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:00:00. > :00:00.around. When the showers long they could be heavy with some hail and

:00:00. > :00:16.plunder. -- thunder. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

:00:17. > :00:20.to what the papers will be With me are Jason Beattie,

:00:21. > :00:25.who's the Political Editor at the Daily Mirror

:00:26. > :00:27.and the journalist and Let's have a quick look

:00:28. > :00:33.at tomorrow's front pages. The Guardian reports on links

:00:34. > :00:35.between the suspected Brussels bombers and November's

:00:36. > :00:41.attacks in Paris. The Express warns there could be

:00:42. > :00:44.more than 300 potential jihadist The Metro carries news

:00:45. > :00:52.of a panicking note apparently left on a computer by one

:00:53. > :00:56.of the Brussels suspects. The Telegraph quotes a former head

:00:57. > :00:59.of MI6 saying that leaving the EU could help improve

:01:00. > :01:02.Britain's security. The Independent laments a tragedy

:01:03. > :01:10.of errors by the Belgian authorities which meant they missed chances

:01:11. > :01:12.to stop yesterday's attacks. The Times also focuses on those

:01:13. > :01:15.intelligence failings, saying Turkey warned that one

:01:16. > :01:17.of the bombers was a suspected terrorist after deporting him back

:01:18. > :01:20.to Belgium last year. Meanwhile, the FT leads on fears

:01:21. > :01:39.that the referendum on the EU We will discuss the front pages over

:01:40. > :01:43.the next 15 minutes or so. Jason, the front of the Independent, a

:01:44. > :01:52.tragedy of errors? This extraordinary photo on the front of

:01:53. > :01:57.the crowds in Belgium showing great defiance, but sadness and morning.

:01:58. > :02:02.This outpouring of grief and the message of solidarity, that they

:02:03. > :02:06.start looking at how did this happen. Finding there were a lot of

:02:07. > :02:13.errors by the Belgium Security service. They have had quite a lot

:02:14. > :02:18.of success in other areas, but it looks like this time there were

:02:19. > :02:27.failures. And the president of Turkey has said, we found this

:02:28. > :02:30.guide, we returned him, and we alerted the Belgian authorities.

:02:31. > :02:37.They failed to pick him up. It is a They failed to pick him up. It is a

:02:38. > :02:41.huge embarrassment. And talk on the front of the Independent of Interpol

:02:42. > :02:48.knowing about at least one of these individuals as well? Yes, Brahim

:02:49. > :02:54.el-Bakraoui, one of the brothers. There was an Interpol red notice for

:02:55. > :02:59.him and on the 14th of July the Turks let the Dutch and Belgian

:03:00. > :03:04.authorities know he had come back. The problem is, there are many

:03:05. > :03:08.security services in Europe and if people come back from Turkey and

:03:09. > :03:12.Syria and they haven't been able to find anything tangible on them as

:03:13. > :03:15.being involved in terrorist training, is it guilty by

:03:16. > :03:22.association? This is one of those times they missed what their

:03:23. > :03:28.connections are. They did have links to the Paris attacks. They were

:03:29. > :03:33.known, it wasn't like the two brothers were unknown to

:03:34. > :03:38.authorities. They were note and they slip through. Crowds gathered, as

:03:39. > :03:47.they have done all day lighting candles. This is becoming a pattern

:03:48. > :03:53.we don't want to see, but we saw it after Charlie Hebdo, and we saw it

:03:54. > :03:57.again in November after the Paris attacks. It is something we will

:03:58. > :04:01.also have to get used to. Also moving increasingly now, stories of

:04:02. > :04:08.the victims and the Guardian carries some of those on its front page?

:04:09. > :04:12.This is a picture of one of the victims, a chef who is going to New

:04:13. > :04:15.York, there with her husband and twin daughters. The only reason they

:04:16. > :04:21.survived because the little girls wandered away to play off and their

:04:22. > :04:25.father had followed them. Unfortunately their mother was

:04:26. > :04:31.killed. 31 victims, their names are slowly coming out. It is important

:04:32. > :04:36.to give more attention on the victims, instead of the terrorists.

:04:37. > :04:44.They want to be notorious and have everybody feeling fear. This picture

:04:45. > :04:52.of a beautiful woman and her spirits coming through our important. We are

:04:53. > :04:54.not just focusing on the criminals. I am a newspaper man and I have

:04:55. > :05:01.covered a lot of these events. I covered a lot of these events. I

:05:02. > :05:05.hate to admit it, there is look at the number, how many people have

:05:06. > :05:09.died, how big a catastrophe and tragedy is it rushed Jamaat that is

:05:10. > :05:15.sometimes how we have two thing. The next thing is to find the human

:05:16. > :05:21.story, which brings it home and the tragedy. You can have a better

:05:22. > :05:26.understanding of the sheer horror behind it. The other thing that

:05:27. > :05:31.strikes me about this prove Ian woman and her family, is this

:05:32. > :05:38.element of extraordinary chance that exist in life, where something as a

:05:39. > :05:41.very, very mundane as two little children running off to play

:05:42. > :05:47.somewhere else in an airport departure lounge, turns out to be a

:05:48. > :05:53.matter as to whether you live or die. We have attacks like this

:05:54. > :05:59.happening in Iraq, in Syria and Turkey just recently. It is people

:06:00. > :06:04.surviving by chance. They almost have this edge, if I act and to be

:06:05. > :06:10.there, it will be my lucky day and if it turns out to be my lucky day,

:06:11. > :06:14.I get away with it. It is this randomness. She is up Ruby, married

:06:15. > :06:20.to a Belgian, at the airport to go and see sister in America. You

:06:21. > :06:24.suddenly realise we are a much smaller world. We are an

:06:25. > :06:27.international world. These random attacks, they are not just in one

:06:28. > :06:34.country, they affect lives everywhere. Jason, two stories in

:06:35. > :06:40.the Telegraph, go to the security scanning story. Passengers could

:06:41. > :06:49.face security scanners at airport doors? We have a problem, at the

:06:50. > :06:53.moment Airports are initially open, you drop off your loved ones and

:06:54. > :07:01.then you go through security before you board the flight. Obviously what

:07:02. > :07:08.happened in Zaventem airport, they were able to walk in before any

:07:09. > :07:12.security. The difficult for any government is they have to balance

:07:13. > :07:20.the disruption to everyday life. They have to consider, do we

:07:21. > :07:24.actually bring in such security that the terrorists have won, with the

:07:25. > :07:31.need to protect lives. It is a difficult decision. There is a good

:07:32. > :07:34.case at somewhere like an airport to have the security at the beginning

:07:35. > :07:38.rather than halfway through. But the problem with that, you will have a

:07:39. > :07:43.queue outside the front door. Several airports around the world do

:07:44. > :07:48.do this and you have to scan your bags before you even get to the

:07:49. > :07:52.airport. The problem is, what do you do at Metro stations? You had a

:07:53. > :07:56.large number of victims from the bombing at the Metro station. Can

:07:57. > :08:00.you imagine if we had to deal with that that the underground and rush

:08:01. > :08:06.hour here if you had to go to scanners? You have to be able to get

:08:07. > :08:12.these cells uncovered before it gets that far. At the time the bomb is

:08:13. > :08:16.that close, people will die even if it is not inside. The other

:08:17. > :08:22.Telegraph story, quitting the EU would help our security. This is the

:08:23. > :08:27.former MI6 chief, effectively bringing the EU debate into this

:08:28. > :08:31.area? This is a very political stance to take. This is about the

:08:32. > :08:36.debate before the referendum. We have three months to go before the

:08:37. > :08:45.referendum about exiting the EU. And this thing where we would have

:08:46. > :08:50.stronger controls. The Great Britain is not part of Schengen, and we do

:08:51. > :08:54.have a border because we are an island. There are security checks.

:08:55. > :08:58.His argument is it with the more secure. You will not stop the free

:08:59. > :09:03.movement of people and we cannot afford to do that. Trade and the

:09:04. > :09:09.political reality we are part of Europe, even if not part of the EU.

:09:10. > :09:16.He said it with BB ability to jump the European Convention on human

:09:17. > :09:22.rights and the difficulty in extraditing Abu Hamza. It is an

:09:23. > :09:25.interesting take on this. These comments have made me question the

:09:26. > :09:33.intelligence of the intelligence chiefs. One of the disadvantages

:09:34. > :09:37.possibly as we would have to get rid of the European arrest warrant, the

:09:38. > :09:43.international agreement so you can extradite a criminal. Few would

:09:44. > :09:51.notice its passing. About 100 people a year, including a dozen terrorist

:09:52. > :09:56.suspects from other European countries under the European arrest

:09:57. > :10:04.warrant. The former head of MI6 to say if you would notice its passing,

:10:05. > :10:10.I find incomprehensible. The Metro, a quote from one of the suicide

:10:11. > :10:18.bombers, Jason? Seems to be a message left to his mother. It was

:10:19. > :10:26.on his laptop found at the last moment. I am struggling with what to

:10:27. > :10:31.think about it. It shows he was obviously in a disturbed state, but

:10:32. > :10:38.he was willing to blow himself up. I suppose it is panicking before the

:10:39. > :10:42.event, but it goes back to what you said before about concentrating more

:10:43. > :10:48.on the victims and not on those who did it? Yes, you read these notes,

:10:49. > :10:54.but it is hard to know what the motivation is to leave it on a

:10:55. > :10:59.laptop. Does he know it is going to be found. It is like he is in a

:11:00. > :11:05.hurry and doesn't know what to do. This is the express front page. 300

:11:06. > :11:10.jihadists on our streets. This is a reference to the security concerns

:11:11. > :11:14.that are real here as well. Yes, intelligence coming in from European

:11:15. > :11:23.intelligence services, but also from Iraq, saying there are 300 or close

:11:24. > :11:30.to 400 that have come back to the UK and could potentially pose a

:11:31. > :11:33.terrorist threats. It says 300 jihadists on the streets, but nobody

:11:34. > :11:39.knows if they are the watch. You would assume they are on some sort

:11:40. > :11:43.of watch list and I assume now there will be more follow-up after what

:11:44. > :11:48.has happened. The issue is, those who have gone to fight and then come

:11:49. > :11:58.back. What happens? Probably a little bit alarmist. We do know the

:11:59. > :12:06.last ones who have gone a comeback, do pose a risk. I'm not sure all the

:12:07. > :12:11.300 who have returned do. What do we do to stop radicalisation, how do we

:12:12. > :12:17.stop young minds being twisted by this, what is a poison. Nothing to

:12:18. > :12:22.do with Islam, but it is a much more difficult issue. We are going to

:12:23. > :12:29.change the subject. Stop refunding victims of online fraud, the banks

:12:30. > :12:36.are being told. It is an interesting idea. Sir Bernard Hogan Howe, head

:12:37. > :12:43.of the Met. People are becoming lazy. Not updating their security,

:12:44. > :12:52.control on their computers and they are allowing themselves to be

:12:53. > :12:56.conned. The banks are making it too relaxed and we need to amend

:12:57. > :13:02.behaviour. I can see the argument behind it. If a bank does decide it

:13:03. > :13:09.is no longer going to give refunds for fraud and they could lose a

:13:10. > :13:13.competitive advantage. People should update anti-virus software and make

:13:14. > :13:19.sure passwords are up today. There were 3 million cases of fraud but

:13:20. > :13:24.only 9000 convictions. It shows you how widespread this is and maybe

:13:25. > :13:32.something like stronger passwords can reduce the threat. That is it

:13:33. > :13:37.from us tonight. Before you go, while we have been on air, several

:13:38. > :13:42.others have come in. There is the daily Mirror, the two British

:13:43. > :13:44.students convicted of plotting drive-by student is inspired by

:13:45. > :13:50.so-called Islamic state to kill soldiers, police officers and

:13:51. > :13:56.civilians in London. The Daily Mail is Kent Police stop lorry with 26

:13:57. > :14:11.migrants inside. All of the pages are online where you can read a

:14:12. > :14:13.detailed review of the papers. Thank you to my guests. Good buy.