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:00:00. > :00:00.bring forward further proposals we can take country unilaterally to

:00:00. > :00:18.strengthen the sovereignty of Britain's great institutions.

:00:19. > :00:21.Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the

:00:22. > :00:24.papers will be bringing us tomorrow. Slightly later than usual tonight

:00:25. > :00:33.And the fact that the papers have been changing their front pages,

:00:34. > :00:35.some of them as we speak. We now have a selection of what will be on

:00:36. > :00:37.the news stands tomorrow. With me are the Times columnist

:00:38. > :00:40.Jenni Russell, and the media commentator for Forbes.com,

:00:41. > :00:51.Neil Midgley. We'll start with the Times. David

:00:52. > :00:54.Cameron. Ahead on the EU vote. How would you characterise the mood on

:00:55. > :01:00.Downing Street? I think the mood is jubilant. It looked as though it was

:01:01. > :01:04.falling away from them. They were devastated by the reaction to

:01:05. > :01:08.Cameron's initial deal because almost every single newspaper front

:01:09. > :01:12.page criticised it. They are extremely downcast and taking it

:01:13. > :01:19.back. Another thing they have a deal which has headlines they can sell to

:01:20. > :01:24.the country, special status in Europe, we don't have to be part of

:01:25. > :01:28.what we don't want, protection for the city of London, we can't be

:01:29. > :01:31.bullied by the rest of Europe, and we don't have to be part of ever

:01:32. > :01:36.closer union. I think they are feeling confident that most of the

:01:37. > :01:39.population don't care about the details, they think the Prime

:01:40. > :01:51.Minister has given us a Britain they want. I imagine they will have a

:01:52. > :01:57.better weekend then if David Cameron had caved in Brussels tonight. Or is

:01:58. > :02:02.everyone is refused to cave. It seems we don't know the detail. It

:02:03. > :02:06.seems Cameron effectively put his foot down at teatime tonight and

:02:07. > :02:13.said no, I will not give any more. Presumably doing that calculation

:02:14. > :02:18.that if you came back with a terrible deal and indeed a deal that

:02:19. > :02:22.was much watered-down from the draft that had been circulated a couple of

:02:23. > :02:26.weeks ago, he would not have been able to sell it to his friends in

:02:27. > :02:33.the Cabinet let alone the Eurosceptics in the Cabinet, let

:02:34. > :02:37.alone the rest of the country. If we look at the FT weekend, which hangs

:02:38. > :02:41.around for two days, so they have to think more strategically, they say

:02:42. > :02:46.Cameron wins Brussels reforms. It will different to the other

:02:47. > :02:51.countries, and Donald Tusk, if you do the initiation on their behalf.

:02:52. > :02:55.People seem to have got a deal they can live with. Even the Eastern

:02:56. > :03:00.European countries who did not want any kind of welfare reforms. By the

:03:01. > :03:10.way, nobody understands what the welfare reforms are. I think I sort

:03:11. > :03:14.of do. Poland's Europe Minister was twitching before we came on air

:03:15. > :03:17.there was something about if people have less than four years just

:03:18. > :03:21.before the end of the seven-year break, we still don't know what

:03:22. > :03:29.happens to them. In the great scheme of things, Jenni was talking about

:03:30. > :03:37.these yes we can phrases David Cameron is using. It is the phrases

:03:38. > :03:40.that counts. We now have a special relationship, we are the special

:03:41. > :03:46.country. We will have special status in Europe. If only Jose Mourinho,

:03:47. > :03:54.the special one, was British. It is meaningless. Even if Cameron had got

:03:55. > :03:59.rid of all of the welfare payments to EU migrants, which he hasn't,

:04:00. > :04:04.only a very small portion of them, that is about ?500 million a year

:04:05. > :04:15.out of an overall government spending of ?700 billion. You are

:04:16. > :04:19.talking about half of 1000th. I probably got a decimal point wrong

:04:20. > :04:29.there, but for every ?1000 to pay in tax, you might get alb. -- account

:04:30. > :04:36.back. I don't think those sorts of changes make any practical

:04:37. > :04:41.difference at all. The whole thing was about symbolism. It is about

:04:42. > :04:44.people feeling they don't want to be drawn closer to Europe, and it is a

:04:45. > :04:48.genuine achievement that we are now accepted from being part of ever

:04:49. > :04:55.closer union. Which is being what the European Union has always been

:04:56. > :04:59.about. Look at the Independent. The EU deal is done is the headline. We

:05:00. > :05:04.then have above it a big shout to do with the refugee crisis, because

:05:05. > :05:08.migration is the other thing they are talking about, is concerned that

:05:09. > :05:12.maybe Greece might actually be excluded from the Schengen area as

:05:13. > :05:17.it was felt to be doing enough to stop illegal migrants. There are big

:05:18. > :05:20.it issues that this deal doesn't address, and some of the new

:05:21. > :05:22.sceptics have suggested that might be what the campaign ends up being

:05:23. > :05:36.about. Nobody has any idea how to deal with

:05:37. > :05:39.the people pouring into Europe. Those remaining in Europe say we

:05:40. > :05:44.much more at risk of migrants coming to Britain if we leave Europe. At

:05:45. > :05:49.the moment we've got the French policing the French ports. Cameron

:05:50. > :05:54.is perfectly right when he says that if we left the EU, and the French

:05:55. > :05:58.thought they would no longer guard the Borders for you, then we would

:05:59. > :06:02.have masses of people in little boats coming across the Channel,

:06:03. > :06:12.just as they are now across the Mediterranean, to try to land in

:06:13. > :06:19.Britain. I am far from an outer. I am out but not an outer. What the

:06:20. > :06:26.distinction? Let's not go into that. The French thing with the border, is

:06:27. > :06:29.a a bilateral agreement? It is. They might think if you don't want to be

:06:30. > :06:35.part of our club and co-operate with us, why should we do things with

:06:36. > :06:39.you. You might be right about that but the migration we can't stop at

:06:40. > :06:45.the moment we could at least have some control over. That is distinct

:06:46. > :06:51.from the huge number of migrants who are now entering Europe... This is

:06:52. > :06:53.where we get interesting tomorrow, how the campaign starts to open up

:06:54. > :07:02.beyond the terms of the renegotiation. And what other areas

:07:03. > :07:06.will emerge. David Davis, who was David Cameron's challenger or co-

:07:07. > :07:12.candidate for the leadership back in 2005, was out and about tonight. He

:07:13. > :07:18.is an outer. He was saying that none of these things make any

:07:19. > :07:22.difference, in that Cameron's initial bid as he went around his

:07:23. > :07:25.European Tour was far too low a Dias had to come further down from that

:07:26. > :07:31.and we've ended up with the crumbs from the table. Once the shouting

:07:32. > :07:36.has died there might still be a warm feeling in Downing Street, that

:07:37. > :07:44.they've landed a deal which they were able to sell on the night, even

:07:45. > :07:50.if the last gets tarnished in the coming days. -- the gloss gets

:07:51. > :07:53.tarnished. But whether this deal will make any difference to the gut

:07:54. > :07:58.instinct of the British voter remains very much to be seen. I

:07:59. > :08:06.agree. That's the key point. All of this argument has been beside the

:08:07. > :08:09.point. The discussion has to be about the questions regarding where

:08:10. > :08:15.we see ourselves in the world. I we better off as an isolated island,

:08:16. > :08:21.not in alliance with 27 allies? -- are we better. Possibly losing

:08:22. > :08:29.Scotland. Do we want to make our own little deals? Or do we want... We

:08:30. > :08:33.will be a lot smaller if we lose Scotland. We can't trade freely with

:08:34. > :08:42.Europe. A lot of companies would want to stay here... But there's no

:08:43. > :08:44.danger of that, is there? If you want to retain free trade with

:08:45. > :08:49.Europe then we have to retain the free movement of people. It had just

:08:50. > :08:52.the same question about European migrants coming into Britain as we

:08:53. > :08:57.have had now. The question has to be whether we feel more safe and secure

:08:58. > :09:00.and longer as part of the group of countries who have fundamentally

:09:01. > :09:06.similar values, who can act together against Russia, ISIS and climate

:09:07. > :09:11.change, or not. Moving onto the Telegraph front page. They decided

:09:12. > :09:17.they would commit themselves to there being a deal. This came before

:09:18. > :09:21.the deal was done. Not the most flattering picture of David Cameron.

:09:22. > :09:28.And not the most encouraging headline. They talk about David

:09:29. > :09:36.Cameron looking very tired, as he has all day. Michael talking about

:09:37. > :09:44.Cameron's eyes bulging, saying he looked like a delirious snail, which

:09:45. > :09:47.is perhaps a little unkind. I've never looked at a delirious snail

:09:48. > :09:56.before! When you look at the high resolution of poorer Cameron's tired

:09:57. > :10:03.face... Can I point out that if he had arrived looking freshfaced and

:10:04. > :10:09.as if he looked the past -- looked like he spent the past couple of

:10:10. > :10:15.weeks in a health farm... I think this is actually a man who has had

:10:16. > :10:20.sleepless nights and not on us -- enough time to exercise. I have been

:10:21. > :10:26.battling for Britain. It hasn't kept Michael Gove on side. How big a deal

:10:27. > :10:30.is that? Do you get a sense that we will see more people than we have

:10:31. > :10:35.currently predicted, saying they are prepared to back a Brexit? Now that

:10:36. > :10:38.this deal has been done? We will get more people in the sense that as

:10:39. > :10:41.soon as the deal was announced the Cabinet ministers are free to go.

:10:42. > :10:46.The interesting thing about that is it is pretty clear from the people

:10:47. > :10:51.around Michael Groves that -- Michael Groves that if the Cabinet

:10:52. > :10:59.assumed collective responsibility, he wouldn't have felt compelled to

:11:00. > :11:02.come out and say what he thought. But he genuinely believes Britain

:11:03. > :11:07.would be better as an independent nation and so he felt unable to

:11:08. > :11:12.carry on. Is he trying to have it both ways? We were also told that he

:11:13. > :11:19.won't be campaigning in a high-profile way. That I don't know

:11:20. > :11:27.about. So he isn't going to inhale, the bill Clinton analogy? It would

:11:28. > :11:33.be in -- interesting if that was the case. If you think what the

:11:34. > :11:41.Conservative government is doing, it is hard to... It is painful to have

:11:42. > :11:44.to say you will put it all at risk by going to the other side and

:11:45. > :11:50.saying the person I like and admire is also fundamentally wrong. It's a

:11:51. > :11:57.big night for Michael Gove and for newspapers. If I may be a newspaper

:11:58. > :12:01.nerd for a moment, you were saying that when we arrived tonight the

:12:02. > :12:06.Telegraph was the only paper that had a front-page going with the deal

:12:07. > :12:12.and the others were in their first editions, hedging. It hadn't even

:12:13. > :12:18.been formally announced. It shows you that on a fast moving Newsnight

:12:19. > :12:21.like this the changing role of newspapers and whether print is

:12:22. > :12:32.really the medium of the future. -- news night. If you are following

:12:33. > :12:35.this many would know instantly. Equally, what influence will things

:12:36. > :12:40.have on a night like this in about one month? Will the BBC still be

:12:41. > :12:49.picking up what the Independent is saying? Or a it start to fade?

:12:50. > :12:53.Obviously because of the work you do you have a different perspective on

:12:54. > :12:58.this. What is your sense of power key the websites are? Not just

:12:59. > :13:03.thinking about content, but actually the headline, the image, in a way

:13:04. > :13:09.that newspapers have traditionally done? And how durable that is? When

:13:10. > :13:11.you are writing for online you write the headlines in a completely

:13:12. > :13:14.different way than you do in the newspapers. When you write a

:13:15. > :13:22.headline on a newspaper you summarise the story as informatively

:13:23. > :13:25.as you can. Whereas with an online headline, which somebody will pick

:13:26. > :13:32.up on a search engine, you write it as cryptically as you can because

:13:33. > :13:35.you want to tease them into actually clicking on your story, instead of

:13:36. > :13:41.just getting the information they need from the seven words on Google.

:13:42. > :13:48.Five things you didn't know about sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll. They

:13:49. > :13:53.are all very important. Seven things we didn't know about Europe. What

:13:54. > :14:00.you do when you write online is what your readers or lack of readers are

:14:01. > :14:06.interested in. I know exactly how much traffic I get on my page. And

:14:07. > :14:11.how much effort you should make on that bit. Or do you just write about

:14:12. > :14:18.things people are already googling or do you write new things? When I

:14:19. > :14:26.write for the Telegraph, I can get 200 comments on a piece about the

:14:27. > :14:31.new Top Gear presenters but 70 comments on a piece about BBC Three,

:14:32. > :14:47.which shows you where the priorities R. -- priorities are. Just briefly.

:14:48. > :14:57.The IAP they're even has this in blue -- the i. The Mail takes us

:14:58. > :15:02.back to what we were talking about with the referendum campaign. This

:15:03. > :15:08.is in their judgement the real story. The Mail has prejudged the

:15:09. > :15:17.summit and decided that it hasn't worked. The PM's deal is picked to

:15:18. > :15:20.pieces, they say. So they got that wrong. And then they are talking

:15:21. > :15:24.about the fact that the head of Interpol, who is a Brit, has said

:15:25. > :15:28.that 5000 jihadis have entered Europe in the migrant search and

:15:29. > :15:34.they could be about to carry out attacks. Of course I have to say, if

:15:35. > :15:46.I was a jihadist living on the other side of the Mediterranean... This

:15:47. > :15:51.feeds into the politics, which is going to unfold over the weekend.

:15:52. > :15:57.Further down the story there are unnamed Tory MPs pointing out that

:15:58. > :16:00.the Prime Minister's deal does nothing to limit free movement

:16:01. > :16:05.across the EU and therefore it does nothing about this 5000 jihadis who

:16:06. > :16:11.might be on their way to new broadcasting house as we speak.

:16:12. > :16:14.That's not true. If you are migrant and you have been given refugee

:16:15. > :16:18.status in Germany, it will be five years before you get permission to

:16:19. > :16:24.move into the rest of the EU. So it is not true that if you arrive as a

:16:25. > :16:29.migrant in one part of Europe... The point about it, as Downing Street

:16:30. > :16:33.have said, is that we are not part of the Schengen agreement. We are in

:16:34. > :16:40.fact very protected from people coming into Britain. You can pick up

:16:41. > :16:46.on this but we are just going to see some pictures of David Cameron

:16:47. > :16:52.leaving Brussels with some relief. All I was going to say on a lighter

:16:53. > :16:58.note... There you go, he is smiling. They answer Eurosceptic. They are

:16:59. > :17:20.offering a free Monets print in the paper. -- on -- Monet. Thanks we

:17:21. > :17:23.much. It could be only four months away, as he didn't disagree when

:17:24. > :17:25.that was put to him. More news Abbottabad be our coming up. Now to

:17:26. > :17:38.the weather forecast. A weekend of weather contrasts

:17:39. > :17:47.across the UK, depending on which air mass you will be in. Some of us

:17:48. > :17:48.mild and some of us have snow. This is how it looks for the rest