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:00:00. > :00:18.That is all the sports and now, now on BBC News, here is Gavin with The

:00:19. > :00:27.Papers. Welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers. The

:00:28. > :00:32.front pages: The Sunday Times says Palace officials have conceded the

:00:33. > :00:35.Queen has been damaged by recent stories, strongly denied she favours

:00:36. > :00:40.a British exit from the European Union. The Mail on Sunday have

:00:41. > :00:46.disclosures from the new book from David Laws who describes this

:00:47. > :00:51.simmering tension between the Prime Minister and Boris Johnson and

:00:52. > :00:59.Michael Gove. The papers look to the budget with the mail saying the

:01:00. > :01:04.Chancellor is under pressure to ditch tax cuts for the well. The

:01:05. > :01:10.observer is saying this could have an effect on the EU vote. The Sunday

:01:11. > :01:20.Telegraph reports the trains on the HS2 rail scream are in danger of

:01:21. > :01:25.derailment. I'm not clear why they think the Queen has been damaged?

:01:26. > :01:32.Has it damaged her? I don't think so. We have a second, third person

:01:33. > :01:39.accounts of what she might have said. It is based on rumours. Even

:01:40. > :01:44.if she said what they said she said, which is the European Union seems to

:01:45. > :01:54.have a lot of problems and going in the wrong direction, it doesn't mean

:01:55. > :01:59.Brexit does it? When was it said? I agree with her, it is fantastic. The

:02:00. > :02:05.Palace fights to save the Queen's independence. Then you get the

:02:06. > :02:09.sourcing of it and it is a friend of somebody and somebody who had a

:02:10. > :02:18.relation who is one of the Queen's many ladies in waiting. It is based

:02:19. > :02:27.on a book which refers to a conversation three years ago, is it?

:02:28. > :02:31.The Queen had said something like a Scottish voters should think

:02:32. > :02:36.carefully before they voted. Hardly surprising! What is the opposite of

:02:37. > :02:41.that, don't think before you vote. But this goes back to the sun

:02:42. > :02:46.newspaper and Tony Gallagher. He knew what he was doing and he was

:02:47. > :02:51.reflect ding his master's voice, namely Mr Murdoch. He would know you

:02:52. > :02:56.don't report private conversations. There is a protocol, particularly

:02:57. > :03:03.strong about the Palace and the Queen herself. He chose to break it.

:03:04. > :03:10.You have said it, his master's voice. A much more interesting story

:03:11. > :03:20.is ministers sensational memoirs. Michael Gove is nuts and Horace is

:03:21. > :03:24.after my job. I love that headline. Bring back Playschool. You do want

:03:25. > :03:32.to read this story. I want to read the book. The series point is,

:03:33. > :03:37.stripped of the abuse, it looks like the Conservative Party is fighting

:03:38. > :03:41.its own civil war? It is very true. We have seen bits and pieces even

:03:42. > :03:48.without looking at this book. We have seen the tussles. It goes back

:03:49. > :03:52.to 2010, if not earlier. It has got worse as things have gone along. I

:03:53. > :03:58.think Brexit has become a point where there will be a fair amount of

:03:59. > :04:02.blood-letting. It is not going to go away. If you talk to people on the

:04:03. > :04:08.Brexit side and put to them, what happens if you lose? They say, we

:04:09. > :04:16.keep on fighting. It is a core issue of absolute belief for many people.

:04:17. > :04:21.I remember the American civil war. I wasn't personally there. But it was

:04:22. > :04:26.the Confederates afterwards, the great lost cause and it went on for

:04:27. > :04:30.the rest of the 19th century and into American politics. There are

:04:31. > :04:37.traces of it today. Remember the Confederate flag over South

:04:38. > :04:45.Carolina. Can I just say, this is desperate stuff. First of all, we

:04:46. > :04:49.have to say somebody voted to get out of the EC, as it was then. We

:04:50. > :05:00.could follow the example, Greenlands. -- Greenland. Greenland

:05:01. > :05:07.is on top of the agenda for most. Ins and outs, now is your big

:05:08. > :05:14.opportunity. I have been in clubs, pubs, railway stations and been

:05:15. > :05:19.board the decades about both sides of this argument. Now is your time,

:05:20. > :05:26.make your case. I am astonished at how badly they making it on both

:05:27. > :05:37.sides. Given the importance of it. My friend Mike Jackson, has ago. He

:05:38. > :05:41.wants to stay in? He is keen on England and southern tree. Going

:05:42. > :05:48.back to the civil war analogy, it is this article of faith, kind of like

:05:49. > :05:52.the SNP. We must keep going with Scottish independent. But going back

:05:53. > :06:02.to the civil war analogy, what happens next? Do we get

:06:03. > :06:06.reconstruction? Then is what we are doing a sudden strategy escalated

:06:07. > :06:14.and accelerated. Then the Tories talk about cutting loose everything

:06:15. > :06:20.and focusing on hanging on to southern England. The people will

:06:21. > :06:27.decide. Talking of reconstruction, if you read the Observer, Osborne

:06:28. > :06:33.tax plans will hand the money to the wealthiest. George Osborne is in

:06:34. > :06:38.this newspaper saying we are doomed. Not quite, but because of world

:06:39. > :06:42.factors, oil, the Middle East, China and dangers, all of which is

:06:43. > :06:48.generally accepted, things are looking bad this year? Yes. I am

:06:49. > :06:54.surprised he came up with this just now. Of course, he could have

:06:55. > :06:58.started warning is more clearly after the general election. They got

:06:59. > :07:06.in with a majority, a working majority, given the law which I

:07:07. > :07:10.think is rather questionable, over all things being equal, parliaments

:07:11. > :07:16.must run for five years, which is a mistake. This should have started

:07:17. > :07:19.warning as then. Going back to something related in the Mike

:07:20. > :07:24.Jackson piece, Mike Jackson says we have got to stick together as

:07:25. > :07:29.allies. Alliances work things out. The big thing he points out, which

:07:30. > :07:33.is related to the world crisis, it is the movement of people, the

:07:34. > :07:40.migration crisis is part of a world crisis. This will cost us a hell of

:07:41. > :07:45.a lot. We have had a bit too much of a sunny uplands in the preambles to

:07:46. > :07:50.budget speeches by the Chancellor. I think it will be quite a tough

:07:51. > :07:53.budget and I don't see him doing anything spectacular for two

:07:54. > :07:58.reasons, which are alluded to throughout the papers. One is just

:07:59. > :08:02.the general Brexit debate, which as you rightly say, is tearing up the

:08:03. > :08:12.Conservative Party, whatever they may say to the contrary. The other

:08:13. > :08:18.thing, he is part of the Boris, Cameron succession mix and he will

:08:19. > :08:22.not do that to spoil his chances. If you go back to the Autumn Statement,

:08:23. > :08:25.what is that about the conditions haven't changed globally that

:08:26. > :08:30.drastically. So why wasn't this flagged up then? It was a bit more

:08:31. > :08:35.optimistic in the Autumn Statement, although he did say there would

:08:36. > :08:40.cuts. I agree it should have been flagged up last May. The policies

:08:41. > :08:44.should have been put in place at that point. But having said that, I

:08:45. > :08:53.don't see how he is going to present something radical or revolutionary

:08:54. > :08:58.with Brexit pending. In terms of the gloom, Mr Osborne's gloom, he is on

:08:59. > :09:02.the button as far as... It isn't just him, the president of China

:09:03. > :09:09.says the same thing, the governor of the Bank of England, they all do it

:09:10. > :09:13.in different ways. Knowing a bit about of Mario Draghi's background,

:09:14. > :09:20.this has been a big fear that we could be in a long decline of the

:09:21. > :09:25.euro. People around him really think the euro, we are going to see it

:09:26. > :09:28.very soon, looking very unviable. The question is whether they have

:09:29. > :09:35.any more clubs in the bag to do anything about it. The Telegraph,

:09:36. > :09:44.HS2 at risk of derailing at top speed. These journalists -- research

:09:45. > :09:49.says it could go wrong. It is like the zombie movies, it cannot die. It

:09:50. > :09:57.keeps coming back. Leader-macro it is a terrible model, come on. You

:09:58. > :10:10.mean a chest to is a model? The debate. HS1 seems to be OK. But this

:10:11. > :10:17.isn't built yet. I think there is a fundamental here. The reason why,

:10:18. > :10:21.the strongest case for building HS2, you cannot fix and upgrade the

:10:22. > :10:27.existing track and use it at the same time. I know we're looking at

:10:28. > :10:32.an infrastructure that was built for a nation, or a union of nations of

:10:33. > :10:38.about 40 million at most and we're looking at a country of 70 million.

:10:39. > :10:42.Things are going wrong all over the place, gas, floods, whatever. An

:10:43. > :10:51.awful lot that is not resolved about HS2. I don't want to be, not in my

:10:52. > :10:54.backyard, but my cycling track, I go from Euston. And that controversy is

:10:55. > :11:00.roaring on. We don't have time to talk about the Heathrow Airport

:11:01. > :11:07.controversy. There's an interesting piece in the Sunday Times, Niall

:11:08. > :11:17.Ferguson. He says, President Obama tours blame on his friends while the

:11:18. > :11:24.middle east fixes cracks. As Patrick Cockburn says in the independent and

:11:25. > :11:30.what Ferguson alludes to, President Obama was having a go at American

:11:31. > :11:34.allies in the middle east. Saudi Arabia is the problem. I think we

:11:35. > :11:43.are on the same page on that, perhaps? The unquestioning support

:11:44. > :11:47.for Saudi Arabia for not just the President Obama period, but going

:11:48. > :11:52.back decades into the 40s, has been a major issue for all of us. I think

:11:53. > :11:57.we are seeing the fruits of it. But also seeing the solution of it. He

:11:58. > :12:03.is saying no blank cheque support to the Saudis. We have been talking a

:12:04. > :12:09.lot about reconstruction, the real problem in the centenary is how are

:12:10. > :12:18.we going to put this mosaic back together again? We are not. I think

:12:19. > :12:21.Niall Ferguson's column, he's pretty cunning as a journalist when he was

:12:22. > :12:30.moonlighting from Oxford. I think that comment has grown into a major

:12:31. > :12:35.important. He has always got something interesting to say about

:12:36. > :12:39.the USB. It is a compliment by the Patrick Cockburn piece. What

:12:40. > :12:44.President Obama is saying, you have all got together and you have got to

:12:45. > :12:52.sort this out. You, Europe, with the middle east powers, he is not

:12:53. > :12:58.particularly articulate, but he is a thinker, a very deep thinker. I

:12:59. > :13:01.don't think we will get as deep thinker after him whether it is

:13:02. > :13:13.Hillary or Donald Trump. Ferguson uses the metaphor, because this is a

:13:14. > :13:19.catastrophe waiting to happen. It was always built by Saddam Hussein

:13:20. > :13:22.on the cheap. People knew it. It is very difficult to maintain. US

:13:23. > :13:28.military engineers have tried to do it. But since the care of it has

:13:29. > :13:33.been difficult under Isil, if this breaks, it will flood, I have got to

:13:34. > :13:40.get it right, the Euphrates valley. It goes right down to bag dad.

:13:41. > :13:44.Attends the 1.5 million could drown. General Lloyd Austin said to the

:13:45. > :13:50.Senate this week, quoted by Ferguson, this would be a

:13:51. > :13:55.humanitarian disaster. So, says Ferguson, quite rightly, if there

:13:56. > :14:01.wasn't a humanitarian disaster anyway, nobody has a strategic view

:14:02. > :14:08.how to do with it. It needs a brain like President Obama's. It will be

:14:09. > :14:13.with us for the rest of our lifetime. Maybe it is one the

:14:14. > :14:23.President Donald Trump. Can you imagine! We are going to get

:14:24. > :14:28.President Donald Trump. One of the pieces is President Obama's motto is

:14:29. > :14:34.don't do stupid stuff. He may have to rethink that one. We may see

:14:35. > :14:38.Donald Trump recalibrating himself. Anorexia is not as says Joan Beckel.

:14:39. > :14:44.She says the rise is a sign of growing losses and self regard. What

:14:45. > :14:50.do you make of that? It is a difficult one. I am trying to be

:14:51. > :15:00.sympathetic and take into account she grew up in the war years. Really

:15:01. > :15:04.trying to pass off anorexia on narcissistic young people as I

:15:05. > :15:11.think, doing the young people quite a huge disservice. The thing about

:15:12. > :15:16.this that struck me was, what you are sort of saying is, it is your

:15:17. > :15:22.fault you are sick. Which is unfortunate, because it is an

:15:23. > :15:27.illness. Knowing the person personally, I don't think she would

:15:28. > :15:36.say that. Joan is like a head girl. To set it in context, she was laying

:15:37. > :15:43.out the sketch, she was drawing up the short list for the welcome prize

:15:44. > :15:46.but the science of the. Very, very good prize. She was musing on this

:15:47. > :15:56.thing about the obsession with diet and image. She is a grandmother, I

:15:57. > :16:01.am pretty sure. She sees this. What she is trying to say which has come

:16:02. > :16:04.out in her latest autobiographical volume is people taking charge of

:16:05. > :16:10.their own destiny. That is what she is worried about, people and sixth

:16:11. > :16:14.forms and so on. The blame culture. It is the buzzword of the day, she

:16:15. > :16:20.has fallen for it. Everyone is narcissistic. After all, what are we

:16:21. > :16:27.doing? This is an exercise in narcissism. But this idea we just

:16:28. > :16:33.got on with it and keep calm and carry on, had its moment. But I

:16:34. > :16:41.think let's say, not precisely what is needed right now. I slightly

:16:42. > :16:49.disagree. Virtues that are encouraged not active, they are

:16:50. > :16:54.intransitive or passive. Things like courage, taking responsibility,

:16:55. > :17:01.risk. We have got the compliance Nat sees all round the corner. I am

:17:02. > :17:08.about to fall over and microphone cord. I think what she is trying to

:17:09. > :17:11.say is there is a lot of truth and sends in that, perhaps it didn't

:17:12. > :17:17.come out the right way. We will get some compliance Nat sees Timmy you

:17:18. > :17:24.at the door. Thank you both. We take a look at the next day's front pages

:17:25. > :17:34.at 10:30pm and 11:30pm here on BBC News.

:17:35. > :17:39.Good morning. It was a murky start with fog and mist patches around.

:17:40. > :17:40.Those fog patches continue