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:00:00. > :00:00.rush at the European athletics championships in Swansea, and the

:00:00. > :00:19.European swimming in Berlin. That is all in Sportsday, in 15 minutes,

:00:20. > :00:22.after the papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

:00:23. > :00:25.will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are Neil Midgley, media

:00:26. > :00:27.commentator from Forbes.com and the political commentator and journalist

:00:28. > :00:34.Miranda Green. Tomorrow's front pages, starting with: The Financial

:00:35. > :00:36.Times pictures how rail fares will rise 3.5% from January, in another

:00:37. > :00:39.above`inflation increase. The Telegraph says husbands who bully or

:00:40. > :00:42.intimidate their partners could be jailed under a new offence of

:00:43. > :00:44.domestic abuse. The I quotes research which suggest the majority

:00:45. > :00:48.of English voters want Scotland to remain part of the UK. The Daily

:00:49. > :00:51.Mail claims nurses are being asked to question elderly patients about

:00:52. > :00:53.whether they would agree to a 'do not resuscitate' order. 'Private

:00:54. > :01:03.patient income soars at NHS trusts' is the headline on the front of the

:01:04. > :01:15.Guardian. The Daily Express also leads on house prices. It says the

:01:16. > :01:18.average home has risen 23,000 pounds in a year. The Times leads on

:01:19. > :01:20.allegations in the High Court concerning the mayor of Tower

:01:21. > :01:24.Hamlets in London. And the Scotsman quotes Alex Salmond as saying he

:01:25. > :01:26.would be prepared to give up his political career if that was the

:01:27. > :01:39.price of gaining an independent Scotland. We will talk about that a

:01:40. > :01:45.little bit later on. What we will start with the Daily Mail. Do you

:01:46. > :01:49.want us to let you die? That is the headline. Nurses on home visits told

:01:50. > :01:54.to ask elderly patients if this is what they would want. It is a great

:01:55. > :01:59.Daily Mail splash, do you want us to let you die? Nurses are making home

:02:00. > :02:06.visits to patients, elderly patients, and filling in a form,

:02:07. > :02:10.which is part of a scheme to keep people out of hospital apparently

:02:11. > :02:22.and improve care for the elderly. But as part of this, patients are

:02:23. > :02:27.being asked whether they will sign a DNR. This is one of those issues

:02:28. > :02:33.where if the system works as it should, this is all right. If your

:02:34. > :02:37.heart stops beating, many don't want special measures. Many people who

:02:38. > :02:44.are very old don't want that, they consider that time is up. The

:02:45. > :02:48.question is whether the system always works as it should. What the

:02:49. > :02:52.Daily Mail is pointing out is that some vulnerable elderly people may

:02:53. > :03:00.feel pressured by nurses that they don't know. The burden of this story

:03:01. > :03:05.really is that these forms are being taken out by nurses that they have

:03:06. > :03:08.never met before. It is not a district nurse with whom they have

:03:09. > :03:13.an ongoing relationship. It might be someone they have never met, and

:03:14. > :03:20.might seem like an intrusive and pressurised question, and people may

:03:21. > :03:25.later regret you answers. The Daily Mail is not necessarily saying that

:03:26. > :03:33.it is wrong to ask these questions, but that the wrong people are asking

:03:34. > :03:38.them. The elderly person needs a... I don't know, feels that they can

:03:39. > :03:43.trust. Absolutely, it is not just the person asking the question, but

:03:44. > :03:47.the circumstances. You might ask somebody already in hospital who is

:03:48. > :03:52.going through a difficult illness how they felt about a DNR order on

:03:53. > :03:56.their notes. At this is a home visit to assess before someone has become

:03:57. > :04:00.seriously ill. Their attitude to ageing, what the health problems

:04:01. > :04:05.might be, how he would like to be treated if they become ill. It is

:04:06. > :04:10.supposed to be part of this strategy to keep people out of hospital. But

:04:11. > :04:16.it seems there is an extra question tag onto the questionnaire. Well by

:04:17. > :04:21.the way, you know, do you want us to let you die? And it is being

:04:22. > :04:27.described by health experts in the Daily Mail as callous for the reason

:04:28. > :04:30.that somebody might be feeling vulnerable when visited at home in

:04:31. > :04:36.this way I health professional age are not know or have a relationship

:04:37. > :04:39.with. They might well sign a form to try and be corporative, really, and

:04:40. > :04:46.then very much regret it later. And also, the family may not be present,

:04:47. > :04:50.it may not be the widest possible way to assess whether it is

:04:51. > :04:56.appropriate for somebody to have a DNR order. `` corporative. There has

:04:57. > :05:06.been so much discussion recently about assisted suicide and the Right

:05:07. > :05:10.to Die `` co`operative. They don't in some cases want to needlessly and

:05:11. > :05:15.painfully prolong their lives. There is this whole ethical dilemma about

:05:16. > :05:19.when life should be allowed to end by doctors. It will stay on the

:05:20. > :05:30.front pages as a huge ethical dilemma of our times. It is. Let us

:05:31. > :05:34.go through a dilemma that the Scots will be going through on the 18th of

:05:35. > :05:40.September. The referendum there. Alex Salmond, the First Minister,

:05:41. > :05:45.has said I would quit if it meant a yes vote. He would trade his career

:05:46. > :05:51.and his party to support independence. But that question is

:05:52. > :05:58.not on the ballot. It seems in recent days as if the yes camp is

:05:59. > :06:02.sort of closing in on no. They have had a healthy lead for the last few

:06:03. > :06:11.months, and what all the experts say, the people who watch Scottish

:06:12. > :06:15.politics very closely, is that Alex Salmond and the SNP and those in

:06:16. > :06:23.favour of Scotland separating need a game changer to overtake the No

:06:24. > :06:26.campaign. And this story says that somebody in the independence

:06:27. > :06:29.campaign has tried to publicise a fairly throwaway remark by Alex

:06:30. > :06:34.Salmond earlier this week, because they don't want people to go to the

:06:35. > :06:37.ballot box thinking they are voting on the issue of whether Alex Salmond

:06:38. > :06:42.will be the king of a new independent Scotland. He is talented

:06:43. > :06:46.and charismatic, but also divisive as a politician. Many in Scotland

:06:47. > :06:51.don't like the idea of Alex Salmond being in charge, while they are

:06:52. > :06:57.attracted to his vision. So they are trying to remove the Alex Salmond

:06:58. > :07:02.personal factor from the vote. Will that work? As you say, he has not

:07:03. > :07:09.actually resigned. So we might never know. But apparently, according to

:07:10. > :07:13.this story, he is something of an electoral liability. So maybe the

:07:14. > :07:18.yes campaign are trying to have their cake and eat it too. Have them

:07:19. > :07:23.leading it, but also have in the wings the possibility that he will

:07:24. > :07:32.leave it at some future point. As an addition to this story, we have the

:07:33. > :07:37.front of the... It is actually page four of the I there. They want the

:07:38. > :07:44.government to be tough on Scotland, even if they vote No. That is not

:07:45. > :07:47.what Westminster is moving towards, it seems to want to give Scotland

:07:48. > :07:54.everything, to try and keep them in the union. Yes, but the English

:07:55. > :07:58.generally take a different view. They want the Scots to stay with

:07:59. > :08:02.them, so they are not in favour of Scottish independent, by quite a big

:08:03. > :08:07.margin, I think, which surprises me actually, as I would have thought

:08:08. > :08:15.the English would be quite in favour of getting rid of them. Why? One of

:08:16. > :08:20.the reasons is that the English... In this is a thorny issue, given

:08:21. > :08:24.royal revenues, but public spending per head in Scotland is much higher.

:08:25. > :08:28.One of the things coming out of this poll is that the English want public

:08:29. > :08:33.spending in Scotland authorised I Westminster and paid for in part I

:08:34. > :08:39.the alleged taxpayer, paying for free tuition, and healthcare for the

:08:40. > :08:43.elderly... This is very interesting, because I suspect, I have covered

:08:44. > :08:49.last month, it was fantastic. What I last month, it was fantastic. What I

:08:50. > :08:54.suspect is that the English are using their hearts and not their

:08:55. > :08:57.heads, in their response to these kinds of questionnaires, as to

:08:58. > :09:01.whether or not Scotland should separate, so the idea of the union

:09:02. > :09:05.disappearing, the idea that Scotland is no longer part of what we want,

:09:06. > :09:11.and what we like, it is not about economics. And it is the heart

:09:12. > :09:16.ruling the head, that Alex Salmond hopes to tap into as far as Scottish

:09:17. > :09:20.voters are concerned. It is an interesting question as to whether

:09:21. > :09:23.that is going on. I agree that the slogan Better Together probably

:09:24. > :09:27.makes a lot of sense to the English. The polling data from the papers

:09:28. > :09:32.tomorrow morning would suggest that is absolutely the case. But there is

:09:33. > :09:39.really bad news for both the yes and no camps in this story. Because,

:09:40. > :09:43.unfortunately for Alex Salmond, it shows that people in England would

:09:44. > :09:51.not be keen at all on his plan to keep some sort of currency union.

:09:52. > :09:55.The Sterling, absolutely. The English would like the government to

:09:56. > :10:01.reject that. That is bad for Alex Salmond. On the other hand, this

:10:02. > :10:05.poll is bad for the prounion No campaign, because it shows the

:10:06. > :10:15.English would like Scotland, public spending to be cut in the event of a

:10:16. > :10:18.no. And also, as explained, they would like Scottish MPs to be

:10:19. > :10:26.deprived of the right to vote on English matters at Westminster. This

:10:27. > :10:31.is a kind of constant running issue since devolution in 1999. This is

:10:32. > :10:34.contrary to the policies coming out of the No campaign. It will be

:10:35. > :10:41.interesting to see whether negative reaction to the setback for the yes

:10:42. > :10:45.side or the no side stronger in Scotland. We are into the last month

:10:46. > :10:49.of the campaign. If the polls start moving in one direction or the

:10:50. > :10:55.other, there will be a lot of people getting very jumpy about this. It

:10:56. > :11:02.goes back to the fundamental thing about this referendum, which is that

:11:03. > :11:05.only the Scots get a vote. It is presented as a referendum on

:11:06. > :11:09.Scottish independence. It is also a referendum about the breakup of the

:11:10. > :11:12.United Kingdom, which is as much an issue for the English and the Welsh

:11:13. > :11:18.and the northern Irish, as it is for the Scots in many. So it is hardly

:11:19. > :11:22.surprising that the English, denied a vote, when you ask them in the

:11:23. > :11:25.opinion polls what they think the consequences of the Scottish vote

:11:26. > :11:32.should be, they are not particularly charitable. It could also have a big

:11:33. > :11:39.effect on the BBC as well. We face a big funding cut of Scotland votes

:11:40. > :11:45.yes. Neil, with your media analyst hat on, what are they talking about?

:11:46. > :11:55.Roughly speaking, 10% of the licence fee comes from Scotland, so ex

:11:56. > :12:00.hypothesi, if you take Scotland away, the BBC gets less money. I

:12:01. > :12:05.think it is overdramatised, not least because if the BBC becomes the

:12:06. > :12:09.English broadcasting Corporation, effectively, then they won't have to

:12:10. > :12:14.spend money in Scotland either. They won't have revenue, but they also

:12:15. > :12:20.won't have expenditure. Some say that is what it already is,

:12:21. > :12:25.actually. The BBC, whether a figleaf or not, has put a lot of effort in

:12:26. > :12:29.all the nations. Question Time has gone to Glasgow, the weakest Link

:12:30. > :12:33.went to Scotland for production. They are trying to get more network

:12:34. > :12:38.programmes in the nations. That would not be the case. The person to

:12:39. > :12:42.talk to about a casting is Alex Salmond. He wants to persuade the

:12:43. > :12:46.Scottish people they can have all the BBC stuff they have at the

:12:47. > :12:50.moment, and a separate Scottish broadcasting company which would

:12:51. > :12:54.make its own programmes. Now you can't have both of those for the

:12:55. > :13:00.same money. You just can't, it doesn't add up. You either have to

:13:01. > :13:02.have less BBC, so you have to have a Scottish broadcasting company which

:13:03. > :13:08.would buy some BBC programmes but not others, so you might get

:13:09. > :13:17.EastEnders but not Strict league. Or you say we will take the BBC in its

:13:18. > :13:22.entirety `` Strictly. Or you say we will pay a license fee in Scotland,

:13:23. > :13:26.and an additional fee for a Scottish broadcaster, which would be

:13:27. > :13:30.unpopular. One suspects for Scottish voters this is more of an issue for

:13:31. > :13:36.the BBC. It is not really at the top of Scottish voters' minds, as they

:13:37. > :13:39.decide what to do on independence. I think that is not quite right

:13:40. > :13:46.actually. One of the things the pro` independence campaign has tried to

:13:47. > :13:50.do... They have tried to promise as much stability and continuity as

:13:51. > :13:53.possible. There has been a lot of don't frighten the horses about the

:13:54. > :13:58.pro` independence campaign. They have tried to say they are not

:13:59. > :14:02.abolishing the Queen, they will keep her as head of state. All this stuff

:14:03. > :14:03.about the Sterling, it will still be used as the currency, and even in

:14:04. > :14:08.that large document he produced at that large document he produced at

:14:09. > :14:14.the beginning of the summer, they have tried to say the cultural UK

:14:15. > :14:17.riches including the BBC, will remain there as. That may not be the

:14:18. > :14:35.case. That may affect people's vote. Britain will send jets to join the

:14:36. > :14:37.hunt for kidnapped girls. 200 girls are still missing after being

:14:38. > :14:46.kidnapped by the Islamist group Boko Haram. This story was absolutely

:14:47. > :14:50.huge when it happened. Over 200 schoolgirls taken in north`eastern

:14:51. > :14:55.Nigeria. The whole world was horrified. In fact, it was

:14:56. > :15:00.impossible at the time to find them, do anything about it. The

:15:01. > :15:07.government was heavily criticised for a flat`footed response. There

:15:08. > :15:11.were calls for international intervention and it did not happen.

:15:12. > :15:15.The UK is involved in surveillance and intelligence gathering. It is

:15:16. > :15:25.going to step up its role in trying to work out a pattern of Boko Haram

:15:26. > :15:32.movements in Nigeria. There is no suggestion the UK is going to swoop

:15:33. > :15:34.in and rescue the girls. The UK is becoming very involved in

:15:35. > :15:40.surveillance and intelligence gathering. That is also one of the

:15:41. > :15:47.key roles for the Brits in Iraq against the Islamic State. There is

:15:48. > :15:57.very little understanding of the shape of ISIS. That is also the case

:15:58. > :16:01.with Boko Haram. This is two areas of the world where the UK is

:16:02. > :16:07.starting to think of how it can help, even if it is not going to

:16:08. > :16:13.have military intervention. That is the key. Very briefly. David Cameron

:16:14. > :16:17.has been talking about using UK military assets and prowess, but not

:16:18. > :16:25.Brits on the ground. This musty one of the obvious ways he is referring

:16:26. > :16:30.to. `` this must be. These girls need to be rescued. If we have got

:16:31. > :16:36.jets, we should send jets. There is a wider question of when British

:16:37. > :16:44.foreign policy keeps being interventionist, when does it end?

:16:45. > :16:50.Look at what is happening in Iraq. But look at Kosovo, look at Sierra

:16:51. > :16:54.Leone. There are success stories. We could talk about this for a lot

:16:55. > :16:59.more. But we cannot, unfortunately. It has been good to have you with

:17:00. > :17:11.us. Now it is time for Sportsday.

:17:12. > :17:16.Hello and welcome to Sportsday. 10`man Arsenal are held to a

:17:17. > :17:20.goalless draw in their Champions League qualifier in Besiktas.

:17:21. > :17:21.Manchester United reach an