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:00:15. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:19. > :00:24.With me are the international editor of the Economist, Helen Joyce.

:00:25. > :00:26.And the chief political correspondent of the Sun,

:00:27. > :00:35.Welcome. We can run through the front pages.

:00:36. > :00:36.Stories relating to the EU referendum dominate

:00:37. > :00:42.many of the front pages, including the Metro,

:00:43. > :00:44.which quotes Boris Johnson calling the Prime Minister "demented"

:00:45. > :00:46.for suggesting that Brexit could raise the risk

:00:47. > :00:51.The Telegraph has claims that David Cameron is refusing to take

:00:52. > :00:54.part in live TV debates ahead of the referendum.

:00:55. > :00:56.The claim in the Express is that Brussels plans to replace

:00:57. > :01:02.household appliances for energy efficient alternatives.

:01:03. > :01:07.Elsewhere, the Financial Times reports on government plans

:01:08. > :01:09.to ring-fence the British Steel pension fund, in order

:01:10. > :01:15.to make Tata Steel more attractive to buyers.

:01:16. > :01:17.The I previews the government's white paper on the future

:01:18. > :01:22.of the BBC, saying that higher paid stars will have their salaries made

:01:23. > :01:25.A pledge from David Cameron to clamp down on financial corruption

:01:26. > :01:34.And the Times leads on the same story and also has images

:01:35. > :01:45.of the Duchess of Cornwall cheering on one of her horses

:01:46. > :01:51.We can kick off and we will look at the Telegraph newspaper saying David

:01:52. > :02:00.Cameron rejected TV debates on Europe. Were they ever on the cards?

:02:01. > :02:04.I would say for camera not. It was a situation where you can guess what

:02:05. > :02:09.people think there is in it for them and for camera there is nothing.

:02:10. > :02:12.Partly because it makes him go head-to-head with someone in his

:02:13. > :02:20.party which makes the Tories look disunited which they are. Also the

:02:21. > :02:23.person you would... Who would most want to talk to him is Boris Johnson

:02:24. > :02:30.and he is good at this sort of thing. There is a quote from Boris

:02:31. > :02:35.Johnson saying, put it this way, saying he would be up for a debate,

:02:36. > :02:43.saying I would looked like a wimp if I said no. Would you think Boris

:02:44. > :02:48.would have more to gain the Cameron? Only the Leave campaigners could

:02:49. > :02:54.benefit. Wembley Arena was booked for the head-to-head. They want

:02:55. > :02:56.three on each side, very close to referendum day and David Cameron is

:02:57. > :03:01.worried if the Tories go head-to-head on that it will be bad.

:03:02. > :03:09.We learn that he is not ducking the issue. He will do 30 minutes of

:03:10. > :03:15.questions either before, followed by 30 minutes of questions to Nigel

:03:16. > :03:20.Farage, which pleases him, who was kicking off he was not invited to

:03:21. > :03:23.the debate and there will be an examination of David Cameron on Sky

:03:24. > :03:28.News and the big losers seem to be the BBC. His advisers would say the

:03:29. > :03:31.strategy worked in terms of the general election, so they know what

:03:32. > :03:38.they are doing. It can be controlled. The 30 minutes. You do

:03:39. > :03:42.not have the same potential for a massive mess. He is good at it. He

:03:43. > :03:47.does town hall meetings and he is good on his feet when he is taking

:03:48. > :03:50.questions. He is the Prime Minister and looks prime ministerial when he

:03:51. > :03:55.does them and it allows him to control the room. Most people are

:03:56. > :04:01.pleased to ask a question of the Prime Minister. They would not

:04:02. > :04:06.follow it up the same way Boris might. Exactly. A smart move. The

:04:07. > :04:14.rhetoric between them is to be heating up. In the Metro they have

:04:15. > :04:19.Boris Johnson calling David Cameron demented, quote, I think this talk

:04:20. > :04:24.of World War III and bubonic plague is totally demented, frankly, says

:04:25. > :04:28.Boris Johnson. I suspect the bubonic plague came from his fertile

:04:29. > :04:36.imagination. I think he suggests it is exaggerated. What is

:04:37. > :04:41.entertaining, Boris is complaining Cameron has been saying one thing

:04:42. > :04:46.one time and another thing another, but the pot calling the kettle

:04:47. > :04:51.black. He has cheek. There is an issue with Boris's ambitions.

:04:52. > :04:56.Everyone takes the view he has gone on the Brexit side to help his

:04:57. > :05:00.leadership ambitions. That only works if written votes for Brexit

:05:01. > :05:04.and if we don't and he wants a Cabinet job, the more he says the

:05:05. > :05:09.Prime Minister is demented, the less his chance of getting a decent job

:05:10. > :05:12.when Karen puts the party back together. Relations between them,

:05:13. > :05:17.are they getting worse because of the debate, or is it friendly

:05:18. > :05:24.rivalry? I think there is an element of showmanship. The longer it goes

:05:25. > :05:28.on, the Prime Minister is feeling this personally and he takes issue

:05:29. > :05:33.with loyalty and people he sees as disloyal. He has given Cabinet

:05:34. > :05:46.ministers leeway but I think he thinks that some are starting to

:05:47. > :05:51.abuse that. We have the I looking at the White Paper on the BBC saying

:05:52. > :05:57.mega pay deals at the BBC will be revealed and stars paid over

:05:58. > :06:06.?450,000 will be named. Not sure why 450 in particular. I have no idea!

:06:07. > :06:10.What you think about? I think it is irrelevant. Things need to happen

:06:11. > :06:17.but is that one of them, will it make a difference? I don't know

:06:18. > :06:21.what, the independence of the BBC. It is making sure we know how the

:06:22. > :06:27.licence fee is being spent and it will be dressed up as a great

:06:28. > :06:33.victory. It is a climb down because the government wanted to make people

:06:34. > :06:42.earning over 455 -- ?150,000 the same as the Prime Minister, but I

:06:43. > :06:46.think 450,000 is the salary of the DG and that is why it has been

:06:47. > :06:56.picked. We might get to know the pay of the people. I am not sure you

:06:57. > :07:06.will be dragged into the pay deals. Unfortunately not! What about the

:07:07. > :07:11.White Paper? I am interested in the notion we could use I play abroad as

:07:12. > :07:16.licence payers. I am on that level, the consumer side. On your holiday!

:07:17. > :07:21.That is the level which you are getting comment from me. I think

:07:22. > :07:26.what we will get is something that looks more pro-BBC than some of the

:07:27. > :07:32.rhetoric we have had. Is that a result of a battle behind? There has

:07:33. > :07:38.been battling behind-the-scenes. Some of the things in the paper may

:07:39. > :07:44.be about Strictly not being on at the same time as the X Factor is

:07:45. > :07:51.scaremongering. What there will be also it is important things for the

:07:52. > :07:59.future of journalism. That the BBC might have too paid for rivals'

:08:00. > :08:03.local journalists. The website puts local news and it is killing off

:08:04. > :08:08.local papers, so siphoning off Arnie to local papers to keep journalism,

:08:09. > :08:12.the more devolution we have, the more local mayors there are, that's

:08:13. > :08:19.there are proper local papers analysing what is going on. If you

:08:20. > :08:24.are running a local paper, do you want a BBC journalist doing some of

:08:25. > :08:29.your reporting, say court reporting? What I think you don't want is to be

:08:30. > :08:33.squeezed out. Everybody who has worked on local papers knows you can

:08:34. > :08:40.turn up at a press conference with four outlets from the BBC. It is

:08:41. > :08:44.David versus Goliath sometimes. It is vital people use their local

:08:45. > :08:48.papers and do not think they can get it on the BBC. It is the future of

:08:49. > :08:57.journalism because that is the traditional route. The Guardian. We

:08:58. > :09:00.had comments caught on the microphone of the Prime Minister

:09:01. > :09:05.about corruption ahead of the summit, where he said Afghanistan

:09:06. > :09:10.and Nigeria were fantastically corrupt. Now the Guardian is

:09:11. > :09:18.reporting a crackdown on dirty money. The measures if they happen,

:09:19. > :09:22.that is great. They say they want beneficial ownership, the real

:09:23. > :09:29.owners behind Shell companies and trusts, which can be hidden, they

:09:30. > :09:32.want real owners to be named on a public register, which would be

:09:33. > :09:36.great. They have said several times they are going to do this, so if

:09:37. > :09:43.they do it now that is fabulous and I hope other countries follow them

:09:44. > :09:46.will stop the scene. Craig you have a theory on whether the Prime

:09:47. > :09:52.Minister, was it a mistake when he said they were fantastically

:09:53. > :09:56.corrupt. There was a cheeky look at the camera when he said the words

:09:57. > :10:01.fantastically corrupt and nobody was talking about the summit until he

:10:02. > :10:05.was caught saying what it then turns out the Nigerian and Afghan

:10:06. > :10:11.president are prepared to say, their countries are corrupt and they are

:10:12. > :10:16.trying to fix it. Maybe I am giving his spin operation... That is quite

:10:17. > :10:21.a conspiracy theory. You think they sit in Downing Street coming up with

:10:22. > :10:24.plans like that? I don't put anything past them. I suppose it

:10:25. > :10:31.worked in the sense we are talking about it. If that were true. We are

:10:32. > :10:35.talking about an anti-corruption Summit that would not be at the top

:10:36. > :10:43.of the agenda. And on the same day as the BBC White Paper. Is it an

:10:44. > :10:50.important issue? Absolutely. Tremendously so. Not least because

:10:51. > :10:54.it is linked with tax evasion and avoidance and one thing we have seen

:10:55. > :11:00.from the government since 2010 is every budget they announce a measure

:11:01. > :11:04.that they will get money from tax evasion and avoidance. They have to

:11:05. > :11:09.find a way of getting this cash from people and this would help. One

:11:10. > :11:15.thing they plan to do is ensure we know which foreign companies own all

:11:16. > :11:19.property in the UK. If that stops foreign money buying property that

:11:20. > :11:27.is a lot of money not going to be exchanged via the land Registry and

:11:28. > :11:34.so on. It may be -- going to the Exchequer. They need money to come

:11:35. > :11:38.in but there is also the perception because they are seen as the friends

:11:39. > :11:42.of the rich, the Tories, and they need to look like they are stopping

:11:43. > :11:48.rich friends from hiding cash. We will end with the story about it a

:11:49. > :11:55.thought, sent home from work according to the Daily Express, for

:11:56. > :11:59.refusing to wear high heels. She is a receptionist. Apparently it is OK

:12:00. > :12:05.for companies to have dress codes and it is OK for them to insist

:12:06. > :12:13.women wear make up and high heels as part of a dress code. I am at a desk

:12:14. > :12:19.all day and I wear trainers. You are not forced to wear high heels?

:12:20. > :12:25.Nobody except a man could think these are things you should wear all

:12:26. > :12:30.day if that is what you do not want to do. If she signed up for a job

:12:31. > :12:34.where the dress code is high heels and she turned up without high heels

:12:35. > :12:39.and was told she needed to wear them and she was sent home when she

:12:40. > :12:47.didn't. Do you not think there is something wrong with the dress code?

:12:48. > :12:51.It is perfectly legal. If they said you have to wear a red skirt and

:12:52. > :12:55.jacket like Virgin Airlines and she turned up wearing black and refused

:12:56. > :12:59.to change she would be sent home. I disagree. You have not worn high

:13:00. > :13:07.heels, you have no idea what you are talking about! I would hate to put

:13:08. > :13:12.you on the spot here! I was going to open the door into corners of my

:13:13. > :13:21.private life! Maybe we will leave it there. Craig, from the Sun

:13:22. > :13:28.newspaper, and Helen, from the Economist, many thanks. That is it

:13:29. > :13:35.from us tonight but before we go this is a reminder of the front

:13:36. > :13:39.pages. The Telegraph having claims that David Cameron refuses to take

:13:40. > :13:44.part in live debates ahead of the referendum. The Financial Times

:13:45. > :13:48.reports to ring-fence the British Steel pension fund to make Tata

:13:49. > :13:53.Steel more attractive to buyers. And a preview of the government White

:13:54. > :13:58.Paper on the future of the BBC, saying higher paid stars will have

:13:59. > :14:06.salaries made public. All the front pages online on the BBC News

:14:07. > :14:16.website, where you can read ADT -- a detailed review of the papers. And

:14:17. > :14:35.you can see us there, also. Banks again. Coming up next, the weather.

:14:36. > :14:37.It has been another day of contrasts across the UK. Fine and sunny