:00:00. > :00:17.career in the fox hunters. We will also have the football and rugby.
:00:18. > :00:23.We thought we would be talking about Paris tonight and the arrest in
:00:24. > :00:30.Belgium, but no, in Duncan Smith has put paid to that. With this is a
:00:31. > :00:35.columnist from the daily Mirror and Tim Stanley, columnist for the daily
:00:36. > :00:41.Telegraph. Welcome to you both. An exciting evening. Front pages. The
:00:42. > :00:47.Telegraph leads on in Devon Smith's resignation, saying it risks from
:00:48. > :00:52.the government into disarray. The Times says he chose to resign
:00:53. > :00:56.despite a U-turn by George Osborne. The FT says in Devon Smith has
:00:57. > :00:59.inflicted serious damage on the Chancellor. The Independent has an
:01:00. > :01:03.image of the arrests in Brussels. The minister is a warning from the
:01:04. > :01:06.Welsh first Minister that an English vote to leave the European Union
:01:07. > :01:11.would prompt a constitutional crisis if the Welsh chose to remain.
:01:12. > :01:28.Carson, the headline on the Daily Mirror next to a picture of Salah
:01:29. > :01:33.Abdeslam. That begin with The Papers that God in Devon Smith on their
:01:34. > :01:38.front page in time. Cabinet minister quits over budget cut. David Smith
:01:39. > :01:41.quits after disability benefit changes. Interesting that they
:01:42. > :01:48.didn't name him because he is a big name. This happened so late in the
:01:49. > :01:53.day. Most newspapers are primping and getting ready for bed at 67
:01:54. > :01:58.o'clock. To suddenly have this kind of stuff that comes through, you
:01:59. > :02:02.have got five minutes to do an entire new leader, A column, a
:02:03. > :02:06.front-page story of 500 words and get a headline bashed out quick and
:02:07. > :02:12.get it to the printers. They have done well to get it on their front
:02:13. > :02:16.page. The significance of this and the background to it. We knew their
:02:17. > :02:22.were cuts that had been announced in the budget on Wednesday and the ones
:02:23. > :02:27.that concerned people, it seemed, were the ones that would affect
:02:28. > :02:31.some, not all, but some, people in receipt of certain disability
:02:32. > :02:37.benefits. This is a disaster for David Cameron and George Osborne. It
:02:38. > :02:44.capped a week of clock ups. It started with a budget that lacked
:02:45. > :02:50.clarity but contained a throw away proposal that was stolen from the
:02:51. > :02:54.DWP to reform benefits which people interpreted as cutting them. The
:02:55. > :02:57.next day, Nicky Morgan, said on BBC question Time that it was only a
:02:58. > :03:04.suggestion as though Parliament was a giant focus group. The next day, a
:03:05. > :03:08.person closed in Devon Smith, said she did not know what she was
:03:09. > :03:13.talking about and later that evening, but is this evening, number
:03:14. > :03:15.ten told newspapers that the entire disability benefit reform package
:03:16. > :03:21.was being kicked into the long grass. Then in Devon Smith resigned.
:03:22. > :03:26.What he said in his letter is that he is angry about two things. One is
:03:27. > :03:31.the ideas he had with welfare reform being stolen from him and put into
:03:32. > :03:35.projects which are all about cutting and, too, he does not like the
:03:36. > :03:40.impression that his welfare reform programme is part of an austerity
:03:41. > :03:44.programme that, to use his words, people perceive as political rather
:03:45. > :03:48.than in the national interest. Duncan Smith is quitting. There will
:03:49. > :03:53.be personal background to this, but he has done so in such a way that
:03:54. > :03:57.casts doubt upon the entire economic programme of George Osborne and will
:03:58. > :04:02.validate in the minds of many voters, the criticisms that Labour
:04:03. > :04:08.has made of the austerity agenda. Why not go on budget day? Why wait
:04:09. > :04:13.until today at the point at which the government is say we are not
:04:14. > :04:17.bothering? If you have a moral objection to cuts or reforms or
:04:18. > :04:24.however you reform edge permit, to welfare programmes and when you are
:04:25. > :04:26.not cutting things like state pensions, then quietly that six
:04:27. > :04:31.years until you decide it is unbearable. One of the most
:04:32. > :04:36.important things today is that there has been a court judgment on an F
:04:37. > :04:40.I/O request made to the DWP asking them to reveal some internal
:04:41. > :04:46.documents about how they assessed Universal Credit, the main reform
:04:47. > :04:52.that in Devon Smith or intimidate. He was told to release these papers
:04:53. > :04:56.three times. The third time is today and he cannot keep appealing it and
:04:57. > :05:01.refusing today. These documents, which are widely expected to show a
:05:02. > :05:07.catalogue of mistakes, are going to have to come out. You have also had
:05:08. > :05:10.the Treasury knifing Duncan Smith today over at this budget. The DWP
:05:11. > :05:15.said they were bounced into producing these figures for the
:05:16. > :05:20.budget. The Treasury and the DWP for making it part of the budget and not
:05:21. > :05:24.think that sums right and now they are rolling back and think they
:05:25. > :05:29.wanted. They have made his position untenable. You have also got to
:05:30. > :05:36.remember, this is someone who is at the centre of the Brexit debate.
:05:37. > :05:40.There is a split party here. Out of the Conservatives want in and have
:05:41. > :05:44.one vote. In Duncan Smith is against the premise to and George Osborne in
:05:45. > :05:48.this matter. Because of the disability reforms which are
:05:49. > :05:51.planned, but has provided a further reason for the party to split and
:05:52. > :05:54.there are Tory MPs saying they will not support the government honoured.
:05:55. > :05:58.It is a way of capitalising on a massive differences they have got
:05:59. > :06:04.and dividing everything thoroughly down the middle. The Telegraph have
:06:05. > :06:08.said IDS quits over fury over welfare cuts. In his statement, he
:06:09. > :06:15.said he is proud of his department and the changes to welfare that they
:06:16. > :06:18.have ushered in. Of course, huge controversy, a couple of people
:06:19. > :06:22.critical about the hardships that has brought the people who
:06:23. > :06:25.previously would have received benefits. Other people are saying it
:06:26. > :06:32.has got more people into work because work now pays. How much less
:06:33. > :06:36.likely it would he have been to have walked at this point if it were not
:06:37. > :06:42.for his views on our future in Europe? I agree with that. Because
:06:43. > :06:46.of the Brexit campaign, in Duncan Smith has somewhere to go when he
:06:47. > :06:50.quits. If he had quit and the campaign wasn't on he would have
:06:51. > :06:53.gone back to the backbenches. Now he can become a leading player in the
:06:54. > :06:57.league campaign and can devote his time to it. The complaint if you
:06:58. > :07:01.weeks ago that the civil service were not allowed access to documents
:07:02. > :07:08.which was a civil service policy. Documents related to Brexit. The
:07:09. > :07:13.defence of in Devon Smith and his record, or to try to explain how he
:07:14. > :07:16.would have said, he has regarded it as a moral thing, as being about
:07:17. > :07:20.taking people out of the trap of welfare and helping them into work.
:07:21. > :07:25.Whether you judge that is accurate or not, he argues that by taking his
:07:26. > :07:31.policies, by stealing them, and putting them into the budget, the
:07:32. > :07:34.Chancellor was reinterpreting in the public imagination, something that
:07:35. > :07:38.was supposed to help people into something that was saving money when
:07:39. > :07:42.the government cut taxes for the rich. There is also a personal
:07:43. > :07:47.dimension. I have a source who has worked with both men and says that
:07:48. > :07:52.the tension between them was extraordinary and, in fact, as he
:07:53. > :07:58.put it, curse words were thrown around in chapters which, in Tory
:07:59. > :08:06.speak, is almost like killing. There is a personal background to this. I
:08:07. > :08:11.think IDS is trying to cast this as a materialistic, libertarian
:08:12. > :08:16.Chancellor stealing his compassionate conservatism agenda
:08:17. > :08:25.and miss using it to make austerity. There is a lot of that in the
:08:26. > :08:30.budget. The stuff on academic -- academies is something that the
:08:31. > :08:33.Education Secretary should announce. Instead it was used in the budget.
:08:34. > :08:38.There were things like policies which would usually go to ministers
:08:39. > :08:43.that they have worked out, they would get credit for, go on the news
:08:44. > :08:48.to talk up and to sell and, instead, Osborne gets the glory. How much
:08:49. > :08:53.will that be a problem for George Osborne because he was talking about
:08:54. > :08:57.other cuts, I'd take that risk? This will turn into something worse than
:08:58. > :09:02.his terrible budget in the early days of the coalition because what
:09:03. > :09:06.this will show is that Osborne will find it difficult now. He has been
:09:07. > :09:09.seen for a while as the natural successor to David Cameron when he
:09:10. > :09:13.steps down and this will be difficult because if he is the
:09:14. > :09:16.person who is accused behind the scenes of stealing everyone else was
:09:17. > :09:24.macro policies, the party will not support him in pushing through to
:09:25. > :09:28.the leader ship. In Duncan Smith is not a potential leader again, he had
:09:29. > :09:32.his chance and he bled. He is outside the tent, he is very, very
:09:33. > :09:38.loose cannon and the chances of knifing Osborne, he has already
:09:39. > :09:43.knifed him today fairly thoroughly and he has blamed the Chancellor for
:09:44. > :09:46.all his problems for six years, now he will like left right and centre
:09:47. > :09:50.as part of the Brexit debate for the 15 months and the next couple of
:09:51. > :09:53.years. The Institute of fiscal studies have said further cuts would
:09:54. > :09:57.be necessary, so there will be more cuts to debate. All of this
:09:58. > :10:01.validates, I cannot believe I am saying this, John McDonald's
:10:02. > :10:04.criticism of the government which is that it insisted austerity was
:10:05. > :10:08.necessary in order to bring the deficit down and that hasn't
:10:09. > :10:12.happened. Given that it hasn't happened, either can make the
:10:13. > :10:15.argument, why don't we invest in infrastructure and now they can
:10:16. > :10:19.point to a letter by a former cabinet minister that says austerity
:10:20. > :10:23.could be interpreted as being political, rather than a necessity.
:10:24. > :10:30.This is a real winner for the Labour Party and we will see if they have
:10:31. > :10:34.got the confidence to use it. We will move on and give another story
:10:35. > :10:44.a begin tonight. We will come back to this at half past 11. World's
:10:45. > :10:49.most wanted man arrested, police finally sees the key Paris attack
:10:50. > :10:54.suspect after four months on the run. This is the 26-year-old Salah
:10:55. > :11:00.Abdeslam who, they think, might have been in the flat that they raided on
:11:01. > :11:03.Tuesday thinking the apartment was empty in another part of Belgium and
:11:04. > :11:14.now come here they were in this district very close to the centre of
:11:15. > :11:20.Brussels. Near his brother's address, which you would think they
:11:21. > :11:27.would check. This is a part of Europe where it feels like Europe is
:11:28. > :11:31.not necessarily represented. There is a gun trade there, there are
:11:32. > :11:36.large communities of Muslims, some of whom appear to have been
:11:37. > :11:41.radicalised. I just think, one thing I hope comes out of this is a --
:11:42. > :11:43.aside from punishment and retribution, which will be
:11:44. > :11:50.necessary, we could to better understand why he did this. They
:11:51. > :11:55.have got him alive. That is rare when dealing with these kinds of
:11:56. > :11:58.terrorists. As well as finding out what he knows and confirming things
:11:59. > :12:03.to Islamic State, we need to know exactly who he is working with, I
:12:04. > :12:07.really hope this will experience can contribute to public understanding
:12:08. > :12:12.of exactly why it is that young men from an immigrant background, he was
:12:13. > :12:16.from Morocco, he was not exactly destitute, he slipped in and out of
:12:17. > :12:21.petty crime, he didn't have much point in his life, why it was that
:12:22. > :12:27.he turned, and his brother turned, into terrorists. I hope that comes
:12:28. > :12:31.out of this. Five people detained today, including three members of
:12:32. > :12:36.one family who seem to have been helping him. Hugely important for
:12:37. > :12:38.Belgium because it is a strained relationship with France,
:12:39. > :12:44.suggestions the Belgian authorities had been lax in their pursuit of
:12:45. > :12:48.terrorist suspects. They got him by accident. If they went after him he
:12:49. > :12:52.would probably be dead. Belgian authorities were found to have left
:12:53. > :12:56.the guns across the border for the Charnley had the attacks at the
:12:57. > :12:59.beginning of last year. By the attacks at the end of last year they
:13:00. > :13:04.were still letting comes across the border. The Belgian police are not
:13:05. > :13:07.exactly the hottest and added to which they have been living for this
:13:08. > :13:13.man for four months and it turns out he was in the suburb he was living
:13:14. > :13:17.in beforehand and people have been saying that everyone in that area
:13:18. > :13:22.knew he was there and the police had not bothered to go down there and
:13:23. > :13:28.make someone tell them where he was. There is another assessment of this
:13:29. > :13:31.that some people thought he might have gone to Syria, other people
:13:32. > :13:35.saying no, if you want to stay hidden, you do not move around too
:13:36. > :13:42.much. You do not create waves. You keep quiet and electronic data as
:13:43. > :13:44.well. That makes sense. You will be noticed crossing borders. That is
:13:45. > :13:51.where they are looking for people. Why on earth did they not check
:13:52. > :13:57.where he had been? We know how it works. Go of grid. He seems to have
:13:58. > :14:00.done that quite well. I would be surprised if, when we look into it,
:14:01. > :14:06.we do not find that he was popping down the newsagents every morning
:14:07. > :14:11.and they should have picked him up a lot sooner. The suggestion is that
:14:12. > :14:15.he will be extradited, the French want him back to put on trial there.
:14:16. > :14:22.How easy will that be? Well Belgium not want to make an example of him?
:14:23. > :14:27.He has not committed any crimes, as far as we know, in Belgium. The main
:14:28. > :14:32.crime he is wanted for his involvement with murders in France.
:14:33. > :14:36.The French will have first chance in terms of the European wristwatch. It
:14:37. > :14:41.is amazing they have a terrorist this important alive. It shows why,
:14:42. > :14:44.going in and killing someone like Osama Bin Laden is not necessarily
:14:45. > :14:50.the best thing to do. The marker of them. It is better to have them and
:14:51. > :14:54.need to look bad. An important date for the family and friends of those
:14:55. > :14:59.who were killed. 130 people died in those attacks. That is it for The
:15:00. > :15:04.Papers this hour. Tim and Susie will be back for another look at the
:15:05. > :15:05.front pages at half past 11. Coming up next it is time for sports