosses apparently

:14:11. > :14:16.earn 35% less than women. `` mail bosses. It continues to happen in

:14:17. > :14:22.the UK, and there is no justification for it. There is

:14:23. > :14:25.legislation that stops it, so it is unclear why we are not prosecuting

:14:26. > :14:32.companies that pay female bosses less than their male counterparts.

:14:33. > :14:40.How has coming out in favour of independent effect of the

:14:41. > :14:43.circulation of the Sunday Herald? Our figures should be published in

:14:44. > :14:49.the next few weeks. They will be for the first six months of the year,

:14:50. > :14:52.and remember also that we did not declare support for independence

:14:53. > :14:59.until the beginning of May, so although six months only two months

:15:00. > :15:09.are post declaration. A lot of caveats in their. I'm about to the

:15:10. > :15:13.answer to your question... The Sunday Herald got a boost from the

:15:14. > :15:18.independence front cover. It is clear that marking your position

:15:19. > :15:24.when you are a small... Would you like me to answer the question. We

:15:25. > :15:25.expect to see a small rise in circulation. Richard, it is good to

:15:26. > :15:36.see you. Good to have you both. Stay with us. More coming up on the

:15:37. > :15:49.top of the hour. Now it is time for Sportsday.

:15:50. > :15:51.Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm John