:00:17. > :00:20.Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be
:00:21. > :00:23.With me are the Times Columnist Tim Montgomerie,
:00:24. > :00:28.and John Kampfner, the CEO of the Creative Industries Federation.
:00:29. > :00:39.Tomorrow's front pages, starting with warnings over
:00:40. > :00:44.Guardian lead with Brexit dangers. They say it could increase mortgage
:00:45. > :00:56.costs. Warnings over buy-to-let and a
:00:57. > :01:02.extraordinary picture of a man posing with the man who allegedly
:01:03. > :01:06.hijacked the flight today. The times has that photo again, leading with
:01:07. > :01:10.what hay call a clamp-down on buy-to-let mortgage, the Sun has
:01:11. > :01:16.that photo of that man, the paper reports him saying he is not sure
:01:17. > :01:21.why he posed for the photo. Britain in the EU is the main story
:01:22. > :01:26.for the Daily Mail. It says more than 1.6 million migrants moved to
:01:27. > :01:30.the UK in less than a decade. And the Express leads with the
:01:31. > :01:37.referendum debate. It claims that UK benefits are being spent on what it
:01:38. > :01:44.calls palaces in Romania. And Metro carries allegation about
:01:45. > :01:50.the singer Elton John, claims he vehemently denies. And New Day
:01:51. > :01:52.reports a call to put qualified teachers in every children's
:01:53. > :01:57.nursery. So, there we are. Those are the
:01:58. > :02:02.front-page, Tim and John, welcome. Let us kick off with that photo,
:02:03. > :02:05.Tim, that is in the Telegraph, one of the more extraordinary photos on
:02:06. > :02:10.the front-page I have seen in the last few weeks or months. It is
:02:11. > :02:15.extraordinary, and you know, we can only presume that by the time this
:02:16. > :02:21.photo was taken he realised that this suicide vest was a fake, it. It
:02:22. > :02:25.is prominent on his stomach there. You would think you would be at
:02:26. > :02:30.least be angry, that this guy had forced you to have this frightening
:02:31. > :02:36.experience and you are... He has a big grin on his face. Extraordinary
:02:37. > :02:39.grin. A cheesy grin, we were working out before, it couldn't be a selfie
:02:40. > :02:44.because nobody is taking the picture, who took the picture? Was
:02:45. > :02:50.it a member of the cabin crew or another passenger? Will he put it in
:02:51. > :02:57.his holiday album. I don't think I have ever seen anything quite as
:02:58. > :03:01.bonkers as that, and, it is incredibly humour aside, to go
:03:02. > :03:07.through an Orr deal like that in the times we are live, after Brussels,
:03:08. > :03:14.Paris and everything else, and somebody gets on a plane, with a
:03:15. > :03:19.suicide vest, threatening to blow it up, leaving aside the security risks
:03:20. > :03:25.and all that and you survive but your travel plans are completely
:03:26. > :03:29.screwed up by it, then, you know, to find some purported humour. A lot of
:03:30. > :03:33.questions at the end of the day. The day started with everybody thinking
:03:34. > :03:39.this was a terrifying incident but didn't turn out to be quit as bad as
:03:40. > :03:43.we thought. A lot of questions for Egyptian security. This was a fake,
:03:44. > :03:47.but still to walk through even with a fake suicide vest is
:03:48. > :03:51.extraordinary. Huge amounts of money have been put into try and
:03:52. > :03:56.strengthen Egyptian airport security, following the Downing of
:03:57. > :04:01.the Russian jet. There are stories in the paperers today saying VIP,
:04:02. > :04:05.big chooses in Egyptian society still refuse to be checked an the
:04:06. > :04:09.security officers continue feel confident enough to challenge them.
:04:10. > :04:15.They feel they might be fired o their jobs are at risk, you can't
:04:16. > :04:21.have security unless everybody is check I don't think this is a fake,
:04:22. > :04:25.there weren't explosive, this wouldn't have been triggered by
:04:26. > :04:29.normal security. This is concerning an unstable man was able to pull
:04:30. > :04:34.this off. The times are leading with what is going to be the big story,
:04:35. > :04:40.the Tata Steel closure, we are hearing this is from union source,
:04:41. > :04:44.that Tata Steel are going o close their UK operations and that is
:04:45. > :04:49.4,000 jobs. It is too late for most of The Papers to do with it
:04:50. > :04:55.prominence. The Times have it up at the top. Well done. That is why I
:04:56. > :05:01.asked you about it. When I used to do The Papers with Beth... I will
:05:02. > :05:09.give you a fiver later. I mean, if you look at it in, in sort of broad
:05:10. > :05:13.sweep historical terms, it is you know our steel industry was small,
:05:14. > :05:19.and getting smaller still, almost sort of you know tiny sort of, you
:05:20. > :05:28.know tokens of of what used to be a great industry. That said, according
:05:29. > :05:33.to what I read about it before the unions backed by local MPs and
:05:34. > :05:39.others were saying, all that was needed was some sort of two-year
:05:40. > :05:46.stay, and the big issue, whether it is a UK Government issue, and much
:05:47. > :05:52.criticism of Sajid Javid for not intervening or whether it is an EU
:05:53. > :05:58.issue, the refusal of Governments not to do anything about Chinese
:05:59. > :06:00.dump, you don't need to sound protectionist to protect an industry
:06:01. > :06:05.that appeared to be run itself pretty well. There is this now mouse
:06:06. > :06:11.glut of Chinese steel. Is there anything that any Government can do
:06:12. > :06:15.about that? Well of course, the people tonight in Port Talbot who
:06:16. > :06:21.are worried about their future, your heart goes out to them. Them. Tata
:06:22. > :06:26.were losing ?300 million a year, they have done almost everything
:06:27. > :06:31.they could do to save this plant. So every taxpayer in Britain, every
:06:32. > :06:35.voter in Britain has to say is that the best use of ?300 million? It
:06:36. > :06:39.could go to hospital, roads, school, it could go to train a new
:06:40. > :06:45.generation of people in the industries that we will be employing
:06:46. > :06:48.people in. John McDonnell suggested renationalisation of the British
:06:49. > :06:53.Steel industry? If they are willing to pay that cost, and impose that on
:06:54. > :06:58.other industry, deny it to other public service, there is always a
:06:59. > :07:02.cost for doing these things and in the 1970s we subsidised car
:07:03. > :07:06.industries, and all sorts of declining industry, and
:07:07. > :07:10.unfortunately, it is not the natural advantage now of advanced economies
:07:11. > :07:15.like Britain to compete with lower waged economies in other pars of the
:07:16. > :07:19.world. We have to invest in the industries of for, where educated
:07:20. > :07:24.workforces are the key, creative industries and that is our future,
:07:25. > :07:28.unfortunately. Let us have a look a the Express, that I have got their
:07:29. > :07:33.angle on it on page two, is that it is the European Union that have left
:07:34. > :07:41.steel jobs under threat, you sense there, you know, in the run-up to
:07:42. > :07:45.the referendum campaign... The Express, in particular, they don't
:07:46. > :07:53.let any opportunity to slag off the EU, and go past them. Literally on
:07:54. > :07:57.any day of the week you could find many anti-EU stories somewhere. If
:07:58. > :08:01.someone's cat ran away it would be the fault of the EU commission.
:08:02. > :08:08.There was much more of a sense of criticism you were reading in other
:08:09. > :08:13.papers many month'sing a, of George Osborne and the Treasury o Mondays
:08:14. > :08:18.ago. In the terms of some of The Papers kowtowing to China and not
:08:19. > :08:24.making the case more vigorously. There was that period late last year
:08:25. > :08:28.when he was in in China and the Chinese President was here, amid
:08:29. > :08:34.huge fanfare for the state visit, almost, it was please buy up any of
:08:35. > :08:38.our state asset, we will flog our utility, railways, whatever. In a
:08:39. > :08:43.way other countries don't do. Since we have moved on the Brexit or the
:08:44. > :08:49.referendum campaign, any way. Let us talk about the Guardian's lead story
:08:50. > :08:56.which is a Bank of England committee warning about an issue a warning
:08:57. > :09:01.over Brexit, Brexit danger, bank issues stark warnings. I think I
:09:02. > :09:07.think on Sunday the Health Secretary said the NHS would be in crisis, we
:09:08. > :09:11.had Nicky Morgan talking about a lost generation. I think this is
:09:12. > :09:15.twaddle. This is scaremongering, this is better to the the people who
:09:16. > :09:19.want to stay in the European Union. I think the Bank of England will be
:09:20. > :09:24.sown by more people as dispassionate, more independent
:09:25. > :09:29.minded. Not part of Project Fear. Contactually. I think there is a
:09:30. > :09:34.scepticism about the financial sector, big bank, the city issuing
:09:35. > :09:38.warnings, people think it is self-serving, lots of people
:09:39. > :09:42.remember how the CBI I and banks said if Britain didn't join the euro
:09:43. > :09:46.it would be a disaster, we were fortunate to stay out of that
:09:47. > :09:53.unemployment creating machines, but this will be, this will be a helpful
:09:54. > :09:58.on the margins. Do you think people will end up confuse by the
:09:59. > :10:03.statistics from the two sides? I mean, I mean, the phrase, a vote to
:10:04. > :10:07.leave risks causing a run on sterling, a end cred it crunch and
:10:08. > :10:11.higher interest rates for mortgage payers and businesses, if that
:10:12. > :10:15.message gets through, more than Tim was sayings, some of the more
:10:16. > :10:22.generalise phrase, if it comes down to the pocket book as the Americans
:10:23. > :10:30.would say, and people strongly believe it, then it will have an
:10:31. > :10:35.impact on the result. To me, what is interesting, is that the remain
:10:36. > :10:39.campaign very rarely make the positive case. There is always a
:10:40. > :10:43.double negative at the moment, if we leave terrible things will happen,
:10:44. > :10:48.and that may be true, but I also think, I am strongly in favour of
:10:49. > :10:52.staying, and I think there are positive cases to be made but the
:10:53. > :10:56.Government and the in campaign appears to have lost its mojo. We
:10:57. > :11:01.haven't got time to go through the positive sides so we will talk about
:11:02. > :11:04.the FT. There is another angle on the Brexit debate, is that the Bank
:11:05. > :11:08.of America are saying this is a word that can't be used by their senior
:11:09. > :11:15.staff when they are talking to clients. We saw, when the Scottish
:11:16. > :11:18.referendum result was so close, some big corporate companies intervened
:11:19. > :11:25.to try and argue for Scotland to say in the UK, and they got burned by
:11:26. > :11:29.it. A lot of you know, enthusiastic Scottish Nationalists recented that
:11:30. > :11:35.a company they were willing to shop at would take this view. People see
:11:36. > :11:39.how divided the country is, the opinion polls are 50-50, banks,
:11:40. > :11:44.investors, shops don't want to get on the wrong side of the public,
:11:45. > :11:49.and... So they are being more careful. This is causing
:11:50. > :11:53.consternation in Downing Street, the fact that big blue chip companies
:11:54. > :11:56.are not coming out and they are not saying what Downing Street suspects
:11:57. > :12:03.they believe, which is leaving would be dangerous, and they are hedging
:12:04. > :12:09.their bets, in that classic way that companies do. If banks like this
:12:10. > :12:13.don't make the case or more importantly, if companies and others
:12:14. > :12:17.don't make the care, either to employees, or more broadly, if they
:12:18. > :12:22.believe that to be the case, then I think it is really... It is less
:12:23. > :12:29.powerful thing than it was. Goldman Sachs is one of the most hated
:12:30. > :12:33.industries the country. It doesn't help in the way it would have done
:12:34. > :12:39.10, 20 years ago. Let us look at the FT. This is to do with Donald
:12:40. > :12:46.Trump's campaign, campaign manager being charged with battery after he
:12:47. > :12:50.was supposed to have grabbed a female reporter, I am not sure what
:12:51. > :12:54.it show, that is him supposedly grappling with her, you spent a lot
:12:55. > :13:00.time in America at the moment. Is this going to damage Donald Trump's
:13:01. > :13:04.campaign? He has criticised the war hero John McCain for getting
:13:05. > :13:10.captured. He has mocked a disabled New York Times reporter. He has made
:13:11. > :13:14.some incredibly misogynistic remarks, this is his campaign
:13:15. > :13:21.manager lied about he said he didn't touch this female reporter, he
:13:22. > :13:27.clearly did. Have good independent headline. He has been Teflon up to
:13:28. > :13:31.now, he has got away with things, even one would have sung a
:13:32. > :13:36.conventional candidate. I would hope it would damage him but I am not
:13:37. > :13:41.making prediction. Less than a man to go, if he is nominated will he,
:13:42. > :13:49.has he got a chance of beating Hillary Clinton? He has a chance,
:13:50. > :13:56.she is a row bo tech uninspiring candidate. He is so vulgar, he is so
:13:57. > :14:00.extreme in some of his view, his anti-Muslim, I don't think that will
:14:01. > :14:07.appeal to most Americans. Do you think trump could win? Rationale
:14:08. > :14:12.politics is losing out to irrational politics, whether it is on the right
:14:13. > :14:18.or left. Populist candidates who defy all the rules, are the ones who
:14:19. > :14:23.appear to be prevailing everywhere, so logic suggests he's won't win,
:14:24. > :14:28.but who can predict with certainty. That is hedging your bets.
:14:29. > :14:32.I know who I want to win, that is another matter. Many thanks to both
:14:33. > :14:37.of you, we have run out of time. That is it for the paper, before you
:14:38. > :14:41.go, we have got some other front pains that have come in while we
:14:42. > :14:44.have been talking. Let us show you those quickly.
:14:45. > :15:14.And the Daily Mirror with the claim against Elton John.
:15:15. > :15:22.He says he will fight tooth and nail. All the front-pages are online
:15:23. > :15:39.on the BBC News website where you can read a detailed review.
:15:40. > :15:41.Thank you to John and Tim, that is it from us, good night.