:00:14. > :00:16.Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.
:00:17. > :00:18.With me are the economist Bronwyn Curtis and writer
:00:19. > :00:26.Many papers lead with the downing of the Russian plane
:00:27. > :00:32.The Daily Star Sunday says spy chiefs here suspect British Jihadis
:00:33. > :00:37.The Sunday Express goes with the same angle, saying that
:00:38. > :00:41.extremists with British accents were overheard celebrating the deaths
:00:42. > :00:48.Aviation experts in the Observer say it will force a fundamental
:00:49. > :00:55.The story also makes the front page of the Sunday
:00:56. > :01:00.Telegraph, but its lead is a plan by the EU to pay African countries
:01:01. > :01:04.The Mail on Sunday claims that James Hewitt, Princess Diana's
:01:05. > :01:07.former lover, has offered some of her private letters for sale.
:01:08. > :01:09.And finally, the Sunday Times reports how some
:01:10. > :01:11.high profile footballers face losing millions of pounds after allegedly
:01:12. > :01:23.You can the front page of the Observer calls for a new Iraq of
:01:24. > :01:28.airport security after the latest terror.
:01:29. > :01:35.The focus is on baggage handlers. That is not a surprise, is it? No,
:01:36. > :01:39.but actually one of the things, when I think about security, every time I
:01:40. > :01:44.go through an airport I go off because I have got a metal hip. When
:01:45. > :01:49.I don't go off I start to worry. That is where I stand. I have taken
:01:50. > :01:53.quite a lot of interest in this, and I wonder, couldn't they take the
:01:54. > :01:58.human element out of it a bit more? Couldn't we not have to have baggage
:01:59. > :02:02.handlers, and it could all be done electronically? I'm sure that is not
:02:03. > :02:08.possible, but one of the things I noted here, apart from different
:02:09. > :02:14.baggage handlers and screening, the security needs to be more
:02:15. > :02:20.unpredictable and thorough, but I wasn't sure how you would do that.
:02:21. > :02:24.More unpredictable, yes. When I was a student I used to load baggage on
:02:25. > :02:28.aeroplanes at Belfast Airport and one of the things you had to do was
:02:29. > :02:33.lie in the bags up and everybody would say that is my bag, and it did
:02:34. > :02:36.not go on the plane unless they did. It was primitive, but you could see
:02:37. > :02:42.people picking up their own back. You can't do that now. No, and one
:02:43. > :02:45.of the problems is it is a week on since this terrible event, and all
:02:46. > :02:49.of the papers had a go at it it in some way or another, but the
:02:50. > :02:52.Observer is essentially saying the focus is on the baggage handlers,
:02:53. > :02:57.rather than it is going through what looks like rather slack security.
:02:58. > :03:00.But we don't really know. The speculation is saying security
:03:01. > :03:05.should be tightening up, and the Observer is saying the investigation
:03:06. > :03:08.is focusing on the baggage handlers, but the real answer is we don't know
:03:09. > :03:18.how this suspected bomb got onto the plane as yet. One paper says jet
:03:19. > :03:22.bombers spoke with dish accents -- British accents. That would be
:03:23. > :03:25.shocking, but not entirely surprising, given what we know about
:03:26. > :03:36.the ability of some of these organisations. That is true, and
:03:37. > :03:39.speaking of these dish accents, it says they picked up this chatter
:03:40. > :03:44.after the event, but what the paper is not saying is that they were
:03:45. > :03:48.overhearing the people behind the bombing itself. It is saying that it
:03:49. > :03:53.would not be a great surprise to us to know that certain sectors in the
:03:54. > :03:56.Middle East would be happy about it, and some of those could well have
:03:57. > :04:01.been British, but it does not necessarily get us closer to who was
:04:02. > :04:04.behind the bombing. Some see this as a double or triple hit because they
:04:05. > :04:07.don't like the Egyptian government, they don't like the Russians either,
:04:08. > :04:12.and in general they don't like foreigners coming into the middle
:04:13. > :04:17.east. That's right. There is a lot of speculation. Because the story is
:04:18. > :04:21.quite old, it is a very sophisticated, Kathleen planned
:04:22. > :04:26.operation. We don't really know that because if the CCTV is not working,
:04:27. > :04:30.baggage handlers could come in and out, it maybe they had a chance to
:04:31. > :04:35.do it. There are expert smugglers around, and so on, so there is a
:04:36. > :04:39.huge amount of speculation, but we still don't know. That was the
:04:40. > :04:44.Independent story. It was 50-50 that no one was watching CCTV. There have
:04:45. > :04:48.been reports of huge lapses of security that could have let in the
:04:49. > :04:53.bomb. There are a raft of questions here, how did they get the bomb in,
:04:54. > :04:58.and how was it detonated? Was it done by a timer, or I ate Asher
:04:59. > :05:05.device, so when it went to a certain height the bomb went off, which is a
:05:06. > :05:09.possibility. Yes, and there is a fear that some of these devices
:05:10. > :05:13.don't contain any metal, and that is a big problem because it could be
:05:14. > :05:16.the sort of device that does not show up on normal detection
:05:17. > :05:21.techniques. The Independent on Sunday is talking about the CCTV
:05:22. > :05:27.station being routinely abandoned at this airport, and if that is true it
:05:28. > :05:30.is very worrying, but it is more speculation about what is going on
:05:31. > :05:35.out there. Also, focusing on the plight of these people who are still
:05:36. > :05:47.stranded out there, terrorist may have to wait up to ten days to
:05:48. > :05:50.leave. Yes, -- tourists. There must be a reason why it is taking so long
:05:51. > :05:59.to get them home that we don't know about. The planes are there, waiting
:06:00. > :06:03.to come back. If they are doing it so carefully, they must be still
:06:04. > :06:06.worried about the situation. I wonder if either of you think this
:06:07. > :06:15.plays into the current political debate about the so-called snooper's
:06:16. > :06:21.Charter. Because if this originally came from GCHQ, about what we know
:06:22. > :06:24.what went on, in the views of some people, I spoke to some outcome
:06:25. > :06:31.Rifkind the other day, some people say that shows just how important
:06:32. > :06:35.GCHQ is to our security. Yes, and it is fortuitous for Theresa May with
:06:36. > :06:43.her timing, in the way that these events that this out, but we don't
:06:44. > :06:47.know the extent of the chatter they are hearing. It seems that it may be
:06:48. > :06:52.leading them to believe they know who is behind the attack, but I'm
:06:53. > :06:57.not sure we are any closer to reaching those who are behind this
:06:58. > :07:03.attack. Moving on to some different stories now. The Sunday Telegraph,
:07:04. > :07:08.there will be all sorts of stuff about our negotiations about the EU.
:07:09. > :07:13.The secret EU deal for migrants. What they are saying is that the EU
:07:14. > :07:19.is planning to pay African countries to take back asylum seekers.
:07:20. > :07:26.Interesting, isn't it? Clearly, the number of people coming is just
:07:27. > :07:30.overwhelming. We all know that, and they have put aside 1.3 billion
:07:31. > :07:37.euros and they are going to pay these countries to take back people,
:07:38. > :07:41.but also open up to some people like students and doctors are more
:07:42. > :07:49.qualified people, giving them visas to come into the EU and perhaps
:07:50. > :07:54.stay. So, visas to start with, but the character that they might stay.
:07:55. > :08:00.Will this work? That is a very good question. Certainly, the countries
:08:01. > :08:04.will take the money, but will they actually get those people to come
:08:05. > :08:09.back and stay? That is a 2 point problem. That's right. Will they
:08:10. > :08:12.come back and stay, but also they have got to agree to go in the first
:08:13. > :08:16.place. I can't see many people who have come on horrendous journeys to
:08:17. > :08:20.get to the Northern Europe, voluntarily getting on a plane back
:08:21. > :08:24.to Africa. The Telegraph is saying it has seen leaked documents of this
:08:25. > :08:28.plan. I don't think anybody is going to fall for an idea that Northern
:08:29. > :08:32.Europe gets to keep the best people in terms of doctors and scientists,
:08:33. > :08:39.and handbag people who could be criminals or potential terrorists.
:08:40. > :08:42.-- hand back. Across Europe and in Britain, there seems to be an
:08:43. > :08:46.outsourcing of our problems. Let's get universities to check on
:08:47. > :08:50.students to make sure they have visas, get landlords to check who
:08:51. > :08:54.they are renting it to, and now the EU is then let's get African
:08:55. > :08:58.countries to take these people back, or give Turkey money to keep Syrian
:08:59. > :09:03.refugees there. The question is, is it going to work? Nobody knows.
:09:04. > :09:07.Fundamentally, you need to resolve the conflicts in these areas which
:09:08. > :09:12.means people are leaving. Until you do that, people want to come to
:09:13. > :09:17.Northern Europe. One of the most interesting stories of the day is
:09:18. > :09:25.lower down on the Telegraph's front page. For a healthy fry up, consider
:09:26. > :09:30.Lars not vegetable oil. This goes against everything we have been told
:09:31. > :09:37.for the last 40 years, doesn't it? This is a really interesting story.
:09:38. > :09:40.I have been frying in coconut oil for some time, that are supposed to
:09:41. > :09:44.be one of the best, but this thing about natural is that, these
:09:45. > :09:52.processed unsaturated fats really don't work, but the other point is
:09:53. > :09:58.that they have high levels of things that can cause cancer or dementia
:09:59. > :10:04.but still the advice from the NHS, and Public Health England, is to use
:10:05. > :10:11.those bad fats, rather than what we now know, or think we know about the
:10:12. > :10:15.good fats. Yes, so not sunflower oil but butter. But has made a big
:10:16. > :10:19.comeback. With all the focus on sugar, butter and lard. He would
:10:20. > :10:24.have thought it? Absolutely, different scientists, different
:10:25. > :10:29.view. A scientist at Oxford is saying that the trouble with this
:10:30. > :10:33.sunflower oil and corn oil is that they are contributing to a drop in
:10:34. > :10:40.vital omega three fatty acids in people's brains. I suppose the
:10:41. > :10:43.general thing is that if you really want to be healthy is have some
:10:44. > :10:48.fruit for breakfast, not a fry up. I don't know how coconut oil tastes,
:10:49. > :10:54.but butter just tastes better. I could never eat margarine, I can't
:10:55. > :10:57.stand the taste of it. I have always used butter and it does taste a lot
:10:58. > :11:04.better when you are using these things. It now gives us all the tick
:11:05. > :11:09.in the box to say good, we are going to use this because it tastes
:11:10. > :11:13.better. I heard you are supposed to put a bit of butter outside and a
:11:14. > :11:17.bit of margarine outside and leave it for a view ours, and all the
:11:18. > :11:26.flies will land on the butter because they won't eat margarine. It
:11:27. > :11:29.is a good experiment to do! Now, Royal story, Major Hewitt
:11:30. > :11:35.selling Diana's letters. I should point out that he did not go ahead
:11:36. > :11:37.with selling the letters. He was approached by an LA -based dealer
:11:38. > :11:46.who specialised in Diana memorabilia. They are talking about
:11:47. > :11:50.some letters from a very early stage in their relationship. He was caught
:11:51. > :11:54.at looking at selling them, but did not go ahead with it. It sounds like
:11:55. > :11:57.the Mail on Sunday have tracked him down to a two-bedroom flat where he
:11:58. > :12:02.lives with his mother outside Exeter, said he is having a problem
:12:03. > :12:06.and does have letters which he once boasted he could get millions for,
:12:07. > :12:09.so it might not be the end of the story just yet. I don't see anyone
:12:10. > :12:15.will be terribly sympathetic with him. No, and apparently the agent of
:12:16. > :12:22.them to William and Harry through their solicitors, and they said go
:12:23. > :12:28.away. I think most people think this is really old. He has got about 60
:12:29. > :12:32.letters altogether, I am told. But nobody is interested, nobody wanted
:12:33. > :12:38.to buy them. One minute left, the back page of the Mail on Sunday has
:12:39. > :12:43.got Stoke one, Chelsea zero. Jose Mourinho really in trouble, isn't
:12:44. > :12:49.he? I think so, that is one of the biggest stories today. That defeat
:12:50. > :12:53.yesterday, there is lots of speculation on social media, it is a
:12:54. > :12:57.huge problem for him. Chelsea have never done so badly. It is one of
:12:58. > :13:03.the big sports stories of the weekend. The big question is, are
:13:04. > :13:06.you prepared to give the manager a chance. Alex Ferguson went through
:13:07. > :13:12.quite a bad period before he became one of the greatest managers in
:13:13. > :13:20.history. Is clearly hugely talented. Yes, he has got the persona that he
:13:21. > :13:24.is invincible. But I think it is more that they start to believe, I
:13:25. > :13:28.always think people who are famous start to believe their own
:13:29. > :13:31.publicity. I am brilliant, I am the only manager who can do it. This
:13:32. > :13:40.story we have heard about the doctor, you clearly fell out with
:13:41. > :13:48.him. Dick time. Dash-macro big time. She had to go. It has gone badly
:13:49. > :13:49.since then. Yes, don't take on the women, that is all I can say. Rate
:13:50. > :13:53.advice. Thanks to my guests Bronwyn Curtis
:13:54. > :13:57.and Vincent Moss. Just a reminder we take a look
:13:58. > :13:59.at tomorrow's front pages every evening at 10:30 and 11:30 here
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