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:00:00. > :00:00.nervous wait after he cited for making contact with opponent's eyes.

:00:00. > :00:14.-- an opponent. to what the the papers

:00:15. > :00:19.will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are Deborah Haynes,

:00:20. > :00:25.who's defence editor with the Times, political editor

:00:26. > :00:37.for the Daily Record. The Daily Telegraph, get us started

:00:38. > :00:46.on this, Deborah, Cameron will back the Muslim veil ban, we knew what he

:00:47. > :00:51.wanted to do about people speaking English, this goes further. The

:00:52. > :00:54.Telegraph has picked up comments made in an interview by David

:00:55. > :01:03.Cameron with the Today programme this morning, and it talks about how

:01:04. > :01:07.the veil could be banned for students at school, institutions

:01:08. > :01:13.such as courts, people arriving at the border. He is not saying it goes

:01:14. > :01:20.as far as a French style actual ban, but in certain situations he says

:01:21. > :01:25.that he could see the sense of, you know, Muslim women not being allowed

:01:26. > :01:28.to wear the veil, which, you know, the Telegraph goes into depth about

:01:29. > :01:33.how this will reignite the debate about whether it would be a French

:01:34. > :01:39.style ban over the veil, and he also, it also goes on to talk about

:01:40. > :01:44.a range of measures that the Government is preparing, apparently,

:01:45. > :01:47.to stop British Muslims from being radicalised and travelling to join

:01:48. > :01:52.Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, which seems to be the foundation for

:01:53. > :01:55.it all. Indeed, Torcuil, this is the second leg of it, the idea that

:01:56. > :02:00.those who do not speak English and be encouraged to do so, even though

:02:01. > :02:06.the funding for that was cut in recent years. This will be day two

:02:07. > :02:11.of Cameron's clamp down on Muslims, as you could portray it, because he

:02:12. > :02:16.managed to conflate and confuse the story on the radio, ?20 million to

:02:17. > :02:22.fund education for Mars and women coming into Britain who do not speak

:02:23. > :02:27.English, that is fine. -- for Muslim women. He managed to conflate that

:02:28. > :02:30.with radicalisation, with the fear that the Government and lots of

:02:31. > :02:36.people in Britain have about parts of the Muslim community being

:02:37. > :02:39.radicalised and going to fight for Isis, and this was not clever

:02:40. > :02:47.politics. The Telegraph have taken the quotes, shaken this about a bit,

:02:48. > :02:53.and managed to put this into the day two story about the veil, which

:02:54. > :02:57.opens up... It has been talked about for some time, in France too. For a

:02:58. > :03:02.lot of people, it will resonate, they may think we should go down the

:03:03. > :03:06.French road. The French road seems prescriptive to me and other people,

:03:07. > :03:09.and even Cameron himself says that people are free to wear what they

:03:10. > :03:18.want within reason, but there will be places, courts, hospitals,

:03:19. > :03:24.perhaps council buildings... Schools is an interesting one. At the

:03:25. > :03:29.barrier between the private and public breaks down in these places,

:03:30. > :03:34.people become part of a bigger society, which is what is behind

:03:35. > :03:38.this whole thing, about trying to get citizenship and a sense of

:03:39. > :03:41.Britishness and a sense of belonging, because there is this

:03:42. > :03:47.uncertainty and fear now about whether we live in one community or

:03:48. > :03:53.two or five or ten, the sense of community breaking down. Let's move

:03:54. > :04:01.on, right, Torcuil, the Financial Times, the big story of the day, the

:04:02. > :04:06.problems with steel, Tata cutting 1000 jobs in Port Talbot, and the

:04:07. > :04:10.Chinese getting the blame. The Chinese, quite rightly, getting the

:04:11. > :04:15.blame! There are other factors, it has to be said. You have to blame

:04:16. > :04:19.the phenomenon of globalisation, really. Basically, the world

:04:20. > :04:24.produces too much steel, and there is no demand for it. China produces

:04:25. > :04:28.1.1 billion tonnes of the stuff, and we only need 1.6 billion tonnes per

:04:29. > :04:34.year. There is no greater symbol of that than the car park at Port

:04:35. > :04:37.Talbot, where the steel is stacked up in the car park, because they

:04:38. > :04:43.have got nowhere else to put it and they cannot sell it. The FT has gone

:04:44. > :04:47.on moving the story forward from the job losses, 750 at Port Talbot, more

:04:48. > :04:52.in the North of England, they have moved it on to this thing called

:04:53. > :04:55.market economy status, which is what China wants from the World Trade

:04:56. > :05:01.Organisation this year, and it looks like the WTO might give them it, a

:05:02. > :05:04.market where what I am willing to pay for the commodity is what you

:05:05. > :05:10.will sell it at, and the state does not have any interference in the

:05:11. > :05:15.market. Of course, China's mass of control of its economy, it is not a

:05:16. > :05:20.market economy yet, and experts have been warning that granting China

:05:21. > :05:25.this status would cost Europe, one of the biggest markets, it would

:05:26. > :05:35.cost it 3.5 million jobs, and something like ?228 billion of lost

:05:36. > :05:39.orders. All very good and so forth, but, Deborah, the impact on Port

:05:40. > :05:43.Talbot, we have seen it in other places, Middlesbrough and so on, it

:05:44. > :05:49.is not just the jobs immediately at risk, other industries and

:05:50. > :05:53.businesses, little businesses, cafes, bus companies, everybody

:05:54. > :05:57.suffers accordingly. Absolutely, such a wide reaching issue. There

:05:58. > :06:02.was like a debate in Parliament today about defence is used, talking

:06:03. > :06:05.about the nuclear deterrent, and the replacement of the submarines,

:06:06. > :06:12.asking whether steel for that project will be British or Chinese.

:06:13. > :06:17.So it touches all walks of life, and this story in the FT is a very clear

:06:18. > :06:22.about the impact, and it seems like this is going to happen. It is just

:06:23. > :06:27.a massive correction anyway that, you know, the whole world deals with

:06:28. > :06:32.producing and purchasing steel. Linked to that, and other FT

:06:33. > :06:37.front-page story, Deborah, about what is happening in the oil market,

:06:38. > :06:40.Iran apparently threatening to increase production considerably.

:06:41. > :06:46.The price is already going down like a stone, surely it can only go down

:06:47. > :06:50.further. Fascinating story, we have had years and years of diplomacy

:06:51. > :06:53.ending in this historic moment, the sanctions that were imposed on the

:06:54. > :06:59.Iranian regime to stop it from developing a nuclear bomb have been

:07:00. > :07:02.lifted, and immediately it is very orchestrated, isn't it? Clearly a

:07:03. > :07:07.lot of planning, people knew this was going to happen, and immediately

:07:08. > :07:11.they have ordered an increase of 500,000 barrels a day in its

:07:12. > :07:16.production, and apparently Iranian tankers loaded with 50 million

:07:17. > :07:21.barrels of crude... Half a million. 50 million barrels setting sail

:07:22. > :07:28.following the lifting of the sanctions. I love these little

:07:29. > :07:36.details! Very interestingly, the price of oil went down to $28 per

:07:37. > :07:40.barrel, which is its lowest level since 2003, and you have got major

:07:41. > :07:45.banks warning last week, or predicting last week, that it is

:07:46. > :07:50.going to go even further, down to about $10 per barrel. That is a

:07:51. > :07:56.level we have not seen since the Asian financial crisis. A heck of a

:07:57. > :08:01.difficult situation for everybody concerned, but the net effect will

:08:02. > :08:07.be oil going down, which is good in some ways. Cheap petrol. But not

:08:08. > :08:11.many other places. Good for filling your oil tank for your stove this

:08:12. > :08:16.winter, or if you are driving onto the fork out of the supermarket

:08:17. > :08:21.petrol station, paying less than ?1 per litre. Bad news if you work in

:08:22. > :08:24.the North Sea, bad news if you live in Aberdeenshire or the Northeast,

:08:25. > :08:28.some of the highest earning postcodes in the UK will be hit by

:08:29. > :08:38.this, and not a street, Robel Village will be affected by a

:08:39. > :08:43.downturn in the North Sea. -- not a street, road or village. MI5

:08:44. > :08:50.declared best LGBT employer, maybe some people will think what that

:08:51. > :08:55.means? Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transsexual, gay would be the short

:08:56. > :09:01.code we would use. Stonewall has declared that MI5, the Secret

:09:02. > :09:04.Intelligence Service, is the best employer in diversifying its

:09:05. > :09:09.workforce, getting different people to work for it. The question is, how

:09:10. > :09:15.do we know that? Aren't they meant to be secret agents?! And the story

:09:16. > :09:20.behind that, MI5 is recruiting furiously just now to counter the

:09:21. > :09:27.terror threat that it meets from Islamic fundamentalism, and the

:09:28. > :09:32.number of staff they employ maybe far in excess of that. Interesting

:09:33. > :09:37.how Islamic State have a hardline rule against gay people, checking

:09:38. > :09:41.them off buildings, a bit of a counter narrative, it shows how

:09:42. > :09:45.different we are. Certainly a surprise. Deborah, the Sun, crack

:09:46. > :09:54.shot this, what is this about? This is

:09:55. > :09:59.part and parcel of a big kind of story, a much larger to do with

:10:00. > :10:05.after the Iraq invasion, and also the war in Afghanistan, lots and

:10:06. > :10:10.lots of claims being made about alleged abuse by British forces, and

:10:11. > :10:16.it has resulted in this huge historic allegations tribunal being

:10:17. > :10:21.set up by the MOD, independent of the MOD, to look into these

:10:22. > :10:25.allegations, and there are 1500 allegations that are being looked

:10:26. > :10:32.at, affecting almost 300 soldiers. There is a sense of outrage on the

:10:33. > :10:37.part of the military that, you know, it is ambulance chasing lawyers,

:10:38. > :10:41.that sort of thing. This particular story? This particular story is

:10:42. > :10:48.talking about how, allegedly, a British sniper is being probed for

:10:49. > :10:52.killing an Iraqi who was about to throw a grenade because he did not

:10:53. > :10:57.shout a warning shot. He would have been the first sniper in history to

:10:58. > :11:02.do that! On the streets of Britain, police have to shout a warning, but

:11:03. > :11:08.I am not sure that it ever applied to soldiers in any war. Soldiers,

:11:09. > :11:12.like policemen, have very specific rules of engagement depending on

:11:13. > :11:16.their theatre of war, where their operations are taking place, but for

:11:17. > :11:20.a sniper to shout a warning is crazy. It feeds into this whole

:11:21. > :11:24.story, the background about ambulance chasing lawyers trying to

:11:25. > :11:27.sue British soldiers a sickly fighting not just to defend the

:11:28. > :11:36.country but often fighting for their lives. -- basically. We have to

:11:37. > :11:41.leave it at there, Deborah, Torcuil, thank you very much indeed. We will

:11:42. > :11:46.be back at 11:34 another look at the stories making the front pages

:11:47. > :11:52.tomorrow. -- at 11:30 for another look. At 11 o'clock, we will have

:11:53. > :11:54.more on the steel industry crisis, but coming up next it is time for

:11:55. > :12:00.Sportsday.