:00:14. > :00:17.Hello, and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.
:00:18. > :00:19.With me are Yasmin Alibhai-Brown of the Independent,
:00:20. > :00:30.Let us have a look at the front pages.
:00:31. > :00:34.The Sunday Telegraph leads with Boris Johnson attacking
:00:35. > :00:37.what he calls David Cameron's Agents Of Fear in the EU referendum debate.
:00:38. > :00:41.Plus, a warning from the Justice Secretary Michael Gove
:00:42. > :00:44.that the "EU fuels terror and fascism".
:00:45. > :00:47.The Independent has an exclusive on what it says is a cover-up
:00:48. > :00:50.of the treatment of terror suspects in the UK.
:00:51. > :00:52.NHS to harvest babies' organs is the rather alarming headline
:00:53. > :01:00.Britannia will no longer rule the waves.
:01:01. > :01:03.And claiming the EU wants to take charge of the UK coastguard as part
:01:04. > :01:19.So, that is the selection for you. That is beginning.
:01:20. > :01:29.Yasmin, start us off. The Sunday Telegraph is going for Doris zest
:01:30. > :01:36.funerary -- Boris Johnson's fury. There is a lot going on within the
:01:37. > :01:40.Tory party and the nation. John Longworth, who is the Director
:01:41. > :01:47.General of the British Chambers of Commerce, said he personally was for
:01:48. > :01:53.Brexit and leaving the EU, and has since been suspended by the board.
:01:54. > :01:57.Boris Johnson is accusing Downing Street of orchestrating that. He
:01:58. > :02:06.goes on to say, as his side have said frequently,", dissenting voices
:02:07. > :02:12.are being crushed by the agents of project Fear, in capitals.
:02:13. > :02:16.We will come to that in the other papers.
:02:17. > :02:21.The thing is, this man is actually head of an organisation which is
:02:22. > :02:25.declaring itself neutral in the actual debate. Therefore, his
:02:26. > :02:28.comments could be seen as difficult for the Chambers of Commerce to deal
:02:29. > :02:32.with. He did say he was speaking in a
:02:33. > :02:37.personal capacity and his comments were moderate. The theme of the
:02:38. > :02:44.papers today is Tory party at war. This particular story is really
:02:45. > :02:47.about Boris Johnson having a go at number ten and vice versa, because
:02:48. > :02:52.Boris Johnson has said this has been orchestrated by them putting
:02:53. > :02:57.pressure on the board, but Number ten is vehemently deny it. You will
:02:58. > :03:01.see the Tory act war theme will come through again.
:03:02. > :03:05.To come back, the Chambers of Commerce has been neutral. In that
:03:06. > :03:12.situation, I do not think the head of it can have a personal opinion,
:03:13. > :03:18.because it is so volatile and fiery. He said it was a personal opinion
:03:19. > :03:21.and I have no reason to disagree. It is a temporary suspension until
:03:22. > :03:26.after the referendum. It is unfortunate. It is turning
:03:27. > :03:31.into a nasty campaign. If you weeks to go.
:03:32. > :03:41.It will put off people. We are not informing them. Hearing anti-EU
:03:42. > :03:46.people saying, this means we can now control our own pensions. How
:03:47. > :03:49.ignorant people about what the EU is quite what we need to give them
:03:50. > :03:54.information. These things work both ways, it can
:03:55. > :03:58.turn people to another side. A debate which will go on until June
:03:59. > :04:03.the 23rd. Three and a half months of this. Let
:04:04. > :04:10.us stick with the Sunday Telegraph and the Sunday trading story.
:04:11. > :04:15.Tory party at all as I was saying. The theme today. Two ministers have
:04:16. > :04:22.threatened to quit because the Government wants to push away with
:04:23. > :04:27.relaxing the Sunday trading. Up to 50 backbench Tory MPs may rebel. You
:04:28. > :04:32.were talking about rebelling in the ranks. I don't know whether they are
:04:33. > :04:36.rebelling because they really don't want relaxation of Sunday trading
:04:37. > :04:41.laws or whether it is a statement. It strikes me the Government looks
:04:42. > :04:46.extraordinarily weak and they will struggle to get this through.
:04:47. > :04:50.As an economist, though, looking at the whole trading law in this
:04:51. > :04:55.country anyway, would it make any difference to shopkeepers and
:04:56. > :05:05.business owners if they have relaxed hours?
:05:06. > :05:08.Inevitably. And the people who were there. The people who do the
:05:09. > :05:11.shopping, we would be very pleased. No doubt a lot of the shops would be
:05:12. > :05:13.pleased as well, especially the large shops. Whether people who work
:05:14. > :05:17.there will be so pleased is different. I do think they will find
:05:18. > :05:22.it hard to push this through. Osborne has already stood back on
:05:23. > :05:25.his pensions reform because of the implications with his party which
:05:26. > :05:32.tells you an awful lot. I want to move away from the Tory
:05:33. > :05:38.story, there is a genuine story, a lot of people feel we have pushed
:05:39. > :05:43.and pushed until shopping is our new religion. I think it is really
:05:44. > :05:47.important to rethink this. The idea we must always shocked when we want,
:05:48. > :05:53.whether people are able to work, what does it do to our lives to be
:05:54. > :05:58.forever spending money? I am becoming very Christian on this. I
:05:59. > :06:04.would like to be no shopping. As a Christian, I would like to shop
:06:05. > :06:05.on Sunday! Ladies, we are disagreeing like
:06:06. > :06:14.politicians. Michael Gove.
:06:15. > :06:17.I was going to say Tories at war. This is a security story, another
:06:18. > :06:22.twist in the EU debate. We have heard this story before.
:06:23. > :06:27.David Cameron has been saying if we leave the EU there is a terrific
:06:28. > :06:30.threat to our security. Michael Gove says if we stay, there is a terrific
:06:31. > :06:41.threat. There is fear. He has accused Europe
:06:42. > :06:45.of growing fascism. And that, he is referring back to Nazism. Here is
:06:46. > :06:51.Boris Johnson on the side of Michael Gove saying they don't like the
:06:52. > :06:56.fear, the fear mongering among the Brexit people. They fear mongering
:06:57. > :07:00.themselves. It is ridiculous. Do you think the public at large who
:07:01. > :07:04.will vote in this referendum will be getting confused?
:07:05. > :07:11.That is what I suspect. Project Fear on both sides, Michael Gove and
:07:12. > :07:17.Boris Johnson are trying to have no Project Fear. I take your point. The
:07:18. > :07:19.great British public will think, I'm going to bed for the next three
:07:20. > :07:26.months! What a lovely thought.
:07:27. > :07:30.No exclamations in the Sunday Times, what is this story?
:07:31. > :07:36.I am horrified, everything I write is full of exclamations.
:07:37. > :07:42.The new idea unless a sentence starts with the word what or how,
:07:43. > :07:46.what a lovely day, how exciting, then unless those sentences begin
:07:47. > :07:50.with those words, you cannot use an exclamation.
:07:51. > :07:55.Who will police this! Goodness only knows!
:07:56. > :08:00.The language police. It will be very confusing for teachers and for their
:08:01. > :08:06.young charges. This is absurd. This sentence that
:08:07. > :08:10.ends in an exclamation but which does not have one of the grammatical
:08:11. > :08:17.patterns shown above in this article, is not considered to be
:08:18. > :08:22.creditworthy. I do think too many people are using
:08:23. > :08:28.exclamations all the time and it can get irritating.
:08:29. > :08:34.I do that. Style wise, it is like a little shriek.
:08:35. > :08:36.Do you hear shouting when you see capitals?
:08:37. > :08:40.I see nothing wrong with it actually.
:08:41. > :08:48.Moving on to the Sunday mail, and H, NHS babies's organs.
:08:49. > :08:56.I do not find it shocking. When you look beyond the front page which is
:08:57. > :09:01.meant to be shocking, it is very, very skewed in One Direction. One
:09:02. > :09:06.can read it in different ways. Parents are given a choice when they
:09:07. > :09:09.know their baby is not viable, to either have an abortion, or have
:09:10. > :09:19.birth and the organs can be harvested. The same newspapers, when
:09:20. > :09:24.they see a real need for proper research around organs, we are the
:09:25. > :09:29.first to shout about it. I think this is well done, and people know
:09:30. > :09:36.what the tweezers. I think it is fine. We cannot get hysterical all
:09:37. > :09:40.the time about foetuses when actually we have many more deaths we
:09:41. > :09:44.are not worrying about. You are shaking your head? I find
:09:45. > :09:50.the story shocking and unbelievable, the idea some lady is told she has a
:09:51. > :09:55.deformed baby, there will be no pressure, oh, no, but imagine being
:09:56. > :10:01.in that situation. By the way, would you like to carry to full term, have
:10:02. > :10:09.a dead baby, but we can use the organs. .
:10:10. > :10:14.I don't agree. As a mother, we can't judge all mothers's feelings. Some
:10:15. > :10:18.others might feel, I can do some good. If I was a mother, I would
:10:19. > :10:25.have done it. Would you? Do think the issue is
:10:26. > :10:28.bigger. It obviously is. It highlights the shortage of available
:10:29. > :10:34.organs aesthetically for very small children.
:10:35. > :10:36.It does but this is too big a cost, my personal opinion, I was really
:10:37. > :10:44.shocked. Moving to the Observer paper. I have
:10:45. > :10:50.this, shunned by the family, snubbed, Sylvia Pankhurst is to be
:10:51. > :10:54.honoured at last, what is happening? Sylvia was the one who was the
:10:55. > :10:58.Socialist who went around saying the Lords should be cut at the knees. I
:10:59. > :11:06.think she was going to cut it down which is why they objected. The TUC
:11:07. > :11:11.and others are saying it is about time she had recognition. Which
:11:12. > :11:15.strikes me as reasonable. It won't be in the grounds of the House of
:11:16. > :11:20.Lords but in Clerkenwell Green which is quite a long way away.
:11:21. > :11:23.I am glad she is getting recognition and even more that she was a
:11:24. > :11:32.socialist like me. And an anti-racist.
:11:33. > :11:35.Shock! We have Cromwell, the Cromwell statue must imitate all the
:11:36. > :11:43.right wingers who walked by. It is our history.
:11:44. > :11:46.It doesn't irritate me. It is International women's Day
:11:47. > :11:50.coming up. I am critically pleased about this.
:11:51. > :11:54.The Pankhurst we don't really talk about. I can't you go without the
:11:55. > :12:01.big wedding. Rupert Murdoch and Jerry Hall are married.
:12:02. > :12:07.They have their blessing yesterday. What you make of it?
:12:08. > :12:11.I am very happy if she is happy. I think this is not a stupid woman,
:12:12. > :12:17.not a gullible woman. If she has decided this is what she wants, be
:12:18. > :12:22.happy, Jerry Hall, I won't be a pitch about it. Too many on Twitter
:12:23. > :12:27.are being really horrible. They are.
:12:28. > :12:32.Stop it, it is her choice. An outbreak of agreement!
:12:33. > :12:37.The first one in this session. They are both grown-ups. Not that I would
:12:38. > :12:41.point to their ages. It is up to them to make their
:12:42. > :12:46.decision. We heard phrases yesterday like two
:12:47. > :12:53.worlds colliding, the biggest power couple in the world. Are they?
:12:54. > :12:56.All people who have found love? An immensely powerful man, fourth time
:12:57. > :13:00.lucky I hope for him. It is not about that. She clearly
:13:01. > :13:06.decided she was happy with him. I think you know what? It is really
:13:07. > :13:09.hard for winning as they grow older to find someone who really loves
:13:10. > :13:14.them and takes care of them if it hasn't worked out before. If he does
:13:15. > :13:20.that, fine. I hear from some of the newspapers
:13:21. > :13:24.Mick Jagger is not happy. Tough. Then we should really
:13:25. > :13:32.celebrate this wedding. It has ruined my day.
:13:33. > :13:32.And her first engagement ring at ?2.4 million.
:13:33. > :13:34.Thank you very much for coming in. Thanks to Yasmin Alibhai-Brown
:13:35. > :13:37.and Ruth Lea. Just a reminder, we take a look
:13:38. > :13:40.at tomorrow's front pages every evening at 10:30 and 11:30,
:13:41. > :14:01.here on BBC News. Hello. There is more than a hint of
:14:02. > :14:06.winter with widespread frost last night and sharp frost on the way
:14:07. > :14:08.tonight. Some bright and crisp weather in between. Having said
:14:09. > :14:10.that, a few