16/11/2015

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:00:00. > :00:10.option to withdraw from the match. And Andy Murray defeats David Ferrer

:00:11. > :00:15.in the tennis. That is coming up. Hello and welcome to

:00:16. > :00:18.our look ahead to what the papers With me are the broadcaster

:00:19. > :00:22.Penny Smith and economics The Telegraph reports that

:00:23. > :00:34.Chancellor George Osborne is to warn about IS cyber attacks

:00:35. > :00:35.against Britain. The suspected mastermind is

:00:36. > :00:38.the front page focus on the Times. It reports that Abdelhamid Abaaoud

:00:39. > :00:40.had boasted of planning attacks under

:00:41. > :00:43.the noses of Belgian authorities. The Mail has a similar report,

:00:44. > :00:46.calling his boasts sick taunts. The Guardian leads with

:00:47. > :00:48.President Hollande's speech to The Financial Times says Monsieur

:00:49. > :00:55.Hollande demanded sweeping new Europe at War - that's

:00:56. > :01:07.the front cover of the i. It reports

:01:08. > :01:09.the public has been warned of The Independent pictures just one

:01:10. > :01:15.of today's tributes to the attack victims

:01:16. > :01:20.and quotes the French revolutionary And the Express focuses on the Prime

:01:21. > :01:27.Minister's revelation that Britain's security services have foiled seven

:01:28. > :01:45.attacks in the past year. The Independent sums up the most

:01:46. > :01:54.significant thing of the day, really. A moment of silence amid all

:01:55. > :01:58.of this political talk of what we do next. The victim is very much the

:01:59. > :02:11.focus. And this was not just in France. It was elsewhere. This is

:02:12. > :02:18.the picture with the headline, "To arms, citizens." There is this new

:02:19. > :02:22.state of emergency being extended for three months and that involves

:02:23. > :02:27.quite draconian levels of what they have the right to be able to do.

:02:28. > :02:31.They can prevent people from gathering, they can have curfew,

:02:32. > :02:36.limit the movement of people, close public spaces. We know that some of

:02:37. > :02:41.those things have been already happening. That is three months

:02:42. > :02:50.right through Christmas and New Year, very big time in the Christian

:02:51. > :02:57.calendar, and it is just a very... It has been said before that this is

:02:58. > :03:03.the fight of our generation, and it will be said again. It is going to

:03:04. > :03:06.be difficult for the president because there is a huge population

:03:07. > :03:13.of Muslims in France and it is going to be that community which will be

:03:14. > :03:22.the most affected. The biggest percentage of Muslim citizens, of

:03:23. > :03:25.course, of any European country. The headline is the first line of the

:03:26. > :03:30.chorus of the French national anthem. And as well as the security

:03:31. > :03:33.measures that many referred to in the state of emergency that

:03:34. > :03:38.Parliament will vote through to allow it to last three months, he

:03:39. > :03:44.also has to navigate the diplomacy here, and he is saying tonight and

:03:45. > :03:53.in the papers tomorrow that the air strikes that we saw in Syria will be

:03:54. > :03:59.escalated. And yet, and yet, America is downplaying that idea. That takes

:04:00. > :04:06.us nicely to the Guardian. Barack Obama and Francois Hollande

:04:07. > :04:12.face-to-face. And the French President of course wants to be seen

:04:13. > :04:18.to act. France struck already on Sunday. Ten fighter jets and 20

:04:19. > :04:26.bombs. Many may say that was to assuage public opinion. And yet

:04:27. > :04:31.Obama is saying in a reference to US failures, many would say, in Iraq,

:04:32. > :04:35.he is saying that such an offensive would be a mistake not because, he

:04:36. > :04:41.says, our military could not march into Mosul or a grade Ramadi, but

:04:42. > :04:46.because we would see a repetition of what we have seen before. This is a

:04:47. > :04:50.complete reversal of the state of affairs we have been used to, with

:04:51. > :04:55.France as the aggressor and America as the appeaser. Terrorism will

:04:56. > :05:04.never destroy the Republic because the Republic will destroy terrorism,

:05:05. > :05:07.he says. And he also says that this is not a war of civilisations

:05:08. > :05:11.because these assassins do not represent any civilisation. But then

:05:12. > :05:15.we have President Obama saying it is very clear that we do not art

:05:16. > :05:20.equating the issue of refugees with terrorism, touching on the fact that

:05:21. > :05:28.we still don't know about this suspicion that one of those

:05:29. > :05:34.assassins actually came through in Greece, claiming... One amongst

:05:35. > :05:38.millions. One amongst millions but nevertheless claiming to be a Syrian

:05:39. > :05:44.refugee. There has been thought about this before. And yet many

:05:45. > :05:49.people in British politics are saying, yes, we can close down the

:05:50. > :06:00.Schengen Agreement, we can end passport free travel across the EU,

:06:01. > :06:03.and yet... We were talking about 7/7 earlier and the people who brought

:06:04. > :06:07.about were born and brought up in the UK, so it is very difficult. And

:06:08. > :06:12.we are not just talking about people with explosive devices around their

:06:13. > :06:20.waists or AK-47s. We could be facing cyber attacks. This has been the

:06:21. > :06:23.worry for some time. There was the cyber attack on the Pentagon. Is not

:06:24. > :06:27.as though we don't know that these things can be done. But we think

:06:28. > :06:34.North Korea is more guilty of that than anything else. Of course. But

:06:35. > :06:39.what you realise is that our computers operate so much more than

:06:40. > :06:45.just, I don't know, things that we don't consider to be part of our

:06:46. > :06:47.life, as it were. We are talking about power stations, hospitals, all

:06:48. > :06:52.sorts of things that we have not really thought about whether they

:06:53. > :07:00.could be controlled from far of. They could crash planes by getting

:07:01. > :07:07.into computers at air traffic control. All of those things. And

:07:08. > :07:17.that is so scary. There is almost a state where you get so scared that

:07:18. > :07:21.you just say that it is what it is. We had David Cameron giving a speech

:07:22. > :07:25.tonight when he laid into Jeremy Corbyn, of course, the Labour leader

:07:26. > :07:28.questioning any move to shoot to kill. And we have George Osborne

:07:29. > :07:37.giving a speech tomorrow at GCHQ on those ideas that Kenny has just been

:07:38. > :07:42.outlining. -- Penny. The government says they want to introduce up to

:07:43. > :07:47.10,000 new intelligence operatives. That would take a long time to train

:07:48. > :07:52.them, even if you bring them in as IT specialists from the public

:07:53. > :07:58.sector. And we have ?2 billion, apparently, a figure being used

:07:59. > :08:03.tonight, for the SAS. That is out of a total military defence budget of

:08:04. > :08:09.?33 billion. That is a 6% increase in the defence budget. Someone was

:08:10. > :08:15.saying tonight why they did not do this before. If they have this

:08:16. > :08:18.money, why are we doing now? Win the point is that it is not as though we

:08:19. > :08:25.have not known there was this risk before. -- when the point. This is

:08:26. > :08:30.not going to stop now and it is not going to stop any time soon. The

:08:31. > :08:35.Times has more information about those behind the attacks and it all

:08:36. > :08:42.starts to sound familiar. Where they are from, disgruntled people... With

:08:43. > :08:49.little hope of doing anything with their lives. Quite often they are

:08:50. > :08:55.petty criminals. And young. And then radical imams get them and turn

:08:56. > :08:57.them. There was an interesting article on the BBC about somebody

:08:58. > :09:03.who had been looking at the pieces of information, the propaganda,

:09:04. > :09:06.coming out of ISIS to tempt people to go out there and how it was

:09:07. > :09:11.targeting different people. For example, there were images of people

:09:12. > :09:17.picking fruit in sunshine, for example, in some of them, going to

:09:18. > :09:21.market piled high with and produce, trying to say that this is the

:09:22. > :09:26.promised land and it is wonderful in that it is a land of plenty and

:09:27. > :09:31.really a lovely place to come and live as a proper Muslim. You have

:09:32. > :09:41.that propaganda coming in from one side and then you have those

:09:42. > :09:43.extremist imams as well spouting... And they are using social media for

:09:44. > :09:47.propaganda for radicalisation in many ways, and you would think that

:09:48. > :09:52.intelligence services would have a field day with that. The Times is

:09:53. > :09:58.pointing out that the brains behind Friday's terror attack slipped in

:09:59. > :10:01.and out of Syria and boasted under the nose of the authorities. There

:10:02. > :10:04.will be tension between not wanting to have a blame game and then

:10:05. > :10:08.individual countries at the same time pointing to the other. There

:10:09. > :10:13.are stories circulating that German police, for instance, pulled over a

:10:14. > :10:21.guy who had an address in Paris plunged into a certain as I did but

:10:22. > :10:28.full of assault rifles -- and a car trunk full of assault weapons. And

:10:29. > :10:33.finishing the G20 meeting tonight in Turkey, politicians have been saying

:10:34. > :10:37.that they want to tighten borders and have more intelligence sharing,

:10:38. > :10:42.crackdown on financing of terrorists. Much of the domestic

:10:43. > :10:45.debate in the UK as well as the usual knockabout between the

:10:46. > :10:52.political parties will also focus on the implications for the EU and the

:10:53. > :10:55.Schengen Agreement. It strikes me that this is going to become a very

:10:56. > :11:02.live debate in the UK over the coming weeks and months. And these

:11:03. > :11:13.comments are on the Daily Express. Britain Foyles seven terror

:11:14. > :11:17.attacks. I think -- foils seven terror attacks. I think many people

:11:18. > :11:21.will find comfort in that but they have to get it right every time. And

:11:22. > :11:27.those are the headlines that scare us because we think that they have

:11:28. > :11:31.foiled seven terror attacks and terrorists only have to be

:11:32. > :11:34.successful once. And these are the kind of headlines that will allow

:11:35. > :11:38.the government more latitude as it looks to bring in more draconian

:11:39. > :11:46.measures, which under normal circumstances many people even in

:11:47. > :11:51.the Conservative Party would resist. Jeremy Corbyn is certainly

:11:52. > :11:56.not happy about that. Indeed. Also picking up at interview on the BBC

:11:57. > :12:01.tonight. He has had a backlash over his comments that he does not really

:12:02. > :12:07.see any need for a shoot to kill policy against terrorism. When he

:12:08. > :12:13.was asked about the use of drones to kill so-called Jihadi John in Syria,

:12:14. > :12:17.he said he would only authorise actions that are legal in terms of

:12:18. > :12:21.international law, so he raised questions about that. I don't think

:12:22. > :12:26.a free vote is something that we're going to be offering, he said, when

:12:27. > :12:33.asked if he would allow Labour MPs to vote in favour of RAF air strikes

:12:34. > :12:37.against ISIS. And then when asked when -- whether those air strikes

:12:38. > :12:41.would work, he said they may well make the situation worse. This is

:12:42. > :12:46.not just a one-off interview to the BBC. These comments were two Sky

:12:47. > :12:52.News, ITV News. Jeremy Corbyn is not holding back. This is right across

:12:53. > :12:57.the media, saying what many people in the hearts will have some

:12:58. > :13:05.sympathy with what he is saying, but many people will also find

:13:06. > :13:14.offensive. And many people are still angry about the shooting in London.

:13:15. > :13:18.Finishing with the French newspapers, the permanent state of

:13:19. > :13:24.emergency. Although we know that it has been extended, that is the

:13:25. > :13:32.point. We are now living in a world where we are almost in a permanent

:13:33. > :13:36.state of heightened awareness, I suppose is what we can call it.

:13:37. > :13:41.Don't you think we have been anyway for the last ten years? It is like

:13:42. > :13:45.all of these things. For example, we have this would match tomorrow

:13:46. > :13:49.night. Security is going to be so tight that people will spend hours

:13:50. > :13:55.getting through. Ring of steel at Wembley. But we cannot keep that

:13:56. > :14:01.state of preparedness, that state of emergency, day after day after day.

:14:02. > :14:05.We just cannot. And that is at the big events as well. But what Paris

:14:06. > :14:12.has told us that they will go for the bars, restaurants, shops and

:14:13. > :14:17.streets. Eagles Of Death Metal were not a big band. This was a minor

:14:18. > :14:21.function. That is what makes it so scary in many ways. We have the

:14:22. > :14:26.three prongs of the French response. The extra surveillance,

:14:27. > :14:35.air strikes in Syria, which President Hollande would like to

:14:36. > :14:38.escalate. They may have trouble getting international agreement on

:14:39. > :14:43.that. And then the permanent state of emergency. Le Figaro does point

:14:44. > :14:47.out what Francois Hollande said, that this is going to be a war on

:14:48. > :14:52.many fronts, because that is what we are facing. Justice, military and

:14:53. > :14:57.security. He is not getting full support for it, however. Well... But

:14:58. > :15:05.you are always going to have that. You are always going to worry. That

:15:06. > :15:08.strike was pretty quick. It was Friday night these atrocities

:15:09. > :15:14.happened. Sunday night these 20 bombs were dropped. There will be

:15:15. > :15:19.people who say that is ratcheting it up and it will just escalate the

:15:20. > :15:26.situation. And we have the French presidential election in 2017.

:15:27. > :15:30.Marine Le Pen, even before this, it looked like she could easily prevail

:15:31. > :15:34.in the first round. She will certainly be involved in the second

:15:35. > :15:38.round of any French presidential election. There is a lot of fear in

:15:39. > :15:42.the country that this will only enhance her support going into those

:15:43. > :16:14.elections. Thank you. France say they'll be playing

:16:15. > :16:19.England for the Paris victims.