23/08/2014

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:00:00. > :00:00.A British national living in Sierra Leone tests positive for Ebola.

:00:00. > :00:17.It's the first person from the UK known to have contracted the virus.

:00:18. > :00:19.Welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

:00:20. > :00:23.With me are Matthew Syed, a columnist for The Times

:00:24. > :00:28.and broadcaster and campaigner David Akinsanya.

:00:29. > :00:35.The Observer says diplomats in Washington are considering

:00:36. > :00:41.sanctioning air strikes in Syria ` targeting Islamic State militants.

:00:42. > :00:44.The Mail on Sunday says the decision to fly home the British

:00:45. > :00:47.charity worker, found to have caught Ebola, was

:00:48. > :00:54.The Sunday Telegraph says data shows the number of immigrants who vanish

:00:55. > :00:59.after being found with false passports is increasing

:01:00. > :01:02.and that this doesn't bode well for any attempts to catch jihadist

:01:03. > :01:22.The Sunday Telegraph is where we start. That story about border

:01:23. > :01:28.controls in chaos. What do they purport to be revealing here? The

:01:29. > :01:33.context is revealing. MI5 said that if a lot of the jihadi 's who have

:01:34. > :01:39.gone to Syria comeback en masse, and there are 250 of them, they will not

:01:40. > :01:46.be able to cope. What the Telegraph reporting is essentially the story

:01:47. > :01:50.about our porous borders. 3527 immigrants and squandered after

:01:51. > :01:59.failing border checks last year and only 846 were found. This is a

:02:00. > :02:05.worrying statistic. 76%, 2700, remain at large. The potential of

:02:06. > :02:07.brutalised young fanatics coming back from an area where they have

:02:08. > :02:13.been desensitised to violence and probably motivated to carry out

:02:14. > :02:18.atrocities, this is worrying. David, is it true that they seem to know

:02:19. > :02:23.where the weak areas are? They talk about seaports handling coachloads

:02:24. > :02:27.of visitors and also Eurostar. It is worrying that it is obvious where

:02:28. > :02:31.the easy route. They use this term porous borders and you think, we are

:02:32. > :02:39.an island and if we can't staff those borders then honestly I think

:02:40. > :02:43.the general public just believe that `` they can't believe how we deal

:02:44. > :02:49.with border control in America. When you go to America, you have to say

:02:50. > :02:52.who you are. It is not clear how the system works because it sounds like

:02:53. > :02:57.they are quite good at spotting illegal immigrants but then somehow,

:02:58. > :03:02.they disappear. It is as if you are told we know you are illegal, and

:03:03. > :03:07.along the road to where they are being held, they can run off. That

:03:08. > :03:12.is exactly right. It is also mentioning that there is a good new

:03:13. > :03:16.story on the statistics towards the end of the story. It says the total

:03:17. > :03:26.number of immigrants who absconded after being stopped has fallen from

:03:27. > :03:30.9262 in 2010 to 3527 last year. So the numbers have gone down. But the

:03:31. > :03:36.proportion of people who are subsequently recovered has gone

:03:37. > :03:40.down, too. It is that phrase subsequently recovered which need

:03:41. > :03:47.more analysis. But we are seeing that Keith Vaz chairing the Home

:03:48. > :03:51.Office `` the Commons home affairs committee says he will seek and not

:03:52. > :03:56.explanation from the Home Secretary. So possibly we will hear talk in the

:03:57. > :04:00.house about more resources. Let's stay with the Daily Telegraph

:04:01. > :04:04.because there is a small article about British Christians forced to

:04:05. > :04:07.hide their belief. This is taken from an interview given by the

:04:08. > :04:13.former Attorney General Dominic Grieve. He is saying that there is

:04:14. > :04:16.an aggressive form of secularism is taking place in the country. There

:04:17. > :04:20.have been loads of things that have happened, people who are supposed to

:04:21. > :04:26.be registrars who are refusing to take part in gay weddings, people

:04:27. > :04:30.with guesthouses and British Airways as well, where... I mean, me

:04:31. > :04:35.personally, I don't agree with religion being involved in

:04:36. > :04:38.everything we do. It is an important part of my beginning, I went to

:04:39. > :04:43.Sunday school and to church, but when you're talking about people's

:04:44. > :04:50.human rights, I can see how the Christians feel they're being pushed

:04:51. > :04:53.aside. I think this is ridiculous from a normally quite sensible

:04:54. > :04:57.politician in Dominic Grieve. He is saying an aggressive form of

:04:58. > :05:01.secularism, but we have freedom of speech, freedom of expression, and

:05:02. > :05:04.he is comparing what he says is the intimidation of Christians with what

:05:05. > :05:10.is happening to Christians in the Middle East where they are being

:05:11. > :05:14.beheaded and murdered en masse. That is a frankly absurd comparison. We

:05:15. > :05:20.have bishops in the House of Lords, an established church, and we are a

:05:21. > :05:23.tolerant country. If secularists want to critique Christianity, they

:05:24. > :05:35.are entitled. Christians can hit back and critique a fearsome. ``

:05:36. > :05:40.atheism. It is in a man sticking his neck out. We know from the Tony

:05:41. > :05:45.Blair and Alistair Campbell era, we don't do God, politicians stay away

:05:46. > :05:50.from this topic. He is saying politicians should not be afraid of

:05:51. > :05:58.doing God. But there will be people who agree or disagree. There is no

:05:59. > :06:04.legal prohibition on politicians saying they are Christian or Jewish

:06:05. > :06:08.or whatever. The reason Blair did not do it is because he thought he

:06:09. > :06:13.would be intimidated, you thought you would lose votes. It is just

:06:14. > :06:16.pragmatic. In America, they have a different view. Most of the

:06:17. > :06:21.presidential candidate proclaim Christianity. They are affected to

:06:22. > :06:26.be clear. I think it is dangerous where we have a powerful set of

:06:27. > :06:30.values which are by and large tolerant and permit freedom of

:06:31. > :06:35.expression, that must be expression for a jury `` atheist who disagree

:06:36. > :06:39.with Christians. To draw a comparison with what is happening to

:06:40. > :06:44.Christians in the Middle East is ridiculous.

:06:45. > :06:52.Let's turn our attention to the Observer, their main story,

:06:53. > :06:53.to launch air strikes on senior ices territories in Syria. Dominating the

:06:54. > :07:04.news this question about where do we

:07:05. > :07:06.engage in Syria. The White House seems to be saying they may be ready

:07:07. > :07:12.to think about military action there. I think there are big

:07:13. > :07:17.questions as to whether or not to incorporate with President Assad.

:07:18. > :07:25.After what was a stand`off with Isis, there is now serious conflict

:07:26. > :07:30.between the de facto Syrian government and the Islamic fanatics.

:07:31. > :07:35.And I thing it is a really difficult judgement about whether or not one

:07:36. > :07:38.colludes with a dangerous and iniquitous dictator who has been

:07:39. > :07:43.responsible for thousands of deaths in order to get rid even more severe

:07:44. > :07:46.and dangerous enemy on the one hand, or one the other hand, we don't want

:07:47. > :07:50.to have anything to do with either of you but we will go into Syria and

:07:51. > :07:56.bomb Isis from there anyway. The Times had a leader today saying that

:07:57. > :08:00.corporate `` collaboration with President Assad would be terrible.

:08:01. > :08:06.Others have a different view. What changed our foreign policy towards

:08:07. > :08:10.Isis was the effect on public opinion of the beheading. That

:08:11. > :08:15.change the context. And even when you read this, you see that already

:08:16. > :08:19.these people are using vehicles and things that well provided for people

:08:20. > :08:24.who we thought were good. And now, all of a sudden, the roles have

:08:25. > :08:28.changed again. A lot of people were saying at the time of going into

:08:29. > :08:34.Iraq that this would open a can of worms. And it really has. The more

:08:35. > :08:37.you think about this... People say President Obama is being weak, but I

:08:38. > :08:54.think you thinking rather than rushing in rather `` like we did

:08:55. > :08:58.before. I agree. The situation is so complicated in the Middle East.

:08:59. > :09:03.Saudi Arabia, the oil, how it interacts. All of it is so difficult

:09:04. > :09:08.to understand that any political policy will have myriad unintended

:09:09. > :09:13.consequences. I agree that you have to pause but there are consequences

:09:14. > :09:17.of inaction as well. And I think you are absolutely right, understanding

:09:18. > :09:22.the context is important but if you wait to long, that can have very

:09:23. > :09:26.profound effects, too. We will talk more about this through the evening.

:09:27. > :09:30.At the bottom of the Observer, Ed Balls is quoted as saying Scots

:09:31. > :09:35.would have to join the euro. We are ready for a big week in Scotland and

:09:36. > :09:38.the suggestion by the Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls that joining the

:09:39. > :09:43.euro would be the least bad option for its economy if adverts for

:09:44. > :09:49.independence. Seconding the idea that sterling is out of bounds.

:09:50. > :09:54.Again, it is one of those arguments that you can see politicians

:09:55. > :09:58.positioning themselves. I don't know whether it will be OK for them to

:09:59. > :10:02.keep the pound. They say that they are a part of it and they created

:10:03. > :10:07.it. But if they are not going to get the pound, then the euro will be

:10:08. > :10:11.their only other option. What is great about their first debate was

:10:12. > :10:17.when Alistair Darling punctured the cell certainty of Alex Salmond which

:10:18. > :10:23.is considerable. Is there a plan B? Andy Reid struggled to come up with

:10:24. > :10:27.an answer to that. `` and he struggled. I think it is uncertainty

:10:28. > :10:32.that is dominating a lot of the fears about independence and I think

:10:33. > :10:36.that Ed Balls saying that the pound is not an option, it just cost more

:10:37. > :10:42.doubt. I think it is more likely that they will not vote to go

:10:43. > :10:45.independent, I hope so. The final debate tomorrow, so we will keep our

:10:46. > :10:52.eyes on that. The mail have gone very big on the

:10:53. > :10:58.news that the UK has its first Ebola infection. They say a British

:10:59. > :11:03.charity worker, their top story, UK Ebola alert as infected medic to fly

:11:04. > :11:06.home. The Department of Health saying this story is pure

:11:07. > :11:11.speculation and they haven't given much detail about this person. They

:11:12. > :11:18.have not given details, they have said it was a medic. I read in here

:11:19. > :11:22.somewhere that the government, that it has come from the top, and people

:11:23. > :11:27.have agreed that he can come back and there will be no problem to

:11:28. > :11:33.people in society. And that'll be the fear. I am sorry, I care about

:11:34. > :11:36.this man, but I care about the other 392 people in Sierra Leone who have

:11:37. > :11:41.been affected and I care about the fact that how it is funny that the

:11:42. > :11:49.doctors have managed to get two doctors cured with tested drugs by

:11:50. > :11:54.ZMapp, and those drugs have run out now. Aren't you concerned about the

:11:55. > :11:59.other people? Foreign people who get taken back to their own countries

:12:00. > :12:04.stand a better chance because they know poverty and health care in

:12:05. > :12:07.these West African countries is not good. So I hope they will come up

:12:08. > :12:12.with something that is going to work for all those people.

:12:13. > :12:17.Back to the Sunday Telegraph, why I it is a kidney to a stranger. This

:12:18. > :12:23.is a psychologist who decided she would give away one of her kidneys.

:12:24. > :12:29.I love this story. Wonderful. Isn't it great to hear a story of true

:12:30. > :12:36.altruism. She says, she has decided not to have children and she thought

:12:37. > :12:41.if I'm not going to create a live, why not help save one. True altruism

:12:42. > :12:47.and a great counterbalance to all the doom and gloom around us. It

:12:48. > :12:51.beautiful clothes there. We ended on a high point and we will get back to

:12:52. > :12:53.the doom and gloom in an hour, I'm sure! Thank you, Matthew Syed and

:12:54. > :12:57.David Akinsanya.