:00:00. > :00:00.Our level has been really, really high. Good luck for them.
:00:00. > :00:16.Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.
:00:17. > :00:18.With me are the Independent columnist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown
:00:19. > :00:21.and the political commentator Vincent Moss.
:00:22. > :00:26.The Observer welcomes the historic climate change deal in Paris,
:00:27. > :00:28.quoting the words of the French president Francois Hollande
:00:29. > :00:32.who described it as a major leap for mankind.
:00:33. > :00:34.The Independent shows a line of dancing polar bears
:00:35. > :00:39.The paper also claims David Cameron is to make a dramatic climbdown
:00:40. > :00:44.That story also makes the front page of the Telegraph,
:00:45. > :00:47.pointing out the U-turn will be on the Prime Minister's central
:00:48. > :00:53.The Mail carries an exclusive interview with Shaker Aamer,
:00:54. > :00:57.the British man held at Guantanamo Bay for fourteen years.
:00:58. > :01:00.The Express goes it alone saying more than 400 miles of roadworks
:01:01. > :01:05.will be cleared, just in time for the great Christmas getaway.
:01:06. > :01:08.The Sunday Times claims that the man who shouted "You ain't no Muslim,
:01:09. > :01:11.bruv" during an attack at an East London tube station now
:01:12. > :01:19.fears retribution from the group calling itself Islamic State.
:01:20. > :01:28.So, let's begin. There is no doubt that a major leap for mankind, world
:01:29. > :01:33.leaders hail the Paris deal on the climate, it is a big story. Warts
:01:34. > :01:38.and all, nobody thinks it is perfect, but it is a deal? As you
:01:39. > :01:42.would expect the Observer, it is covering it in great detail and
:01:43. > :01:46.trying to suggest that it could be the end of the fossil fuel era and
:01:47. > :01:52.there will be pressure on businesses and firms, taxing people who use
:01:53. > :01:57.fossil fuels, fossil fuel companies. The big question is weather this
:01:58. > :02:02.will happen. There is scepticism, some of which is reflected in the
:02:03. > :02:11.observer. I really, really hope that 50% of what is promised happens.
:02:12. > :02:17.Remember, the green agenda has fallen off the Chancellor's wish
:02:18. > :02:20.list. He has kind of completely cut away from what was being taken
:02:21. > :02:25.seriously before, because the economy was everything, whatever it
:02:26. > :02:30.took to push the economy up to the highest speed. The other thing is
:02:31. > :02:36.that I was in India last weekend, they are very angry with one aspect
:02:37. > :02:41.of what has happened, which is that the richer countries have created
:02:42. > :02:45.the mess and most of the worst disasters happening in the poorest
:02:46. > :02:49.countries, although we are facing them, and they are not getting any
:02:50. > :02:54.concession on that, according to the deal. There are lots of very
:02:55. > :02:58.interesting bits. It may signal the end of the fossil fuel era, when I
:02:59. > :03:02.am talking to climate change scientists they say that this is the
:03:03. > :03:05.end of coal, it might not be in the next ten or 20 years but it is
:03:06. > :03:09.particularly coal, it has huge knock-on effect for Indonesia, where
:03:10. > :03:15.they do lots of coal mining, markets like that, and some people say it
:03:16. > :03:19.would help if governments did not subsidise fossil fuels. Not only
:03:20. > :03:24.should the prices go up because of taxation, as has been suggested, but
:03:25. > :03:28.subsidies still exist. If anything, you would think governments would be
:03:29. > :03:31.looking towards renewables, but our government seems to be moving away
:03:32. > :03:35.from that. When you are looking at people like Oracle barman David
:03:36. > :03:39.Cameron welcoming this agreement, the British Government, at a time
:03:40. > :03:43.where there have been floods in the north of England which many people
:03:44. > :03:48.believe man-made, caused by climate change, there is a rolling back from
:03:49. > :03:50.the things we should be embracing. Some people are sceptical about the
:03:51. > :03:54.governments patting themselves on the back, how long, you are moving
:03:55. > :03:59.away from the things that would mitigate the impact of climate
:04:00. > :04:02.change. Can I throw in a sceptical note, do you think leaders care that
:04:03. > :04:06.much? Some people kept very deeply about green issues, any people are
:04:07. > :04:11.more interested in putting food on the table, getting a job, can my
:04:12. > :04:15.kids go to a good school? But I think everybody is becoming aware of
:04:16. > :04:19.the changing climate. These floods in the last five years in this
:04:20. > :04:22.country, nobody can say it is just a course of nature that happens from
:04:23. > :04:28.time to time. People are becoming more aware, there is something going
:04:29. > :04:34.on. The climate denying lobby is very strong in this country, in
:04:35. > :04:38.America, particularly. I don't think this will go without a fight. I
:04:39. > :04:44.think more and more merry people are beginning to think... When you get a
:04:45. > :04:48.once in 100 year flood, then another within a couple of years. At is
:04:49. > :04:51.making people wake up, people are looking at what is happening
:04:52. > :04:56.literally in their back gardens, this has not happened before,
:04:57. > :05:00.something is going on. When it was Bangladesh it didn't matter, now it
:05:01. > :05:04.is Carlisle. Charming polar bears in the Independent on Sunday, but
:05:05. > :05:09.Cameron's Big E you climb-down is what it says, it has dropped the red
:05:10. > :05:12.line demand to strip EU workers of tax credits so long as there is
:05:13. > :05:18.something better to cut migration. Downing Street say they are battling
:05:19. > :05:22.away. Everybody knew this was bluff and bombast on the part of the Prime
:05:23. > :05:28.Minister, because he needs to be seen to be saying something to those
:05:29. > :05:33.wanting to exit the EU and so on. To change some of the conditions which
:05:34. > :05:38.he seemed to think was easy, everyone knew it would not be
:05:39. > :05:44.possible. But I find it very difficult, I hated the way the media
:05:45. > :05:49.uses this climb-down and U-turn. Intelligent politics should allow
:05:50. > :05:55.politicians to change their minds. And not be cast as cowards all week.
:05:56. > :06:00.This makes for very bad policy, I think, when everybody is scared of
:06:01. > :06:04.what the headline will be next. Climb-down, if he is changing his
:06:05. > :06:08.mind a bit or knows it will not be possible, let's do it intelligently,
:06:09. > :06:13.don't make it into this stupid headline. I say this about my own
:06:14. > :06:17.paper! David Cameron always knew this would not be achievable, but
:06:18. > :06:20.this is the centrepiece of his demand, this four year ban on in
:06:21. > :06:25.work benefits would never happen, he knew that, he conceded earlier in
:06:26. > :06:30.the week in talks with the Polish leaders that it would never happen.
:06:31. > :06:34.Sources very close to the Prime Minister have spoken to almost all
:06:35. > :06:38.the Sunday newspapers and said it would not happen. It is still on the
:06:39. > :06:41.table but it will not happen, yet this was the absolute centrepiece of
:06:42. > :06:46.his reforms, the package of things he would get before the referendum,
:06:47. > :06:50.it will clearly not happen. Rather conveniently on a busy Newsweek when
:06:51. > :06:54.you have climate change talks in the resolution, number ten has snuck out
:06:55. > :07:00.this briefing to say it will not happen. What about all these British
:07:01. > :07:03.people living in Europe, if there was a tit-for-tat, we have huge
:07:04. > :07:08.numbers of people working, living and retired in Europe. This was an
:07:09. > :07:13.ill thought through policy, really. Moving on to the Sunday Telegraph,
:07:14. > :07:19.hammering's climb-down on EU benefits, the same sort of headline,
:07:20. > :07:25.but underneath 100,000 new members to oust Corbyn. Jeremy Corbyn's
:07:26. > :07:27.critics plan to float a Labour with 100,000 new moderate members at a
:07:28. > :07:32.privately admitting they will have to wait until 2017 to oust him as
:07:33. > :07:39.leader. How do you flood the Labour Party with 100,000 members. People
:07:40. > :07:42.either join or they do not. If you do, you are doing something quite
:07:43. > :07:47.dishonest in terms of democratic principles. You can attract new
:07:48. > :07:51.members. How will they test? If I want to become a member, will they
:07:52. > :07:57.say, do you like Jeremy Corbyn or not, will there be a lie detection
:07:58. > :08:02.test? Stupid, isn't it? I think it is a struggle. The sort of members
:08:03. > :08:06.that people who do not like Jeremy Corbyn in the Labour Party are
:08:07. > :08:09.talking about are moderates, as they would describe themselves, they only
:08:10. > :08:12.seem to be heading for the Exeter under Jeremy Corbyn. The only person
:08:13. > :08:17.attracting new people to the party is Jeremy Robert. The nub of the
:08:18. > :08:21.story is saying about people who do not like him in the Parliamentary
:08:22. > :08:25.Labour Party have given up on the idea that they will be able to get
:08:26. > :08:29.rid of Corbyn after the May elections next year, it is too early
:08:30. > :08:33.because his mandate is too big. They will try to add 100,000 new members,
:08:34. > :08:38.good luck with that, that is an awful lot. How will they determine
:08:39. > :08:43.what a moderate is? I think the Independent on Sunday, Jeremy Corbyn
:08:44. > :08:49.is getting more popular, it says, with the Labour Party voters than
:08:50. > :08:53.less so. It is a mighty mess. There are all sorts of parts to this mess.
:08:54. > :08:59.The Oldham West by-election, many people within Labour said, we might
:09:00. > :09:03.not do very well, we might lose. They were wishing that. Some perhaps
:09:04. > :09:09.worth. They didn't, the boat share went up. That was the first
:09:10. > :09:14.electoral test of Jeremy Corbyn, which he passed. The next one will
:09:15. > :09:17.be the May elections, then the London mayoral elections. If Labour
:09:18. > :09:21.does badly there will be fresh calls to have a change at the top. What
:09:22. > :09:27.the Telegraph is probably accurately reflecting is given the size of his
:09:28. > :09:32.mandate, May 2016 is probably too early to move within the grassroots
:09:33. > :09:35.elements of the Labour Party, and it will take longer than that. The
:09:36. > :09:39.Telegraph have spoken to moderates and said the only way we can do
:09:40. > :09:43.this, Jeremy Corbyn wants to change the party in his own image and make
:09:44. > :09:47.it more left-wing, we will fight that by getting more moderates in.
:09:48. > :09:52.100,000 new members, theoretically, is a good strategy, but it is an
:09:53. > :09:55.awful lot of people to attract. Do you ever wonder, if any of the other
:09:56. > :10:00.people were elected leader, they would still be in real trouble?
:10:01. > :10:03.Having gone through a fairly catastrophic election defeat, with
:10:04. > :10:10.the economy picking up, we have heard news this week saying that
:10:11. > :10:14.despite the problems of austerity, anybody leading the Labour Party
:10:15. > :10:18.would be in trouble at the moment? It has gone so to the right over the
:10:19. > :10:23.past two years that sometimes an ordinary voter, which is what I am
:10:24. > :10:30.on election day, would I vote for Tory-lite or Tory Tory? That was the
:10:31. > :10:34.choice. I think it is really good. I am not a groupie of Jeremy Corbyn
:10:35. > :10:37.but I think it is really good that the poor, the people most suffering
:10:38. > :10:41.under austerity have somebody speaking for them. We have to have a
:10:42. > :10:49.spectrum of opinion, we didn't have any. To use and think that when
:10:50. > :10:54.papers make it quite clear they generally don't like Jeremy Corbyn,
:10:55. > :10:58.that helps him? Lots of people go, oh, those newspapers, what have they
:10:59. > :11:00.got it in for him, he must be doing something right, because we don't
:11:01. > :11:07.like newspapers very much? Definitely. Even if you like the
:11:08. > :11:11.left of centre papers, some of their columnists do not support the Labour
:11:12. > :11:17.leader. In social media many people say, the papers would say that, of
:11:18. > :11:20.course they hate him, it confirms their support and reaffirms
:11:21. > :11:24.prejudices against certain parts of the media and increases support for
:11:25. > :11:28.Jeremy Corbyn. They will continue to do pretty well among the young and
:11:29. > :11:34.largely disenfranchised generation. We will see how things progress. If
:11:35. > :11:37.he does fairly well in May, he might be that 2017 and potentially even
:11:38. > :11:42.the next general election in 2020. I think this is a cracking story in
:11:43. > :11:47.the Mail on Sunday, Shaker Aamer says jihadis must get the hell out
:11:48. > :11:51.of Britain. I need with the last British resident Guantanamo Bay. He
:11:52. > :11:59.talks about his ordeal but he has a message. It is an incredible coup
:12:00. > :12:03.for the Mail on Sunday, and David Rose, who has been an investigative
:12:04. > :12:08.journalist for a very long time. He developed this relationship with
:12:09. > :12:15.Shaker Aamer over many years, he knows him well and you see the man,
:12:16. > :12:18.not the semi-destroyed prisoner who arrived back after 14 years. I am
:12:19. > :12:25.just so pleased he has said this, jihadis must get the hell... If this
:12:26. > :12:30.man, who has suffered so much, can see that we Muslims, I speak as a
:12:31. > :12:35.Muslim briefly for now, have a problem with these insane haters of
:12:36. > :12:41.the West who are amongst the luckiest Muslims in the world,
:12:42. > :12:46.because at least we live in a secure country, we have some kind of
:12:47. > :12:51.democracy. Name one Muslim nation where any of us could have the basic
:12:52. > :12:55.rights we have here? OK, sometimes the state is unfair to us, there is
:12:56. > :13:00.racism and all of that but, honestly, it is time we spoke up. It
:13:01. > :13:07.is time we spoke up just to say we are lucky to be here. And if he can
:13:08. > :13:12.do it, it really helps. I can tell you how much I admire this man for
:13:13. > :13:18.retaining his humanity after all this. It would be difficult not to
:13:19. > :13:22.be very bitter to buy what he says he went through. That is right, but
:13:23. > :13:29.he is talking about the joy of being reunited with his family. It is
:13:30. > :13:34.astonishing, the Mail and David Rose had spent five days interview Heming
:13:35. > :13:38.that a great interview him, nine pages. There is a lot of talk about
:13:39. > :13:42.how he was trusted in Guantanamo Bay and denied the right to make a
:13:43. > :13:48.dramatic bid you appeal to try to stop Jihadi John beheading a British
:13:49. > :13:56.aid worker, Alan Henning. All sorts of Revelations. Normally I would be
:13:57. > :14:01.against any paper having nine pages of a weekly paper with one story,
:14:02. > :14:04.but there is so much, his torture, capture, the way he was treated and
:14:05. > :14:09.a real insight into what goes on in the camp. It is not on the front
:14:10. > :14:12.pages now, but the Donald Trump story, ban all Muslims from coming
:14:13. > :14:19.to the United States, all Muslims are the same as the predicate of
:14:20. > :14:23.that. Absolutely. And America has terribly important questions to
:14:24. > :14:28.answer. It is a poser bastion of democracy, Guantanamo is still open
:14:29. > :14:32.despite of what Obama promised. -- it is a supposed Bastian.
:14:33. > :14:38.Politicians like oral Trump get this high. There is an thing quite insane
:14:39. > :14:45.about that nation. I don't hate America but I sometimes worry about
:14:46. > :14:52.its sanity. The Sunday Times has another aspect of this team we are
:14:53. > :14:56.talking about which is the witness to what happened at a June station
:14:57. > :15:02.in London a week ago, the man who said you ain't no Muslim, bruv, he
:15:03. > :15:06.says he himself is not Muslim, he says, I know Muslims, I have Muslim
:15:07. > :15:11.friends, I was just upset with what I saw some I had to let him know how
:15:12. > :15:17.I felt. It is quite an interesting story, they did a good job tracking
:15:18. > :15:21.him down. But he is worried now about some of the crazies we have
:15:22. > :15:25.here coming for him and he is right to be a little bit worried, because
:15:26. > :15:32.everything was photographed and filmed. Well done, him, really, for
:15:33. > :15:36.saying what he said and in the way he said it, really. What did you
:15:37. > :15:42.think when you first heard it? I first saw it on Twitter. I thought,
:15:43. > :15:50.great, good for you. The simplicity of what he said, and I've lived the
:15:51. > :15:55.bruv, that is why it went viral. He could have made a serious, sober
:15:56. > :16:00.speech, and it would not have. It was capturing that youthful outrage,
:16:01. > :16:05.I think it was brilliant. What did you think? Weldon to the Sunday
:16:06. > :16:07.Times and Josh Boswell, the byline, for tracking down this chap who
:16:08. > :16:15.seems to be a security guard from North London. As Yasmin said it is
:16:16. > :16:19.worrying that he is worried about having his surname revealed, he is
:16:20. > :16:24.only named as 39 you wrote John, he is worried about the way his words
:16:25. > :16:32.went viral ads were such a robust to Isis that he is worried he is a
:16:33. > :16:35.target. He says that he knows Muslims, they are overwhelmingly
:16:36. > :16:40.good people, but he is worried for his own security cost of the nature
:16:41. > :16:46.of how things are these days. Let's end with the Sunday express, protest
:16:47. > :16:50.at Trump's pledge on migrants and roadworks banished, victory for the
:16:51. > :16:56.traffic Crusaders as the Minister clears 400 miles of road for
:16:57. > :16:59.Christmas. Don't hold your breath about not getting caught in a road
:17:00. > :17:06.problem this Christmas, I would not bet on it. The Transport Secretary,
:17:07. > :17:10.Patrick McLoughin, is saying he is doing his best to make sure there is
:17:11. > :17:13.no disruption. Let's see what happens over Christmas, there are
:17:14. > :17:17.usually problems with the railways in various forms of transport. It is
:17:18. > :17:24.a great British institution to have Christmas chaos. Every road in
:17:25. > :17:28.London seems to be being dug up. The road around the corner from me is
:17:29. > :17:36.dug up three times a year, I don't know why! It is a relief not to read
:17:37. > :17:42.about Diana or the weather... Oh, hang on, we have it. Just to end on
:17:43. > :17:49.Donald Trump, he remains the Republican frontrunner. America has
:17:50. > :17:53.not begun to focus yet? It takes quite a long time before we come to
:17:54. > :17:58.thinking who they will vote for rather than who they like listening
:17:59. > :18:01.to on television? What Trump reflects, most Brits, when they go
:18:02. > :18:07.to America they can go to New York or California and meet quite
:18:08. > :18:11.sensible and intelligent people, without being hugely regionalist.
:18:12. > :18:15.But it is these flyover states, the South and other places where Donald
:18:16. > :18:20.Trump is attractive. We might think that is bad, but he is very popular
:18:21. > :18:29.in a big chunk of America. We must not be too Sanogo. The Tea Party has
:18:30. > :18:34.fizzled away, but he is speaking to the American tea party lost, they
:18:35. > :18:41.hate the government, they hate outsiders, more and more weaponry.
:18:42. > :18:47.Maybe this is how democracy is let off steam, he says what people
:18:48. > :18:52.think, but people like dig Cheney say that he does not think like
:18:53. > :18:57.that. People within the Republican establishment... Dig Cheney said
:18:58. > :19:01.that?! Yes, he said it was un-American to suggest adding
:19:02. > :19:07.Muslims. This might be the first time you have agreed with dig
:19:08. > :19:08.Cheney! I can't speak! We will leave it there.
:19:09. > :19:10.Thanks to Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and Vincent Moss.
:19:11. > :19:13.Just a reminder we take a look at tomorrow's front pages every
:19:14. > :19:31.evening at 10:30pm and 11:30pm here on BBC News.
:19:32. > :19:32.Really cold across Scotland and northern England