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:00:00. > :00:00.Australian appointment in English rugby. In the first of International

:00:00. > :00:00.is for England's cricketers in South Africa. That's in that's in

:00:07. > :00:32.Sportsday in 15 minutes. Here it is the -- here is the Papers.

:00:33. > :00:35.Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

:00:36. > :00:38.With me are Emily Ashton, who is chief political correspondent

:00:39. > :00:41.at Buzzfeed, and Dan Bilefsky from the New York Times.

:00:42. > :00:47.We began with the odds of Britain's staying in the EU, Ladbrokes have

:00:48. > :00:52.slashed them today, saying it equates to a 71% chance that we will

:00:53. > :00:58.stay. The Mirror thinks it is a gamble. At this time of unease, when

:00:59. > :01:01.Europe is buffeted by migration crises, economic crises, I think

:01:02. > :01:07.there is a feeling that pragmatic writs might be more apt to maintain

:01:08. > :01:13.the status quo rather than doing something cataclysmic like leaving

:01:14. > :01:19.the EU -- Brits. It could prove to revolution at this point in time.

:01:20. > :01:24.How much will headlines like this in the Sun affect that decision? It is

:01:25. > :01:30.quite a front page, and it is not the only front page to go with the

:01:31. > :01:41.EU. We like that, the Express says you are joking. And honestly, dad 's

:01:42. > :01:47.Army in the news. But yes, the Sun has long campaigned for a kind of

:01:48. > :01:53.cut in immigration, which David Cameron a year or two ago said he

:01:54. > :01:57.was up for. And obviously he made this pledge, didn't he, to get net

:01:58. > :02:01.immigration down to the tens of thousands a year. It has stubbornly

:02:02. > :02:05.remained a lot higher than that now he believes that this deal will get

:02:06. > :02:11.immigration down. What it will do is actually limit benefits for EU

:02:12. > :02:17.migrants. Experts say that that will not cut migration at all. So this is

:02:18. > :02:22.the background. And this is in the great tradition of Sun covers, there

:02:23. > :02:27.have been other moments in Britain's relations with Europe, and

:02:28. > :02:31.the subliminal message of that, the arrows all pointing towards Britain

:02:32. > :02:35.is that we are under an invasion and we just had the former Polish

:02:36. > :02:43.Foreign Minister in here saying what would you do without us? What would

:02:44. > :02:47.you do without the Poles? The Poles are a bit like the Mexicans in the

:02:48. > :02:50.United States, without them, the entire service industry wouldn't

:02:51. > :02:53.exist in this country. What would happen to the service industry? What

:02:54. > :02:57.would happen to nurses? What would happen to drivers? What would happen

:02:58. > :03:02.to the people you see smiling at you every day when you go on your lunch

:03:03. > :03:07.break? How does this play, actually? Since we've got you, I know you have

:03:08. > :03:10.bigger fish to fry with Iowa and New Hampshire, but that this resonate

:03:11. > :03:15.with people in the United States? The issues Britain is pondering

:03:16. > :03:19.over? Again, people are slightly distracted by other things in the

:03:20. > :03:23.United States but it is fair to say that Washington would like Britain

:03:24. > :03:28.in the European Union. There is a perception that if Britain is in the

:03:29. > :03:32.EU, then the EU is a trans- Atlantic partner, at a time when there is

:03:33. > :03:38.migration are people, people want pragmatic writs in the European

:03:39. > :03:42.Union. There is a feeling that they are closer to the United States in

:03:43. > :03:46.terms of attitudes to free markets, geopolitics, the trans- Atlantic

:03:47. > :03:50.relationship -- Brits. So Obama and the United States would like written

:03:51. > :03:58.in the European Union. It is a common theme. We have heard this

:03:59. > :04:01.from the Swedes, the Danes, the Dutch, and if we weren't there then

:04:02. > :04:04.Europe would be the poorer for it. And you can actually see that

:04:05. > :04:07.although there are EU leaders nervous about what David Cameron

:04:08. > :04:12.wants, especially on migration, they all really want written to stay in.

:04:13. > :04:15.Britain is pretty crucial to the future of the European Union.

:04:16. > :04:22.Certainly campaigners have been bending over backwards to make sure

:04:23. > :04:26.that David Cameron stays in and what annoys the leave campaign is that

:04:27. > :04:30.they think David Cameron has wanted to stay from the very beginning. In

:04:31. > :04:35.public he says it is all about what we get from this deal. No one but

:04:36. > :04:38.him believe that. It is happening at a time when there is a simmering

:04:39. > :04:44.backlash against migration all across Europe. You have Denmark

:04:45. > :04:48.passing policies in order to keep migrants away, seizing their

:04:49. > :04:51.valuables. You have Finland introducing Draconian measures. What

:04:52. > :04:55.Cameron is doing resonate quite strongly in many European capitals,

:04:56. > :04:58.which is why I think the head of the European Council has come up with a

:04:59. > :05:04.proposal that he believes other member states will accept. You were

:05:05. > :05:07.saying a little earlier that... It is, you have to say it, a pale

:05:08. > :05:11.imitation of what was promised real four month ago. And that is really

:05:12. > :05:18.summed up by the front page of the Daily Mail. They are calling it the

:05:19. > :05:22.great Delusion. It is not a huge surprise, the Daily Mail front page,

:05:23. > :05:27.the deal does fall short of what David Cameron promised but his

:05:28. > :05:31.pledges on the EU have been watered down over the last couple of years.

:05:32. > :05:35.Let's talk about specifics here. We are talking about a four year ban on

:05:36. > :05:39.in work benefits and now we are talking about a graduated... We are

:05:40. > :05:44.talking about an emergency brake. And when he pulls the break, what

:05:45. > :05:49.are the details? Are there gaps in it? It is a long way short of what

:05:50. > :05:53.he was promising. And even if you go back to... That was in the

:05:54. > :05:56.manifesto, this four year benefits banned. We were talking about how he

:05:57. > :06:01.mentioned cuts to immigration altogether. Angela Merkel a couple

:06:02. > :06:08.of years ago put paid to that. He was also talking about adjusting the

:06:09. > :06:11.agricultural policy and he wanted treaty change this time last year,

:06:12. > :06:18.and obviously this isn't happening at all. I think what is in this

:06:19. > :06:23.compromised deal, if it becomes a deal, it doesn't really matter to

:06:24. > :06:27.the average Briton unless they suffer from insomnia and want to

:06:28. > :06:30.read the fine print. What matters is that the Prime Minister has decided

:06:31. > :06:37.to support the yes camp and made it very clear. I think that makes it a

:06:38. > :06:41.seminal moment. It is a key point, because actually if you didn't want

:06:42. > :06:46.to look through the fine print, best of luck. The legalese in there. How

:06:47. > :06:50.many times would you have to read it? Is there a danger that there is

:06:51. > :06:54.in the right kind of information for people to make an informed decision?

:06:55. > :06:59.And that is exactly what they are banking on. That is why they want an

:07:00. > :07:01.early referendum, to avoid too much scrutiny of this. It is quite

:07:02. > :07:04.cynical in the right kind of information for people to make an

:07:05. > :07:06.informed decision? And that is exactly what they are banking on.

:07:07. > :07:08.That is why they want an early referendum, to avoid too much

:07:09. > :07:11.scrutiny of this. It is quite cynical pretty early so people don't

:07:12. > :07:14.look too far into it. On the point is that the Tories know that...

:07:15. > :07:20.David Cameron knows that and if it changes will actually win over a lot

:07:21. > :07:24.of voters -- benefit changes. We were just saying to the former

:07:25. > :07:28.Polish Foreign Minister that benefits have little to do with it.

:07:29. > :07:33.The minimum wage here is far greater than the minimum wage in Poland.

:07:34. > :07:37.Referendums are often difficult to win, and if you look at the history

:07:38. > :07:42.of the European Union in this country in particular, when Britain

:07:43. > :07:47.voted no and the French voted by a very small margin to the European

:07:48. > :07:52.Constitution, the Irish voted no, and at a time when the economy is

:07:53. > :07:56.not particularly strong, you have a migration crisis, people are feeling

:07:57. > :08:00.insecure, they may raise the middle finger to the European Union is some

:08:01. > :08:05.sort of protest vote. Not to draw too wide an analogy but when you

:08:06. > :08:08.look at what is happening in the US election, people are feeling restive

:08:09. > :08:12.and rebelling against the establishment. One would argue that

:08:13. > :08:19.the climate for no vote has seldom been stronger. The summer months

:08:20. > :08:25.will be crucial. If you were a gambling man, you would have to look

:08:26. > :08:28.at the odds and think, well, is it worth defying the Prime Minister on

:08:29. > :08:36.Europe? Many ministers, especially those key ministers like Torres,

:08:37. > :08:39.Michael Gove, and the business Secretary, who are wondering whether

:08:40. > :08:46.the campaign for the out camp -- Boris. There are many Eurosceptic

:08:47. > :08:50.ministers and we know there are, but they haven't shown their hand apart

:08:51. > :08:58.from Crisp Grayling. -- Chris Grayling. And today, David Cameron

:08:59. > :09:03.was given a bit of a boost by Theresa May, who has said it is a

:09:04. > :09:07.deal worth looking at, all we have the basis of a deal, which is

:09:08. > :09:13.great. That is exactly what David Cameron needed. Go is probably not

:09:14. > :09:19.going to jump either but they know it is a losing side at this point --

:09:20. > :09:22.Gove. I don't know if you are plugged into this but it is no

:09:23. > :09:28.secret that the out camp would very much like a Michael Gove figure or a

:09:29. > :09:32.Boris figure to lead them on. Well, Boris Johnson over many years has

:09:33. > :09:38.been very charismatic. It doesn't surprise me at all. It seems to me

:09:39. > :09:42.that he might go behind the yes side but it seems the no side is somewhat

:09:43. > :09:47.divided and polarised and lacking a big figure to give it some momentum,

:09:48. > :09:51.whereas on the yes vote, you have the Prime Minister, you have

:09:52. > :09:57.captains of industry, it seems the winds are flying more towards the

:09:58. > :10:02.yes side. Is the Guardian says, Cameron wins Theresa May's backing

:10:03. > :10:07.over Europe. She is a known Eurosceptic. It is a great win for

:10:08. > :10:11.him. He will be thrilled with the statement which dropped late today,

:10:12. > :10:15.it is in a lot of the front pages and it really secures his hand.

:10:16. > :10:19.Especially among the Tory grassroots. Many of them are pro-

:10:20. > :10:22.Theresa May. She made a hardline speech to the conference about

:10:23. > :10:26.migration and they won't quite sure which way she would go. And that our

:10:27. > :10:31.political editor were saying a little earlier, there is this rather

:10:32. > :10:35.strange period now, isn't there, over the next two weeks where they

:10:36. > :10:39.sort of know the detail but they are not allowed to speak about it. The

:10:40. > :10:48.likes of risk Grayling, sitting on his hands. They are not allowed to

:10:49. > :10:55.come out and -- come out until the deal is actually done -- Chris

:10:56. > :11:02.Grayling. Let's just turn to the elections in Iowa. The dramatic day

:11:03. > :11:07.yesterday. The shock of the new normal jolts the US election. I

:11:08. > :11:10.think the Guardian is referring to this new politics in the US

:11:11. > :11:16.primaries where people cleave to either the far left, characters like

:11:17. > :11:20.Bernie Sanders, ageing hippies who rail against globalisation or people

:11:21. > :11:26.on the far right like Donald Trump or the winner, Ted Cruz, a very

:11:27. > :11:29.strong, young Conservative evangelical fire and brimstone

:11:30. > :11:32.Conservative. People are fed up with the establishment and these

:11:33. > :11:36.candidates are benefiting as a result. Just talk to me about Bernie

:11:37. > :11:42.Sanders. He is an interesting character. He is known as Democratic

:11:43. > :11:47.Socialist. I thought socialism in America was a word you didn't

:11:48. > :11:50.mention. It is, and that is what is interesting about Bernie Sanders. He

:11:51. > :11:55.is such a left-wing candidate, such a raging hippie that you don't

:11:56. > :11:59.expect to see someone like that in the US landscape. Here's something

:12:00. > :12:07.like Jeremy Corbyn, although he would be far right of Jeremy Corbyn,

:12:08. > :12:09.ironically, in a British context. By railing against globalisation,

:12:10. > :12:15.presenting Hillary Clinton as an establishment candidate, as an

:12:16. > :12:18.example of legacy and dynastic politics. He is resonating with

:12:19. > :12:25.young people. Young people like Bernie Sanders, young people also

:12:26. > :12:28.like Jeremy Corbyn. What is the appeal of these ageing lefties for

:12:29. > :12:33.the younger generation? We have a reporter campaigning for Bernie

:12:34. > :12:37.Sanders who voted for Jeremy Corbyn last summer. There is such a

:12:38. > :12:42.parallel there. What do you make of the Republican side of the race? We

:12:43. > :12:49.talk so much in Britain about Donald Trump, and he goes and losers! I

:12:50. > :12:55.know, only by a little bit, but... One should say that Iowa is a small

:12:56. > :12:59.state and although it is an interesting early snapshot, there

:13:00. > :13:03.are many states to go. For my point of view the surprise winner is Marco

:13:04. > :13:07.Rubio, became a strong third and showed that the Republican

:13:08. > :13:10.establishment can rally behind him. The funding establishment can rally

:13:11. > :13:14.behind him and if we end up with a Marco Rubio Hillary Clinton race,

:13:15. > :13:18.that would be very interesting. They have been trailing up until now, but

:13:19. > :13:22.have shown their viability. Trump has had a setback but is doing very

:13:23. > :13:27.well in the polls going ahead towards New Hampshire. There is a

:13:28. > :13:30.question whether this circus performer act will translate for the

:13:31. > :13:33.electorate. He appeals to angry working-class men and women, and he

:13:34. > :13:37.has tapped brilliantly into this kind of politics of anger at when

:13:38. > :13:41.that goes before the entire electorate, there is a question

:13:42. > :13:46.whether it people will see him as the next president of the United

:13:47. > :13:52.States. You have these big, sweeping freeways in the US. Do you have

:13:53. > :13:55.white lines on? Because The Times Says that in Britain it is the end

:13:56. > :14:01.of the road for white lines on highways. Really? Yes, markings are

:14:02. > :14:06.being erased from busy roads across the country in an attempt to slow

:14:07. > :14:11.motorists down. Apparently blank roads introduced this sense of

:14:12. > :14:16.uncertainty, so... We don't know where we are in the road. Motor

:14:17. > :14:20.astride a bit more cautiously. I went to Lebanon and Jordan recently,

:14:21. > :14:28.to look at the Syrian refugee crisis, and I noticed that they do

:14:29. > :14:36.have lanes, but people don't drive cautiously -- motorists drive a bit

:14:37. > :14:40.more cautiously. A simple pot of paint can save lives, in particular

:14:41. > :14:45.highly visible markings at the edge and centre of the road which can be

:14:46. > :14:48.seen at night are enormously cost-effective, so to get rid of

:14:49. > :14:54.them, surely there will be more deaths on the road? As a cyclist,

:14:55. > :15:03.this sounds quite frightening to me. We will pass on that one. Anxious

:15:04. > :15:07.and unhappy says the Express. They must be middle-aged. If you are aged

:15:08. > :15:13.between 14 and 59 you are struggling to cope with caring for elderly

:15:14. > :15:17.parents and raising a family -- 40 and 59. If we were on that game show

:15:18. > :15:23.where you had to name what is troubling you, mortgages and debt. I

:15:24. > :15:26.can see how we do hear these things in Parliament about women in

:15:27. > :15:30.particular who are trapped between caring for children and for elderly

:15:31. > :15:37.relatives at the same time. So I can see how that bracket is affected. No

:15:38. > :15:42.surprise, Dan, that those aged 65 to 74 are deemed to be the happiest,

:15:43. > :15:45.because they have big pensions. Big pensions, their children are out of

:15:46. > :15:49.the house, they can enjoy their retirements. So I guess that is

:15:50. > :15:55.understandable. There is a problem in this country with people older

:15:56. > :15:59.than that who are alone and suffering without much human

:16:00. > :16:03.contact. Yes, I guess it is just those who have the money who can

:16:04. > :16:07.afford to be happy. But anyway, those of us who are middle-aged will

:16:08. > :16:12.plod on. Thank you very much for joining us this evening.

:16:13. > :16:15.Coming up next, it is time for Sportsday.