20/03/2016

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:00:14. > :00:16.Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.

:00:17. > :00:17.With me are Kate Devlin, Political Correspondent

:00:18. > :00:22.and the Sunday Times Editorial Director Eleanor Mills.

:00:23. > :00:29.The Observer leads with the fallout from Iain Duncan Smith's

:00:30. > :00:33.resignation, saying the Tory party is at war.

:00:34. > :00:36.The Mail on Sunday claims the Prime Minister unleashed a four

:00:37. > :00:39.letter tirade at Mr Duncan Smith when the Work and Pensions Secretary

:00:40. > :00:42.made clear he was determined to resign.

:00:43. > :00:45.The Sunday Times focuses on what the resignation could do

:00:46. > :00:48.to George Osborne's leadership ambitions.

:00:49. > :00:50.And the Sunday Telegraph says the knives are out

:00:51. > :00:53.for the Chancellor, as he suffers what they call an "unprecedented

:00:54. > :00:59.The photograph is of the England rugby team,

:01:00. > :01:01.celebrating their Six Nations grand slam victory.

:01:02. > :01:04.The Sunday Express has a different lead, reporting that murder trials

:01:05. > :01:11.could be shown live on TV, under plans to show justice being done.

:01:12. > :01:14.And for the last ever print edition of the Independent on Sunday,

:01:15. > :01:18.the paper has the simple headline Lights Out and a special report

:01:19. > :01:34.There's plenty to talk about. Welcomer ladies. Let's start with

:01:35. > :01:42.the Sunday Times. The big story today is Iain Duncan Smith attacking

:01:43. > :01:47.George Osborne's budget as unfit. We've got a good chronological

:01:48. > :01:51.timeline of what happened and a series of increasingly acrimonious

:01:52. > :01:56.exchanges between Downing Street and IDS. I think this has been a

:01:57. > :01:59.simmering boil, Iain Duncan Smith has been getting increasingly

:02:00. > :02:05.frustrated with George Osborne. There's lots of people around and

:02:06. > :02:09.mood music about how IDS thought that for universal credit you would

:02:10. > :02:13.have to front-load it so it would cost a bit more to begin with in

:02:14. > :02:18.order to meet everyone over to the universal benefit. He's been

:02:19. > :02:25.complaining the Treasury have not been agreeing to that. The cuts to

:02:26. > :02:29.the disability benefit is the last round of an increasingly acrimonious

:02:30. > :02:34.series of salvos and he's marched out. It sounds like it got really

:02:35. > :02:38.vicious between him and David Cameron with insults flying. This

:02:39. > :02:49.thing about him being dishonourable, anyone who has ever met IDS would

:02:50. > :02:53.know that would sting. He really believes his social justice agenda.

:02:54. > :02:57.He is one of those politicians who mean something. He's not just in

:02:58. > :03:02.there for the greater glory. Read the headline in the Telegraph

:03:03. > :03:06.particularly, knives out for Osborne. It's a he says, she says.

:03:07. > :03:12.Everyone is coming out of the woodwork. It's not pleasant to

:03:13. > :03:15.watch. AB de Villiers it's not. It is instructed to remember that only

:03:16. > :03:21.a month ago the Conservatives were briefing that this is not the 1990s

:03:22. > :03:30.all over again. They were not giving to tear each other apart over

:03:31. > :03:38.Europe. Europe is in a massive row at the moment. I think they are

:03:39. > :03:44.tearing themselves out, I think this Thai rate would remind them of a

:03:45. > :03:50.similar tie rate by John Major back in the 1990s. What does this mean

:03:51. > :03:54.for the Chancellor? It's difficult at the moment. You can't

:03:55. > :03:58.underestimate how angry rank and file Tory MPs who would have been

:03:59. > :04:07.very loyal in the past are about this issue. It just seems to them

:04:08. > :04:15.such a tin ear to be cutting so much from people with disabilities. At

:04:16. > :04:21.the same time as offering a tax cut. Your paper has an interesting piece

:04:22. > :04:28.when it talks about trying to fulfil a self-imposed fiscal issue which is

:04:29. > :04:33.basically that George Osborne has said he would get a massive surplus

:04:34. > :04:42.in the budget by 2020 and he's determined to stick to that. IDS

:04:43. > :04:46.accuses Osborne of playing politics. When I was talking about IDS being

:04:47. > :04:52.an honourable politician, I think he is desperately trying to make poorer

:04:53. > :04:57.peoples lives better. He did have a real, seen conversion. Some of the

:04:58. > :05:05.commentators this morning are saying, what about... Why didn't he

:05:06. > :05:09.stick to his guns beforehand? Also, since there is no longer a

:05:10. > :05:15.coalition, is he finding it more difficult to temper what he sees as

:05:16. > :05:19.perhaps the things he doesn't like George Osborne doing. The other

:05:20. > :05:24.story around today is David laws, talking about how the government

:05:25. > :05:30.were being fishy about how much money they needed for the National

:05:31. > :05:37.Health Service. I think that's right, under the coalition IDS had a

:05:38. > :05:41.lot of support from the Lib Dems. And since they've gone it has become

:05:42. > :05:47.more difficult. I think he also really genuinely loathes George

:05:48. > :05:50.Osborne and he saw this as a point to really resign with maximum

:05:51. > :05:55.damage. How much of a big explosion can I cause as I go. We thought

:05:56. > :06:00.Osborne didn't really believe in we are all in it together, his playing

:06:01. > :06:04.politics for his own ends. In his letter where he says we're not all

:06:05. > :06:07.in this together that's very damaging to George Osborne if he's

:06:08. > :06:12.trying to look leader after the referendum. It's a sign of the

:06:13. > :06:21.danger that Osborne is in that Michael Gove has had to come out

:06:22. > :06:25.today, adding this intellectual heft to the campaign to leave the

:06:26. > :06:35.European Union. His piece in the Sunday Telegraph is so weedy. It's

:06:36. > :06:39.trying to sit on the fence. It's not a ringing endorsement of either of

:06:40. > :06:46.them. The front page of the Observer, the immoral cuts as IDS

:06:47. > :06:51.called them. That could come from Jeremy Corbyn. You can see why

:06:52. > :06:56.Cameron and people are furious. Do you think that this attack by Iain

:06:57. > :07:02.Duncan Smith, will it backfire on him, because already Ross Alterman

:07:03. > :07:13.is saying it's more about Brexit than cuts -- Ross Alterman -- Ros

:07:14. > :07:19.Altmann. She says it's all to do with the European Union. I think has

:07:20. > :07:23.well these attacks on Osborne today make it look as if it's more to do

:07:24. > :07:29.with the European Union. What happens after the votes, suggestions

:07:30. > :07:36.today there would be a leadership challenge against Cameron almost

:07:37. > :07:40.immediately after the vote. Because of a weakened Osborne. That is what

:07:41. > :07:44.the Sunday Times is saying, because this would weaken George Osborne so

:07:45. > :07:48.much that after the referendum he wouldn't have it handed over by

:07:49. > :07:58.Cameron. But there would be a leadership challenge. The real

:07:59. > :08:05.spectre is Boris. He is a fellow supporter of Brexit and on the side

:08:06. > :08:16.of IDS. Have we heard from him? He is away skiing. A really good front

:08:17. > :08:24.page on the mail on Sunday. We are moving on to the Daily Express.

:08:25. > :08:29.Cameras in court. This has been quite contentious. Even when we were

:08:30. > :08:33.at first thinking about cameras in Parliament, there's always been an

:08:34. > :08:38.issue about cameras in public places like that where public people might

:08:39. > :08:43.be seen. It's very interesting what the pilot is going to do. It is

:08:44. > :08:48.going to record, and not actually show but just record the moment, the

:08:49. > :08:53.judges comments and summing up and why he has made the decision he has.

:08:54. > :08:56.I think that is potentially an interesting way to do it. The

:08:57. > :09:01.argument has aways been, on the one hand justice has to be done and be

:09:02. > :09:07.seen to be done which is incredibly important to democracy. On the other

:09:08. > :09:11.hand, fears about sensationalism and OJ Simpson's trial but also

:09:12. > :09:14.intimidation of witnesses, to think they are going to be on camera

:09:15. > :09:18.whenever they give evidence. It sounds like they have come up with a

:09:19. > :09:24.slightly, possibly workable solution. Is it something the public

:09:25. > :09:31.would want to see? I did know if they would watch it or not. The

:09:32. > :09:35.juicy bits of trials is everyone giving evidence. I think it would be

:09:36. > :09:40.interesting for people to see what judges say which is sensible and

:09:41. > :09:47.doesn't get reported but in the media. I covered the OJ Simpson

:09:48. > :09:53.trial. It was absolutely... You couldn't move away from it. It was

:09:54. > :10:04.like the first reality TV. It's no accident that the Kardashians were

:10:05. > :10:11.born from the OJ Simpson trial. Let's move on to the times. We have

:10:12. > :10:14.this story about the abducted schoolgirls who seem to be have

:10:15. > :10:22.forgotten. These are the schoolgirls, nearly 250 schoolgirls

:10:23. > :10:28.were abducted from northern Nigeria two years ago. I sent one of our

:10:29. > :10:34.best foreign reporters back to Nigeria, for five months she has

:10:35. > :10:37.been trying to find out what's happened to them. Michelle Obama,

:10:38. > :10:41.David Cameron, everyone is saying this is a stain on the soul of the

:10:42. > :10:45.world. Michelle Obama said we have seen these girls, we would do

:10:46. > :10:50.everything we can to get them back. There is a great story that says

:10:51. > :10:53.that. They did know at various points where they were and they

:10:54. > :10:58.could have got them out and nothing has been done which I think is a

:10:59. > :11:04.massive scandal. How long did it take to do this story? Five months.

:11:05. > :11:08.This is our big investigation and I think it's a really important piece

:11:09. > :11:14.everyone should read. Why has it become the forgotten story? It's

:11:15. > :11:24.quite difficult to work out. It was such a big story at the time.

:11:25. > :11:31.Global. 6 million tweets. Every celebrity you can imagine. Then the

:11:32. > :11:38.whole thing was forgotten. This is the problem with celebrities getting

:11:39. > :11:41.involved in very serious, difficult international problems. I don't

:11:42. > :11:45.object to celebrities getting involved but I think what's awful is

:11:46. > :11:48.everyone thinks because they have sent a tweet that they've done

:11:49. > :11:53.something about it. The reality is these girls are in the jungle,

:11:54. > :11:58.married off to terrorists, being raped constantly no one is doing

:11:59. > :12:02.anything about it. If it had been someone else do you think someone

:12:03. > :12:07.would have done something about it? It would be hard to imagine if 250

:12:08. > :12:11.white British or American schoolgirls went missing two years

:12:12. > :12:15.on they would still be in that situation. Is there any sense

:12:16. > :12:19.anything is being done, that there is a re-emergence of a willingness

:12:20. > :12:26.to do something? I'm hoping our story today might have that effect.

:12:27. > :12:34.I really think this is an outrage. Another Times story, London on

:12:35. > :12:38.alert. This is really terrible. The National crime agency and the police

:12:39. > :12:44.are warning we might get a situation where simile to in Paris, we got

:12:45. > :12:49.simultaneous attacks in London. They are saying they've got the Army on

:12:50. > :12:54.stand-by and the SAS and other units to deal with a dirty bomb. It

:12:55. > :13:00.reminds us how serious the threat we face is. And the political fallout

:13:01. > :13:05.from something like that. It is a huge responsibility keeping everyone

:13:06. > :13:12.safe. You can't have 100% security. It's incredibly difficult to try and

:13:13. > :13:16.deal with this style of attack. The police were previously told to train

:13:17. > :13:22.for three happening at the same time, now they are being told to

:13:23. > :13:27.train for between seven and ten. It is basically impossible. There are

:13:28. > :13:32.shades of going back to Northern Ireland when we were growing up,

:13:33. > :13:39.when everyone, the public has to be vigilant at these times. The police

:13:40. > :13:45.can't be everywhere. Absolutely. It's easy for people to forget that.

:13:46. > :13:52.If they see a bag lying beside the road or anything like that. We all

:13:53. > :13:59.need to be vigilant. President Obama has gone to Cuba. What we make of

:14:00. > :14:03.that? I still don't know what it's going to mean. I know what it will

:14:04. > :14:10.mean for President Obama. He said he would do this in the very early

:14:11. > :14:13.stages of his presidency. It's one of the things that he's trying to

:14:14. > :14:19.take off his list. This morning there was an announcement about

:14:20. > :14:25.Hotel openings in Cuba. American hotels opening in Cuba. It looks as

:14:26. > :14:30.if there will be business investment on the back of this which in itself

:14:31. > :14:33.is very interesting. I think many questions remain about what it will

:14:34. > :14:38.actually mean in the long-term. To begin with it was going to be their

:14:39. > :14:42.would-be flights to America. I think there's been lots of trouble because

:14:43. > :14:49.lots of big European firms have been piling in, buying up the best sites

:14:50. > :14:54.and the Americans are bit cross. He is going to meet, as well as Raul

:14:55. > :15:00.Castro, the dissidents weather Raul Castro likes it or not. I think he

:15:01. > :15:09.has two. Given how many Cubans are in Florida. It is a very difficult

:15:10. > :15:15.one in terms of American politics. We have to end with the independent

:15:16. > :15:20.with a heavy heart but a fantastic front page. It's really sad it's the

:15:21. > :15:24.last ever print edition of the Independent. Run by my good friend

:15:25. > :15:29.Lisa Markwell. Really sad from a female perspective, she is one of

:15:30. > :15:34.the few female editors of a big newspaper. I think it's really sad.

:15:35. > :15:37.She has done brilliantly on a Sunday to highlight different kinds of

:15:38. > :15:42.agendas and do some fantastic writing with a tiny budget and a

:15:43. > :15:47.team of 12. It is a plucky liked going out which is sad for everyone.

:15:48. > :15:53.It is sad to see a whole title no longer on the shelf. One of their

:15:54. > :16:00.hallmark has been these very eye-catching, brave front pages. And

:16:01. > :16:06.to do with climate change. And refugees which is a subject that

:16:07. > :16:13.sometimes gets lost. Do you think we will maintain a link with it when

:16:14. > :16:17.its online? Would we be sitting here talking about it if it was only

:16:18. > :16:28.online? I do read a lot of stuff online as well. But we don't sit

:16:29. > :16:35.here talking about Buzzfeed, do we? And the thing about the mag unease,

:16:36. > :16:39.-- magazine. People love a Sunday paper. I would say that but I think

:16:40. > :16:48.it's true. How much will it be missed? I'll miss it. They are

:16:49. > :16:54.moving online, they say they are going to do the kind of stories

:16:55. > :17:00.they've always done. In terms of a physical presence, reading it on a

:17:01. > :17:05.Sunday. But Lisa Markwell and her team went be their online.

:17:06. > :17:10.Just a reminder we take a look at tomorrow's front pages every

:17:11. > :17:24.evening at 10.30 and 11.30 here on BBC News.

:17:25. > :17:28.It's the vernal equinox today, signalling for those who followed

:17:29. > :17:32.the astronomical calendar, the first day of spring.