07/05/2016

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:00:13. > :00:15.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:16. > :00:19.With me are Anne Ashworth, Assistant Editor of The Times

:00:20. > :00:21.and The Evening Standard's columnist Mihir Bose.

:00:22. > :00:28.Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...

:00:29. > :00:31.The new Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has written in tomorrow's Observer

:00:32. > :00:34.claiming the Conservative tactics in the campaign were "straight out

:00:35. > :00:39.The main picture shows the Leicester City players lifting

:00:40. > :00:45.The Independent online says the Shadow Chancellor,

:00:46. > :00:47.John McDonnell, is calling on Labour to support

:00:48. > :00:55.Two former heads of MI5 and MI6 have told the Sunday Times that leaving

:00:56. > :00:57.the European Union could undermine the UK's "ability to protect

:00:58. > :01:06.The Telegraph reports on new figures which the paper claims show schools

:01:07. > :01:15.in the UK are under increasing pressure because of EU migration.

:01:16. > :01:18.According to the Mail on Sunday, a navy officer who trained in the UK

:01:19. > :01:23.has fled to Syria to join so-called Islamic State.

:01:24. > :01:26."Dignity For Diana At last" is the main headline in the Express,

:01:27. > :01:29.with news that her grave at Althrop House is to

:01:30. > :01:49.We are starting with the Sunday Times. More on the Brexit debate.

:01:50. > :01:55.This time it is spy chiefs weighing into the debate. The ex-MI5 and MI6

:01:56. > :01:59.spy chiefs have colourfully said that if we leave the EU it would be

:02:00. > :02:04.like a father leaving the wife and children behind. I am not sure we

:02:05. > :02:13.see ourselves as the father of the EU, but, nevertheless, quite

:02:14. > :02:16.interesting. What they are saying is we cooperate, coordinate security

:02:17. > :02:21.information about what is happening in various parts of the world and

:02:22. > :02:25.that we will not be able to do. The other point they make is that they

:02:26. > :02:29.were not coached by Downing Street to say this, they have independently

:02:30. > :02:35.come up with the idea that they we are the father of the EU and we

:02:36. > :02:41.shouldn't be doing this. So remain and we stay safe is the message. The

:02:42. > :02:45.tone is very interesting. In the first weeks of the campaign we had

:02:46. > :02:50.many figures thrown at us about how much worse or better off we would be

:02:51. > :02:57.in or out. Now it is almost becoming an emotional campaign and that we

:02:58. > :03:02.are going to feel the EU as a family in which we have all got a stake. It

:03:03. > :03:07.seems as if there is going to be a lot of speeches in the week coming

:03:08. > :03:14.up with Boris apparently being unleashed to travel the country in a

:03:15. > :03:19.bus. I suppose it has to be a Boris pass. It seems as though maybe those

:03:20. > :03:27.figures that were being thrown at us like we would be 4,000 or ?5,000

:03:28. > :03:32.better off in or out have not been persuading people and maybe we need

:03:33. > :03:37.to feel a great sense of security in the heart of the family that is the

:03:38. > :03:43.EU. It is an interesting analogy. Royal Family work for people? I am

:03:44. > :03:49.surprised that the people who wanted us to remain have not contacted

:03:50. > :03:54.cloud you run the area! You as an Italian have come to this country

:03:55. > :04:00.because of the EU and you couldn't have done that without the EU and

:04:01. > :04:06.the free movement of labour. Get the Leicester City fans on board! Let's

:04:07. > :04:09.stay with the Brexit. The Sunday Telegraph are focusing on education,

:04:10. > :04:15.saying that the influx of migrant families are putting schools under

:04:16. > :04:19.huge pressure. In this paper, which seems to have sat somewhere in the

:04:20. > :04:22.House of Commons and not been made freely available until it was

:04:23. > :04:29.discovered by the Sunday Telegraph, this massive pressure on schools

:04:30. > :04:34.with children coming here, 700,000 new pupils for whom there are a lot

:04:35. > :04:38.of schools, and also because English is not the first language, it

:04:39. > :04:45.requires the schools to lay on English classes. Again, it is a new

:04:46. > :04:53.kind of fronts in the EU for, this idea that maybe we are too many, we

:04:54. > :04:56.are uncomfortably overcrowded on this island and that could be one of

:04:57. > :05:02.the main thrust of the argument coming up. This is where the

:05:03. > :05:06.emotional thing will come in. I believe this referendum will be

:05:07. > :05:10.decided on a motion. What this argument is about we have lost our

:05:11. > :05:15.country, we have allowed too many people to come in, we are a small

:05:16. > :05:19.island and look what it is going to do to our schools and future

:05:20. > :05:25.generations, which you will be able to properly. If this is presented it

:05:26. > :05:29.would be quite an appealing argument. I am not endorsing it, but

:05:30. > :05:33.it could be quite an appealing argument, trying to integrate these

:05:34. > :05:40.people live, teach them English and things like that. As you mentioned,

:05:41. > :05:44.the paper was quietly released and hopefully buried in an election

:05:45. > :05:49.week, and they think much will be made, the people who want us to

:05:50. > :05:55.leave will make much of this argument. That point about hearts

:05:56. > :05:59.and minds is interesting. A lot of the narrative seems to be that a lot

:06:00. > :06:05.of people will not make up their minds until the last minute and it

:06:06. > :06:10.will be a cut moment. When I went to vote on Thursday for the elections

:06:11. > :06:15.for the Mary-Anne Monckton, I got the impression that a lot of people

:06:16. > :06:23.get the pencil in the hands and then they almost make up their mind in

:06:24. > :06:26.the booth. It will B in those last hours that this battle is won and

:06:27. > :06:31.all of those figures thrown at us will be white noise. Most people

:06:32. > :06:35.just get on with their lives and are not intensely involved in political

:06:36. > :06:45.debate. Let's return to the Sunday Times. From... This is all about

:06:46. > :06:51.Jeremy Corbyn jetting off on holiday, allegedly. This follows on

:06:52. > :07:01.from Sadik Khan winning in London. He did not call to his inauguration.

:07:02. > :07:08.-- Sadiq Khan. He is going on holiday for ten days. If the people

:07:09. > :07:11.who want to remain are going to win, then Jeremy Corbyn has got to lead

:07:12. > :07:16.the Labour Party into this. He seems to give the impression he doesn't

:07:17. > :07:22.much care about it. He cares about not being involved. He has not led

:07:23. > :07:27.the campaign so far. Is he really committed to it? Going back several

:07:28. > :07:32.years he was a backbench MP he often voted against EU measures. He is

:07:33. > :07:39.giving the impression that he has not got his heart in this campaign.

:07:40. > :07:52.Do we need to another Brexit type word? It is too much fun! Is the

:07:53. > :08:00.tone of this piece, how very dare he? Maybe he is just going to try to

:08:01. > :08:04.get away from it all! I think there is this feeling that Jeremy Corbyn

:08:05. > :08:08.isn't really up for the job. Forget about his ideas, but he often gives

:08:09. > :08:14.the impression of being a leader caught in the headlights. It is like

:08:15. > :08:18.he has been told to manage a football team never having managed

:08:19. > :08:22.one before. His supporters would take we are seeing too many of these

:08:23. > :08:28.articles trying to undermine him. The front of the observer is all

:08:29. > :08:37.about Sadiq Khan's piece inside the observer in which he talks about the

:08:38. > :08:42.plans used during the London mayoral election and likens those plans to

:08:43. > :08:45.those of Donald Trump. On social media, this whole piece is not

:08:46. > :08:55.playing as an attack on Jeremy Corbyn. It is a very interesting way

:08:56. > :09:01.the uneasy feelings among many of the Labour Party about Jeremy Corbyn

:09:02. > :09:06.are being tired. You can read what Sadiq Khan rights as an attack both

:09:07. > :09:12.on the Ed Miliband regime and that of Jeremy Corbyn. Sadiq Khan is

:09:13. > :09:18.Colin Ford laboured to get together, to pull together as one, to think as

:09:19. > :09:22.one Dundee United. That is not surprising because this election,

:09:23. > :09:26.before the results, or meant to be a referendum on Jeremy Corbyn. The

:09:27. > :09:32.expectation was that the results would be very bad. Some Labour MPs

:09:33. > :09:39.were planning at two, had been reported. Now they can do that. The

:09:40. > :09:43.hard-core of Labour MPs who refuse to believe that Jeremy Corbyn could

:09:44. > :09:48.be a leader that would take them to number ten. I think this argument

:09:49. > :09:53.will go on. Sadiq Khan's article is about saying I have managed to win,

:09:54. > :09:56.I am one of the few successes you have had on the selection and they

:09:57. > :10:01.did it cause I appeal to everyone, Labour has to be a broad church, it

:10:02. > :10:07.can be an narrow political party which believes in only one

:10:08. > :10:11.philosophy. So a call to unity from Sadiq Khan. It is interesting that

:10:12. > :10:16.as you said, the line that the observer have died of what he said

:10:17. > :10:21.is this attack on Zac Goldsmith, using fear and innuendo to turn

:10:22. > :10:27.religious and ethnic groups against each other. That seems to be the

:10:28. > :10:32.accepted view of how the campaign was run. Zac Goldsmith's Sister

:10:33. > :10:37.thinks so. I would love to know what Zac Goldsmith things himself. If he

:10:38. > :10:41.is thinking he wishes he could have done it otherwise. This attack on

:10:42. > :10:46.Sadiq Khan does not seem to have played well. Zac Goldsmith give the

:10:47. > :10:49.impression that he didn't want to do it. He often give the impression

:10:50. > :10:54.that he was questioned about Sadiq Khan's alleged extremism that he did

:10:55. > :11:02.not believe in the attack, he had been tutored to have to set. The

:11:03. > :11:06.point about the attack, OK, Sadiq Khan to been on platforms with

:11:07. > :11:09.people you shouldn't have been, but the point about the attack is

:11:10. > :11:14.attacking him as a human rights lawyer defending people who are

:11:15. > :11:18.accused of all sorts of crimes. Surely in our system you defend

:11:19. > :11:22.people whatever crimes they are accused of. You can't blame the

:11:23. > :11:26.lawyer fitting that unless of course the lawyer says he sympathised with

:11:27. > :11:35.the crime, which there is absolutely no evidence Sadiq Khan ever did. It

:11:36. > :11:40.is going to kick off in America. There is an article about just how

:11:41. > :11:45.bloody and terrible and highly insulting the whole thing will be in

:11:46. > :11:49.America, so maybe we should think about what happened in the London

:11:50. > :11:56.this as very mild. Staying with politics, the independent have an

:11:57. > :12:02.exclusive Suntory -- story, sent the Shadow Chancellor is demanding a new

:12:03. > :12:05.voting system here. What he is saying is that we should have

:12:06. > :12:12.proportional representation. It is very interesting. The Labour Party

:12:13. > :12:16.have a chance in 1997, but Tony Blair did not think you would win

:12:17. > :12:19.that bigger majority. They have discussions with Paddy Ashdown about

:12:20. > :12:25.having proportional representation. They didn't go for it. Now that

:12:26. > :12:28.Labour is in trouble, the Shadow Chancellor calls for proportional

:12:29. > :12:34.representation. Even with it, which exists in Scotland, where is Labour

:12:35. > :12:39.with proportional representation in Scotland? Proportional

:12:40. > :12:43.representation by itself, helping Labour get some share of power, I

:12:44. > :12:48.don't think it works. The party would need to have some message. In

:12:49. > :12:52.Scotland we have proportional representation and the SNP is so

:12:53. > :12:58.dominant that Labour are in third. John McDonnell, is nearby to bid to

:12:59. > :13:05.replace Jeremy Corbyn? There is some talk that he was at the front of

:13:06. > :13:11.trying to censure Ken Livingstone, and that McDonnell has been lining

:13:12. > :13:16.up to hope that if there is a coup he will be the first one to succeed.

:13:17. > :13:20.There is a lot of talk about that. Did he thinks this is a policy they

:13:21. > :13:27.can't agree on. We had a referendum a couple of years ago didn't we? A

:13:28. > :13:32.fee in 2011. The proper political animals with said that isn't the

:13:33. > :13:34.same thing. How exciting this proportional representation? Not at

:13:35. > :13:45.all. Thank you very much. We will be back

:13:46. > :13:56.at 11:30 p.m.. To join us. You'll both be back at 11.30pm

:13:57. > :14:02.for another look at the stories