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:00:00. > :00:00.how England's cricketers beat Pakistan in Dubai. That is coming up

:00:00. > :00:21.in Sportsday in the next 15 minutes, straight after the papers.

:00:22. > :00:23.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

:00:24. > :00:30.With me are Craig Woodhouse, chief political correspondent at

:00:31. > :00:37.the Sun and Rowena Mason, political correspondent at the Guardian.

:00:38. > :00:39.Tomorrow's front pages, starting with the Times, which leads on

:00:40. > :00:41.Labour's split over bombing in Syria.

:00:42. > :00:44.It says Jeremy Corbyn's opposition has plunged him into the biggest

:00:45. > :00:46.The Telegraph also splashes on the turmoil

:00:47. > :00:49.in Labour over whether to back air strikes on Islamic State targets.

:00:50. > :00:52.The Syria vote leads the Guardian too. They say David Cameron is

:00:53. > :00:56."Cameron's ready for war, but is Britain?"

:00:57. > :00:58.is the question posed by the Daily Mirror.

:00:59. > :00:59.The Independent features the kneeling figure

:01:00. > :01:03.of a man condemned to death in Saudi Arabia, one of 50 who will

:01:04. > :01:06."Will Britain protest?" the paper asks.

:01:07. > :01:09.In the Express, there is hope for sufferers of arthritis. An

:01:10. > :01:12.injection to ease their agony could be on the way within five years.

:01:13. > :01:16.As net migration hits a record high, the Daily Mail says it could lead

:01:17. > :01:18.to an out vote in the forthcoming referendum over

:01:19. > :01:23.And the Sun says the increase in new arrivals mean our green and pleasant

:01:24. > :01:35.Let's begin with a couple of the papers which are leading on the same

:01:36. > :01:42.sort of story, and that is the turmoil within Labour over this vote

:01:43. > :01:51.on striking against Syria. The Times has it, Labour at war over vote to

:01:52. > :01:55.bomb ISIS. Frontbench resignations threatened. Labour at war over

:01:56. > :02:02.airstrikes in Syria. We have just heard as we were coming back on air

:02:03. > :02:07.that Jeremy Corbyn has pulled out of visiting Oldham to campaign in the

:02:08. > :02:13.local by-election, this is because of necessary engagements in London

:02:14. > :02:18.so we are all starting to wonder quite what these engagements are. I

:02:19. > :02:22.wonder whether that consists of standing up and sacking all those

:02:23. > :02:27.who opposed him, who say that he is utterly wrong and that they need to

:02:28. > :02:31.keep written say. The strongest player he could make is to say you

:02:32. > :02:35.guys don't agree with me, I'm the leader, few pop. Whether he could

:02:36. > :02:37.fill all those chairs if he purged his Cabinet is another matter

:02:38. > :02:43.because we're not sure how many agree with him or how many agree

:02:44. > :02:46.with the rebel faction led by the Shadow Foreign Secretary and Tom

:02:47. > :02:49.Watson, the deputy party leader. It is an almighty mess that Labour have

:02:50. > :02:53.managed to get themselves into the day when we are talking about

:02:54. > :02:59.potentially going to war in foreign country. It must be an extraordinary

:03:00. > :03:04.time to be reporting on politics for people like you. As Craig says, we

:03:05. > :03:09.are not headlining the airstrikes itself but what is happening in the

:03:10. > :03:14.opposition. It is remarkable, and these two front pages are very

:03:15. > :03:18.similar, The Times in the Independent are very similar, Labour

:03:19. > :03:21.at war over the airstrikes. There is another possible way out for Jeremy

:03:22. > :03:26.Corbyn if he does not sack his Shadow Cabinet. He could just offer

:03:27. > :03:30.them a free vote. That is potentially the best thing for him

:03:31. > :03:35.to do now. Even though he has said he wants a collective position on

:03:36. > :03:39.Syria, he is not going to get it. So that is possibly his best option.

:03:40. > :03:41.The problem with a free vote is a lot of the Shadow Cabinet rebels see

:03:42. > :03:47.it as making the Labour Party look like it can't make its mind up on an

:03:48. > :03:51.issue of war, which is a terrible signal to send to the public. The

:03:52. > :03:55.other thing is if he was going to offer a free vote he could have done

:03:56. > :04:00.so three weeks ago, avoiding all of this mess. He was meant to be

:04:01. > :04:14.believed in by his team, and they believe in him. Yukka of poll

:04:15. > :04:19.suggested that 70% of Labour Party members -- A YouGov poll. The Labour

:04:20. > :04:22.Party should be listening to the membership, which would seem to put

:04:23. > :04:27.them in line with the leader of the party. Yes, except to win the

:04:28. > :04:31.general election you don't just need Labour voters. Let's not forget

:04:32. > :04:35.Labour had a terrible share of the vote in the most recent general

:04:36. > :04:37.election and if the aim of a political party is to end up in

:04:38. > :04:41.government it needs to reach out and if it is not prepared to do that and

:04:42. > :04:49.it might as well go off into the fringes. We are 4.5 years away from

:04:50. > :04:53.that. What? Find me a political strategist who thinks you can

:04:54. > :04:58.rebuild the party's reputation on an issue of War and peace in four

:04:59. > :05:01.years, I don't think it is possible. That is why we are still talking

:05:02. > :05:06.about Tony Blair in Iraq. Labour Party is still tainted by that. But

:05:07. > :05:11.they did go to war. But you can't turn this around in four years,

:05:12. > :05:20.impossible. Cameron is ready for war, is Britain? Commons divided as

:05:21. > :05:24.case for war in Syria is raised. We have seen those conservatives oppose

:05:25. > :05:29.the airstrikes tee years ago now much more inclined to vote for them.

:05:30. > :05:33.We have an action got a vote yet, have we? That is absolutely true.

:05:34. > :05:38.One interesting case is Crispin Blunt, the chairman of the Foreign

:05:39. > :05:41.Affairs Committee. Only a few weeks ago his committee released a very

:05:42. > :05:44.sceptical report questioning the justification for airstrikes and he

:05:45. > :05:49.stood up in the Commons today and said he actually now believes the

:05:50. > :05:52.case has been made by Cameron. So that might have swung a few of the

:05:53. > :05:57.waverers in the Conservative Party behind him, and also a few of the

:05:58. > :06:02.Labour side as well. But when we had the debate at the UN, and that

:06:03. > :06:08.resolution put forward by France, it was to use all means necessary to

:06:09. > :06:12.combat Islamic State. At the moment we are talking about airstrikes, but

:06:13. > :06:15.how much further might some kind of intervention have to go before we

:06:16. > :06:20.get to a diplomatic solution? Cameron was clear in the Commons

:06:21. > :06:24.today, as have been most experts, you are not going to defeat Islamic

:06:25. > :06:28.State purely from the air. It will have to require some ground effort.

:06:29. > :06:33.The West are understandably incredibly nervous about launching a

:06:34. > :06:36.ground operation in Syria. Indeed, David Cameron, as there are no plans

:06:37. > :06:40.for British boots on the ground, nor will there be a plan for British

:06:41. > :06:45.boots on the ground. The issue is, at the moment there are 70,000

:06:46. > :06:49.freedom fighters knocking around in Syria who might do the job for us.

:06:50. > :06:58.Firstly, that is not quite enough, secondly, that -- they are not in

:06:59. > :07:02.the right place, and thirdly, are they going to take our orders? Only

:07:03. > :07:08.by building country by country are we going to get this. Let's move on

:07:09. > :07:11.and talk about the Sun. I told you it might be all right once we got

:07:12. > :07:19.started. Green and pleasant crammed. Immigration figures, net

:07:20. > :07:23.immigration of 336,000 people, but they are coming from within the EU

:07:24. > :07:27.so there is not much you can do about it even if you wanted to. This

:07:28. > :07:31.is the most embarrassing him for David Cameron who promised to get

:07:32. > :07:35.immigration down to the tens of thousands. As someone pointed out,

:07:36. > :07:41.336,000 is lots of tens of thousands. More than half are coming

:07:42. > :07:45.from outside the EU, but it we are meant to be able to control. So it

:07:46. > :07:52.is a real mess, and very embarrassing to David Cameron. And

:07:53. > :07:57.it is hard to see how this comes down. Because everything we have

:07:58. > :07:59.tried so far isn't working. We need to make Britain less popular

:08:00. > :08:05.destination, and that wouldn't be good for any of us, would it? I

:08:06. > :08:08.suppose that is what argument, it is not an argument that is taken by

:08:09. > :08:15.people in the tourist industry, I'm sure. Well, the truth of the matter

:08:16. > :08:19.is most of these people are coming in for work. They are either coming

:08:20. > :08:24.here because they've got jobs, about 64% of them, or they are coming here

:08:25. > :08:27.to find work. It is because our economy is roaring ahead while other

:08:28. > :08:30.economies are not doing very well. So that is the reason they are

:08:31. > :08:35.coming here. The one thing the government will never tell you or

:08:36. > :08:38.don't shout very loudly, but think-tanks do, is that actually

:08:39. > :08:40.part of the reason our GDP is soaring ahead is because we have so

:08:41. > :08:45.many immigrants coming here and working. So there is this kind of

:08:46. > :08:48.bizarre thing that George Osborne might stand up and say our GDP is

:08:49. > :08:53.going to be this much higher in the future. This is part of the reason

:08:54. > :08:57.why. But the Daily Mail looks at the potential backlash, as it sees it.

:08:58. > :09:04.Migration crisis could push the UK out of Europe. A stark warning from

:09:05. > :09:07.the Foreign Secretary. Well, the thing about immigration is that it

:09:08. > :09:11.is tied in so closely the arguments about the European Union now, and

:09:12. > :09:19.there are definite worries in Number 10 and the wider Cabinet that the

:09:20. > :09:26.migrant crisis in Europe, and the sort of breakdown of the sort of

:09:27. > :09:30.freedom of movement throughout the EU is going to have a real effect on

:09:31. > :09:35.the EU referendum when we have it in 2017. When we finally have it. It is

:09:36. > :09:41.up to the politicians to make the argument whichever way, isn't it?

:09:42. > :09:44.Yes, and this is what Hammond was saying in Rome yesterday. What he

:09:45. > :09:47.was trying to say to other European leaders is look, if you don't give

:09:48. > :09:53.us what we want in terms of tightening migrant benefits, then

:09:54. > :09:56.Britain might leave. He wasn't saying because 386,000 people were

:09:57. > :10:01.coming to the UK we might leave, he was using this as a stick to beat

:10:02. > :10:04.Europe because they don't like our idea of blocking European migrants

:10:05. > :10:11.being able to claim benefits for four years. Telegraph, patients

:10:12. > :10:15.unable to claim benefits. What is new about this headline? Not a

:10:16. > :10:23.massive amount, although the problem is getting worse. What is

:10:24. > :10:25.significant is the row over the NHS. So this is a very timely

:10:26. > :10:28.intervention from the National Audit Office who found one in ten people

:10:29. > :10:33.can't get an appointment when they want to. There is a real postcode

:10:34. > :10:36.lottery out there. Everard is finding it inconvenient, and GPs are

:10:37. > :10:41.stretched partly because of the stories we are talking about --

:10:42. > :10:45.everyone. At the government will seize on this and say it is yet more

:10:46. > :10:53.evidence about why we need to build a truly seven-day a week NHS. Is

:10:54. > :10:58.that why? Many are leaving as well. That is part of the problem, and

:10:59. > :11:02.there are huge strains on money in the NHS. George Osborne is trying to

:11:03. > :11:07.head some of that off by promising extra billions for the service over

:11:08. > :11:10.the next four years in his Spending Review. But there are sort of these

:11:11. > :11:16.signs that things are very stretched at the moment. GPs, this is one of

:11:17. > :11:20.them. There is also the risk of an accident and emergency winter crisis

:11:21. > :11:25.which could happen later in the year. On the FT, ?1 billion raid

:11:26. > :11:30.with move to make Whitehall pay market rates. If you are in a fancy

:11:31. > :11:33.building you will have to pay more to use it, even if you are a

:11:34. > :11:38.government department. That is the thrust of it, isn't it it is quite

:11:39. > :11:42.an audacious thing for the Treasury to do, really. It is basically

:11:43. > :11:45.asking its own departments to pay it back for the space that they use,

:11:46. > :11:53.which are government buildings anyway. You have to think that they

:11:54. > :11:57.must be trying to make government departments downsize, make sure they

:11:58. > :12:00.are using the space efficiently, perhaps even move out the outer

:12:01. > :12:05.parts of London. They will all be squashed. It is one of the more

:12:06. > :12:08.bizarre moves in yesterday's Autumn Statement, this creation of a

:12:09. > :12:12.government property unit which is all of a sudden going to be granted

:12:13. > :12:15.control over all of those marvellous ministries in a bid to make the

:12:16. > :12:18.relevant ministers use their space more efficiently. Whether it means

:12:19. > :12:22.renting out office space, I don't want to see all the government

:12:23. > :12:25.departments move out to Croydon or Salford or whatever. I think there

:12:26. > :12:29.is something quite special about them all being concentrated in

:12:30. > :12:37.Whitehall. And easier for you. Go back easier for me, but it adds a

:12:38. > :12:41.special feel to the place. The voice in my ear wonders whether the

:12:42. > :12:47.Treasury will charge itself. It is going to, to the tune of ?30 million

:12:48. > :12:52.a year. There you go, you don't have to read the paper now, do you? How

:12:53. > :13:07.long have we got? About one minute. The Times, ?1 billion Black Friday

:13:08. > :13:10.hinge. -- binge. This is some kind of American invention that wasn't

:13:11. > :13:15.part of British culture of years ago, and now we see people fighting

:13:16. > :13:19.in the streets to get a TV they don't want. Some shops have written

:13:20. > :13:25.back, having been part of it a few years ago, they now say they do not

:13:26. > :13:31.want anything to do with it. I think ASDA brought it over from the UK to

:13:32. > :13:35.America -- from America to the UK, and has cancelled it. Maybe that is

:13:36. > :13:41.a marketing ploy in itself, some shoppers might had there to try and

:13:42. > :13:45.get some peace and quiet. Exercise caution, we are warned, or avoid the

:13:46. > :13:49.shops completely. Wear body armour, if last year is anything to go by. I

:13:50. > :13:55.wouldn't go anywhere near it, a scrum for Christmas Hagens. So if

:13:56. > :14:00.you were hoping for a present from Craig this Christmas you might be

:14:01. > :14:02.out of luck. Even if you are busy on Monday, there is something happening

:14:03. > :14:16.in the Labour Party. You are going nowhere. That is it for the papers

:14:17. > :14:17.this hour. Coming up next, assume in Ollie is in his chair, Sportsday.