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:00:18. > :00:21.And they say we are always late. Not tonight!

:00:22. > :00:24.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers

:00:25. > :00:27.With me are Ben Chu, economics editor at the Independent,

:00:28. > :00:30.and Charlie Wells, European features reporter at the Wall Street Journal.

:00:31. > :00:33.Welcome to you both. Tomorrow's front pages, let's make a start.

:00:34. > :00:36.The Financial Times leads with remarks made by President Obama

:00:37. > :00:40.that if Britain left the EU it would send the UK to the 'back

:00:41. > :00:49.The i quotes the President during his trip to London saying

:00:50. > :00:51.Britain is on it's own if it leaves the European Union.

:00:52. > :00:53.The Guardian writes Mr Obama defended his intervention

:00:54. > :01:03.in UK affairs because the country 'needs to know'.

:01:04. > :01:06.THE TIMES FEATURES THAT STORY AS WELL.

:01:07. > :01:09.The Express says the American has been condemned

:01:10. > :01:11.by pro-Brexit campaigners for trying to 'blackmail' Britain

:01:12. > :01:15.The Mail headlines that Tony Blair's firm was paid ?5.3

:01:16. > :01:21.a year to help a dictator in Kazakhstan.

:01:22. > :01:24.The Mirror has an exclusive with a woman who says

:01:25. > :01:26.she was the next planned victim of teenager James Fairweather,

:01:27. > :01:32.who was convicted today of double murder in Guildford.

:01:33. > :01:45.Quite a lot on oh Barr on the front pages tonight. -- on Obama. The

:01:46. > :01:51.Times's headline is Brexit will leave Britain at the back of the

:01:52. > :01:57.queue. Rebuke the Johnson over Kenyan jibe. I will show you what

:01:58. > :02:02.they started the evening with and then quickly changed. It has been an

:02:03. > :02:06.extraordinary day, where politicians in this country feel able to be

:02:07. > :02:11.quite rude about the sitting American president. Yes, Hail To the

:02:12. > :02:16.chief if you are on the remain campaign and get out of the town,

:02:17. > :02:21.who do you think you are if you are on the Leave campaign. He has come

:02:22. > :02:24.over and rained on the Leave campaign's central premise. They

:02:25. > :02:28.said if we leave the EU it is fine from a trade point of view, we will

:02:29. > :02:32.do another deal with America and the rest of the world and it will be

:02:33. > :02:36.fine. He says that is just a fantasy. If you leave the EU, don't

:02:37. > :02:42.imagine we would do a quick deal, you are at the back of the queue. He

:02:43. > :02:46.really scotched that idea it would be quick and easy to carry on

:02:47. > :02:50.trading. We might not get a trade deal quickly, but there probably

:02:51. > :02:55.would be one, he's just saying it would be very quick. The idea

:02:56. > :02:59.Britain and the US wouldn't carry on trading is probably far-fetched as

:03:00. > :03:06.well, isn't it? In a sense but I think he is giving a very rational

:03:07. > :03:10.view. They want to negotiate with a large economies that will benefit

:03:11. > :03:16.the United States. The other issue here is president. If the US create

:03:17. > :03:19.a bilateral trade agreement with one country, other countries around the

:03:20. > :03:23.world will start thinking, why don't I do one-on-one deal with the United

:03:24. > :03:29.States? That might work better for me. The US don't want out. Let me

:03:30. > :03:38.gesture you on camera three... Thank you. This is what the Times looks

:03:39. > :03:42.like a short while ago. It said Obama trades blows on EU. I cannot

:03:43. > :03:49.decide what is the tougher headline. It was people like the justice

:03:50. > :03:51.minister and Boris Johnson being quite insulting towards the

:03:52. > :03:57.president. Well that even resonate with him? I think Barack Obama is

:03:58. > :04:03.used in attacks. He has been used to dealing with a very hostile

:04:04. > :04:07.environment in Washington, DC over seven years, both with Democrats and

:04:08. > :04:11.Republicans attacking him. I think this will probably feel like a light

:04:12. > :04:17.British spring rain. How much more candid do you think Barack Obama was

:04:18. > :04:22.compared to how we might have been? Some commentators in the States has

:04:23. > :04:25.said he went a bit off script, which is probably what David Cameron was

:04:26. > :04:29.pleased to hear. I am sure he was the lighted. I don't think he was

:04:30. > :04:34.holding back much, but at the same time, personally I think it is a

:04:35. > :04:41.perfectly reasonable thing to say. He is saying what he thinks his

:04:42. > :04:46.country would do if Britain was out of the EU. It is a policy statement.

:04:47. > :04:50.He has very carefully hedged around what he saw and that it was for the

:04:51. > :04:56.British people to decide but that was his view. I think Dominic Grabb

:04:57. > :05:07.has said he is a lame duck president. That... Not very

:05:08. > :05:09.respectful. But it is to some extent something that was always on about

:05:10. > :05:16.presidents as they were nearing the end of their term. The thing Boris

:05:17. > :05:19.Johnson did about being half Kenyan, tribal grievances... That is worse

:05:20. > :05:24.and that is why people are saying it is dog whistle-stop. As Charlie

:05:25. > :05:28.knows very well, in the US there is this long-standing smear that he is

:05:29. > :05:33.not really American. That he has foreign roots and so on. Boris

:05:34. > :05:37.Johnson seems to be piggybacking off that to discredit the strong message

:05:38. > :05:41.she has come over with. Out of the two, Boris Johnson is the one to get

:05:42. > :05:48.hot under the collar about. The Daily Express had it as well, the

:05:49. > :05:52.threat scaremongering over EU exit. We know the Daily Express has thrown

:05:53. > :05:58.its weight behind the Leave campaign. I think threat is a strong

:05:59. > :06:02.word here. Having seen the press conference I would refer to it more

:06:03. > :06:08.as a warning. There has been a lot of Twitter activity on this. A lot

:06:09. > :06:11.of people and angry about President Obama imposing his opinion on this.

:06:12. > :06:18.What is important to remember is he was responding to arguments being

:06:19. > :06:21.made from the Leave campaign. A response is not necessarily a

:06:22. > :06:26.threat. Maybe something he didn't respond to with this argument that

:06:27. > :06:31.the United States wouldn't cede sovereignty to anybody else. So why

:06:32. > :06:38.would the United States be arguing Britain should remain in an

:06:39. > :06:41.organisation, in a club, the EU, which has meant in some peoples

:06:42. > :06:46.views we have ceded sovereignty to Brussels? Boris Johnson said that

:06:47. > :06:50.was hypocritical, and in a lot of ways it is. How can you tell them

:06:51. > :06:54.and do something you wouldn't do? But I think something important to

:06:55. > :06:58.note is the United States and the United Kingdom are in very different

:06:59. > :07:03.geographical locations and geopolitical contacts. And so maybe

:07:04. > :07:08.they would need to form different relationships with different

:07:09. > :07:13.institutions. Although there is Nato to consider, and the United Nations?

:07:14. > :07:17.Yes. And the US has ceded sovereignty because it is part of

:07:18. > :07:23.Nato and has this mutual defence arrangement and is part of the UN.

:07:24. > :07:27.So it is not entirely true, as Boris Johnson said, that the United States

:07:28. > :07:34.never cede sovereignty. But the other point is, this issue of

:07:35. > :07:37.sovereignty, you cede some sovereignty to get some power and

:07:38. > :07:41.authority in the world, it is a trade-off. It is not let's give it

:07:42. > :07:45.up and get nothing back. That is a point that should be registered in

:07:46. > :07:49.all these debates. Magnification is a word he used. Yes, you can achieve

:07:50. > :07:53.more. That was one of the central point is President Obama was making.

:07:54. > :07:57.We want a strong UK because we want their influence in the EU to get

:07:58. > :08:00.things done. We're weeks and weeks away from the vote so one wonders

:08:01. > :08:10.what difference Barack Obama has said today makes. It will be a slow

:08:11. > :08:14.build-up to that late June vote. Perhaps Angela Merkel has more

:08:15. > :08:18.influence on UK voters than Barack Obama. It will be small incremental

:08:19. > :08:28.steps that influence people. A quick look at the FT which says it would

:08:29. > :08:33.send the UK back to the trade queue. A picture of David Cameron and

:08:34. > :08:36.Barack Obama meeting. We spoke about the special relationship and how

:08:37. > :08:43.special it is. Winston Churchill has a lot to answer for. It is

:08:44. > :08:46.interesting, the word Q. Is it an American word? Charlie said it is

:08:47. > :08:51.not, he said they would they back of the line. This has led to some

:08:52. > :08:56.suggestions words were put in the President's mouth by Downing Cameron

:08:57. > :09:00.and given away by the choice of language. But he knew who he was

:09:01. > :09:08.talking to, his audience? That is right. You would say queue wouldn't

:09:09. > :09:15.you? I would. Omission scandal sparks mass recall. We all know

:09:16. > :09:18.about the trials and tribulations of Volkswagen at it is not just

:09:19. > :09:22.confined to them? This story has been around for with Volkswagen and

:09:23. > :09:27.a drip is getting worse. There was always a suspicion, was it just

:09:28. > :09:32.Volkswagen or were other car-makers involved? The rumours were everyone

:09:33. > :09:38.was at it and it does seem it is a much, much bigger scandal than

:09:39. > :09:45.originally thought half a year ago. Mitsubishi is involved in a probe. I

:09:46. > :09:50.do like the word probe. Normal people don't use it. They are being

:09:51. > :09:59.investigated by the Department of Justice in America. The upshot is

:10:00. > :10:02.there is an enormous recall, 630,000 vehicles which these car-makers are

:10:03. > :10:08.prepared to take back because there may be something dodgy about these

:10:09. > :10:12.cars, in terms of their missions. There has been a separate recall

:10:13. > :10:15.announcement today from Diack riser. This is nothing to do with the

:10:16. > :10:20.omission scandal but the fact they seem to roll away as soon as you get

:10:21. > :10:30.out of the car, which is not ideal. -- emissions. No, not ideal.

:10:31. > :10:37.Recalling 1.1 million cars and mid-size SUVs. Saying they give

:10:38. > :10:42.shifters may confuse drivers. That was done better if you read it. But

:10:43. > :10:47.a huge problem. And the issue of trust, the damage to the brand? The

:10:48. > :10:55.global auto industry is facing huge challenge, especially with. The way

:10:56. > :11:00.young people are thinking about transportation is fundamentally

:11:01. > :11:08.changing. These bad PR revelations are adding to it. Why are government

:11:09. > :11:13.regulated test so bad? Why were they before not picking up on these

:11:14. > :11:20.emissions? There were claims that some of the emissions problems have

:11:21. > :11:25.been overlooked in Europe, weren't there? It seemed very murky who knew

:11:26. > :11:32.what and when. I think the line is they knew what the tests were and

:11:33. > :11:36.they knew what bits of software or whatever to get under the bar that

:11:37. > :11:40.was being set that maybe wasn't being policed as there is clear that

:11:41. > :11:43.could have been and there was a nod and wink between regulators and the

:11:44. > :11:47.car-makers and that is why you got this huge scandal building up over

:11:48. > :11:51.many years until it exploded. It all has to come out. This is not one

:11:52. > :11:57.that will end, it will go on. And take a long time to put right.

:11:58. > :12:03.Moving onto page eight of the Mail. Mass migration is damaging Britain.

:12:04. > :12:07.This is a leaked report which reveals, says the paper, civil

:12:08. > :12:11.servants concern at EU in flux. What is it saying in particular?

:12:12. > :12:15.Essentially it is saying well-educated people from Eastern

:12:16. > :12:19.Europe are coming to the United Kingdom and are benefiting from

:12:20. > :12:26.employment, benefiting from employment goods and that the

:12:27. > :12:31.average Brits are losing out on this. A lot of these European

:12:32. > :12:35.migrants are very well-educated but working in low skilled jobs. But you

:12:36. > :12:40.get in work benefits currently, which is what David Cameron has

:12:41. > :12:43.tried to address? That's right. It is a strange document because it

:12:44. > :12:48.tells us exactly what we already knew. It talks about the numbers at

:12:49. > :12:53.EU migrants who have come in over the past year, which is in every

:12:54. > :12:58.office for National statistics jobs report. It tells what the plans to

:12:59. > :13:03.tackle that are in terms of government strategy. We know that

:13:04. > :13:06.because David Cameron has told us on numerous occasions, wants to curb

:13:07. > :13:11.the accessed in work benefits. As far as I can see there is nothing in

:13:12. > :13:16.this which isn't in the public domain already. And there is a quote

:13:17. > :13:24.from a DUP source saying these are the facts in the public domain. It

:13:25. > :13:27.is dressing up an internal report as a big revelation, when there isn't

:13:28. > :13:33.anything we didn't know. I think the context is interesting, because the

:13:34. > :13:37.Leaves campaign, and I think the Daily Mail could be considered to be

:13:38. > :13:41.in that camp, wants to get the story away from this awkward trade stuff

:13:42. > :13:44.of Obama and back onto their strong suit, which is people don't like the

:13:45. > :13:48.amount of immigration coming from the EU. These kind of stories is

:13:49. > :13:53.where they want to move the debate too, because this is where the

:13:54. > :13:56.public concerns are. It is another report, even if it tells us

:13:57. > :14:01.something we already know or suspected, that helps the Brexit

:14:02. > :14:06.campaign? It underlines and says it is not just politicians and yet but

:14:07. > :14:18.civil servants? Absolutely. And touching on this emotion there are

:14:19. > :14:20.disenfranchised, low income people perhaps not from London but all

:14:21. > :14:23.parts of the UK who are still struggling to find jobs. What is

:14:24. > :14:26.being done to help those people? It is an incredibly complicated

:14:27. > :14:34.picture. Let's finish with a rather complicated story over three

:14:35. > :14:41.columns. British troops in Libya will be Isis targets. Why is this a

:14:42. > :14:45.pertinent story? It is pertinent because they are going back into

:14:46. > :14:50.Libya. This idea that Libya is a complete mess. Something President

:14:51. > :14:53.Obama was talking about not long ago and blaming David Cameron along with

:14:54. > :14:59.others for taking their eye off the ball. Saying they hadn't done their

:15:00. > :15:05.bit. Yes. There is a drive to stabilise this key country in North

:15:06. > :15:10.Africa. The proposal is there will be British logistics and training

:15:11. > :15:15.people on the ground. That is all? Yes. But what is in this Times

:15:16. > :15:22.report is some distinguished former military guys like Lord West, the

:15:23. > :15:25.first Sea Lord and General Jackson are saying, hang on, let's be very

:15:26. > :15:31.careful about this. If we put troops on the ground, even if they are not

:15:32. > :15:35.combat troops, they could be easily targeted by IS, we know are

:15:36. > :15:40.operating in the country. It is trepidation from top brass about

:15:41. > :15:45.what we are quietly going into here. And some quotes from Libyans,

:15:46. > :15:50.politicians in particular, who you wonder if they want these troops

:15:51. > :15:54.there? Yes, and a very chaotic situation in Libya. A number of

:15:55. > :15:58.competing militias trying to establish power. Something else that

:15:59. > :16:02.is interesting is Iraq is mentioned in the third line of the story.

:16:03. > :16:06.Hopefully we can assume a lot of the government figures here are may be

:16:07. > :16:13.learning from the lessons that they made in Iraq. And another point on

:16:14. > :16:16.the relevance of this story is numbers the government have been

:16:17. > :16:22.talking about, Libya being a direct threat to the UK. After Paris and

:16:23. > :16:28.Brussels there is this idea that it needs to be stabilised. And a lot of

:16:29. > :16:34.people leave Africa from Libyans shores and make their way across the

:16:35. > :16:38.most incredibly dangerous journeys, large stretches of the

:16:39. > :16:42.Mediterranean? Absolutely. It is a complete mess. There is no central

:16:43. > :16:47.government. Thereafter actions fighting. And as you say, a

:16:48. > :16:50.destabilising force, not just the North Africa but for Europe as well.

:16:51. > :16:55.I am sure that is exactly why they are trying to address it very late

:16:56. > :17:00.in the day. What is the American involvement question we heard in

:17:01. > :17:05.March that criticism of the foreign policy Ben mentioned by Barack Obama

:17:06. > :17:11.rev David Cameron which the White House... Not pushed under the carpet

:17:12. > :17:16.but changed the complexion of? Distanced themselves from. David

:17:17. > :17:20.Cameron, President Obama and Angela Merkel will be meeting in Germany

:17:21. > :17:24.this week to talk about these plans. I think we will learn a bit more

:17:25. > :17:31.about what these leaders have in store. That is all we have time for.

:17:32. > :17:36.Thank you both very much for coming in. Don't forget, all the papers are

:17:37. > :17:46.online where you can read a detailed review of the papers.

:17:47. > :17:49.You can see us there too - with each night's edition

:17:50. > :17:51.of The Papers being posted on the page shortly

:17:52. > :18:02.Coming up next, a look at the weather.

:18:03. > :18:08.Good evening. Another day of contrasting weather conditions. For

:18:09. > :18:13.the third day in a road north west Wales saw some of the best weather.

:18:14. > :18:14.Just look at this beautiful picture to illustrate a