28/02/2016

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:00:15. > :00:16.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

:00:17. > :00:20.With me are the author and journalist Matthew Green

:00:21. > :00:35.Darren Lehmann says she is exquisite on Twitter. There you go.

:00:36. > :00:38.Trinity Mirror launches New Day, kicking off its front page with

:00:39. > :00:46.a report which highlights the plight of 40,000 infant carers.

:00:47. > :00:48.The Financial Times carries claims from the British Retail Consortium

:00:49. > :00:51.that one million jobs in retail will disappear by 2025.

:00:52. > :00:54.The Daily Express states migrants will have received benefits to the

:00:55. > :01:02.The Metro headlines comments from Eurosceptic cabinet minister

:01:03. > :01:04.Iain Duncan Smith, who says David Cameron has a low opinion

:01:05. > :01:09.of the British people for suggesting a Brexit would be a major gamble.

:01:10. > :01:12.The Times focuses on the growing fury of Cabinet ministers who

:01:13. > :01:15.support a Brexit being denied access to official EU documents.

:01:16. > :01:17.The Daily Telegraph headlines a leaked report,

:01:18. > :01:19.which suggests up to twenty-thousand people in need of emergency care

:01:20. > :01:22.were denied immediate access to ambulances so that officials could

:01:23. > :01:28.The Daily Mail leads with claims from a new book,

:01:29. > :01:30.which suggests former prime minister Tony Blair decided to invade Iraq

:01:31. > :01:33.The i headlines a report which says Chancellor George

:01:34. > :01:44.Osbourne's Northern Ppowerhouse is seriously lacking.

:01:45. > :01:55.-- Powerhouse. We start with something completely new. The New

:01:56. > :02:01.Day is a new paper from the Trinity Mirror promising not to tell us what

:02:02. > :02:04.to think but to be impartial. The front page has a story about stolen

:02:05. > :02:15.childhood and 40,000 infant carers in this country. What of the look of

:02:16. > :02:21.the papermasse I think it is openly. -- what of the look of the paper? It

:02:22. > :02:25.is a new paper which is a good thing. If you ask if I am pleased if

:02:26. > :02:30.it is a new paper, I am thrilled but I don't think it is laid out very

:02:31. > :02:36.well. It has a strong story on the front page. We are always sorry to

:02:37. > :02:41.hear about child carers. I am surprised because the paper says it

:02:42. > :02:50.is there to be upbeat and optimistic and will provide a different

:02:51. > :02:54.perspective. It has begun with this very important but depressing story.

:02:55. > :02:58.We said before we can hardly believe it is only nine days since learning

:02:59. > :03:03.the Independent would go online only and yet here we have a publisher

:03:04. > :03:09.deciding there is an appetite for this. The idea of a business model

:03:10. > :03:13.consisting of growing trees, chopping them down, turning them

:03:14. > :03:16.into newsprint and printing something that happened yesterday

:03:17. > :03:29.and distributing it to large numbers seems 20th century. It is great to

:03:30. > :03:36.see such a bold move into the market. We can be more broadminded.

:03:37. > :03:41.We are delighted for the readers. Let's hope there will be some. They

:03:42. > :03:46.are giving away free copies. It will be 25p and then it will be 50p. They

:03:47. > :03:57.have managed to get the Prime Minister to write on page 12 about

:03:58. > :04:14.the story of the year, the Brexit campaign. He is setting out his

:04:15. > :04:20.stall. How anti- Brexit e-cig? -- is he? It is familiar ground, talking

:04:21. > :04:28.about how complicated and uncertain it will be if Britain leaves the EU,

:04:29. > :04:32.raising questions about trade deals and the relationship with the EU, so

:04:33. > :04:37.there are no surprises. Nonetheless it is a good start for the paper. I

:04:38. > :04:41.am glad you were paying close enough attention or we could have had more

:04:42. > :04:48.trouble. There is balance in the form of a teacher who is undecided.

:04:49. > :04:55.She does not know whether to stay in or to leave. What are her concerns?

:04:56. > :04:58.She does not understand the issues. I have really been surprised by the

:04:59. > :05:03.Europe today because I thought most people would make their decisions on

:05:04. > :05:07.an emotional basis. Just thinking their gut instinct is in or out,

:05:08. > :05:10.which is how most of us make political decisions but I am struck

:05:11. > :05:15.I how many people over the last ten days who say they want to hear the

:05:16. > :05:19.argument. That is because it is so complicated that we have no idea

:05:20. > :05:25.whether or not it is good or not. We don't know how trade deals work.

:05:26. > :05:29.Shall we ignore that foreign? I think it was mine. I am terribly

:05:30. > :05:37.sorry. I thought I had turned it off. If you are trying to call, she

:05:38. > :05:45.is on telly, please wait. We are discussing serious matters. You may

:05:46. > :05:50.never have me back. We will, of course. This is what makes the

:05:51. > :05:57.papers what it is. It is live TV. Exactly. To finish that point, if

:05:58. > :06:04.one side or the other can make it clear to all of us, in a language we

:06:05. > :06:10.can understand... (CROSSTALK). The issue that will galvanise the

:06:11. > :06:15.outvote. Immigration is easy to understand but... A lot of people

:06:16. > :06:23.want to know what the future is for their family. It would mean ten

:06:24. > :06:25.years of uncertainty, and we know how much markets hate uncertainty,

:06:26. > :06:33.and the pound has already taken a hit, hasn't it? Why could it be so

:06:34. > :06:36.complicated and a long process? This is a leaked government report

:06:37. > :06:42.analysing what would happen if there is a vote for a Brexit and it is

:06:43. > :06:44.going into the details of how complicated it would be to extricate

:06:45. > :06:50.ourselves from this arrangement we've been part of for 40 years.

:06:51. > :06:55.There is trade with the other countries in the EU, everything from

:06:56. > :07:00.fishing rights, agricultural policy, security arrangements, and

:07:01. > :07:05.we have to renegotiate another 50 trade deals with other countries

:07:06. > :07:11.outside the EU that are covered in the EU trade deal, so it is an

:07:12. > :07:19.absolute nightmare. There are plenty who think it is doable, that it is

:07:20. > :07:23.just the paperwork, but it is about sovereignty, having control over as

:07:24. > :07:28.in destiny. Those in favour of a Brexit like Boris Johnson has said

:07:29. > :07:30.there could be up to a decade of uncertainty. They acknowledge it

:07:31. > :07:36.will be complicated. The argument is in the long-term it is worth

:07:37. > :07:41.extricating ourselves. It is something we can't really tell. We

:07:42. > :07:45.have had a very complicated time trying to get the simple agreement

:07:46. > :07:49.out of the EU about how we have different states at the moment.

:07:50. > :07:53.Imagine having hundreds of thousands of negotiations with the EU and

:07:54. > :08:01.other countries. It will take a very long time. The Times, rising fury of

:08:02. > :08:06.ministers muzzled over Brexit. Demanding answers from the civil

:08:07. > :08:12.services chief. Certain ministers are not being allowed access to EU

:08:13. > :08:16.documents. Do we know what they are? I am not sure. It is a good story.

:08:17. > :08:22.Eurosceptic ministers have been told they can't access briefings to do

:08:23. > :08:26.with the referendum. Ministers like Iain Duncan Smith say what it means

:08:27. > :08:31.is that they don't have free access to the papers affecting how the

:08:32. > :08:34.departments operate. And the Times have been sensible, of course, there

:08:35. > :08:40.is an impartial civil service meant to service the government, it cant

:08:41. > :08:44.start writing anti- EU briefings because ministers want them --

:08:45. > :08:48.can't. At the same time we have ministers who don't know what's

:08:49. > :08:53.going on. You can't have two types of ministers. Couldn't we have

:08:54. > :09:00.foreseen this coming? Well, it is very complicated. If the government

:09:01. > :09:04.is supposed to be impartial but ministers equal, you can see it is

:09:05. > :09:10.difficult. You don't want people to act against you using government

:09:11. > :09:13.statistics. It is the internal feud dominating debate, rather than

:09:14. > :09:20.whether it would be better to be in or out for Britain. We look at the

:09:21. > :09:23.Independent. Northern poorhouse is the headline. Ten of the most

:09:24. > :09:34.struggling towns and cities are in the north. The North really needs

:09:35. > :09:39.the Powerhouse... Before that, it is unusual to see a newspaper printed

:09:40. > :09:44.outside London on this programme. What do you mean? We should have

:09:45. > :09:50.northern newspapers. Oh, dear. Don't start. It comes up again and again

:09:51. > :09:52.and we hear it from all of the London press. We don't get papers

:09:53. > :10:02.outside the capital. That is not quite true. The Sunday Post, the

:10:03. > :10:11.Herald. Occasionally. The New Day, the northern paper. I suppose I am

:10:12. > :10:22.making a facetious point, but... We do do the Western Mail occasionally.

:10:23. > :10:25.To the story, it is a new report saying that ten of the UK's most

:10:26. > :10:30.travelling cities are in the north, which is not much of a surprise.

:10:31. > :10:34.There has been this northern powerhouse initiative launched by

:10:35. > :10:40.George Osborne to devolve political power. The report is saying that it

:10:41. > :10:45.is not delivering results. You say it would be OK if we had HS2? There

:10:46. > :10:50.is no mention of it in these pages. It is saying that there are hasn't

:10:51. > :10:53.been much of the strategy and it says that in deprived areas, telling

:10:54. > :11:04.them to get on with it, is not working. UK Imams travel to Iraq. At

:11:05. > :11:08.a time when leaders are under pressure to combat extremism, it is

:11:09. > :11:12.an extreme initiative. It is completely new. Different from what

:11:13. > :11:17.we have had from education in schools. It is sending Sunni Imams

:11:18. > :11:21.to the front lines to learn from people living under ice is really

:11:22. > :11:30.like to come at and say to the people who listen to them, you know

:11:31. > :11:36.it is not going to paradise but having a nice time now. It is quite

:11:37. > :11:40.perilous. It could be depending on where they visit. How close they go

:11:41. > :11:45.to the ice is controlled areas. It goes to the core of the question

:11:46. > :11:51.about how to combat radicalisation among Muslim youth in the UK. It is

:11:52. > :11:55.great that Imams are doing this and it is important to have the message

:11:56. > :12:01.broadcast through the mosques, the mainstream asks, but one of the fact

:12:02. > :12:05.that have emerged of late is the influence of the Internet and this

:12:06. > :12:10.culture of jihadi cool which so many young men seem to be hypnotised by.

:12:11. > :12:17.That is very slick propaganda, through preachers in the Middle East

:12:18. > :12:20.and other parts of the world broadcasting their worldview to them

:12:21. > :12:26.and whether or not the message of these well-meaning imams will reach

:12:27. > :12:33.of these young men is open to question. It has to be worth a try.

:12:34. > :12:39.The FT, luxury flats lose foreign buyers. I never thought I would read

:12:40. > :12:42.that. This is the closest we have come to a good new story apart from

:12:43. > :12:44.the fact that there is a beautiful dress on the front of the Times

:12:45. > :12:56.which lifted all of Azema experience. Especially Matthew's! --

:12:57. > :12:59.all of our spirits. We were hoping that apparently the market is

:13:00. > :13:04.falling in the luxury market even for flats in Battersea Power Station

:13:05. > :13:09.which have got 24-hour butlers, it means perhaps developers will stop

:13:10. > :13:12.marketing their flights abroad to the multimillionaires and build

:13:13. > :13:18.flats at Londoners can live in. Is there an off money in affordable

:13:19. > :13:24.flats? I can only afford a 12 hour service for my butler. I can't

:13:25. > :13:33.afford that. Jean Cabut unaddressed. I think no one can. -- I can't

:13:34. > :13:39.afford this Dolce and Gabbana dress. How much would it be worth? Into the

:13:40. > :13:44.hundreds of thousands. It is the rolling for me, anyway, which is why

:13:45. > :13:47.I won't be buying it. She said. Anyway. I don't know how happy

:13:48. > :13:52.Matthew has been with the selection of papers tonight. We will try to do

:13:53. > :13:56.better next time. Lovely to see you. Thank you. That is it for the papers

:13:57. > :13:57.tonight. Thank you to Matthew