:00:00. > :00:16.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers
:00:17. > :00:20.With me are Press and Journal's Westminster Correspondent,
:00:21. > :00:32.Lindsay Watling, and broadcaster David Akinsanya.
:00:33. > :00:36.Many thanks for coming in. We can look at some of the front pages in
:00:37. > :00:38.brief. The Sunday Times reports that
:00:39. > :00:41.David Cameron is being warned he may face a leadership challenge
:00:42. > :00:43.even if Britain votes to stay The Independent leads
:00:44. > :00:46.with the government's Investigatory Powers Bill being
:00:47. > :00:48.introduced in the Commons this week. The Observer has an interview with
:00:49. > :00:51.the Europe Minister David Lidington - who says Britain voting to leave
:00:52. > :00:54.the EU would spark a decade The Sunday Express leads
:00:55. > :00:58.with a survey suggesting 25 out of the 28 EU member states feel
:00:59. > :01:01.negatively about the future And sticking with the EU theme,
:01:02. > :01:09.the Mail reports on divisions within the Conservative party -
:01:10. > :01:11.with reports of the Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond clashing
:01:12. > :01:27.with a long standing Tory Lots of EU as you would imagine. It
:01:28. > :01:32.is a big story because of the new lines which are emerging from
:01:33. > :01:37.Shanghai and elsewhere. Let's start with the Observer. Brexit would
:01:38. > :01:41.spark decade of economic limbo. That is not what the Chi 20 have been
:01:42. > :01:50.saying. This is the Europe minister. This is from David living -- David
:01:51. > :01:56.living to the Europe minister. He has had a big role in getting the
:01:57. > :02:01.deal that is on the table. It is another EU story, another
:02:02. > :02:06.intervention from a Tory saying there could be a decade of economic
:02:07. > :02:14.uncertainty with disastrous consequences if written votes to
:02:15. > :02:19.leave the EU. He points to trade deals, suggesting the process of
:02:20. > :02:26.renegotiating trade deals with countries would take almost a decade
:02:27. > :02:30.if we were to leave the EU. David, you are a broadcaster and you
:02:31. > :02:35.probably hear from listeners and viewers probably more than newspaper
:02:36. > :02:40.correspondents do. Do people understand the economic implication
:02:41. > :02:43.of the EU? I don't think they do. Because you have this battle going
:02:44. > :02:48.on in the Tory party I think people are left very confused. We have a
:02:49. > :02:54.long way to go before the referendum in terms of hours of broadcasting,
:02:55. > :03:01.and I think, just look at The Papers now. Every single paper. Depending
:03:02. > :03:05.on which paper you read depends on what they have said. A financial
:03:06. > :03:11.expert has said there pitfalls that we pull out, pitfalls if we stay in
:03:12. > :03:16.and they present a balanced argument. That you cannot summarise
:03:17. > :03:21.those in easy sound bites. You said before we came now you are better
:03:22. > :03:24.off listening to economic experts. The problem is the politicians
:03:25. > :03:28.position themselves for their own futures or try and have a go at
:03:29. > :03:34.someone else and I think that is the problem. The real issues about
:03:35. > :03:37.immigration or paperwork increasing woody creasing of the come out of
:03:38. > :03:43.Europe, are the real issues. They want to know how it will affect
:03:44. > :03:47.them. The Europe minister is demanding clarity from the outcome,
:03:48. > :03:52.that is something they need to come up with? Yes, they need to say what
:03:53. > :03:56.the landscape will look like if we vote to leave the EU and there is a
:03:57. > :04:01.lot of talk about being a leap into the unknown. David Cameron and draws
:04:02. > :04:09.Osborne will be looking at what they have to do with the referendum does
:04:10. > :04:12.not go their way -- George Osborne. They will not be making a big deal
:04:13. > :04:16.out of it because they want a campaign to keep Britain in the EU
:04:17. > :04:23.said they will keep this under wraps. What this Observer front page
:04:24. > :04:29.gives some insight to the divisions within a political party. Shall we
:04:30. > :04:33.move on to the Mail on Sunday? They are describing it as a meltdown. It
:04:34. > :04:39.is a particular meltdown with the Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond
:04:40. > :04:43.involved. This is the paper talking about Philip Hammond apparently
:04:44. > :04:48.using some fairly unsavoury language in relation to Bill Cash for
:04:49. > :04:52.publishing what is supposed to be a secret Brussels legal report on the
:04:53. > :04:57.EU deal negotiated by David Cameron so he is taking issue with that.
:04:58. > :05:01.This story says he specifically told Sir Bill it was not to be published
:05:02. > :05:04.but when he turned up to give evidence before the EU scrutiny
:05:05. > :05:12.committee people had copies of it and it later went on a website. He
:05:13. > :05:14.has been under pressure anyway because he is a well-known
:05:15. > :05:17.Eurosceptic but he has come out in favour of the campaign. He said he
:05:18. > :05:21.will be loyal to David Cameron so I guess he has been under pressure
:05:22. > :05:29.from David Cameron and perhaps this has pushed him too far. I like the
:05:30. > :05:34.idea of blue on blue violence! They really are tearing themselves apart.
:05:35. > :05:38.Isn't that a good thing? To be passionate about it? You say blue on
:05:39. > :05:44.blue violence, this is huge disagreements but this is happening
:05:45. > :05:48.all over the country? I did know. I don't hear people in the street
:05:49. > :05:52.getting angry and agitated about it. It looks like people finding their
:05:53. > :05:58.own position and trying to make people agree with them. It feels
:05:59. > :06:02.like scaremongering. You have both sides saying it is all doom and
:06:03. > :06:08.gloom if we leave and people really want to know how will affect them
:06:09. > :06:12.and their issues like immigration. You say scaremongering. I think it's
:06:13. > :06:18.too much goes on, there is a risk of a really low turnout in the EU
:06:19. > :06:21.referendum. People thinking this has nothing to do with my life on a
:06:22. > :06:28.day-to-day basis, I will not brother voting.
:06:29. > :06:36.The newspapers have a responsibility to make it engaging but do it
:06:37. > :06:39.properly. People get bored of it. With the Scottish referendum people
:06:40. > :06:45.were confused. On all sides people were full of passion. I think with
:06:46. > :06:49.the Scottish referendum they could see how it related to their life
:06:50. > :06:54.more directly. I think it is harder with the EU because it is a layer of
:06:55. > :07:00.bureaucracy of both national governance. The Sunday Times reports
:07:01. > :07:03.on the danger of politicians being passionate about the EU referendum
:07:04. > :07:12.when they are all in the same political party. Tory threat to oust
:07:13. > :07:18.PM after EU vote, win or lose. It has been a tough week for Cameron.
:07:19. > :07:22.Lots of senior figures in his party, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove coming
:07:23. > :07:26.out and casting doubt on the legitimacy of the deal and whether
:07:27. > :07:31.it would be legally binding. He has had a tough week. Now we read he has
:07:32. > :07:35.been warned he will face a leadership challenge even if he wins
:07:36. > :07:38.the EU referendum. There is a comment from an unnamed senior
:07:39. > :07:42.backbencher which says his position will be untenable even if he wins
:07:43. > :07:46.the referendum, if he carries on like this, there will be no problem
:07:47. > :07:50.in getting 50 names, which is what they need for a vote of
:07:51. > :07:58.no-confidence. Is that because there will be so much dissatisfaction from
:07:59. > :08:04.people in his own party? Europe will always have a lot of dissatisfaction
:08:05. > :08:09.within the party. It is a difficult word to say! That is why I see more
:08:10. > :08:13.disarray within that party than the other parties. It appears so. We
:08:14. > :08:16.have always known there are some real right-wing Tories who do not
:08:17. > :08:19.want to be in Europe and David Cameron has been talking for years
:08:20. > :08:25.about appeasing them at keeping them quiet. He says he is not a big fan
:08:26. > :08:31.of the European Union but he is a big fan of Britain staying in. He
:08:32. > :08:36.says he has nothing to gain from it. It is dangerous because at the end
:08:37. > :08:39.of all of this, however it pans out, they have to come back and
:08:40. > :08:43.reassemble and try and move on. They are giving Labour run for their
:08:44. > :08:48.money this week and I think we will see more of that as the referendum
:08:49. > :08:53.gets closer. You see that in America with presidential elections. We are
:08:54. > :08:56.seeing it now with two front runners for their party, whether it is the
:08:57. > :09:00.Democrats for the Republicans, having a go at each other and
:09:01. > :09:05.putting each other down but they seem to be able to repair it and the
:09:06. > :09:10.relationship carries on. You would hope so. The whole point of
:09:11. > :09:15.democracy is people having different opinions and challenging each other
:09:16. > :09:20.and moving on afterwards. In America you are voting for the president.
:09:21. > :09:24.And the political party they represent that you do focus more on
:09:25. > :09:29.the president than the characters they represent. We will stick with
:09:30. > :09:34.the Sunday Times. This does get people debating up and down the
:09:35. > :09:53.country, childless. They have had warnings. -- chuggers. They have
:09:54. > :10:01.been debating this. Shall be explained what chuggers are? Charity
:10:02. > :10:07.muggers. I wish they had buckets. If they have buckets I am happy, it is
:10:08. > :10:11.the direct debit details. I do street consultations for community
:10:12. > :10:14.groups and these chuggers have really spoiled your work because if
:10:15. > :10:21.they see you with a clipboard they think you are going to ask them for
:10:22. > :10:24.a direct debit. In some places they have been very aggressive. You can
:10:25. > :10:28.take a route to avoid them by going behind but they are spread across
:10:29. > :10:32.the pavement. There is a real danger for charities in terms of
:10:33. > :10:35.fundraising longer-term because so much damage is being done to
:10:36. > :10:39.charities. When you give money, you think this is great, I am doing
:10:40. > :10:44.something good. But then you hear these tactics are going on. There
:10:45. > :10:48.was one clear pensioner but you hear horror stories of cold calling when
:10:49. > :10:58.your information is passed on and shared, your data. So chuggers, they
:10:59. > :11:02.have been banned from some Boris? Some councils have banned them. It
:11:03. > :11:07.is this whole idea that once you give your details, someone said you
:11:08. > :11:12.can buy your details. They sell it to other charities. When you have so
:11:13. > :11:17.many cutbacks going on and charities having to do so much, they are
:11:18. > :11:20.desperate for money. I work with charities and I sit on committees. I
:11:21. > :11:24.do not give cash any more because what I have seen from the inside, a
:11:25. > :11:30.lot of charities in very swanky offices not far from here, with
:11:31. > :11:35.their headquarters and CEOs who are earning ?120,000 and that is why
:11:36. > :11:41.people do not want to give money. But if you stop giving money then
:11:42. > :11:45.where does the money come from? I give my time. I am not criticising
:11:46. > :11:51.you but if everybody stops, it is a hard line to walk, I suspect. Shall
:11:52. > :11:57.we talk about snoopers? You have had a chance to read the inside pages
:11:58. > :12:03.which have come through. Basically there is a bill which is being put
:12:04. > :12:08.forward by Theresa May and this is number two. The suggestion in the
:12:09. > :12:12.story is there will be a suggestion to bounce MPs into backing it head
:12:13. > :12:19.of the EU referendum. The suggestion is they are trying to rush it
:12:20. > :12:24.through. Essentially, the aim of the bill is to force Internet service
:12:25. > :12:31.providers and mobile phone companies to maintain records of each user's
:12:32. > :12:36.browser history. It gives spy agencies sweeping powers. To go back
:12:37. > :12:45.over stuff. It has been controversial and the suggestion is
:12:46. > :12:50.they are trying to sweep it through. Presumably Theresa May has been
:12:51. > :12:55.watching the Apple thing. I've learned how to cure my phone is. I
:12:56. > :12:58.am old and I'm scared to do anything online because I am worried about
:12:59. > :13:05.people getting hold of my details, the debit cards and stuff. We are
:13:06. > :13:12.not being snooped on 24/7, every e-mail we send? It is about having
:13:13. > :13:16.access to it when it is asked for. We are not being spied on around the
:13:17. > :13:21.clock but still a lot of liberty groups are very unhappy about it.
:13:22. > :13:30.Shall we talk about Adele? How much would you pay to see heroin concept?
:13:31. > :13:39.24 ground. I had the money, I would. Not many people have that money to
:13:40. > :13:48.waste on a ticket. -- the money to see her in concert. She has tried in
:13:49. > :13:57.the past to stop those who sell on resale tickets. I don't think she
:13:58. > :14:01.would like this. She has deliberately gone out to try and
:14:02. > :14:06.stop this. There are people who live in London, I know there is a lot of
:14:07. > :14:10.poverty but they have so much money that if they fancy going and they
:14:11. > :14:16.have 24 ground to pay, they will do it. Your average fan does not have
:14:17. > :14:20.24 ground. Your average fan does not have access to the Internet to get
:14:21. > :14:27.online quick enough to get one of the tickets. That is the problem.
:14:28. > :14:34.Has this ticket been sold legally? It is through one of the four main
:14:35. > :14:39.ticket selling websites. There are websites where you can resell a
:14:40. > :14:45.ticket and usually says you cannot resell it but you can. It is
:14:46. > :14:53.capitalism. There you go. If I had the money I would be there in the
:14:54. > :14:59.front row. I think she is great. She won four Brit awards last week.
:15:00. > :15:02.Worth every penny. She is the lady of the moment. You are big fan, I
:15:03. > :15:04.can tell! That's it for The Papers
:15:05. > :15:06.for this hour. Thank you Lindsay Watling
:15:07. > :15:08.and David Akinsanya, you'll both be back at 11.30pm
:15:09. > :15:19.for another look at the stories We will have more from the G20.
:15:20. > :15:29.Coming up next, Reporters.