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:00:15. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:18. > :00:20.With me are the political commentator, Jo Phillips

:00:21. > :00:22.and the Political Editor of the Sunday People,

:00:23. > :00:34.Good evening to you both. Let's have a look at some of the front pages

:00:35. > :00:36.before we discuss them in detail. According to the Sunday Times,

:00:37. > :00:39.the boss of EasyJet has warned that cheap flights are at risk if the UK

:00:40. > :00:42.leaves the European Union. Ahead of the EU referendum the Mail

:00:43. > :00:45.on Sunday says a senior aide to Angela Merkel claims the UK 'can

:00:46. > :00:49.not survive on its own'. 'Public faith in Cameron drops'

:00:50. > :00:51.is the Independent on Sunday's headline, with a new poll claiming 6

:00:52. > :00:55.out of 10 expect the PM not to secure good deal

:00:56. > :00:57.in Brussels talks this week. The Telegraph claims the government

:00:58. > :01:25.could soon fund new onshore wind So let's start with -- let's start

:01:26. > :01:30.with the EU and we start with the Independent. The headlines, public

:01:31. > :01:35.faith in Cameron has dropped and nearly half of voters say the UK

:01:36. > :01:39.would have more control of its borders outside the EU. What do read

:01:40. > :01:50.into that? I think we are not really surprised. Is that where we are at?

:01:51. > :01:54.I am not surprised this is showing that David Cameron's personal

:01:55. > :01:58.ratings have slumped because as yet he hasn't come back with the deal

:01:59. > :02:05.and still has to get that. We won't know what that dealers until after

:02:06. > :02:10.the referendum. We won't know how it will work or what will happen? We

:02:11. > :02:16.will, the whole point about this week coming up is when he goes to

:02:17. > :02:23.Brussels on Thursday, if all goes well, by Friday he will be saying to

:02:24. > :02:27.us how the so-called emergency works on Mike and benefits, that should be

:02:28. > :02:32.clear, he should have the whole thing ticked off and a few goes

:02:33. > :02:37.really well he didn't come out on Friday afternoon, hold a press

:02:38. > :02:43.conference and see referendum June 23, that if it goes well and the

:02:44. > :02:46.confidence isn't clear. But they haven't asked people. It's an

:02:47. > :02:49.interesting Paul because they haven't asked people, if you bought

:02:50. > :02:55.it today or tomorrow would you call in or out which is what the question

:02:56. > :03:00.will be referendum. I think this is mirroring exactly what happened in

:03:01. > :03:03.the Scottish referendum, where if you remember, every single day,

:03:04. > :03:08.there was somebody saying this is what will happen if you come out or

:03:09. > :03:14.stay in, and that will carry on ad infinitum. Do you think that will

:03:15. > :03:18.change when the referendum is announced, and then there will be an

:03:19. > :03:24.in and out campaign with more messages coming across? Yes, and

:03:25. > :03:29.they need to get their messages, as we shall see as we go through the

:03:30. > :03:33.papers. But people are not galvanised about the whole issue and

:03:34. > :03:36.there is one fascinating figure buried away Best Paul Wycherley

:03:37. > :03:41.cheered by the Sunday Mirror which is why I got involved, but buried

:03:42. > :03:46.away as a figure people were asked, do they think they are personally

:03:47. > :03:51.better off in or out of Europe? 45% don't know why that sums up the real

:03:52. > :03:55.problem that is going on the public. It is an ease that Eric wrote

:03:56. > :04:04.happening that seems to be going way above everyone's heads and doesn't

:04:05. > :04:08.impinge on their ordinary lives. -- esoteric. We have to go back to

:04:09. > :04:13.basics and then maybe it will take off. You are saying these are

:04:14. > :04:18.uninformed answers? They are answering questions like what they

:04:19. > :04:22.think of the political parties, Tories up 14% over Labour. They are

:04:23. > :04:28.answering things like do they have faith in Cameron to bring back a

:04:29. > :04:32.deal. That is fine but they are also saying, what are the issues and we

:04:33. > :04:38.want to get down to how it affects us, and frankly we do not know. You

:04:39. > :04:43.have your British economy being better off, 36% saying it would be

:04:44. > :04:47.better off if we left. The problem is that the debate has been so

:04:48. > :04:54.dominated by the refugee and migrant crisis that it is very difficult to

:04:55. > :05:00.get back to the economics. That will be the argument is, that actually in

:05:01. > :05:06.the end, the state campaign will say it is far better for Britain's

:05:07. > :05:09.business and jobs and prosperity and sustainability to stay in, but

:05:10. > :05:14.unfortunately it is now getting sort of tied up and will carry on doing

:05:15. > :05:17.so. And I suppose the problem for both camps is getting people to vote

:05:18. > :05:23.for the good of the country or of the EU? Nobody ever votes for the

:05:24. > :05:27.good of the country! They will vote for what works for them. So the

:05:28. > :05:33.important thing, and many will illustrate this point, the point of

:05:34. > :05:37.it is that people must know how it personally affects them, and at the

:05:38. > :05:41.moment they don't, and the campaign is going at a higher level because

:05:42. > :05:46.saying it is doing this to business or that to migration. They have to

:05:47. > :05:53.narrow it down to the individual. We will get to the express any moment.

:05:54. > :05:57.We will get to that in a moment. I want to do the Daily Mail. Germans,

:05:58. > :06:06.you can't survive without us! They are not quoting Angela Merkel, but

:06:07. > :06:11.describing a diplomat joke. There are three pages of this and as much

:06:12. > :06:17.as I love Simon Walters... The political editor and fellow West Ham

:06:18. > :06:20.supporter. I think this is the biggest load of twaddle I have read

:06:21. > :06:28.in a paper and frankly it is based on two MPs, Bill Cash, the veteran

:06:29. > :06:32.Eurosceptic MP, and a prominent German MP having a bat. This is

:06:33. > :06:35.based on nothing other than an interview with Bill Cash who says

:06:36. > :06:45.exactly what you'd expect him to say. This controversial MP is the

:06:46. > :06:53.head of the nation's key Euro group. There is nothing in this story! This

:06:54. > :06:58.is the pages on somebody's opinion. As stories call, it doesn't really

:06:59. > :07:03.add up to a hill of beans. The is one that I find interesting which is

:07:04. > :07:08.what the argument seems to be about, whether or not Britain would face

:07:09. > :07:12.trade tariffss if we pulled out of Europe. Then you have something

:07:13. > :07:17.which is an important issue, I don't think it would just happen because

:07:18. > :07:21.we got out, but you can imagine a situation whereby another economic

:07:22. > :07:25.crisis, the EU may well start putting up trade barriers and we

:07:26. > :07:30.would be in trouble. Issue is like that are important but this is a

:07:31. > :07:37.spat between two MPs, both of whom are not the most exciting on earth!

:07:38. > :07:42.As one of our colleagues pointed out, let's just step back and

:07:43. > :07:49.remember where they stood during the Second World War on Germany. This is

:07:50. > :07:53.indicative of what we are going to see every single day in the weeks

:07:54. > :08:01.running up to the referendum, because it will be skier stories and

:08:02. > :08:05.it'll be pandering to the worst jingoism and xenophobic,

:08:06. > :08:09.anti-German, anti-French staff. The paper as well, I don't know what

:08:10. > :08:14.your papers will say but the Daily Mail and the express, you know where

:08:15. > :08:17.they will start. The papers we do have have a serious responsibility

:08:18. > :08:23.and it is not being carried out very well and tonight's papers. They

:08:24. > :08:27.should be informing and it is really important that people know the

:08:28. > :08:31.issues, the migration issue is fairly straightforward, stay in

:08:32. > :08:36.Europe, and migrants will come into the country and leave Europe and we

:08:37. > :08:39.can control our borders. The full referendum doesn't depend on what

:08:40. > :08:45.the papers will say, they will watch television as well... It is

:08:46. > :08:49.something the media and certainly the campaigns should think about. At

:08:50. > :08:53.the moment they are talking about tiny little less use if everybody

:08:54. > :08:57.knows the rest, and what you really need to do is go right back to

:08:58. > :08:59.basics and say this is exactly how it works. And that is what you have

:09:00. > :09:22.told your editor? You think we can get everybody to do balanced

:09:23. > :09:25.reporting in the papers, on television... Don't expect balance

:09:26. > :09:28.but I think it is important we try as best we can to explain exactly

:09:29. > :09:30.what it means to you and me and ordered many people. We have massive

:09:31. > :09:32.responsibility. One of the differences is the votes all code is

:09:33. > :09:34.equal. If you are in a general election would only marginal

:09:35. > :09:38.constituencies have high-value votes, here, everyone has the same

:09:39. > :09:44.power with their vote. Let's go this place balanced piece on the front

:09:45. > :09:48.page. The EU declaring war on drivers. It is probably true, why

:09:49. > :09:52.would you say that is not responsible reporting? To be fair,

:09:53. > :10:00.we have only got the first page so we cannot read the rest, but it is

:10:01. > :10:06.just another skier story. This is what gets people won't up? I do

:10:07. > :10:10.think historically, the pro-Europeans said, the European

:10:11. > :10:15.Commission and those of us who think it is a good idea have been

:10:16. > :10:19.incredibly bad at putting the argument because people will come

:10:20. > :10:24.out with these urban myths about cucumbers having to be a certain

:10:25. > :10:28.straightness, fishermen having to wear helmets and motorists having to

:10:29. > :10:33.pay to drive into town centres because of EU guidelines. Actually,

:10:34. > :10:36.they are EU guidelines we have signed up to about climate change

:10:37. > :10:42.and global warming and it is about the contents of things, and I do

:10:43. > :10:47.think this stuff, it just goes on to that sort of Little Britain

:10:48. > :10:51.mentality. It is not sensible and it is not a good debate and as Nigel

:10:52. > :10:56.said there is a responsibility and as so often happens it will fall to

:10:57. > :11:01.broadcasters who always do a better job because of the much stricter

:11:02. > :11:03.rules on impartiality. Let's move on to the Sunday Times and another EU

:11:04. > :11:19.story and another warning. Brexit danger to UK tourists. The

:11:20. > :11:25.Sunday Times would seem to want Britain in and they story is based

:11:26. > :11:30.on a couple of tour operators and what they are saying is that you

:11:31. > :11:34.will lose your cheap flights, I can't quite see how this works

:11:35. > :11:37.through, and the other is that planes will not be as safe, we won't

:11:38. > :11:40.be as well protected against terrorism and the argument seems to

:11:41. > :11:47.be because we shared intelligence with Europe. This story is in the

:11:48. > :11:52.same category as others from the other site, but the chances of

:11:53. > :11:56.leading Europe and not sharing intelligence with European partners

:11:57. > :12:01.just seems an absolute nonsense. We all have an interest in that

:12:02. > :12:05.regardless of anything. So again we have come out with leaping on a

:12:06. > :12:12.small debt and making a skier out of it. You call it a skier story but

:12:13. > :12:17.when you lead on, the Times goes on to explain where this is coming from

:12:18. > :12:21.and it is about airport charges and surcharges that EU member countries

:12:22. > :12:27.don't have to pay as much on. It is going to possibly cost us more. It's

:12:28. > :12:33.not going to cost very much but do we think it is hugely important? It

:12:34. > :12:36.might be very important! It is important and that comes back to

:12:37. > :12:40.what you were saying earlier that people will vote for what matters to

:12:41. > :12:44.them. If it matters to you that you can get cheap flights and to you

:12:45. > :12:56.that you think that in our lifetime... I'm very impartial! If

:12:57. > :12:59.all three of us are now able to fly for the relatively reasonable amount

:13:00. > :13:04.of money to places that were behind the Iron Curtain when we won a lot

:13:05. > :13:08.younger. We have got months to talk about that, let's move on. Can I

:13:09. > :13:16.just say that had within this is Michael Dobbs, couldn't possibly

:13:17. > :13:20.comment, he has dismissed David Cameron's renegotiation as the most

:13:21. > :13:26.that barely squeaks, let alone roars. Glad you got that end. Let's

:13:27. > :13:32.move on to the Telegraph. This sounds fantastic if true, coming

:13:33. > :13:36.soon, the ten minute home saliva test for cancer. You have to be

:13:37. > :13:40.careful with cancer stories. This is certainly interesting and our paper

:13:41. > :13:43.put it on the front page tonight because it is a fascinating story.

:13:44. > :13:48.Broadly they seem to have developed a live test then America and it

:13:49. > :13:54.means you don't have to go through the pain of biopsy. If the test

:13:55. > :13:59.works and it will cost 1520 you can get it done in ten minutes and at

:14:00. > :14:04.the moment it is for lung cancer but could be for other cancers as well.

:14:05. > :14:10.Basically it detects the cancer DNA you might have. You have to do it

:14:11. > :14:14.yourself at home? You can go to a dentist or a doctor and might even

:14:15. > :14:17.be a will to get to the chemist. It could be quite scary to do it on

:14:18. > :14:24.your own. This is about cancer spread. It is for monitoring cancer.

:14:25. > :14:29.The actual test will see if you have got it without the need for a

:14:30. > :14:35.biopsy. That is the important thing, biopsies are terribly painful. They

:14:36. > :14:42.do hope and things to come it could be possible to detect multiple

:14:43. > :14:48.cancers at the same time. Let's quickly get a noise reducing gadget

:14:49. > :14:53.for bills. This is Saint Mary East Church in Ashwell where the bells

:14:54. > :14:57.rang every quarter well as well is only our and complaints from some

:14:58. > :15:03.villagers suspected to be newcomers, and I would imagine it is probably

:15:04. > :15:08.true, the bells were stifled only on the hour, but now a gadget has been

:15:09. > :15:13.introduced three years later, so the bells will carry on ringing but not

:15:14. > :15:20.be quite so noisy. We had a more gadget on bells near where I left,

:15:21. > :15:26.and then somebody bought a cockerel! It is quite noisy in the country! We

:15:27. > :15:30.will do this again at 11:30pm but for now, stay with us, coming up,

:15:31. > :15:41.the reporters.