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:00:16. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

:00:19. > :00:23.With me are the political commentator

:00:24. > :00:29.Jo Phillips and the Political Editor of the Sunday People, Nigel Nelson.

:00:30. > :00:32.According to the Sunday Times the boss of EasyJet has warned that

:00:33. > :00:37.cheap flights are at risk if the UK leaves the European Union.

:00:38. > :00:41.Ahead of the EU referendum the Mail on Sunday says a senior aide to

:00:42. > :00:45.Angela Merkel claims the UK cannot survive on its own.

:00:46. > :00:47."Public faith in Cameron drops" is the Independent

:00:48. > :00:50.on Sunday's headline, with a new poll claiming 6 out of 10

:00:51. > :00:54.expect the PM not to secure good deal in Brussels talks this week.

:00:55. > :00:57.The Telegraph claims the government could soon fund new onshore wind

:00:58. > :01:14.Should we start with the Observer? It is just in. There is a lot of EU,

:01:15. > :01:20.and this paper is focusing on Jeremy Corbyn. It is interesting, another

:01:21. > :01:25.battle with his own party. Apparently what Jeremy Corbyn is

:01:26. > :01:30.going to do is before David Cameron goes off to negotiate in Europe, he

:01:31. > :01:36.is going to make a big speech and he is going to say that European

:01:37. > :01:40.migration is a good thing, but that is what we should be encouraging,

:01:41. > :01:46.that we shouldn't be discriminating against Eastern Europeans. Well...

:01:47. > :01:51.It won't cut very much ice with people who are not very keen on

:01:52. > :02:02.migration. This is the weakest card of it in campaigners. 50,000 people

:02:03. > :02:06.who come from abroad and keep the NHS going, those other positives.

:02:07. > :02:09.The question is the timing, whether it is a clever idea to be doing it

:02:10. > :02:15.this week, maybe further down the road. Do you agree? It is fine to

:02:16. > :02:19.Jeremy Corbyn to be doing it because he wants to make some kind of

:02:20. > :02:23.statement, but it is David Cameron's worst nightmare, because

:02:24. > :02:28.this will just fuel the people who feel that this whole debate is now

:02:29. > :02:33.focusing on migration and borders, and free movement of people and the

:02:34. > :02:38.refugee crisis that is going on. This will now paint a picture that

:02:39. > :02:42.you have a Labour Party that wants a free for all, because that is how it

:02:43. > :02:55.will be portrayed, because it doesn't help it in campaign --be in

:02:56. > :03:00.campaign. There have been countless debates, with many people agree with

:03:01. > :03:08.Jeremy Corbyn, a lot of people thinking we can't bring any more

:03:09. > :03:15.migrants, and people who think we should welcome them. Migration is

:03:16. > :03:21.probably the most contentious issue with in this whole thing and I think

:03:22. > :03:27.the difficulty comes down to... It is not about racism, it is about

:03:28. > :03:32.somebody who either imagines that his job has been taken by an Eastern

:03:33. > :03:37.European worker. It is that kind of problem. My argument would be that

:03:38. > :03:42.the intervention has to come in at some point, but not quite yet. It is

:03:43. > :03:47.not just about the migrant crisis, let's go to the Independent on

:03:48. > :03:55.Sunday. They have gone to a poll. This is before a proper debate, and

:03:56. > :04:00.its headline... Nearly half the voters say that the UK would have

:04:01. > :04:08.more control of borders outside the EU. Quite revealing poll about the

:04:09. > :04:14.state of play now in the referendum. As far as the trouble with borders,

:04:15. > :04:18.that is quite clear. If we are out of the EU we will be able to control

:04:19. > :04:22.our board is much better because EU migrants won't be able to come in as

:04:23. > :04:28.a right as they do at the moment. That is sort of stating the obvious.

:04:29. > :04:32.People seem to have no faith in David Cameron's ability to

:04:33. > :04:35.renegotiate the deal this week, with six out of ten saying he won't come

:04:36. > :04:40.back with anything. I'm not sure it all means a great deal. I don't

:04:41. > :04:45.think people know what he is going to negotiate anyway. It is one of

:04:46. > :04:48.those things were actually it is very hard to ask people what they

:04:49. > :04:53.think about something when it is not clear what is being negotiated. That

:04:54. > :05:01.won't be the question we will be asked when the referendum happens.

:05:02. > :05:06.Interestingly, if 58% of people say David Cameron will get a bad deal,

:05:07. > :05:10.but then you are almost evenly split on people saying that the economy is

:05:11. > :05:17.better being in the EU or out of it. Clearly there is a muddle and

:05:18. > :05:22.confusion, but there is some comfort that the government in this that

:05:23. > :05:26.there is still a 14 point lead over Labour. It is just that David

:05:27. > :05:33.Cameron's personal rating has fallen considerably. It is an interesting

:05:34. > :05:36.poll but it is way ahead of when the argument has been started proper,

:05:37. > :05:42.but the argument has of course already started in some ways. Let's

:05:43. > :05:55.have a look at the Mail on Sunday. This is an argument between British

:05:56. > :06:02.MP Bill Cash, and a German MP, who is saying that if we leave, Europe

:06:03. > :06:16.will impose crippling trade tariffs on Britain. Maybe, maybe not. I

:06:17. > :06:23.think it is unlikely. I think if Europe would pull in its horns and

:06:24. > :06:29.say we want to keep outsiders out... This is just a row between

:06:30. > :06:35.two MPs. It is not the position of Germany, is it? I don't think so.

:06:36. > :06:41.You would think it looking at that front page. I don't think he is part

:06:42. > :06:46.of Germany's diplomatic corps. He has form attacking David Cameron, he

:06:47. > :06:59.accused him of trying to black out the EU. He then mocked the

:07:00. > :07:03.flip-flopping MP. In 2014 he said he would get a bloody nose if he curbed

:07:04. > :07:10.immigration without EU permission. This is a three page story based on

:07:11. > :07:18.argument between two people that frankly are not hugely important. We

:07:19. > :07:22.haven't even got started yet! There are some other stories knocking

:07:23. > :07:27.around. We had to read this one carefully, the Sunday Times. The

:07:28. > :07:33.headline, Osborne profits as firm pays no corporation tax. This is an

:07:34. > :07:38.interesting story. Only because I think it is again, and we often say

:07:39. > :07:42.this on this programme, quite often the headlines they're very little

:07:43. > :07:49.resemblance or relationship to the actual story. Nigel and I both know

:07:50. > :07:53.that that is the Saabs, not the person writing the story, quite

:07:54. > :07:57.often. You can't say that because you have to go to work tomorrow.

:07:58. > :08:08.This is a story about the Chancellor George Osborne who has shared in the

:08:09. > :08:15.dividend payment in the company that his family owns. The company has not

:08:16. > :08:18.paid any UK corporation tax for the last seven years. If you read it all

:08:19. > :08:21.the way through, what you will discover is that company records

:08:22. > :08:32.show that the Chancellor holds less than 1% shares in this company and

:08:33. > :08:38.he got a dividend of about ?1200. The idea that this is some sort of

:08:39. > :08:42.walloping great windfall from a company that hasn't paid corporation

:08:43. > :08:46.tax because it hasn't registered any profits, I would expect a bit better

:08:47. > :08:51.of the Sunday Times. But it is a story that pushes all the right

:08:52. > :08:58.buttons. It got you reading the whole lot, didn't it? That headline!

:08:59. > :09:02.That is my argument. It is so easy, that every story we look at every

:09:03. > :09:07.time we do this, and everytime anyone else does it, you look at the

:09:08. > :09:12.headline, you see them on the television, and actually, is that

:09:13. > :09:17.actually the story? We are going to stick with the Sunday Times. Another

:09:18. > :09:25.interesting story, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe is to face the widower of

:09:26. > :09:41.Lord Britain. There have been long campaigns for him to apologise --

:09:42. > :09:46.the widow. Yes, this is about the investigation into her husband. If

:09:47. > :09:50.you are going to investigate crimes like this, then you have to do the

:09:51. > :09:55.whole thing properly. On the basis of that, if you have evidence that

:09:56. > :10:00.you believe in, do you then apologise for collecting that

:10:01. > :10:03.evidence after the event? Even if you haven't got evidence, there has

:10:04. > :10:07.or has been an argument that it is really important for the them to be

:10:08. > :10:10.believed. That is the other danger. How many other victims won't come

:10:11. > :10:17.forward because of what has happened? It is very difficult, that

:10:18. > :10:21.anybody who is innocent of a crime like this, it is appalling that they

:10:22. > :10:24.find themselves in the public eye and in the middle of a police

:10:25. > :10:29.investigation. But does that mean that the police shouldn't

:10:30. > :10:33.investigate? Could they investigate without the person being named? In

:10:34. > :10:37.that case they're going to a different area about whether or not

:10:38. > :10:42.we name people before they end up in court, and why then should a sex

:10:43. > :10:46.crime be particular? If you were a police officer dishonesty would be

:10:47. > :10:52.quite serious. Once you start going through the different grades of

:10:53. > :10:56.crime you could argue that no one should be named until the trial.

:10:57. > :10:59.Police have agreed that they won't allow MPs to be named if they are

:11:00. > :11:04.arrested, unless it is in connection with something they have done in

:11:05. > :11:07.office. The other danger with not naming people is that part of the

:11:08. > :11:12.justice system is that justice is seen to be done. If you have a trial

:11:13. > :11:18.where the defendant is anonymous, it won't be seen to be done. I think in

:11:19. > :11:24.this particular case, they are damned if they do and damned if they

:11:25. > :11:31.don't, for the reasons you have just said. They paraded this alleged

:11:32. > :11:34.victim, called Nick, who had apparently come forward with this

:11:35. > :11:40.credible evidence. They didn't have to make that public, actually. They

:11:41. > :11:46.could have arrested or investigated... Police always

:11:47. > :11:51.maintained that they don't release the names of suspects. We are

:11:52. > :11:56.journalists, we can draw our own conclusions. This comes down to the

:11:57. > :12:02.fact that Lord Britain was not told that there wouldn't be any charges

:12:03. > :12:07.before he died -- Leon Brittan. Do you believe this is a debate that is

:12:08. > :12:14.needed? Yes, I do. There is a review... It is very difficult for

:12:15. > :12:19.them. It is very difficult for anybody, but the sooner justice

:12:20. > :12:26.Cotes Art can get on with the proper enquiry. That is the key to it. What

:12:27. > :12:29.seems to have happened is that what we do know is that there were

:12:30. > :12:33.paedophile rings, there was an establishment cover-up. What we

:12:34. > :12:36.don't know if the extent of it, and quite clearly certain people who

:12:37. > :12:40.have been named will have imparted that. We only have a couple of

:12:41. > :12:42.minutes left. A couple of interesting stories on the front

:12:43. > :12:50.page of the Sunday Telegraph tomorrow. Talk us through this home

:12:51. > :12:53.saliva test for cancer. This is not one of the stories you would

:12:54. > :13:00.normally see on the front page of the Express. This seems to be quite

:13:01. > :13:06.sensible. The University of California have done a lot of

:13:07. > :13:10.research saying that tumour DNA is in bodily fluids like saliva, so it

:13:11. > :13:14.would in fact give you the ability to have a liquid biopsy, instead of

:13:15. > :13:19.going through the often traumatic and painful and uncomfortable

:13:20. > :13:24.surgical procedure. This is 100% accurate. If you stop and think

:13:25. > :13:28.about it, given that you can get DNA from a tiny bit of saliva, it makes

:13:29. > :13:32.sense that you would be able to do this. But this will have a huge

:13:33. > :13:40.impact on people. It can be carried out at home, by a dentist, Hugh who

:13:41. > :13:43.are hugely good at looking for cancers. You might not want to do

:13:44. > :13:50.it, but you might be worried about the spread of it. In alternative to

:13:51. > :13:54.a biopsy you would definitely want to do it, and if it means you don't

:13:55. > :13:59.have to have a biopsy. In future they are saying it could be for

:14:00. > :14:05.multiple tests. I don't know if I would like to do that. But if it

:14:06. > :14:09.makes somebody do it rather than... Early diagnosis is so important with

:14:10. > :14:13.cancer. We just had time to talk about Chris Grayling and Michael

:14:14. > :14:21.Gove. The Valentine couple of the night. This is the present justice

:14:22. > :14:24.secretary saying he agrees with the previous justice secretary, Chris

:14:25. > :14:32.Grayling, and they have written a joint letter together saying that

:14:33. > :14:36.they have kissed and made up. It is tough love. It takes us back to the

:14:37. > :14:42.EU a bit, because Chris Grayling has been widely tipped to run the Grexit

:14:43. > :14:49.campaign. And we still don't quite know how Michael Gove will go. It

:14:50. > :14:57.may well be that this new friendship... At the moment Michael

:14:58. > :15:09.Gove seems to be veering towards Brexit as well. Thank you both,

:15:10. > :15:15.always a pleasure. More headlines at the top of the hour. Next, film

:15:16. > :15:20.review. -- The Film Review.