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:00:00. > :00:09.Manchester United and Derby County. And another setback for many to a

:00:10. > :00:15.lady -- Tualagi. Hello and welcome to our look

:00:16. > :00:18.ahead to what the the papers With me are the Evening Standard

:00:19. > :00:22.columnist Mihir Bose and Assistant The Times leads on a payout made to

:00:23. > :00:35.eight Republicans who had their convictions for being part

:00:36. > :00:38.of an IRA kidnap gang overturned. The Sun leads on the case of

:00:39. > :00:40.Tareena Shakil, the first British woman found guilty

:00:41. > :00:49.of being a member of IS. A new theory that Alzheimer's may

:00:50. > :00:52.have been transmitted between patients during particular types of

:00:53. > :01:01.surgery, that's the lead in the i. In the Telegraph,

:01:02. > :01:03.the Head of the Army warns that fabricated legal claims made against

:01:04. > :01:06.the military may cause soldiers to The Daily Mail leads

:01:07. > :01:10.on comments made by a senior immigration judge that many migrants

:01:11. > :01:13.in Calais are not genuine refugees. Hospitals are being told

:01:14. > :01:15.by regulators to get rid of staff to rescue the NHS

:01:16. > :01:17.from financial crisis, And the Independent leads

:01:18. > :01:21.on comments by a World Health Organisation expert

:01:22. > :01:23.that the Zika virus could travel across the Atlantic to Africa,

:01:24. > :01:36.and even to parts of Europe. We will start with the Daily Mail.

:01:37. > :01:46.Migrants, a judge who dared to tell the truth. He says that many in

:01:47. > :01:54.Calais are not genuine refugees and they are after our benefits. This is

:01:55. > :01:59.a judge who is considering the application of four refugees who

:02:00. > :02:05.have siblings said to come to the country. He had granted them leave

:02:06. > :02:10.to come to this country, but there were special circumstances, the

:02:11. > :02:14.question of a possible mental disorder and disability. At the same

:02:15. > :02:20.time, he has used a judgement to say that not everyone in the Calais

:02:21. > :02:23.jungle can claim to be a refugee, that many are just migrants who see

:02:24. > :02:26.a better life in this country and they want to leave France and come

:02:27. > :02:30.to Britain, because Britain offers more. This raises the question, a

:02:31. > :02:37.lot of people have discussed this in this country. Many refugees a

:02:38. > :02:40.terrible situation, many are fleeing war, but many of the others are

:02:41. > :02:45.piggybacking on the back of them, if you like, hoping to come to this

:02:46. > :02:49.country because they think it offers a better life. Doesn't the

:02:50. > :02:56.accusation that they are after benefits that Britain offers get

:02:57. > :03:02.contradicted frequently by statistics that we net gain by

:03:03. > :03:06.having immigrants and refugees here? We are in the middle of the

:03:07. > :03:08.great philosophical argument as to whether refugees are phenomenal

:03:09. > :03:14.source of capital, talent and employment, which is what Germany

:03:15. > :03:19.thought when it brought in all those refugees, or as to whether they will

:03:20. > :03:22.just be a drain on our services. It will be a debate that runs right

:03:23. > :03:26.through to the referendum on EU membership. You are saying to me

:03:27. > :03:31.earlier that you thought that migrants would be the issue, the

:03:32. > :03:35.issue that decide the outcome of the vote. I think so. I think a lot of

:03:36. > :03:40.people feel that they are losing their country, and that fear will be

:03:41. > :03:46.played on by those who feel we should leave the EU. The question

:03:47. > :03:49.will be, we are part of the EU, free movement of labour, so any number of

:03:50. > :03:55.people from Europe can legitimately come. I think that will be a hard

:03:56. > :03:58.line. As far as refugees are concerned, we are facing a situation

:03:59. > :04:02.we have never faced before in Europe were a lot of refugees are coming

:04:03. > :04:07.from another culture, that is one thing, and normally they come backed

:04:08. > :04:11.by armies. These are poor and helpless refugees, most of them

:04:12. > :04:16.fleeing war. How does Europe, which claims to be a humanitarian

:04:17. > :04:20.continent, with great humanitarian traditions, how do we cope with

:04:21. > :04:25.that? What the judge has raised and this is what the paper has

:04:26. > :04:29.highlighted, in addition to those sterile are the refugees who are

:04:30. > :04:39.economic migrants and they should be judged by different standards. Also

:04:40. > :04:43.we are seeing great moral problems that Sweden is having, which was a

:04:44. > :04:47.very welcoming country and is now turning the other way. It is an

:04:48. > :04:53.extraordinary moment in our history, and people really want to

:04:54. > :04:57.be kind but they feel that maybe they look as if they are mugs. There

:04:58. > :05:03.are so many complex arguments rolling around. You mentioned the EU

:05:04. > :05:08.referendum. The Daily Express headline, pathetic EU deal in chaos.

:05:09. > :05:14.The PM is said to be under pressure, vowing to keep on fighting. Has a

:05:15. > :05:19.deal being done? I think there has just been a lot of discussions. This

:05:20. > :05:22.idea that the PM is saying that he wants to get rid of the idea that

:05:23. > :05:27.people get something for nothing, it is merely under deliberation, this

:05:28. > :05:36.idea. There has been no deal to put a brake on benefits for migrants at

:05:37. > :05:39.all. This is in the Express, which is a paper that will argue that we

:05:40. > :05:44.should leave the EU I think. We have had a feeling among those who want

:05:45. > :05:47.to leave in the past few weeks that the PM and some of the other

:05:48. > :05:51.ministers are already making the case for Europe, for us to stay, and

:05:52. > :05:55.if you like this is the backlash argument coming up and saying, there

:05:56. > :05:59.is no deal coming along, the PM can't get a deal good enough for us

:06:00. > :06:06.to stay. How many more months doing have obvious? I'm trying to count

:06:07. > :06:10.how many... How weary people will be the EU referendum by the time it

:06:11. > :06:14.comes around. This debate will be longer than the one about whether

:06:15. > :06:19.Louis van Gaal stays at Manchester United. Which we have all followed

:06:20. > :06:25.as closely as you have. If you are in the Yes camp or the No camp, stay

:06:26. > :06:30.or go, you have decided anyway, haven't you? I don't know whether

:06:31. > :06:36.anyone is truthful about their voting intentions following the

:06:37. > :06:41.general election. All these shy Tories, people who profess to great

:06:42. > :06:46.socialist ideas, but when they get their finger in a polling booth a

:06:47. > :06:51.vote Tory. I think there are quite a lot of people undecided, and I think

:06:52. > :06:57.that politicians and all these warring sides need to realise that

:06:58. > :07:01.the average person only turns on to politics for a few days around the

:07:02. > :07:05.time of an election. Just as they get into the booth. I think it

:07:06. > :07:10.depends on whether the younger people vote or not. If they do, we

:07:11. > :07:15.will stay in. If it is mainly the older people, I think we might well

:07:16. > :07:20.be out of the EU. That is my feeling, and I'm not a poster. Say

:07:21. > :07:27.that recording and we will play it back and see if you were right.

:07:28. > :07:34.Outrage pay-out for IRA gang. ?1.6 million reward as soldiers and the

:07:35. > :07:39.tombs suffer. These are convictions that were quashed because there was

:07:40. > :07:48.a secret agent involved in the defence were not told. There was

:07:49. > :07:56.someone involved in the ranks of the IRA, and this was not to disclosed,

:07:57. > :08:03.someone was kept kidnapped in the house. Now we come to the moment of

:08:04. > :08:07.compensation, which seems to be a roundabout ?200,000 each are these

:08:08. > :08:12.people, including a member of the IRA who famously said that power

:08:13. > :08:18.would be grabbed with a ballot box and the Armalite. I sense an awful

:08:19. > :08:22.lot of people will be quite disturbed and dismayed by this,

:08:23. > :08:26.thinking, what about the compensation for people who have had

:08:27. > :08:34.no redress for injuries from bombings, and also the ability of

:08:35. > :08:40.lawyers to get money for people who have been found guilty? They were

:08:41. > :08:46.only exploiting or following the rules, aren't they? They were

:08:47. > :08:49.following the rules. They have changed, and prove that the crime

:08:50. > :08:55.was not permitted, in order to overturn something. In this case,

:08:56. > :08:58.that information was not disclosed. I think this reflects the fact that

:08:59. > :09:03.we live in the compensation culture, that anybody who feels they have

:09:04. > :09:09.been a victim of justice claims condensation. The other question is,

:09:10. > :09:17.this has taken so long, some of these crimes were committed 25 years

:09:18. > :09:25.ago. It does raise the question as to why it has taken so long. And

:09:26. > :09:30.also about how much we know about the troubles, and what will always

:09:31. > :09:34.remain secret in the relationship between the British government and

:09:35. > :09:42.informants, and members of the IRA and informants. These Troubles will

:09:43. > :09:47.haunt us for many decades to come. It is almost within families, that

:09:48. > :09:54.is part of the problem. The Guardian has a picture of the daughter of

:09:55. > :09:56.Aravindan Balakrishnan, who has been jailed for 35 years. She was

:09:57. > :10:04.imprisoned by her father in south London for 30 years, and yet she

:10:05. > :10:09.says she has forgiven him. I think this is a remarkable story. She says

:10:10. > :10:14.she has forgiven her father, taking the advice of Nelson Mandela, who

:10:15. > :10:17.said if you leave prison with anger and bitterness, you are still in

:10:18. > :10:20.Britain. The fact that she has been willing to do that when the

:10:21. > :10:27.temptation must have been very great not to come out and talk about it at

:10:28. > :10:32.all, and also to come out and be very bitter about it... To think

:10:33. > :10:36.this was a father who told her you must never leave the house because

:10:37. > :10:43.there are fascist groups out there who are going to enslave you. And

:10:44. > :10:48.not just for a few months or years, but for such a length of time. To

:10:49. > :10:52.imagine the cruelty that this girl must have gone through. Apparently

:10:53. > :10:59.she is a very bright woman, who was terrified of crossing the road

:11:00. > :11:03.because she had never done it. She was told she would spontaneously

:11:04. > :11:07.combust if she stepped outside and threatened the rule of law. This is

:11:08. > :11:14.an important thing newspapers need to do to make people realise life is

:11:15. > :11:19.worth living. To hold a people and say if she can put that kind of past

:11:20. > :11:24.behind her, what can I do? I do think there will be a big emotional

:11:25. > :11:28.response to this. This is a terrible family story of how this could

:11:29. > :11:32.happen. And the amazing thing is that Balakrishnan still has some

:11:33. > :11:39.women who say he is right and that he is the victim. The FT, Japan

:11:40. > :11:47.enjoys the negative rates club, the move sparks surge in equities and

:11:48. > :11:53.bonds, fears rise over China and of slowdown. This feels like deja vu

:11:54. > :11:57.for Japan. This is an interesting headline because an awful lot of the

:11:58. > :12:12.18 million savers in Britain will read that headline and think, there

:12:13. > :12:15.have by the grace of God go where. People will think, what is the

:12:16. > :12:20.difference between what I am receiving and negative rates? This

:12:21. > :12:23.is Japan flailing around and trying to find ways of getting its economy

:12:24. > :12:30.moving again, to deal with the problems of the fact that they have

:12:31. > :12:34.a shrinking population, an ageing population, and to get people

:12:35. > :12:42.spending. Whether this will overcome the natural habits of thrift, I'm

:12:43. > :12:46.not sure. They must hope that if you have to pay to keep your money in

:12:47. > :12:51.the bank, you might as well go out and shop. Of course, whether it

:12:52. > :12:55.happens or not... Of course I think the implication of the FT leading on

:12:56. > :12:59.this story is that we might see it happening here. Probably not in this

:13:00. > :13:05.country, I don't think we need negative rates here. The ECB and the

:13:06. > :13:08.Bank of England have said they are willing to shift their policy

:13:09. > :13:14.stances as well, because they were heading towards rate rises. The

:13:15. > :13:18.final story on the FT, Apple build a virtual reality unit in search of

:13:19. > :13:32.the next tech platform. Who are they trying to outdo? An interesting

:13:33. > :13:39.story. We may be at Pete iPhone. -- peak. Many people have got an iPhone

:13:40. > :13:42.and maybe they didn't want one, so maybe people want to move onto

:13:43. > :13:47.something else. I am told people will put virtual reality goggles on

:13:48. > :13:51.to visualise pieces of furniture in their sitting room to see where they

:13:52. > :13:58.would go. That we may watch news stories that way, read a news story

:13:59. > :14:02.about Syria and then be in Syria. I put these on and I find it slightly

:14:03. > :14:06.unnerving, but Apple is a very interesting company. They are

:14:07. > :14:11.determined not to be left behind, they won't be the Sony of the 21st

:14:12. > :14:14.century. They got left behind in technological innovation and Apple

:14:15. > :14:18.is determined to be one step ahead. It sounds like they are trying to

:14:19. > :14:22.build on something Google did with Google Glass, and Apple tend to do

:14:23. > :14:26.that. They managed to perfect something that was invented by

:14:27. > :14:30.someone else. Apple have a good habit of coming late to the party

:14:31. > :14:37.and drinking the champagne. Or trying to do it. What an excellent

:14:38. > :14:42.idea! That is what we would all like to do, wouldn't we? Apple is at the

:14:43. > :14:50.vanguard of technology, I am so far behind... You are late adopter. I

:14:51. > :14:56.think this thing about virtual reality, many people will be having

:14:57. > :15:02.virtual reality goggles and then living their lives in our living

:15:03. > :15:10.room? Is that how it will be? Apparently the boss of Apple think

:15:11. > :15:15.it is really cool. What we can imagine the carpenters in here. That

:15:16. > :15:18.is it for the Papers tonight, lovely to see you both, thank you very

:15:19. > :15:19.much. Now, Sportsday.