05/03/2016

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:00:16. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:19. > :00:23.With me are Laura Hughes, political correspondent

:00:24. > :00:25.of the Daily Telegraph, and the journalist and political

:00:26. > :00:33.Welcome, good to have you here again.

:00:34. > :00:34.Let's have a look at the front pages.

:00:35. > :00:36.The Telegraph leads with Boris Johnson attacking

:00:37. > :00:38.what he call's David Cameron's "Agents of Fear" in the ongoing

:00:39. > :00:42.The Sunday Times has the same story plus a warning

:00:43. > :00:44.from the Justice Secretary, Michael Gove that the "EU fuels

:00:45. > :00:48.The Independent has an exclusive on what it says is a cover-up

:00:49. > :00:52.of the treatment of terror suspects in the UK.

:00:53. > :00:55."NHS to harvest babies' organs" is the rather alarming headline

:00:56. > :01:01.The Sunday Express says Britannia will no longer rule the waves

:01:02. > :01:04.claiming the EU wants to take charge of the UK coastguard as part

:01:05. > :01:19.Welcome to both of you. Laura, let's begin with the Sunday Telegraph, a

:01:20. > :01:23.couple of stories, Boris Furia over EU bullying scandal. This is all to

:01:24. > :01:34.do with the suspension of the British Chamber of Commerce director

:01:35. > :01:37.general? Yes, the BBC should take a neutral stance, but he said they

:01:38. > :01:44.should be out. It caused controversy. It's been claimed that

:01:45. > :01:49.Downing Street lent on the board, the BCC, they said that the comments

:01:50. > :01:54.were inappropriate. They say that conversations did not happen between

:01:55. > :01:59.the board and number ten, Boris is having fun, this follows from

:02:00. > :02:09.project fear, he says. He says agents of the are putting pressure

:02:10. > :02:14.on businesses and people, bullying is absolutely shocking. It is strong

:02:15. > :02:19.language from Boris here. It is a good opportunity for the campaigners

:02:20. > :02:24.of the EU to leave the EU. What do you make of it? It's interesting,

:02:25. > :02:29.John Longworth said it was his personal view. Surely, being head of

:02:30. > :02:32.the BCC, he says it is not going to be taken on a personal note, he must

:02:33. > :02:38.have realised it would have cost uproar. Members of the board are

:02:39. > :02:46.split. -- caused uproar. We will see more stories like this, it is

:02:47. > :02:54.inappropriate not have a view on it. We've seen some division, people for

:02:55. > :02:59.the Brexit or the vote, that exit, whatever it is called, they say they

:03:00. > :03:03.are being bullied into not giving a point of view, it is interesting,

:03:04. > :03:07.because the government has allowed ministers to vote. They are

:03:08. > :03:11.campaigning, I think the Tory party will face a meltdown at some point,

:03:12. > :03:16.they are at each other's throats. The fact Boris Johnson calls it

:03:17. > :03:20.scandalous, it is part of his way of talking. It is interesting, we had

:03:21. > :03:24.this Iain Duncan Smith earlier in the week when he implied one of the

:03:25. > :03:30.government documents on the subject was like the dodgy dossier over

:03:31. > :03:34.weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The implication is the Prime

:03:35. > :03:37.Minister cannot be trusted on it, but the theory is people like Iain

:03:38. > :03:42.Duncan Smith and Boris Johnson will be sat around the table again with

:03:43. > :03:47.David Cameron on June 24, do people find that credible in Westminster?

:03:48. > :03:52.It's a collective responsibility in his own cabinet, he has key players,

:03:53. > :03:55.divisive and strong people like Michael Gove, Iain Duncan Smith,

:03:56. > :03:59.he's really interesting because he is in charge of benefits and migrant

:04:00. > :04:04.benefit issue will be a big one when it comes to voters choosing whether

:04:05. > :04:07.or not they want to leave the EU referendum. It ties into the

:04:08. > :04:13.leadership contest. We have reported before that after the referendum,

:04:14. > :04:17.the next leader of the Tory party, if Britain votes to stay in, would

:04:18. > :04:23.have to come from the vote leave campaign, it could be Boris or Priti

:04:24. > :04:26.Patel. It's interesting, having that in the back of your mind every time

:04:27. > :04:32.you hear these big characters making comments like this on stories.

:04:33. > :04:36.Another story on the front of the Telegraph, different reasons why

:04:37. > :04:39.ministers are falling out, over Sunday trading? It links into what

:04:40. > :04:45.Laura was saying about collective responsibility, we will see

:04:46. > :04:50.disagreements, people are more courageous about giving out their

:04:51. > :04:54.opinions, they will see a Cabinet reshuffle, this is about Sunday

:04:55. > :04:58.trading hours, an issue the government has raised before. The

:04:59. > :05:02.vote is on Wednesday. According to the story, two ministers, they

:05:03. > :05:12.aren't named, I don't know if it is on the inside, I don't make so. In

:05:13. > :05:16.addition to 50 MPs, they may vote against us. We know Labour will vote

:05:17. > :05:22.against, the SNP it is not clear. It is about the government could lose,

:05:23. > :05:28.potentially, or get a large opposition within their own party

:05:29. > :05:36.it's not clear how the vote will go but it is coming up on Wednesday.

:05:37. > :05:39.The SNP, it's another example, like the hunting law, the government gave

:05:40. > :05:43.up and said there was no point in trying to bring it back because the

:05:44. > :05:49.SNP would vote against. They can reach across the House of Commons

:05:50. > :05:51.and join forces, the same with Labour, it is a cross-party

:05:52. > :06:04.rebellion that is happening. That is trouble. Let's move on, "Britain

:06:05. > :06:09.will no longer ruled the waves". This is on the Sunday express. It

:06:10. > :06:12.would make anyone set up. I wonder what they think about the EU, the

:06:13. > :06:18.first line of the article says that the EU has drawn up plans to seize

:06:19. > :06:22.control of the British coastguard. You read through the whole story,

:06:23. > :06:25.its difficult to say whether these plans have been given the go-ahead

:06:26. > :06:29.or whether they are considering it, but it is clear the British

:06:30. > :06:35.government's view is that Britain is not part of the Schengen area. So

:06:36. > :06:38.far, everything coming from the government is that we are not

:06:39. > :06:43.included, but having said that, some of the language in how the story is

:06:44. > :06:46.written, you would think that Russia is controlling the coastguard. It is

:06:47. > :06:52.about the migrant crisis that we're having at the moment in Europe.

:06:53. > :06:56.Britain so far has been at bay from accepting refugees that coming in

:06:57. > :07:00.from Syria and other places of conflict, in addition to some

:07:01. > :07:04.migrants in different parts of the world. However, they say that the

:07:05. > :07:10.Eurocrats, bureaucrats from Europe, they want to take control. It is

:07:11. > :07:13.difficult to know whether this will go ahead. Given that Britain at the

:07:14. > :07:18.moment does not have this problem, why would you put more forces at a

:07:19. > :07:22.time when the EU has to put extra resources in from where they are

:07:23. > :07:25.having to deal with it. Is that necessarily a naval border that

:07:26. > :07:29.you'd need to defend in the same way? The Daily Express has come up

:07:30. > :07:32.with it wonderful illustration on the second page, I don't know if we

:07:33. > :07:34.have it on our screens, it's an image of the white cliffs, and I

:07:35. > :07:45.don't know whether -- don't know where they founded.

:07:46. > :07:48.There is the lion protecting Britain... Manning the seas. There

:07:49. > :07:53.is a ship in the background. She does not look fearsome, this

:07:54. > :07:58.Britannia. She looks quite relaxed! That is why we have to protect her.

:07:59. > :08:02.It is time for the lion to roar. This headline, I think it would have

:08:03. > :08:06.a lot of people picking up the Mail on Sunday, it is a striking

:08:07. > :08:11.headline. The NHS to harvest baby 's organs, does the story live up to

:08:12. > :08:15.the headline? It is about the decision that hopefully no woman

:08:16. > :08:23.would have to go through, or parents, they baby that -- of a baby

:08:24. > :08:27.that has defects that means it is stillborn, or they have to choose to

:08:28. > :08:31.abort. If you carry on with a nine-month pregnancy, have the baby

:08:32. > :08:35.born dead, but harvest the organs. It comes at a time when you have

:08:36. > :08:42.only had 11 organs donated in two years. There is a problem for babies

:08:43. > :08:47.being born. 11? Yes, only 11 under two months have become organ donors

:08:48. > :08:56.in the last two years. However, the way it comes across, it is true. It

:08:57. > :09:00.is a medical dilemma, whether the medical capabilities are there or

:09:01. > :09:05.not. To go to full term, knowing that a child is unlikely to survive

:09:06. > :09:10.will be so severely disabled, she, the mother, and the father, they

:09:11. > :09:15.make the decision, they may have chosen an abortion instead? It is

:09:16. > :09:19.described as "Ghoulish". By Doctor Trevor Summers, of Saint Mary 's

:09:20. > :09:23.University. You do have a crisis in organ donations, I think it says

:09:24. > :09:26.that there are 7000 people in Britain currently on the list but

:09:27. > :09:30.you have three dying every day because they do not have access. For

:09:31. > :09:37.a number of reasons, people are living longer. People are not

:09:38. > :09:43.offering up organs. It raises the question of, it is, before, whether

:09:44. > :09:46.some kind of opt in, or if you are automatically in unless you opt out,

:09:47. > :09:52.that could be a better option rather than going down this route. Unless

:09:53. > :09:58.there is something particular about a baby's organs that is lacking in

:09:59. > :10:03.adults or children... They are healthy, fresh... You can see that.

:10:04. > :10:05.One of the things that is interesting... It is a hard

:10:06. > :10:10.conversation for a doctor or nurse to have with a parent. This issue

:10:11. > :10:13.would not be raised, they say, when a woman is considering abortion. It

:10:14. > :10:18.would not come into the decision-making phase, it could

:10:19. > :10:21.start that way, but what happens in five, ten or 15 years... They are

:10:22. > :10:27.making clear that no one would be obliged to do so. Equally, you can

:10:28. > :10:31.imagine parents at a vulnerable point, they must be concerned about

:10:32. > :10:34.whether there would be pressure implicitly because of the

:10:35. > :10:38.vulnerabilities. They've changed the rules so I think that previously, it

:10:39. > :10:45.was illegal for any baby to donate an organ before two months, but they

:10:46. > :10:48.are relaxing it. I think people will be talking a lot about that story

:10:49. > :10:55.tomorrow morning. I'm glad we have it on this paper review.

:10:56. > :10:59.Let's move onto The Sunday Times. Two interesting stories, on the

:11:00. > :11:07.left, this organisation that is after your money again! Yes, this

:11:08. > :11:11.is... Apparently there is a loophole of ?115 million per year of people

:11:12. > :11:16.accessing BBC programming through their iPhones and iPads through

:11:17. > :11:20.iPlayer, I frequently use it and think it is brilliant. You can use

:11:21. > :11:25.it as long as you are in the UK or are using a VPN outside of the UK...

:11:26. > :11:30.You are not supposed to do that, we will brush over it! You get access

:11:31. > :11:36.to programmes that you would only have with the TV licence, it means

:11:37. > :11:44.new legislation that means you had to buy a TV licence. The point of

:11:45. > :11:48.this is that it really makes it a subscription, how is it different to

:11:49. > :11:53.Netflix or others? I don't necessarily think it is a bad thing.

:11:54. > :11:58.It is the principal, we have to think of ways to keep it going, but

:11:59. > :12:03.more of us are turning to online programming. The TV licence concept

:12:04. > :12:09.is becoming dead in the water. Perhaps this is the way to go?

:12:10. > :12:14.Laura, will everyone sign up if they had to pay for it? We will see. I

:12:15. > :12:23.don't know, it's a general problem that we have in the newspaper

:12:24. > :12:28.industry, even... Even more than we do. If you love it, pay for it.

:12:29. > :12:32.There are people behind the scenes putting it together for you. The

:12:33. > :12:37.Telegraph does not mean you had to pay for it? You can get a lot of

:12:38. > :12:42.online stuff off of the paper's website. What about publications you

:12:43. > :12:46.write for, is it common? In the Arab world, you still don't have to pay.

:12:47. > :12:56.We are probably 10-15 years behind the UK, it is the US is even more

:12:57. > :12:59.advanced in the sense that it is further ahead. People buy carbon

:13:00. > :13:04.copy papers more than you would find here. To go back to the BBC issue,

:13:05. > :13:09.there are amazing programmes people will pay to see. We've realised it

:13:10. > :13:12.when they sell some of their programmes. Let's squeeze in one

:13:13. > :13:37.war, OMG. The! Will not be allowed. -- the exclaimation mark will stop

:13:38. > :13:41.being used. Seven-year-olds, they are not going to be allowed to be

:13:42. > :13:45.used the exclaimation mark. It would be used in the Telegraph? I don't

:13:46. > :13:52.recover the used a exclaimation mark in an article! I will keep it in my

:13:53. > :14:00.head. I will try! Thank you to both of you, we will be back in one hour.

:14:01. > :14:04.We will be back at the top of the hour with more on the decision on

:14:05. > :14:05.George Osborne to cut tax relief on pension contributions.

:14:06. > :14:30.Now, it is time for Reporters. From here in the world's newsroom,

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