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:00:00. > :00:13.arrive. And we join the Rangers starting to deal with poachers in

:00:14. > :00:19.central Africa in Reporters in a few minutes' time. Hello and welcome to

:00:20. > :00:25.our look ahead at what the papers will be bringing tomorrow. With us

:00:26. > :00:29.political commentator Joe Phillips and Nigel Nelson. I feel like they

:00:30. > :00:40.have presented you with the Duff set of keepers to night. -- newspapers

:00:41. > :00:44.to night. They are dominated by the resignation of Iain Duncan Smith.

:00:45. > :00:52.The FT says it has caused a wider rest. IDS twists the knife is the

:00:53. > :00:55.take of the Independent. It is described as the biggest challenge

:00:56. > :01:06.to his forehead he in the six years in Downing Street. The I called it

:01:07. > :01:14.the explosive exit of a quiet man. The i thinks it is to do with the

:01:15. > :01:20.EU. The Guardian says the Conservatives descended into civil

:01:21. > :01:26.war as a succession of MPs came out in support for Mr Duncan Smith. We

:01:27. > :01:31.will start with the Guardian. Tories plunge into open warfare, angry MPs

:01:32. > :01:36.rushed to support Duncan Smith, ex-minister attacks deeply unfair

:01:37. > :01:40.jet. I suppose what we have had since last night's papers as hemp

:01:41. > :01:47.appearing on the Andrew Marr Show today. The reason the papers are a

:01:48. > :01:50.bit dull is we have had a lot more of the same. We knew kind of the

:01:51. > :01:57.position and the row is essentially it Iain Duncan Smith quit because of

:01:58. > :02:03.welfare cuts or is the real reason to do with Europe? That has been the

:02:04. > :02:07.road all day. We started this morning with the pensions secretary

:02:08. > :02:12.saying he did, Iain Duncan Smith takes to the airwaves and says he

:02:13. > :02:16.did not and it has gone on like that throughout the day. Downing Street

:02:17. > :02:24.is view is that Europe is at the bottom of all of this. He made a

:02:25. > :02:29.defence on the Andrew Marr show this morning about how he has been wedded

:02:30. > :02:33.to the reform but has left the project before it finished. He is

:02:34. > :02:40.also the person who introduced the bedroom tax. Spare room subsidy!

:02:41. > :02:44.Sorry, I am using tabloid terms. But also he resigned over something that

:02:45. > :02:50.had been abandoned anyway. You have to say he had tests too much. I have

:02:51. > :02:59.no doubt he actually had this conversion into the light of people

:03:00. > :03:03.cycle that trapped in the cycle. He has refused to move from this

:03:04. > :03:08.position. If he was really wedded to it he would see it through. We live

:03:09. > :03:13.a timing issue about when he chose to go. He could have gone the

:03:14. > :03:19.morning of the budget. He could have gone the previous week. The policy

:03:20. > :03:23.came out, the idea about disability cuts, the previous Friday. He did

:03:24. > :03:29.not moan about it then, the budget is unveiled, he does not say a word.

:03:30. > :03:32.Gets away with Thursday, Friday morning suddenly George Osborne is

:03:33. > :03:37.thinking of getting rid of the policy in the first place and soap

:03:38. > :03:40.suddenly it seemed like he quit not because they were introducing

:03:41. > :03:44.disability cuts but because they were getting rid of them. He was

:03:45. > :03:50.losing his last chance then to go out on the high moral ground of

:03:51. > :03:56.saying we must stop these cuts. Except maybe this idea that Tories

:03:57. > :04:00.are plunging into open warfare. Good it be that on reflection he just

:04:01. > :04:05.thought I have had enough? The way we are being governed, the

:04:06. > :04:08.stranglehold the Treasury has got on several departments, she just did

:04:09. > :04:13.not want to be part of it any more? Could that be at? He could say that.

:04:14. > :04:21.He could say he wants to spend time with his family. Isn't it a bit like

:04:22. > :04:27.when Tony Benn said he was getting down as an MP? You do not send a

:04:28. > :04:31.scathing letter like he did to the Prime Minister. That letter was the

:04:32. > :04:35.most bizarre thing. He said George Osborne and the Prime Minister art

:04:36. > :04:40.palace and cool. He could have stopped yet but he then went on and

:04:41. > :04:46.twisted the knife and said the great mantra we are all in it together is

:04:47. > :04:50.actually insincere and therefore it these two are untrustworthy. That is

:04:51. > :04:53.where he brings it back to Europe again. If they are not trustworthy

:04:54. > :05:02.on this at the untrustworthy on that? You have gone on to the

:05:03. > :05:08.Independent. This is not thrown together! The said he has twisted

:05:09. > :05:16.the knife. The attack accuses the government of dividing the crackdown

:05:17. > :05:21.and PM told not to be a dictator. That brings us on to a question

:05:22. > :05:26.asked last night. Why does this matter to people who don't watch

:05:27. > :05:29.every twist and turn of the story within Westminster? What should be

:05:30. > :05:35.read into this situation that should concern us as an select it? I think

:05:36. > :05:39.what we are getting cute as a character analysis from people who

:05:40. > :05:45.leave us which is why it matters to all of us, all voters, every citizen

:05:46. > :05:49.of the country. Cameron and George Osborne affect our lives hugely. You

:05:50. > :05:53.we have someone who has worked with them very closely, a senior minister

:05:54. > :05:59.and here's saying I am not sure you can trust them, I am not sure they

:06:00. > :06:02.are sincere. It might not be true but it is his opinion. That is

:06:03. > :06:09.assuming you think he is trustworthy and sincere. The way things have in

:06:10. > :06:13.going, the idea you get that kind of thing out into the open, quality

:06:14. > :06:18.debate if you like. You could call it a debate you could call it sheer

:06:19. > :06:24.poison. This is about Europe. It is about us, too. We need to know what

:06:25. > :06:30.our leaders are up to two make our own judgment about them. This is

:06:31. > :06:36.about him deciding to put the whole schism of Europe, we are back to

:06:37. > :06:41.1992 with John Major. It is worse. We were not going to leave Europe.

:06:42. > :06:46.You have now got this and what you are seeing is this is about George

:06:47. > :06:50.Osborne and Boris Johnson. It is nothing to do with trust but about

:06:51. > :06:54.who is going to leave the Conservative Party. That is why it

:06:55. > :06:58.matters to all of us, whoever does leave the country will affect

:06:59. > :07:07.everyone of us. How lovely to have a question that one asked, answered. I

:07:08. > :07:10.will go into politics. You will not, far too honest. The Daily Express

:07:11. > :07:18.has moved us onto the subject of the referendum. To list fight to free us

:07:19. > :07:23.from Brussels. The Daily Express is in favour of an exit from the EU for

:07:24. > :07:26.Britain but how much of the boost will it be for a lot of people who

:07:27. > :07:30.are not really sure what the EU referendum is all about, what

:07:31. > :07:37.difference will it make if Iain Duncan Smith is in welfare? I think

:07:38. > :07:41.it is in grave danger of turning people off. I have heard lots of

:07:42. > :07:46.April randomly talking about are you in or are you out or whatever but

:07:47. > :07:50.this constant noise from the Westminster village actually is

:07:51. > :07:55.beginning to become quite dangerous and what will happen is people will

:07:56. > :07:59.do the usual thing and say I do not understand it or know enough about

:08:00. > :08:04.it and therefore will not take part. Even before this weekend there were

:08:05. > :08:09.people saying and asking me on Twitter, where can I find a

:08:10. > :08:14.dispassionate, unbiased examination of the facts? On the BBC News

:08:15. > :08:21.website, actually. But within the debate, all the facts, if you can

:08:22. > :08:25.call them that, about what we get from being in Europe and what are on

:08:26. > :08:31.the outside are being blurred by argument. That is right and in the

:08:32. > :08:36.debate, this applies to the campaign on both sides, it is up here

:08:37. > :08:39.somewhere. The arguing about sovereignty and security and quite

:08:40. > :08:44.academic things. They have not come down to the deal basics of it and

:08:45. > :08:51.people want to know am I better off, is my job safer, what do we do about

:08:52. > :08:54.migration? These are the kind of issues and the campaigns because

:08:55. > :08:58.they already think we have that argument they have gone to something

:08:59. > :09:04.esoteric and it is leaving people behind. That is where you come back

:09:05. > :09:09.again to Iain Duncan Smith, that is why it matters, this is about Europe

:09:10. > :09:15.so you are going to end up with an even more debt and divisive

:09:16. > :09:20.argument. The Guardian is looking at the potential costs. According to

:09:21. > :09:29.the CBI saying Brexit could cost 100 Lyon pounds and nearly 1 million

:09:30. > :09:34.jobs. How have they worked that out? -- ?100 million. That is what we

:09:35. > :09:39.have been talking about. They have done analysis by price what are

:09:40. > :09:45.housed coopers, respected people, but everyone on every side will come

:09:46. > :09:52.up with Paul fear and analysis you. We have said before when they first

:09:53. > :09:57.announced it, there does need to be somewhere where this is what it will

:09:58. > :10:06.mean. This is not about real people. They are talking about it could cost

:10:07. > :10:11.?100 billion, may be. It could cost 10p! It is ridiculous, we do not

:10:12. > :10:16.know, the band a huge figures like this around but let's get down to

:10:17. > :10:19.what is in the pool 's pockets, the homes, the jobs, they are not doing

:10:20. > :10:25.that. This is the level of the debate. You are right it needs to

:10:26. > :10:29.come down to the high Street, what does it mean to you, depending on

:10:30. > :10:33.what job you do and where you work is your job going to be harder, it

:10:34. > :10:40.will it be more expensive to do stuff and go out? Some people

:10:41. > :10:44.individually will be better off by being out of Europe and some people

:10:45. > :10:50.will be better off I being in. Those people need to know who they are. At

:10:51. > :10:54.least they have got it out onto the economy which is what it should be

:10:55. > :11:01.about instead of a very unpleasant debate. Cabinet ministers quitting?

:11:02. > :11:05.And am pleasant debate about ministers quitting and refugees.

:11:06. > :11:11.That is when it becomes nasty. Migration is still a big issue.

:11:12. > :11:16.Let's go to have an up with the banners. History in Havana says the

:11:17. > :11:23.Huffington Post showing us eight picture of Barack and Michelle Obama

:11:24. > :11:28.arriving in the rain, sadly, in the Cuban capital for this historic

:11:29. > :11:33.visit. Hugely significant even if they do not decide on much and do

:11:34. > :11:38.not talk about human rights. It was 1928 apparently when Calvin Coolidge

:11:39. > :11:44.was the last American president who arrived on a battleship. Not by

:11:45. > :11:50.Lane. The force one suddenly touches down in Havana. I think the Banner

:11:51. > :11:58.probably has had the dubious edge npower and this will probably be

:11:59. > :12:05.quite important. It is symbolic. We sought deals yesterday with American

:12:06. > :12:09.hotel company is going in the. I am sure people will say it will become

:12:10. > :12:14.sanitised, like Miami, all those beautiful buildings and stuff but it

:12:15. > :12:18.has got to be better for the human Rees. A lot of the buildings are

:12:19. > :12:24.falling down in Havana? The word here is symbolic. Not a lot is going

:12:25. > :12:28.to happen but the mere fact it is happening is hugely important

:12:29. > :12:33.because they can build on it. The distrust they have two over, after

:12:34. > :12:38.all these years. This is the start. It has taken 88 years to get the.

:12:39. > :12:46.And if you wait until neither Castro or his brother at around you are

:12:47. > :12:50.starting something else. He has introduced if they can social

:12:51. > :12:53.reforms so people can run spot businesses for example. And things

:12:54. > :12:59.like telecoms and scheduled airlines and stuff like that so it is moving.

:13:00. > :13:04.It is an amazing is place. If you ever get a chance to go... For the

:13:05. > :13:10.moment the Financial Times, again it is connected to the EU. Rolls-Royce

:13:11. > :13:17.to create 350 Derby jobs as fears rise over at shift to Germany. This

:13:18. > :13:21.is to send the right kind of signal that the company is doing something

:13:22. > :13:27.here. This is terrifically good news for jobs in Derby, not the thousands

:13:28. > :13:30.they would hope for. Around 8000 people work for Rolls-Royce in Derby

:13:31. > :13:36.and it is being expanded because they'd is an increase in demand and

:13:37. > :13:48.production of the Airbus 1850 wide bodied jet. Did I sound convincing?

:13:49. > :13:53.You showed me you could read! There is concern that there was a test-bed

:13:54. > :13:58.that was partly funded by the German government, that it might go back to

:13:59. > :14:01.Germany and up course what the Derby plant really wants is the commitment

:14:02. > :14:06.they will be the test-bed for the next stage of this. Is there an

:14:07. > :14:13.implication that if written were not in the EU... ? These are the sorts

:14:14. > :14:19.of deals that will go on whether we are in or out. The geography is

:14:20. > :14:24.irrelevant? I do not think it is irrelevant but it both sides sleep

:14:25. > :14:28.on it as this is the advantage of being in Europe, we still get it

:14:29. > :14:34.whether we are in out, if this is all going on while are arguing about

:14:35. > :14:37.Europe, Q we have some corporation between us and Germany and it shows

:14:38. > :14:42.life does go on despite the referendum debate. The German

:14:43. > :14:50.government would take the money away if they bring it back to Germany.

:14:51. > :14:57.That is as from the papers in this hour. You can send us a tweet. Use

:14:58. > :15:04.the hashtag BBC papers. Add 11 we will have more on President Obama's

:15:05. > :15:15.historic visit to Huber. Coming up next, Reporters.