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:00:00. > :00:00.Benitez got on in his first match in charge of Newcastle United, or did

:00:00. > :00:23.Leicester managed to extend their lead at the table?

:00:24. > :00:26.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

:00:27. > :00:29.With me are the broadcaster and columnist, Julia Hartley-Brewer,

:00:30. > :00:31.and the political commentator, Lance Price.

:00:32. > :00:39.The Guardian looks at how young families are struggling

:00:40. > :00:41.to afford rent and contrasts their plight with the property

:00:42. > :00:45.The Telegraph claims supporters of Britain leaving the EU

:00:46. > :00:47.are more likely to vote in the forthcoming referendum.

:00:48. > :00:49.The Mirror reports on the teenager accused of deliberately

:00:50. > :00:52.running over and killing a police officer on Merseyside last year.

:00:53. > :00:55.The Metro focuses on President Putin's decision to begin the

:00:56. > :00:58.The Mail says big firms are slashing overtime,

:00:59. > :01:00.cutting recruitment and axing staff perks to pay

:01:01. > :01:05.The Times says George Osborne is to accelerate the spending

:01:06. > :01:08.of billions of pounds on new roads, railways and housing in an effort to

:01:09. > :01:16.The Sun leads on the controversy surrounding Top Gear.

:01:17. > :01:19.And the Express warns us not to complain that we're old

:01:20. > :01:39.I'm clearly losing it. Nothing to do with the typo, it's all my fault.

:01:40. > :01:43.It's been a win-win for Mr Putin, he went in in September, pulling out

:01:44. > :01:47.six months later, Assad is still on the table has been the leader as far

:01:48. > :01:54.as peace talks are concerned. He's done it Chris Lynn yellow it's been

:01:55. > :02:09.very controversial from start to finish. What does he mean by this?

:02:10. > :02:14.That he's pulling them out? Fee is using his diplomatic skill as well

:02:15. > :02:20.as military might. -- he is. Less than a year ago he was a pariah on

:02:21. > :02:24.the international stage. Everybody feels they need to involve him, he

:02:25. > :02:29.has a key role in the peace talks in Syria and he's propped up his mate,

:02:30. > :02:33.President Assad, much to the fury of not only the Syrian opposition but

:02:34. > :02:38.also many in the West. They're clearly looking after Russian

:02:39. > :02:42.interests, he needs the military base on the net, he needs the Syrian

:02:43. > :02:49.ally, he was never going to let Assad fall, no question. My big

:02:50. > :02:55.worry is when the Western forces don't act and we are too scared to

:02:56. > :02:59.take risks ourselves after Iraq and Afghanistan. If we don't get

:03:00. > :03:02.involved then someone else will, it's Russia, and the people of

:03:03. > :03:06.Syria, they would have been better off with us. We had David Cameron

:03:07. > :03:15.decide he was going to go to Parliament, he had to go to

:03:16. > :03:18.Parliament, to get authorisation. It's a ridiculous thing to insist

:03:19. > :03:22.that is something decided by the backbench. Convention has now

:03:23. > :03:26.changed, it's become established that Parliament has to be

:03:27. > :03:31.consulted. Consulted but they shouldn't have final say. Barack

:03:32. > :03:36.Obama also felt he had to go to Congress in order to get

:03:37. > :03:39.authorisation to start launching attacks more this if Risley as far

:03:40. > :03:45.as chemical weapons potentially being used by Assad. Both those

:03:46. > :03:49.leaders decided to go to their parliaments essentially to consult

:03:50. > :03:52.their people on this, President Putin didn't have to do this, he

:03:53. > :03:57.didn't have that problem, it's easier for him. It is. Obama drew a

:03:58. > :04:01.red line and said chemical weapons are used, that's the red line,

:04:02. > :04:05.chemical weapons were used, no one doubts that, but he didn't do

:04:06. > :04:10.anything. That's because of what happened in the British Parliament.

:04:11. > :04:14.If you seriously think that America can't attack without Britain that's

:04:15. > :04:20.absurd, 75% of the military might of Nato is American, there should have

:04:21. > :04:25.been a clear message and there wasn't. Are you saying the lessons

:04:26. > :04:30.of Iraq should have been completely ignored? The lessons of Iraq were

:04:31. > :04:34.for Iraq, they went wrong but that doesn't mean you then say you don't

:04:35. > :04:38.get involved at all. A mob of innocent lives were lost in a rock,

:04:39. > :04:42.not necessarily in the war but in the many years since the insurgency

:04:43. > :04:48.-- a lot of innocent lives were lost in Iraq. But we will see more

:04:49. > :04:51.devastation in Syria now because we haven't got involved, a different

:04:52. > :04:55.lesson has been learned from Syria. We can't apply lessons from one

:04:56. > :05:01.country to another. Isn't that what happened with Libya, which is a

:05:02. > :05:06.conflict that happened in 2011 just before this. Russia, the United

:05:07. > :05:11.States, European allies got involved there, and it's a complete mess. But

:05:12. > :05:15.there was a consensus at the time supported by public opinion that it

:05:16. > :05:19.was the right thing to do. Supported by public opinion, isn't that the

:05:20. > :05:24.key thing here? That's not the best guide as to whether military action

:05:25. > :05:27.should have been taken. There were massive protests about the Iraq

:05:28. > :05:33.war, but there was a vote in parliament in favour of the Iraq

:05:34. > :05:38.war. And the British public. And the opinion polls suggested a majority

:05:39. > :05:41.was in favour. The idea that this public have a clamour to be

:05:42. > :05:48.consulted before military action is ever taken is a mistake. Putin is

:05:49. > :05:52.usually popular in his own country. Why did Cameron and Obama do that?

:05:53. > :05:58.Why didn't they just said we're going to go after this guy. Because

:05:59. > :06:01.they didn't want to get involved. There in mind the military power

:06:02. > :06:04.Assad had was different to what they are dealing with in other

:06:05. > :06:09.countries. It was quite clear that Obama didn't want to get involved.

:06:10. > :06:13.It would have been a risk. The Americans have no interest in Europe

:06:14. > :06:16.or the Middle East at all, they're turning their attention to the

:06:17. > :06:21.Pacific, they've got other things on their mind. They got involved in

:06:22. > :06:28.Libya, it strikes me that Syria is a particular... Remember Benghazi

:06:29. > :06:32.after a public statement from Gaddafi that he was going to

:06:33. > :06:39.massacre them. I'm an is involved, the Saudis are involved, Russian

:06:40. > :06:45.Mike is involved -- I'm an. Didn't that make them want to get involved

:06:46. > :06:51.-- Russian might. There are massive costs for in action. In the course

:06:52. > :06:56.of history we don't learn those lessons. We saw it in Rwanda and

:06:57. > :07:03.osmium, never again will we allow people to be massacred by their

:07:04. > :07:07.people -- Bosnia. We have sat by and watched an evil dictator massacre

:07:08. > :07:11.his people and we've done nothing. This trend of Western leaders using

:07:12. > :07:16.public opinion as an excuse for inaction. They say they can't do it

:07:17. > :07:21.because the public don't want it, but they themselves are shying away

:07:22. > :07:25.from taking the hard decisions. Exactly, it's taking the hard

:07:26. > :07:31.decision on a hard topic. Libby was an easy topic and Syria was more

:07:32. > :07:42.difficult. Politicians like low-risk decisions where they will be praise

:07:43. > :07:48.for whatever they do -- Libya. Brexit campaign has the edge? This

:07:49. > :07:51.is analysis of polling, this isn't Brexit is going to win, fingers

:07:52. > :07:56.crossed for me. This is really interesting. Who is likely to vote

:07:57. > :08:01.and how passionate do people feel about things? They are saying the

:08:02. > :08:06.people who are pro- Brexit are more passionate and more likely to vote

:08:07. > :08:09.than people who are in favour of remaining. Part of that is there

:08:10. > :08:14.more likely to be older and older people are more likely to vote by a

:08:15. > :08:18.massive factor, as we saw at the election. But it's quite difficult,

:08:19. > :08:24.I want to leave the EU, have done for some time, and I feel passionate

:08:25. > :08:29.about it, but it's difficult for the remainder camp, who are sceptical

:08:30. > :08:34.about the EU, but on balance they want to stay in -- remain. But

:08:35. > :08:41.they're not passionate. It's a shrug vote. I want some passion passion. I

:08:42. > :08:47.disagree with what Julia is saying. The people that the -- for all its

:08:48. > :08:53.faults, people recognise the function of the EU. People can

:08:54. > :08:58.easily point at the things the EU has got wrong. How long have we

:08:59. > :09:02.got? It's easy for people to pick holes in the European project,

:09:03. > :09:06.that's the easiest thing in the world, but for those that still

:09:07. > :09:08.believe fundamentally and passionately that Britain's

:09:09. > :09:14.membership of the EU has been in our interests hold that view as strongly

:09:15. > :09:19.as the Brexit people. I think the polling would show not the majority

:09:20. > :09:23.do. Not those of us on either side of the argument who have strongly

:09:24. > :09:27.held views and will argue until the cows come home, it's the voters at

:09:28. > :09:32.home who don't think about the EU and these issues every day of the

:09:33. > :09:36.week. Normal people. Sensible people. Whether or not they are

:09:37. > :09:40.going to be as easily persuaded. The real problem for the remain

:09:41. > :09:46.campaign, that I support, those wanting to stay in, is a degree of

:09:47. > :09:50.complacency. Do we look at the chaos on the Brexit side, all squabbling

:09:51. > :09:55.between themselves, we think we have the big guns on our site. If you go

:09:56. > :10:00.into a campaign with that level of complacency, that is more of a risk

:10:01. > :10:03.to the membership of the EU than the spurious idea that Brexit people are

:10:04. > :10:09.more passionate in their beliefs than we are. We will see. We will

:10:10. > :10:15.see indeed. We've got a long way to go. And I'm knackered already. I

:10:16. > :10:21.think you speak on the of the whole British people. On behalf of the

:10:22. > :10:31.whole world. Onto the Times, Mr Osborne, eight pretty big speech on

:10:32. > :10:35.Wednesday. -- a pretty big speech. I find budget stories frustrating to

:10:36. > :10:39.say the least because most of them are being briefed for a purpose, to

:10:40. > :10:45.raise expectations or low expectations. Not that you ever did

:10:46. > :10:50.that? When I went to the government we wouldn't have ever dreamt of

:10:51. > :10:54.doing that. Absolutely not. As a political editor I would never do

:10:55. > :10:59.those phone calls. No, it would be wrong. This one suggests investment

:11:00. > :11:03.in infrastructure could be a good thing. One of the dividing lines

:11:04. > :11:08.with the Labour Party has been that Mr Osborne wants to pay down the

:11:09. > :11:12.debt, although he isn't doing a very good job of that, he wants to cut

:11:13. > :11:16.public spending but he's missed his targets on that as well. Labour and

:11:17. > :11:20.John McDonnell, the Shadow Chancellor was saying on the weekend

:11:21. > :11:24.in a speech, that spending on investment, borrowing from

:11:25. > :11:28.investment is a good thing and Mr Osborne is saying more or less the

:11:29. > :11:33.same thing. We have a clear divide between left and right in politics

:11:34. > :11:37.here. Doesn't that make sense? If you're going to miss your deficit

:11:38. > :11:42.reduction target you might as well miss it because you got a load of

:11:43. > :11:50.cash in to build a school? Yes, it's all very well. It depends what you

:11:51. > :11:53.spend it on. A lot of people have a question leaving outside London

:11:54. > :11:58.spending millions on Crossrail. I live in London, it's very helpful to

:11:59. > :12:01.have a new railway line going from north to south London, but for the

:12:02. > :12:06.vast majority of people that don't live in London there is a lot of

:12:07. > :12:11.resentment for things like this. Trans-Pennine... The longest tunnel

:12:12. > :12:15.in Europe is also a problem, longest road tunnel in Europe. There's a lot

:12:16. > :12:20.more need for transport links in the northern powerhouse cities. From the

:12:21. > :12:25.east to west up north on the links are dreadful. Trains are a

:12:26. > :12:30.nightmare. The fundamental thing is housebuilding. We have millions more

:12:31. > :12:33.people but we haven't built houses. The pledges from all three parties

:12:34. > :12:37.at the general election didn't touch the size of the need we have four

:12:38. > :12:41.more houses, one of the biggest problems we face is people have

:12:42. > :12:46.massively high housing costs and we could deal with that overnight if we

:12:47. > :12:51.build houses, and it creates jobs. You make it sound so easy. It is.

:12:52. > :12:56.For the last 50 years we haven't managed to do it. We did it in the

:12:57. > :13:05.post-war years. Where there's a will there's a way. There were holes in

:13:06. > :13:08.parts of our streets after the war, they have to do something with

:13:09. > :13:11.them. There's a lot more space in this country. We have been yakking

:13:12. > :13:20.for so long. What shall we do? I think we should do Chris Evans. Why

:13:21. > :13:26.am I laughing at this one? You wonder whether the new Top Dear team

:13:27. > :13:32.are at home thinking this is a terrible story, isn't this awful? Or

:13:33. > :13:40.they are thinking we are on the front of the papers. Macro what you

:13:41. > :13:45.are too cynical. If you do a stunt at the Cenotaph on

:13:46. > :13:50.Sunday... This is a ridiculous fuss, Sunday... This is a ridiculous fuss,

:13:51. > :13:55.I can only assume it is a PR job. No one is saying we will have any issue

:13:56. > :14:02.with this whatsoever. Driving a Morris mini passed the Cenotaph is

:14:03. > :14:10.fine, driving minis and doing really is? The BBC is saying don't worry,

:14:11. > :14:16.this footage won't be shown anyway. Is not going to be shown... What a

:14:17. > :14:22.waste of our money, show it -- it's not going to be. You wrote a book on

:14:23. > :14:26.spin, you know it when you see it. Those wheels were spinning, no

:14:27. > :14:32.question about it. How long have we got, what's going on? Where are we?

:14:33. > :14:40.We've got two minutes left. I like coffee cups. Coffee cups, yeah.

:14:41. > :14:47.Julia, coffee cups? When we go and buy our coffee for ?2 50. ?2 50,

:14:48. > :14:56.you'll be lucky. Apparently all these big companies, Costa and

:14:57. > :14:59.Cathay Nero and Pret, they say they recycle their cups, if you're that

:15:00. > :15:04.obsessed with recycling you're probably not buying a takeaway

:15:05. > :15:10.cardboard cup. You buy a normal cup and reuse that. The recycling claims

:15:11. > :15:12.from a lot of places are all a bit frothy anyway. You wonder how much

:15:13. > :15:27.actually gets recycled. cardboard that has gone into making

:15:28. > :15:32.the cuts has been recycled. This is true. Rather than a promise it's

:15:33. > :15:38.going to be recycled afterwards. It is covered in this waxy stuff. I'm

:15:39. > :15:42.not sure many people going out and buying a coffee really care. These

:15:43. > :15:48.are the people that just throw their cup on the floor anyway, they don't

:15:49. > :15:52.give a monkeys about recycling, I'm speaking from personal experience. I

:15:53. > :15:55.can't let it go. It's very annoying. Little bits of crinkly

:15:56. > :16:00.cardboard that stop your fingers getting burned, that gets recycled.

:16:01. > :16:08.And I still don't care. Julia doesn't give a monkeys, folks.

:16:09. > :16:15.Things on the floor, I don't Oar do care about that. You wouldn't

:16:16. > :16:17.litter, that's very important. Will we get to the wonky dog? May be next

:16:18. > :16:31.on. Now it's time for Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday,

:16:32. > :16:34.I'm Katherine Downes.