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:00:16. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:19. > :00:22.bringing us tomorrow. With me are Sian Griffiths, Education Editor

:00:23. > :00:27.from the Sunday Times and James Millar, Political correspondent from

:00:28. > :00:38.Thank you for joining us. Let's look at the front pages for tomorrow. The

:00:39. > :00:42.Mail on Sunday is leading with the resignation of Grant Shapps and the

:00:43. > :00:47.scandal that is engulfing the Tory party. That story also makes the

:00:48. > :00:52.front of the times. It says the Tory party chairman faces pressure to

:00:53. > :00:56.quit. The Telegraph reports that David Cameron has also been dragged

:00:57. > :01:01.into the crisis of alleged bullying inside the Conservative Party. Grant

:01:02. > :01:07.Shapps and his wife are pictured on the front of the Sunday express but

:01:08. > :01:10.it leads with the story that up to 100 prisoners serving life sentences

:01:11. > :01:14.could be lettered in jail for Christmas. The Observer reports that

:01:15. > :01:19.David Cameron is to risk a Commons vote over Syrian air strikes despite

:01:20. > :01:24.split in the Labour Party. More about that story in the Independent

:01:25. > :01:29.on Sunday. It sends a warning to Jeremy Corbyn from his deputy that

:01:30. > :01:33.he must back down. The Sunday Post has an opinion poll that says that

:01:34. > :01:40.the public cautiously backs bombing raids against Isis yet 74% fear a

:01:41. > :01:45.terrorist attack on the UK within one year. Plenty of choice. A lot

:01:46. > :01:53.concentrating on the vote over Syrian air strikes and Grant Shapps.

:01:54. > :02:01.The Observer has a headline about David Cameron risking a vote. James,

:02:02. > :02:07.is this a big rift in the Labour Party and one that could lead to a

:02:08. > :02:11.split possibly? Yes is the short answer. It's interesting that the

:02:12. > :02:16.Observer is talking about the risk for Cameron to have this vote, we

:02:17. > :02:20.can expected on Wednesday, maybe Thursday. Probably not a big risk

:02:21. > :02:23.because we know that a lot of Labour MPs will vote with the government to

:02:24. > :02:28.launch air strikes on Syria. The question is only how many and

:02:29. > :02:35.harmony that effects, whether it affects Jeremy Corbyn's leadership

:02:36. > :02:39.rather than Cameron 's leadership. Surely the Tory party does not want

:02:40. > :02:43.to risk being voted down again even though the Chancellor says that they

:02:44. > :02:48.don't want to give Isis propaganda of not agreeing on it. I think so.

:02:49. > :02:53.David Cameron must be quite confident I should think that he

:02:54. > :02:57.will get enough MPs to vote for air strikes because it looks now as if

:02:58. > :03:01.it will go ahead on Wednesday. I do not think that he would call the

:03:02. > :03:06.vote unless he was confident that he would get a majority for action. The

:03:07. > :03:11.story in the Sunday Times is interesting it suggests that David

:03:12. > :03:17.Cameron will order our AF air strikes within 36 hours of vote

:03:18. > :03:22.going in favour of action, -- RAF air strikes. And that precision

:03:23. > :03:28.strikes will be used to target the head of the international tax unit,

:03:29. > :03:35.which masterminded the Paris massacre. I think it will be a very

:03:36. > :03:38.interesting week. The vote will probably take place on Wednesday.

:03:39. > :03:42.Jeremy Corbyn is likely, says the Sunday Times, to offer his MPs a

:03:43. > :03:48.free vote after being warned that his Shadow Cabinet is ready to

:03:49. > :03:54.defeat him. If MPs are not allowed to vote as they wish, that is. The

:03:55. > :04:00.last paragraph says that Lord Mandelson has accused Jeremy Corbyn

:04:01. > :04:05.of siding with Isis! Not necessarily as a prize that Lord Mandelson is

:04:06. > :04:12.not impressed by this. The rhetoric is another step up in the rhetoric.

:04:13. > :04:16.Ken Livingstone said some incendiary things last week about the seven

:04:17. > :04:20.salmon bombers and terrorism in the Middle East. Rugby Sevens seven

:04:21. > :04:26.bombers. Now we have Lord Mandelson on the other side. It shows how

:04:27. > :04:34.bitter the battle within Labour is about this -- 7/7 bombers. It shows

:04:35. > :04:39.how compelling the case is against the air strikes and yet Cabinet

:04:40. > :04:43.ministers are having to phone MPs to convince them. The case cannot have

:04:44. > :04:46.been about compelling if they are having to spend the weekend doing

:04:47. > :04:52.that. Nuno Espirito Santo I am sure it is a case of making sure they

:04:53. > :04:57.have enough. Don't you think so? I do, and the motion will limit

:04:58. > :05:06.attacks to Isis targets and will rule out any attempt to commit

:05:07. > :05:11.ground troops to Syria. -- I find it odd, this idea of attacking the

:05:12. > :05:16.masterminds because how can Britain and point the bad guys when the

:05:17. > :05:21.French and the Americans, already active in Syria, apparently cannot.

:05:22. > :05:26.Apparently we have special missiles! It seems strange that we have

:05:27. > :05:30.amazing technology that the French and the Americans do not. I am wary

:05:31. > :05:36.of the idea that the Britons will cut off the head of the snake. The

:05:37. > :05:40.vote, possibly on Wednesday. Will there be enough people voting for

:05:41. > :05:45.it? It sounds like you think they will be. Yes, it doesn't need to

:05:46. > :05:48.many Labour MPs to side with the government for it to come through.

:05:49. > :05:55.Sir Malcolm Rifkind this week said there had to be a healthy majority.

:05:56. > :06:01.It's got to be a big want to look good. What does the public think? It

:06:02. > :06:07.is in the Sunday Post, your paper, James. Just run us through the main

:06:08. > :06:14.figures. Some very interesting stuff here. The main one is that 74% of

:06:15. > :06:20.people fear an attack on UK soil within a year. It almost shows that

:06:21. > :06:28.the terrorists are winning, in a way. The idea is to spread terror

:06:29. > :06:32.and it is working. There are interesting nuggets in the research.

:06:33. > :06:35.We have asked what people think of various leaders and how they are

:06:36. > :06:39.coping with the crisis and the message is clear that people think

:06:40. > :06:45.Jeremy Corbyn is a dead loss as far as this stuff is concerned. Also

:06:46. > :06:49.does everything in Scotland is seen through the prism of the

:06:50. > :06:54.independence referendum -- because everything is seen through that

:06:55. > :06:58.prison, two to one say that they feel safer as part of the UK than

:06:59. > :07:03.they would have been as a separate Scotland. Your comments about Jeremy

:07:04. > :07:07.Corbyn related to people in Scotland? It is a general

:07:08. > :07:11.perception, if you have heard what people are saying on the doorsteps

:07:12. > :07:15.in Oldham, where there will be a by-election this week, if you say

:07:16. > :07:19.the name of Jeremy Corbyn at the doorstep, it isn't going down well,

:07:20. > :07:23.people do not think much of the way that he has handled the Syria

:07:24. > :07:30.crisis. Do you think that is fair, Sian? I think Corbyn is a man of

:07:31. > :07:39.principle. That has always been his position. I think you should allow a

:07:40. > :07:44.free vote. I think that is very important. But for him to change his

:07:45. > :07:49.own personal position would be seen among his only young supporters in

:07:50. > :07:56.particular as hypocritical. He's a party leader now. And all his MPs

:07:57. > :08:00.disagree with him. He's written to the grassroots. Is still time to

:08:01. > :08:12.consult or does the leader need to read on this issue? It could cost

:08:13. > :08:15.him his position. I have written a column saying that if he loses this

:08:16. > :08:21.by-election this week he'll be on a sticky wicket. Will he magnanimously

:08:22. > :08:25.say, have a free vote? If he doesn't, he is in trouble, one way

:08:26. > :08:34.or another, whichever way he tries to whip his MPs. This by-election,

:08:35. > :08:41.the seat has a majority of 15,000, it would huge loss. Certainly a lot

:08:42. > :08:44.of MPs would think about their positions if he remains leader and

:08:45. > :08:49.that is generally what triggers elections, MPs looking out for their

:08:50. > :08:54.own jobs somewhere down the line. And the Sunday Post and its cautious

:08:55. > :09:03.backing for Syrian air raids against IS? That slightly goes against

:09:04. > :09:06.another opinion poll which said that 48% of people think that the UK

:09:07. > :09:11.should join in with the French, Americans, and other allied forces

:09:12. > :09:17.against Isis. I am splitting hairs yet it is by no means decisive. It

:09:18. > :09:23.is not. The public is rightly cautious, when you think about Iraq

:09:24. > :09:26.and the past. The opinion poll is interesting in that the readers is

:09:27. > :09:29.very strongly that they don't want to put troops on the ground in

:09:30. > :09:36.Syria. -- they say this very strongly. Budget the legacy of Iraq,

:09:37. > :09:43.people do not want troops in the Middle East. The other big story of

:09:44. > :09:48.the day. In the Daily Mail. The headline Resigned, exposed, and then

:09:49. > :09:55.doomed? This is all about Grant Shapps, who quit his ministerial

:09:56. > :10:01.post earlier today, they are talking about an alleged new blackmail plot,

:10:02. > :10:05.and then they are talking about whether Lord Feldman, the Tory

:10:06. > :10:10.chairman, will stay in his post, or whether his days are also numbered.

:10:11. > :10:20.We need to be careful of the details yet this suggests a very murky

:10:21. > :10:23.world. It does. I think actually this is a very moving interview

:10:24. > :10:30.given to the Guardian newspaper that the parents of Elliott Johnson. He

:10:31. > :10:32.is the young conservative activist who apparently committed suicide

:10:33. > :10:45.after allegedly being bullied by a senior election aid. Denies that, of

:10:46. > :10:48.course. When I read the interview I felt so sorry for the parents of

:10:49. > :10:54.this 21-year-old who seemed to have been caught up in a culture where

:10:55. > :11:02.bullying, ambition, alleged blackmail... It is a rather horrible

:11:03. > :11:10.set of allegations swirling around the youth wing of the Conservative

:11:11. > :11:14.Party. What I felt was complete sympathy for the parents of this

:11:15. > :11:18.young man. Not only are they faced with having to deal with the death

:11:19. > :11:24.of their son in terrible circumstances, but now with taking

:11:25. > :11:28.on and changing an apparent culture that led to his death. I think that

:11:29. > :11:33.they are being incredibly brave about standing up and saying, look,

:11:34. > :11:41.this is wrong, do something about it. James, this is rather like one

:11:42. > :11:49.of these TV programmes. House Of Cards. Some of the people involved

:11:50. > :11:51.in this scene to watch these programmes and think that they are

:11:52. > :12:00.real and this is the way that you behave in politics. It doesn't have

:12:01. > :12:04.to be. Absolutely not. A couple of things are worth saying. It is a bit

:12:05. > :12:09.like Syria. A lot of political shenanigans around it. A human story

:12:10. > :12:16.about human suffering. Someone has died. It is worth paying tribute to

:12:17. > :12:22.the Mail on Sunday. And the first to slack them off sometimes but they

:12:23. > :12:25.have gone at this week after week and nobody paid attention but the

:12:26. > :12:28.pressure has been building and strangely enough it is the Guardian

:12:29. > :12:32.interview that seems to have broken it down. Yet you have two paid

:12:33. > :12:36.tribute to the Mail on Sunday, Simon Walker in particular who has really

:12:37. > :12:42.been sticking at this, good journalism. Taking nothing away the

:12:43. > :12:44.individual tragedy of this, do people outside the Westminster

:12:45. > :12:50.closet really care about things going on inside a party? I think

:12:51. > :12:55.they possibly do because of the human heart to this story. Any

:12:56. > :13:00.parent can appreciate that their son has died for whatever reason. And if

:13:01. > :13:05.people have mistreated him along the way, any parent can understand that.

:13:06. > :13:07.It is the Tory party, they are in government, so if there are in

:13:08. > :13:15.question is, they need to be answered. The Sunday Telegraph now.

:13:16. > :13:18.The story says that Army medical staff are expected to be drafted

:13:19. > :13:23.into NHS hospitals to cover for striking junior doctors. The first

:13:24. > :13:29.of those planned industrial action stoppages takes place on Tuesday. It

:13:30. > :13:35.is reassuring that, in a way, that there will be doctors there! It

:13:36. > :13:38.shows that the level of crisis, we are used to the idea of the Green

:13:39. > :13:43.goddesses turning up when the firemen go on strike, but Army

:13:44. > :13:50.doctors in hospitals is something quite new, as is a doctors strike!

:13:51. > :13:55.Talks with a have been adjourned until Monday, Sian, it has gone on

:13:56. > :13:58.for a long time. This is the first of three strikes, another one will

:13:59. > :14:04.be on eight December and a third on 16th December. I think it is a mark

:14:05. > :14:09.of how strongly the junior doctors feel that they are prepared to go on

:14:10. > :14:13.strike three times to make their point. They say they are taking

:14:14. > :14:21.action to make the NHS safe in the future. So I think, again, I would

:14:22. > :14:24.love to see a poll on what the public think about this action by

:14:25. > :14:31.junior doctors. Do they support it or not? Do they feel that junior

:14:32. > :14:37.doctors, on whom we do rely for cover, should strike? The government

:14:38. > :14:41.argues that it is part of a seven-day NHS and contracts have to

:14:42. > :14:47.be renegotiated and most of them will be better off.

:14:48. > :14:50.LAUGHTER I'm not convinced. I talked to a lot

:14:51. > :14:53.of medical students and junior doctors in my job and they are

:14:54. > :14:59.working incredibly hard, such long hours. You think life is a junior

:15:00. > :15:05.doctor is rosy, it is not. You've got five years of medical training

:15:06. > :15:13.to do, then a one-year posts, more exams, they have a really tough

:15:14. > :15:20.time. At the end of it, they get well paid. Eventually! We will come

:15:21. > :15:23.back to that one later. That is it to the papers. Thank you, James and

:15:24. > :15:27.Sian. They will be back at 11th Udupi and other stories making the

:15:28. > :15:29.news tomorrow, we will probably come back to that debate about junior

:15:30. > :15:34.doctors. Stay for the news because doctors. Stay for the news because

:15:35. > :15:39.at 11pm as Grant Shapps resigns over claims that he failed to act over

:15:40. > :15:42.claims of bullying of young Tory party volunteers. We will have the

:15:43. > :15:43.latest. Coming up, the film