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:00:00. > :00:00.Europa League matches, a flat performance from English teams and a

:00:00. > :00:00.bad night again for Louis Van Gaal. That is in Sportsday in 15 minutes

:00:00. > :00:23.after the papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

:00:24. > :00:28.at what the papers will bring us tomorrow morning. With me journalist

:00:29. > :00:32.Henry Bonsu and former Trade Minister Lord Digby Jones. Welcome,

:00:33. > :00:37.with you both back together I think this may be why Clive took the

:00:38. > :00:45.evening off! It could be a coincidence. Just before we get

:00:46. > :00:50.going with you, let's look at what the papers are saying. We will start

:00:51. > :00:56.with the metro, the front page, what do you make of this, Digby Jones? I

:00:57. > :01:01.am not surprised the Prime Minister, the democratically elected leader of

:01:02. > :01:08.a nation, says he will battle for his country. That is, what wouldn't

:01:09. > :01:13.you expect? Of course, in a way, it is symptomatic to my view of why

:01:14. > :01:16.this is coming off the wrong base. I believe in a reformed Europe but it

:01:17. > :01:21.is not a reformed Europe in my view that should be particularly for

:01:22. > :01:27.Britain, but for Europe. As an unemployed kid in Greece, 21 years

:01:28. > :01:33.old, who hadn't worked with no prospect of employment, what we have

:01:34. > :01:39.to do is get Europe, instead of marching violently towards 1970, get

:01:40. > :01:46.it on the page of the 21st-century. This is a sure's century, Britain on

:01:47. > :01:52.the 19th, America run the 20th, Asia will run the 21st. 520 million

:01:53. > :01:55.people living in peace, which is a fabulous achievement, having taken

:01:56. > :02:00.Eastern Europe out of the Soviet bloc without tyranny is a big

:02:01. > :02:06.achievement, a huge achievement. Now we are condemning these people to,

:02:07. > :02:11.frankly, a pretty cold life, simply because we are trying to agree to

:02:12. > :02:16.work to a set of rules set in 1957 at a different time for a different

:02:17. > :02:19.world. I don't blame the Prime Minister for saying he is battling

:02:20. > :02:26.for Britain, that is what you do when you lead a country. In my view

:02:27. > :02:33.he has the wrong precedence. Digby is in danger of challenging Francois

:02:34. > :02:38.Hollande in saying this is about the whole EU. Jeremy Corbyn is also...

:02:39. > :02:42.He is thinking about the most downtrodden, oppressed people of

:02:43. > :02:48.Europe, not just Britain in splendid isolation. The metro has a positive

:02:49. > :02:53.spin talking about Cameron and the Battle for Britain, presenting him

:02:54. > :03:02.as an eminent Churchill Ian or challenging Margaret Thatcher. This

:03:03. > :03:06.is the antidote to thin gruel from Rees Mogg. He is of course

:03:07. > :03:10.sceptical. If you look at what the papers are saying about the

:03:11. > :03:13.discussion so far it isn't going the Prime minister's wait, you will need

:03:14. > :03:15.all three of those shirts because going down to the wire it will be

:03:16. > :03:18.long haul. Quite a lot of Eastern long haul. Quite a lot of Eastern

:03:19. > :03:25.European countries don't want to give him what he wants. The Guardian

:03:26. > :03:29.picks up on part of this point, Digby. You will have seen this from

:03:30. > :03:36.the inside us Trade Minister in Gordon Brown's government. The

:03:37. > :03:41.Guardian has been briefed by other EU leaders, he has one chance, if

:03:42. > :03:46.you can't get a deal tomorrow, forget it. At that level, there is

:03:47. > :03:50.without doubt, the word on the street, that the best way of dealing

:03:51. > :03:54.with it get a better deal is come back with not a lot, referendum

:03:55. > :03:59.throws it out, then Brussels does what it did with the French, Dutch

:04:00. > :04:06.and Irish referendums, which is to vote again and again and again till

:04:07. > :04:10.you get it right, because Brussels doesn't understand democracy. That

:04:11. > :04:14.is the chat on the street and they are trying to kill that by saying

:04:15. > :04:22.this is a once-in-a-lifetime occasion. Is it brinkmanship? For

:04:23. > :04:27.sure. My concern is, I am not at all certain that the leaders of Europe,

:04:28. > :04:32.and they include Cameron in this, are on the right page of this. I

:04:33. > :04:36.will give you good example, one of the businesses I chair, we cannot

:04:37. > :04:40.get enough skilled engineers, and we have job offers out to Indians from

:04:41. > :04:45.Bangalore, cannot get the movies. They would come and earn good money,

:04:46. > :04:57.I am not talking of Lope -- cannot get them of these, they pay tax,

:04:58. > :04:59.generate profits, we would pay more corporation tax and build schools

:05:00. > :05:02.and hospitals, we cannot get the Visa because the British government

:05:03. > :05:04.says they are not coming in because they are cutting down on

:05:05. > :05:07.immigration. Everyday we have five or six Romanians who cannot speaking

:05:08. > :05:12.wish knocking on the door for a job. That doesn't help global

:05:13. > :05:17.competitiveness, it doesn't help Britain becoming more productive,

:05:18. > :05:22.and at the end of the day it doesn't help the Romanian cyber. This is the

:05:23. > :05:28.Farage- Carswell arguments. Don't personalise it. He wants more of

:05:29. > :05:31.Commonwealth. If those remaining staff killed engineers I would have

:05:32. > :05:38.them, it is not about them being in Europe but the fact that we are not

:05:39. > :05:41.getting Europe globally competitive. For Francois Hollande to dance on

:05:42. > :05:46.the pinheads of whether Cameron will or will not get a brink Manship

:05:47. > :05:50.deal, frankly, they all deserve to wake up and smell the coffee and

:05:51. > :05:56.understand the real competitiveness argument. I am told they will wake

:05:57. > :06:00.up and smell bacon and eggs because we are told they will have an Ingush

:06:01. > :06:06.breakfast. Is that the confession we will get, do you think? I think what

:06:07. > :06:11.Francois Hollande is trying to do is talk tough, because of course he is

:06:12. > :06:15.standing for election next year, he doesn't want to roll over and give

:06:16. > :06:18.Cameron what he wants. But Angela Merkel, who is still the most

:06:19. > :06:22.powerful leader in Europe even though she is having problems with

:06:23. > :06:26.the German immigration crisis, wants to do everything she can short of

:06:27. > :06:36.rolling back free movement of people to help Cameron because the other

:06:37. > :06:39.leaders recognise the new would be poorer without Britain's. So do you

:06:40. > :06:43.think we will get some kind of deal? I think so, if not they will go --

:06:44. > :06:46.at it again next month. The common agricultural policy, created as a

:06:47. > :06:55.time when the world was different. We have condemned Greece to

:06:56. > :06:59.saying... Base your economy on exporting olives and importing cars

:07:00. > :07:03.and don't go bust. It is beyond me and you have Francois Hollande

:07:04. > :07:08.saying you cannot touch the common agricultural policy, this is sacred

:07:09. > :07:16.to the French way of life. It is bonkers. Let's stay with economics.

:07:17. > :07:26.It is economics, they take a lot of tax office! I stand corrected, but

:07:27. > :07:29.this is on the front of the Daily Telegraph, the call from FTSE 100

:07:30. > :07:37.chief is saying yes to Europe. These are some of your old mates! What?!

:07:38. > :07:45.You are in very personalising form tonight! We are talking about our

:07:46. > :07:47.biggest companies, eight of them, and those who run them saying they

:07:48. > :07:53.want to see Britain remaining in Europe, they think it will be good

:07:54. > :07:57.for business. Although they haven't put their names in any letter or

:07:58. > :08:02.anything the Telegraph can accurately quote, it understands

:08:03. > :08:08.from sources unknown that they will be in favour of Britons staying in

:08:09. > :08:11.Europe. If you were a small business person in Yorkshire, Birmingham

:08:12. > :08:16.Cardiff and read that, you would say you were not surprised. All these

:08:17. > :08:20.big companies have 80 or 90 advisers, lobbyists, in Brussels,

:08:21. > :08:25.and they fashion the regulatory framework of the EU to suit

:08:26. > :08:29.themselves. That is what they do. Therefore of course a big company

:08:30. > :08:33.wants to stay in because they have the framework that suits big

:08:34. > :08:41.business, and at the end of the day they will work with that. As a small

:08:42. > :08:46.business in Marbella, in Stockholm, it is hell on earth because you are

:08:47. > :08:49.trying to get by with the sales prevention team sitting in Brussels

:08:50. > :08:53.saying they will mess up your life, mess up the way you can create

:08:54. > :08:58.wealth and an extra job, whereas China must think it is Christmas

:08:59. > :09:03.Day. I am not personalising this but you are a great believer in trickle

:09:04. > :09:07.down so that person in Greece or Grimsby or wherever is working

:09:08. > :09:11.through the supply chain in the end towards that big business, so it is

:09:12. > :09:15.successful and will help that person at the bottom. As long as this is

:09:16. > :09:20.Fortress Europe, what we are doing is saying, the rest of the world

:09:21. > :09:24.doesn't matter, we will just trade with ourselves. There are 8 billion

:09:25. > :09:28.people on this planet and the other seven and a half billion do not give

:09:29. > :09:33.a dam, and they are getting on with their lives. They are creating

:09:34. > :09:42.wealth for themselves. That seems a good point on the frankly my dear I

:09:43. > :09:45.don't give a dam argument! Clark Gable, 1938! To move away from

:09:46. > :09:53.Europe for now because we will come in our next review. Everyday for the

:09:54. > :09:59.next three months! Let's stay with the Telegraph, wonderful photograph

:10:00. > :10:04.of Pope Francis. He looks like he is about to take off! Let's hope he

:10:05. > :10:08.doesn't drop back on the other side into the United States because he

:10:09. > :10:16.may face the wrath of Donald Trump. He may because he is quoted offering

:10:17. > :10:22.Donald Trump not a Christian. Not Christian, not not A Christian. He

:10:23. > :10:27.says his principles are wrong. He didn't mentioned him by name but

:10:28. > :10:32.said if you want a was instead of bridges, love your neighbour, which

:10:33. > :10:38.is one of the principles, you cannot be Christian. Donald Trump is

:10:39. > :10:42.furious because although he is not known for living his life according

:10:43. > :10:49.to those principles he says he is a proud presbyteries in. This is a

:10:50. > :10:52.paper review. It is nearly over, be quick. Let's compare the Telegraph

:10:53. > :10:56.with the International New York Times. I would think the Telegraph

:10:57. > :11:03.readership don't read the New York Times but in the Daily Telegraph he

:11:04. > :11:08.is quoted as saying, Donald Trump "Not a Christian". The New York

:11:09. > :11:13.Times said he said it is "Not Christian." You are right, the

:11:14. > :11:16.difference is enormous, so if you read the Telegraph you think you

:11:17. > :11:21.said Donald Trump is not a Christian, in New York it is not

:11:22. > :11:25.Christian. You would know if you had watched the paper review! We will be

:11:26. > :11:30.back in an hour, Digby and Henry, thank you, we will be back at 1130

:11:31. > :11:40.the M4 another look at the papers. Now it is time for Sportsday.

:11:41. > :11:48.This is Sportsday from the BBC Sport Centre.