04/03/2016

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:00:00. > :00:00.That leaves of one rubber apiece. We will bring you the results from a

:00:00. > :00:07.host of rugby matches across both codes. That is in 15 minutes after

:00:08. > :00:15.the papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

:00:16. > :00:18.to what the papers will be With me are the Mirror's

:00:19. > :00:21.Deputy Political Editor, Jack Blanchard, and the Daily

:00:22. > :00:23.Telegraph columnist Tim Stanley. The Independent claims that Facebook

:00:24. > :00:39.may pay "little or nothing" in additional tax for the next few

:00:40. > :00:42.years, despite today's announcement The Culture Secretary,

:00:43. > :00:44.John Whittingdale, tells the Telegraph that the Prime

:00:45. > :00:46.Minister should release figures that show "the true number

:00:47. > :00:48.of European Union migrants" A Home Office Minister tells

:00:49. > :00:53.the Daily Mail that human rights laws mean some illegal immigrants

:00:54. > :00:57.can't be deported from the UK. Meanwhile, the Express says

:00:58. > :00:59.the number of new asylum applications lodged across the EU

:01:00. > :01:05.last year rose to 1.2 million. According to The Times,

:01:06. > :01:07.George Osborne has abandoned an overhaul of pension tax

:01:08. > :01:12.after a revolt from Tory MPs. 20 years since 16 pupils

:01:13. > :01:14.and a teacher were killed at Dunblane Primary School,

:01:15. > :01:17.the headteacher back in 1996 has given an emotional

:01:18. > :01:33.interview to The Mirror. We are going to start with pensions,

:01:34. > :01:38.which I know will have everyone on fire! Threat of the new Tory revolt

:01:39. > :01:47.before the referendum. What is he abandoning? Good question. It is a

:01:48. > :01:54.plan that has been floated about for a couple of weeks, it is about

:01:55. > :01:56.cutting pension tax relief. It is another screeching U-turn from the

:01:57. > :02:01.Chancellor that is made at something of the trademark of his, and he

:02:02. > :02:07.tends to do it on a Friday night as well, maybe he thinks people will

:02:08. > :02:13.notice. There has been lots of opposition from Conservative MPs and

:02:14. > :02:18.papers, like yours. He has decided that this isn't the time to do this.

:02:19. > :02:25.He is feeling a bit sensitive about backbenchers and at don't think he

:02:26. > :02:27.thinks he has the strength to do it. Well, we bang your head a brick wall

:02:28. > :02:33.if you are not going to get it through? Maybe he shouldn't have

:02:34. > :02:37.floated the idea in the first place. By taking more from higher rate

:02:38. > :02:41.earners to discourage them from putting money in the pension pot.

:02:42. > :02:48.The payoff of taking more when people invest is that he said he was

:02:49. > :02:53.going to allow them to enjoy their pension income tax-free. The problem

:02:54. > :02:58.with that is it is robbing Peter to pay Paul. The Treasury will get lots

:02:59. > :03:01.of money now, 10,000,000,000-a-year, but down the road it would have

:03:02. > :03:06.meant there would be less income coming in and do you trust a future

:03:07. > :03:15.government not to decide we do think we will tax pension income. It has

:03:16. > :03:21.to be said, fans of Boris enemies of Georgia starting to say that he is

:03:22. > :03:24.of Gordon Brown. First of all, being somebody who likes to tinker

:03:25. > :03:29.cleverly in ways that squeeze more money out of the middle-class

:03:30. > :03:35.taxpayers, but also somebody who has a habit of U-turns. There was

:03:36. > :03:39.U-turns over the tax credits, a bit like the 10p rate under Gordon

:03:40. > :03:45.Brown. Why did you give him some credit for changing his mind when he

:03:46. > :03:51.sees it is not politically expedient or not as good an idea as he thought

:03:52. > :03:54.it was. Normally you would give somebody credit for changing their

:03:55. > :04:00.mind because maybe the situation has changed. The truth is he doesn't

:04:01. > :04:03.have the strength to push this through. They are fighting in the EU

:04:04. > :04:09.referendum on all fronts at the moment. The government are taking a

:04:10. > :04:12.lot of stick from their own party and their own press and I think this

:04:13. > :04:18.is one battle he has decided it is not the right time. He is going to

:04:19. > :04:25.have to make big cuts. This was his big idea. It is quite complicated,

:04:26. > :04:28.not many people would understand that, maybe he thought he could do

:04:29. > :04:33.it without people really noticing the people have noticed that they

:04:34. > :04:39.Dorff. A problem with this reform is that it is so complicated. That is a

:04:40. > :04:43.Gordon Brown style trait of doing things which seem very clever

:04:44. > :04:46.because they are very complex in the hope that nobody will notice that

:04:47. > :04:54.what you're actually doing is simply taking more money from people. They

:04:55. > :05:01.were supposed to be handing more money over in tax, Facebook to pay

:05:02. > :05:04.more tax, but not yet. Facebook apparently was written in thinking

:05:05. > :05:09.through Ireland's, meaning it could avoid paying tax but they say they

:05:10. > :05:16.will not do that. The Independent has pointed out that it is sitting

:05:17. > :05:22.on ?21.4 million in deferred tax relief so could be some time before

:05:23. > :05:27.that money is paid to the Treasury. You can do very losses, can't you.

:05:28. > :05:32.You can if your Facebook. They haven't actually told us what the

:05:33. > :05:36.new structure will look like. The still have an extremely public at a

:05:37. > :05:43.corporate. How much more they will be playing we have no idea. It seems

:05:44. > :05:46.like there are larger customers will have their business processed here

:05:47. > :05:51.rather than in Ireland and smaller customers will still be held in

:05:52. > :05:56.Ireland, as I understand that. We don't know how much business they

:05:57. > :06:03.are actually going to do in the UK. They are not compelled to tell us.

:06:04. > :06:12.Right, and this is about us moving away to add kind of economy where

:06:13. > :06:17.big companies can pay that kind of tax they want to wherever they want

:06:18. > :06:27.to. That is the nature of capitalism. It is hard to find a

:06:28. > :06:31.global policy Forum getting tax, is that? Really they just pay as much

:06:32. > :06:35.tax as they feel like. Deviously they felt like paying next to no

:06:36. > :06:40.tax. People got very angry, they want to get some good PR, but really

:06:41. > :06:46.they are deciding we will pay this much now. They are not paying the

:06:47. > :06:53.same sort of level that a small business pays, and they don't get a

:06:54. > :07:02.say. Paying tax should not be a matter of PR. Reputation believe,

:07:03. > :07:09.how bad is it for Facebook? To advertise to stop advertising if the

:07:10. > :07:13.company they are using to advertise have good ways of getting around tax

:07:14. > :07:18.law? I don't think so. It comes down to the nature of this kind of

:07:19. > :07:26.corporation, the nature of capitalism today. He used to know

:07:27. > :07:31.that a coal mine, a physical thing, you could go to it and tax it.

:07:32. > :07:38.Migrants next. The Daily Mail first of all. Human rights mean there is

:07:39. > :07:42.nothing we can do to deport them. Who are at this particular group of

:07:43. > :07:49.illegal migrants? I don't think it is any particular group. They are

:07:50. > :07:54.the ones who are in this country, are still coming to this country. Of

:07:55. > :07:59.course there is an ongoing problem of illegal migration and many

:08:00. > :08:04.countries are at tackling this problem of illegal migrants. I don't

:08:05. > :08:09.think it is a new situation. The problem is it is now very prescient

:08:10. > :08:16.because of the situation in Europe. Suddenly the sorts of issues become

:08:17. > :08:26.very politicised. Richard Harrington, Home Office Minister, he

:08:27. > :08:29.seemed to be speaking about these immigrants who come in having burned

:08:30. > :08:36.their passports and they would say where they come from. If you don't

:08:37. > :08:40.know the country of origin, you can't send them back there. The

:08:41. > :08:48.thing to do is ask the asylum seekers! I'm sure that tried that!

:08:49. > :08:52.If somebody has come on has burned their passport and was not

:08:53. > :08:56.cooperating, they should be arrested and face jail. I'm sure in the

:08:57. > :09:00.process of going to the criminal justice system we will find at some

:09:01. > :09:04.point where they have come from. If so we can make a good guess on

:09:05. > :09:10.whether or not they should be sent back. If we put them in prison, we

:09:11. > :09:14.still don't know where to send them back to when they come out. Some

:09:15. > :09:22.Tory MPs were trying to push for a change in the law, where we could

:09:23. > :09:25.lock them up for six months. What Harrington said to them in the House

:09:26. > :09:29.of Commons, what happens after the six months? Will this really deter

:09:30. > :09:36.people from trying to get to this country? They will risk of hunger

:09:37. > :09:43.and disease the rest of the top six months in a British prison, no, I am

:09:44. > :09:50.not doing that! It is an intractable problem. The whole world is trying

:09:51. > :09:56.to deal with this. It could be solved if people were processed

:09:57. > :10:02.outside the United Kingdom. They are supposed to be processed in Greece

:10:03. > :10:08.and Italy. The numbers are too high. Italy and Greece can't afford to do

:10:09. > :10:14.it. France has got the nerve to talk about the handling of Calais. They

:10:15. > :10:20.shouldn't be in Calais, they should have been returned to Italy or

:10:21. > :10:24.Germany. It is a breakdown of the Dublin agreement. Asylum seekers

:10:25. > :10:29.should be processed in the first country they arrive in. A lot of

:10:30. > :10:36.refugees don't want to stay with a full slant -- where the first line,

:10:37. > :10:40.do they? Tough cheese. It got to you. If they don't, they are

:10:41. > :10:45.breaking the law. It is not a humanitarian issue in the sense that

:10:46. > :10:52.we should take people, I am not denying that, but there has to be

:10:53. > :10:58.illegal struck at the people obeyed. The culture secretary has called for

:10:59. > :11:06.the Prime Minister to reveal the true number of migrants. This is the

:11:07. > :11:11.latest attack of the Eurosceptic movement, to seize upon this.

:11:12. > :11:16.Understandably so. It is a genuine question first Group just before

:11:17. > :11:21.Christmas by an economist, the difference between our official

:11:22. > :11:26.migration figures and the number of people from abroad who have

:11:27. > :11:30.registered for a National Insurance number, there was a huge difference.

:11:31. > :11:35.There are many more of these National Insurance numbers and there

:11:36. > :11:39.are officially people here. Why is there of this disparity question are

:11:40. > :11:44.a lot more people here than official figures show? It was raised to prime

:11:45. > :11:49.ministers questions on whether he batted it away, but this is clearly

:11:50. > :11:57.not a coordinated attack by the Eurosceptics to put some pressure on

:11:58. > :12:02.him, to suggest that migration is served an even bigger figure. You

:12:03. > :12:08.could come for a short while, get yourself a number and go again. You

:12:09. > :12:12.could, absolutely. I don't think it is about trying just to figure out

:12:13. > :12:17.how many people here. I think he's trying to prove point about why

:12:18. > :12:21.people come. When David Cameron came back from Brussels with a great deal

:12:22. > :12:25.he put the emphasis on benefits, saying we will delay access to in

:12:26. > :12:30.work benefits on the principle that people come to Britain in such large

:12:31. > :12:34.numbers in order to access benefits. Eurosceptic Sir saying that isn't

:12:35. > :12:38.true, that is only a small proportion of people. People come

:12:39. > :12:42.for the work. That is what I think John Whittingdale is trying to

:12:43. > :12:48.prove, that unless you can sort the borders, stick to a number... I

:12:49. > :12:55.think most people think migrants come here to work. It is true, isn't

:12:56. > :13:06.it? Let's finish with the times and the picture of a newly married

:13:07. > :13:20.couple. The man owns the paper. It is a flattering photograph! Can we

:13:21. > :13:29.be nice about this? Yes, why not? I am pleased. It is the Roman Spring

:13:30. > :13:40.of Rupert and Jerry. Her first wedding, his fourth. You can be as

:13:41. > :13:44.mean as July, but I to join in. The Mirror has done this page three

:13:45. > :13:44.tomorrow, and I hope Rupert thinks is appropriate.

:13:45. > :13:48.Thank you Jack Blanchard and Tim Stanley.

:13:49. > :13:53.You'll both be back at 11.30pm for another look at the stories

:13:54. > :14:04.Coming up next it's time for Sportsday.