:00:00. > 3:59:59Rona Fairhead is to be the new chairman will per `` chairperson of
:00:00. > :00:00.the BBC trust. A man will appear before magistrates
:00:00. > :00:00.in London on Monday morning ` charged with assault in connection
:00:07. > :00:23.with an attack on the Respect MP Welcome to our look ahead to what
:00:24. > :00:28.the papers will be bringing tomorrow. The Liberal Democrat
:00:29. > :00:32.commentator Joe Phillips and the political editor of the Sunday
:00:33. > :00:35.people. Good evening, Nigel. Let's have a preview of some of the front
:00:36. > :01:41.pages. So obviously, the missing boy, Ashya
:01:42. > :01:46.King, being found. A bit too late for some of the papers. They
:01:47. > :01:52.concentrate on events in Ukraine and talk about Iraq and Syria as well.
:01:53. > :01:56.Let's start with the Observer. Ashdown slams knee jerk Tory
:01:57. > :02:01.response to jihadi terror threat. Interesting, because we have been
:02:02. > :02:12.told by Downing Street that there is no disagreement. One would imagine
:02:13. > :02:15.so. It does say that Nick Clegg and David Cameron are trying to reach
:02:16. > :02:18.agreement and they are probably trying to hammer out a difficult
:02:19. > :02:23.staff because there is a whole is you about the liberties, about what
:02:24. > :02:28.you can do about passports, whether you can make people stateless by not
:02:29. > :02:33.allowing them back into the country. I have not seen in the actual
:02:34. > :02:39.article that Paddy Ashdown wrote, we have only got the front page. I
:02:40. > :02:46.think the subs will have gone for something to make it slightly more
:02:47. > :02:50.stunning than it really is. But Paddy Ashdown is well respected on
:02:51. > :02:57.foreign affairs more than anything else. He was the high revs and two
:02:58. > :03:09.for Osney and Herzegovina. He has a very good track record in calling it
:03:10. > :03:14.right. As a former special forces man he is not a bleeding heart
:03:15. > :03:19.liberal. What he is saying will resonate. The language and the tone
:03:20. > :03:25.of the language of David Cameron and to Reza May, that we are on severe
:03:26. > :03:28.late `` severe alert, that a terrorist attack is likely, raises a
:03:29. > :03:35.whole load of questions. Most people watching tonight we'll have thought
:03:36. > :03:40.that this is rather frightening and worrying. What it then does is
:03:41. > :03:46.inevitably make people look, perhaps not in the way that the security
:03:47. > :03:50.services would like to look, at our friends and neighbours and fellow
:03:51. > :03:54.passengers. It is the sort of thing that can indirectly and
:03:55. > :03:57.unintentionally, promotes the sort of community tensions which are not
:03:58. > :04:04.going to be very helpful. A climate of fear? Yes. And the one thing that
:04:05. > :04:10.Paddy Ashdown says which is bang on is that Northern Ireland has been
:04:11. > :04:16.under severe threat for the past four years, as it was in Britain for
:04:17. > :04:20.much of the 1980s and 1990s when the IRA were posing the greatest threat.
:04:21. > :04:26.So I think there was a point, which we have talked about before, do you
:04:27. > :04:31.say stuff to put people on alert, or do you frighten the wits out of
:04:32. > :04:39.them? The point is that Paddy Ashdown uses the word knee jerk,
:04:40. > :04:44.critically of David Cameron. And David Cameron said it was important
:04:45. > :04:49.not to have a knee jerk reaction! But it is important that there is. A
:04:50. > :04:54.knee jerk reaction is what is called for. You don't know what you are
:04:55. > :04:59.dealing with. We are doing the best we can over in Iraq. We are trying
:05:00. > :05:02.to the Kurds over there. That in itself causes a problem in the
:05:03. > :05:06.future because they could turn on Baghdad with the new arms that they
:05:07. > :05:13.have got. When it comes to terror alerts, things actually happened. It
:05:14. > :05:17.is not just words. It does not mean that nothing is happening.
:05:18. > :05:21.Headteachers are being briefed, shopping centres are tightening up
:05:22. > :05:26.security. There is a whole lot going on behind the scenes to make us
:05:27. > :05:30.safer. If you have got jihadis coming back and you don't know what
:05:31. > :05:36.they are going to do, I would rather we took precautions in the first
:05:37. > :05:43.place, rather than that something happened. You can understand Paddy
:05:44. > :05:49.Ashdown 's English in the end knee jerk reaction if we were talking
:05:50. > :05:53.about homeland security, `` if we were talking about military action,
:05:54. > :06:00.but not about homeland security. Azerbijan think we are gaining up
:06:01. > :06:06.new! I'm up to it. `` I hope you don't think we are ganging up on the
:06:07. > :06:13.year. Many people will be saying, people who are going off to Iraq and
:06:14. > :06:18.joining Islamic State, they are 18 to 25. What has been happening? All
:06:19. > :06:22.this behind the scenes stuff, where has that been happening to not
:06:23. > :06:30.notice that this group was gaining so much momentum? It seems to me...
:06:31. > :06:34.Letters criticising at the time, rather than what is happening. I am
:06:35. > :06:40.talking about what is happening. We know they present a danger, but not
:06:41. > :06:44.how much of a danger. Islamic State has a probabilistic and objective,
:06:45. > :06:51.to redraw the map of the Middle East. Then they may stay there and
:06:52. > :06:56.the people may not be a threat to us, but we do not know that. ``
:06:57. > :07:02.Islamic State has a political objective. If we go to the Sunday
:07:03. > :07:08.Times, they report that some of the most influential Muslims in the
:07:09. > :07:13.country are criticising and condemning the Islamic State as
:07:14. > :07:17.poisonous. And that is really where the heart of this issue can be
:07:18. > :07:21.tackled, within the Muslim community. Because the question that
:07:22. > :07:26.is not being answered is why our young men and women going out to
:07:27. > :07:30.Iraq and Syria in the first place? Exactly. There was an interview with
:07:31. > :07:34.somebody in Iraq who lost a leg who said that people are having the
:07:35. > :07:42.National Health Service and education to a country that is being
:07:43. > :07:45.blasted apart? The idea that the Muslim community is getting involved
:07:46. > :07:49.is fantastic. The fact that demands are doing their bit by a sea fatwa
:07:50. > :07:55.is against people who want to go out to Iraq and Syria is good. What we
:07:56. > :08:01.need to do is understand why this is happening. But the urgency is to
:08:02. > :08:08.prevent anything else happening like suicide bombers in Britain. But this
:08:09. > :08:13.is far more significant than any invention by `` any intervention by
:08:14. > :08:22.Paddy Ashdown. He won't like that! Tell. This is getting `` that is
:08:23. > :08:25.tough! This is getting the message out to the Muslim community. There
:08:26. > :08:29.are genuine problems getting the message out to groups of people. You
:08:30. > :08:34.don't want to say that that person because they are wearing these
:08:35. > :08:40.clothes or reading the Koran is a terrorist, any more than you
:08:41. > :08:46.would... We all remember what it was like for Irish people in the 1980s
:08:47. > :08:52.and 1990s. We remember what it was like for the Muslim community after
:08:53. > :08:56.911. Exactly. That is the point that Paddy Ashdown was making. The
:08:57. > :09:01.problem, and I think the biggest threat, the biggest challenge to
:09:02. > :09:09.dealing with it is that IS are so media savvy and so social media and
:09:10. > :09:19.the videos etc. They are getting to young people in a way that Imam 's
:09:20. > :09:22.and the families of failing to. Another story emerging on some front
:09:23. > :09:36.pages, including the Sunday Times. The news that the BBC is to get its
:09:37. > :09:41.first female head of the BBC trust. She seems to be perfect in every
:09:42. > :09:49.way. Which is why she got the job. Shall rename? Rhona Fairhead. I have
:09:50. > :09:52.been working on the story myself and there is nothing in the background
:09:53. > :09:58.that would suggest there is any problems or anything like that. All
:09:59. > :10:03.the problems that BBC chairman has been facing over recent years,
:10:04. > :10:10.especially Jimmy Savile, they seem to have gone for an archetypal safe
:10:11. > :10:14.pair of hands. Do you think it is in `` a financial safe pair of hands?
:10:15. > :10:20.She is talking about changes to the licence fee. She searches
:10:21. > :10:24.open`minded and she is willing to look at the licence fee and other
:10:25. > :10:27.forms of governance, which is presumably good news for the
:10:28. > :10:32.government. But we don't know much about other than what is here in the
:10:33. > :10:37.BBC press release. Onto the mail. An uncomfortable read
:10:38. > :10:52.for David Cameron on the front page of the Mail on Sunday. Shock poll,
:10:53. > :10:58.Cameron faces UKIP bloodbath. Nigel Farage's staggering 44 point lead
:10:59. > :11:03.over the Tories. This is staggering. Broadly, Douglas Carswell has a
:11:04. > :11:07.12,000 motor `` majority and according to the polling, he would
:11:08. > :11:11.end up with a 15,000 majority. I think this is probably the most
:11:12. > :11:15.exciting time in British politics since Margaret Thatcher fell. The
:11:16. > :11:19.whole landscape is changing. Everything depends on how well
:11:20. > :11:26.Douglas Carswell does in the by`election in Clacton. If he does
:11:27. > :11:30.really well, other Tories who are not sure about defecting will be
:11:31. > :11:34.encouraged. If he takes Labour voters away, especially, and brings
:11:35. > :11:39.them over to UKIP, you will have Tories with small majorities who may
:11:40. > :11:42.think they should do the same thing. You will suddenly see, as David
:11:43. > :11:49.Cameron approaches his party conference, not that far away, for
:11:50. > :11:55.weeks, he is losing Douglas Carswell, first UKIP MP comes in.
:11:56. > :11:58.Tory defections, it could well be that they might play a part in some
:11:59. > :12:04.kind of coalition government after the general election. With stories
:12:05. > :12:08.like this, people like me said commentators, this is about a
:12:09. > :12:12.by`election, people vote differently in general elections. We can't say
:12:13. > :12:18.that any more, we saw what happened in the European elections. Yes, and
:12:19. > :12:21.what is interesting about this poll is that Tory voters were asked
:12:22. > :12:28.whether they thought Douglas Carswell was a hero or a traitor.
:12:29. > :12:33.49% of them thought he was a hero. I think that is really significant
:12:34. > :12:36.because of all the parties, the Conservatives are the most loyal.
:12:37. > :12:42.They don't like defectors. I think it is fascinating. Just one more
:12:43. > :12:49.story. The Sunday Telegraph, new heart drug will cut deaths by a
:12:50. > :12:55.fifth. Which is fantastic. It is a new drug. It is called Elsie Z 696.
:12:56. > :13:02.It seems to be a genuinely miracle drug. We are talking about heart
:13:03. > :13:06.attack deaths going down by 20%. If we can market this drug as soon as
:13:07. > :13:13.possible and replace the older ones, all we can do is welcome that. The
:13:14. > :13:18.most important thing is that rates of admission to hospital 21% down
:13:19. > :13:24.which has an impact on cost. So even if the drug is more expensive, it
:13:25. > :13:29.save money. Thank you for taking us through the papers. You are coming
:13:30. > :13:36.back at 11:30pm. We will talk more about knee jerk reactions. Till
:13:37. > :13:39.then, thank you. Coming up next on BBC News, it is Reporters.