03/12/2015

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:00:00. > :00:15.Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

:00:16. > :00:20.With me are Deborah Haynes, defence editor for the Times,

:00:21. > :00:23.and Torcuil Crichton, political editor at the Daily Record.

:00:24. > :00:30.The Telegraph says nearly half of all new homes to be built

:00:31. > :00:33.in England over the next five years may be needed to

:00:34. > :00:44.The Metro focuses on a Labour MP who received a death threat for

:00:45. > :00:50.The FT reports on market falls after the latest initiative

:00:51. > :00:57.The Independent welcomes the government's U-turn on court fees.

:00:58. > :01:03.The Express says the level of British aid to India is a scandal.

:01:04. > :01:05.The Times says military officials warned the government

:01:06. > :01:13.not to suggest that 70,000 Syria rebels were ready to take on IS.

:01:14. > :01:17.And the Sun has the same story - it says the MoD has disowned what

:01:18. > :01:24.the paper calls the Prime Minister's "dodgy dossier."

:01:25. > :01:31.That is a flavour of them. Let's have a look at some in detail. Let's

:01:32. > :01:36.start with the Independent. Take us to the photograph that is

:01:37. > :01:41.immediately captivating on the front, with reference to what is now

:01:42. > :01:45.an FBI investigation. We've got the sort of stark image of the FBI

:01:46. > :01:50.jacket on one of the investigators, as we've learnt it is now a

:01:51. > :01:55.counterterrorism investigation, which has been launched into what

:01:56. > :02:00.happened. It is very sort of depressing to see the headline above

:02:01. > :02:09.the picture, about the fact that the US investigates its 355th mass

:02:10. > :02:15.shooting for 2015. It has a little point that it is not a misprint.

:02:16. > :02:19.Striking point. There are more shootings in the US than days in the

:02:20. > :02:22.year. Some days they must have known and then some days they might have

:02:23. > :02:29.two or three. It is absolutely stunning. This one has a twist. It

:02:30. > :02:35.may have a terrorist link that hasn't been quite established yet.

:02:36. > :02:40.The reporting of it so far seems to cast the story in that direction.

:02:41. > :02:45.Moving on in terms of papers, taking us on to the Times, which reiterates

:02:46. > :02:49.that more strongly in the headline. It names the husband and wife team

:02:50. > :03:00.who killed 14 and perhaps more in California, said Farouk and caching

:03:01. > :03:05.Malik, both from Pakistan, he was from the US, she only married him

:03:06. > :03:14.recently, they have a six-month-old child who will be sent to their

:03:15. > :03:16.in-laws, the parents earlier that day -- Sayed Malik -- Malik. They

:03:17. > :03:21.seemed normal but I suppose if they were plotting something like this

:03:22. > :03:25.you would not tell your neighbours about it. In the Garard they found

:03:26. > :03:32.pipe bombs, guns, enough ammo to start a small war and they suspect

:03:33. > :03:40.it might have been an ISIS terror plot or a radicalised individual or

:03:41. > :03:44.couple on American soil -- garage.. Let's stay with the Times because

:03:45. > :03:52.the main story is army chiefs want the 70,000 rebels claim -- warn of

:03:53. > :03:58.the. You had better have the first pop at this one. This story is

:03:59. > :04:04.about, when David Cameron made his case for expanding airstrikes into

:04:05. > :04:08.Syria from Iraq last week, it was, he was kind of responding to a

:04:09. > :04:10.Foreign Affairs Committee report, which questioned whether we should

:04:11. > :04:15.be doing that, and actually cautioned against it. He used this

:04:16. > :04:22.figure of 70,000 moderate Syrian rebels who would be ready to take on

:04:23. > :04:26.IS with the support of British and other Allied air power. That

:04:27. > :04:30.immediately raised eyebrows and the usual critics came out and were

:04:31. > :04:34.sceptical about the figure. It kind of became more about the figure than

:04:35. > :04:39.the substance of what was being discussed, which was, like, you

:04:40. > :04:43.know, this kind of multifaceted strategy to take on Islamic State.

:04:44. > :04:49.And I've been told that officials within the MOD were mindful of what

:04:50. > :04:56.happened back in 2003, when Tony Blair went to parliament to make a

:04:57. > :05:01.case for the Iraq war. And he used what then became the dodgy dossier

:05:02. > :05:06.with the 45 minute claim about Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass

:05:07. > :05:10.destruction. People were worried. They were not doubting the figure.

:05:11. > :05:19.They believe there are 70,000, probably more, rebels out there.

:05:20. > :05:21.Frankly, they are fighting Assad as opposed to ISIS. They were worried

:05:22. > :05:28.about is becoming that 45 minute moment. Lots of people doubt that

:05:29. > :05:31.figure, actually. Lots of MPs in the debate yesterday. When the Prime

:05:32. > :05:36.Minister introduced the figure last Thursday when he came back to

:05:37. > :05:39.answer, you could feel the air being sucked out of the place. They might

:05:40. > :05:51.have said 70000 and, people said, what, where, who cracks Mac I

:05:52. > :05:58.disagree. -- who? That's different to say that there are 70,000 rebels.

:05:59. > :06:01.They are disparate groups. They are geographically spread around the

:06:02. > :06:04.country. That was the other worry, that you could get, from what was

:06:05. > :06:08.being said, you could have an idea that maybe there is this sort of

:06:09. > :06:13.70,000 strong army ready to march on Raqqa, when that absolutely is not

:06:14. > :06:18.the case. So, it was very much a concern. Obviously, those who put

:06:19. > :06:20.together the document decided the figure, which was apparently

:06:21. > :06:25.independently sourced from the independent committee, was solid and

:06:26. > :06:28.should be included. I know they're distancing themselves from that

:06:29. > :06:34.figure because they don't want to be caught up in the same mire as the 45

:06:35. > :06:40.minute warning but they are now calling them the bogus Battalion. He

:06:41. > :06:45.did. It instantly undermines the credibility of the case for war when

:06:46. > :06:50.he did that -- Bogus Battalion he won the vote. People told him that

:06:51. > :06:56.would be the case. I don't know why he went ahead and said it anyway.

:06:57. > :07:00.Yes. I was told it wasn't a question of arguments over this, it was

:07:01. > :07:04.people voicing concern - is it a good thing to do? Are you making

:07:05. > :07:09.yourself a hostage to fortune, being so specific about a figure? It is

:07:10. > :07:12.different in that sense. It wasn't as if they believed the figure to be

:07:13. > :07:16.false. It was more like the wisdom of making such a big thing about it.

:07:17. > :07:20.The political judgement of it. Exactly. He misjudged it. Let's stay

:07:21. > :07:32.with that. The front of the Telegraph. Jeremy Corbyn, "making

:07:33. > :07:36.MPs terror target" within the party, the Shadow Minister, unnamed. The

:07:37. > :07:41.focus on war with ISIS and airstrikes on Syria yesterday.

:07:42. > :07:46.Today, it you know, Westminster's been caught up in Labour's internal

:07:47. > :07:54.war. And what kind of retribution might come to the 66 Labour MPs who

:07:55. > :07:58.voted with the Government. Far left groups, like Momentum, they say they

:07:59. > :08:02.should be deselected. Jeremy Corbyn himself sent out the signal, the

:08:03. > :08:08.wolfwhistle, I think, when he said there would be, "no hiding place for

:08:09. > :08:11.MPs who went against the membership and the constituency." That has led

:08:12. > :08:17.to warning from a shadow Cabinet member here who said it you are not

:08:18. > :08:21.making us in danger of being deselected but being attacked by

:08:22. > :08:28.home-grown jihadis. We had a case of the MPR couple of years ago who was

:08:29. > :08:33.attacked in his surgery -- MPs a couple of years ago. A Labour MP who

:08:34. > :08:40.voted for the war has been threatened with stabbing and he is

:08:41. > :08:48.going to put police officers outside his constituency office. There is a

:08:49. > :08:53.darker side to this internal war. We have, however, this evening, had an

:08:54. > :08:58.e-mail widely sent from Jeremy Corbyn and to his deputy, saving two

:08:59. > :09:03.Labour Party members, you've got to behave. The bullying and

:09:04. > :09:09.intimidation has no part to play. It is too little, too late. Ever since

:09:10. > :09:13.Jeremy Corbyn was elected as leader it seems as though there has been

:09:14. > :09:17.this, sort of, well, I guess it happens with all parties, but it

:09:18. > :09:23.does feel a little bit dirty. Politics is a roughhouse. It is a

:09:24. > :09:26.Ross Houston. No doubt. There is a massive rift in the Labour Party

:09:27. > :09:32.between the moderates and the Communist if you want to call them

:09:33. > :09:36.that -- rough house. We have in Syria. We will see it tonight. We

:09:37. > :09:43.will see it all the way down line until... And the cartoon. Casting

:09:44. > :09:51.some light relief on a very serious topic. We have a Matt cartoon in the

:09:52. > :09:56.Telegraph, Labour-Syria split, and we will need a bigger bunch of

:09:57. > :09:59.mistletoe this year. You can imagine the Labour Party Christmas... We

:10:00. > :10:04.have had an invite to his Christmas drinks, and I think the message will

:10:05. > :10:08.be peace and goodwill. But of course. The Financial Times is

:10:09. > :10:13.talking about David Cameron's aim to get a deal within the EU prior to

:10:14. > :10:19.that referendum. And it might not be quite as early as we work, perhaps,

:10:20. > :10:23.thinking. No, Downing Street is signalling, admitting, it won't get

:10:24. > :10:30.a deal from the other 27 EU members at this December summit, which David

:10:31. > :10:38.Cameron hoped would bounce them into the promise of reform in December,

:10:39. > :10:44.in time for our British referendum. He has now been told it is not on.

:10:45. > :10:53.One of his main planks is having a band of four years on migrants to

:10:54. > :10:58.the UK claiming benefits. Try that in Bulgaria. Try it with any Eastern

:10:59. > :11:03.European members, it is not a cell. Angela Merkel has told him he

:11:04. > :11:05.European members, it is not a cell. Angela Merkel has told him -- it

:11:06. > :11:09.won't happen. Why should it? The EU has to deal with a massive terrorism

:11:10. > :11:13.threat and refugee influx. Britain is part of the problem but it is not

:11:14. > :11:19.the only problem. He will have to wait until February to get the deal

:11:20. > :11:24.through. According to his own people, the referendum has to be

:11:25. > :11:27.held here by 2017. Exactly. It is no disaster if it is delayed and you

:11:28. > :11:31.can understand that there is a lot going on at the moment in the EU.

:11:32. > :11:37.People's attention will be distracted by... If it is

:11:38. > :11:43.delayed... The lesson from the Scottish referendum was don't go

:11:44. > :11:52.along. The SNP came from 30% up to 45% over the two year period. Out of

:11:53. > :11:56.the starting blocks, the in out campaign... They still lost,

:11:57. > :12:01.ultimately. There are so many other considerations in referendums. While

:12:02. > :12:04.they are about one issue, the popularity of the government of the

:12:05. > :12:12.day at that moment can play a big part. And anything can happen. Take

:12:13. > :12:15.us to the front of the Guardian, because that paper is reflecting on

:12:16. > :12:20.the fact that Oscar Pistorius is now guilty of murder, rather than

:12:21. > :12:25.manslaughter. Absolutely, I mean, their story does continues, doesn't

:12:26. > :12:28.it? I cannot believe it was only 2- three years ago that this actually

:12:29. > :12:38.happened, it feels like this long-running drama -- 2-3. We have

:12:39. > :12:40.the guilty of culpable homicide conviction overturned by the court

:12:41. > :12:46.of appeal, and now he is found guilty of murdering his girlfriend.

:12:47. > :12:50.And, you know, could spend up to 15 years in prison. So, I think, you

:12:51. > :12:56.know, obviously, it is horrendous for the families. But also, very

:12:57. > :13:00.difficult for him, being in this weird limbo, it kind of reminds me

:13:01. > :13:07.of what happened in Italy with the Meredith Kercher incident, the back

:13:08. > :13:11.and forth, when you were expecting, would it be appealed? Although

:13:12. > :13:17.apparently it is unusual for a Supreme Court appeal to be appealed.

:13:18. > :13:23.Apparently so. It is a huge drama that has captured the world, it you

:13:24. > :13:26.know? And the appeal judge, one of the appeal judges, just as Eric

:13:27. > :13:33.Leach, captures the story in a paragraph, he says, "this is a human

:13:34. > :13:39.tragedy to experience abortions, a young man who has physical

:13:40. > :13:42.disabilities, reaches Olympic heights, international celebrity, he

:13:43. > :13:46.meets a young woman of natural beauty and success, they fall in

:13:47. > :13:51.love, romance blossoms and then on Valentine's Day he destroys it all

:13:52. > :13:59.when he takes her life." It is just incredible. It continues. If it were

:14:00. > :14:04.not realise you could imagine this would be a film script, but sadly it

:14:05. > :14:09.is real life and the tragedy is in the midst of it. Absolutely. He was

:14:10. > :14:14.this iconic figure, the poster child of the Olympics. And so, for some of

:14:15. > :14:24.that sort of iconic status, to fall so low that, it is sad. Thank you

:14:25. > :14:29.both very much indeed. A reminder, as well, that you can watch all of

:14:30. > :14:38.the by-election special with Andrew Neil tonight at 12:25am, and I

:14:39. > :14:41.should say the turnout has come in at 40%, that piece of news has just

:14:42. > :14:43.reached us in the last couple of minutes. Now on BBC News, it is time

:14:44. > :14:56.for Sportsday. More problems at Fifa

:14:57. > :14:59.as two officials are arrested in