19/05/2016

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:00:19. > :00:30.Welcome to look ahead to what the papers will be bringing tomorrow.

:00:31. > :00:38.Welcome back both of you. The front pages, the EgyptAir flight seeing

:00:39. > :00:44.the terrorist attack is the most likely cause. The Telegraph says a

:00:45. > :00:46.fool privacy law has been created after the Supreme Court ruled an

:00:47. > :00:51.injunction with the married celebrity can stand. The metal beads

:00:52. > :00:58.with the report of Britain Richard Osman who is feared to have died in

:00:59. > :01:01.the plane crash. The Guardian says 100 new child sex abuse cases are

:01:02. > :01:09.being referred to the police every month. Fears over aviation safety in

:01:10. > :01:11.the wake of the EgyptAir disaster. And the times charts the final

:01:12. > :01:21.movements of the flight. And the FT leads with the German

:01:22. > :01:24.company Bayer making a takeover bid for the agricultural company

:01:25. > :01:29.Monsanto. And let's begin with how the times

:01:30. > :01:34.are reporting this plane crash because a very shocking headline,

:01:35. > :01:41.passengers spinning to their deaths. Terrorists suspected. And then it

:01:42. > :01:49.talks about this strange manoeuvre that the plane seems to make. This

:01:50. > :01:54.is a really horrific story. You don't want to jump to premature

:01:55. > :01:58.conclusions but like lots of people are now seeing, it looks like it

:01:59. > :02:05.possibly could have been mechanical but the likelihood is a terrorist

:02:06. > :02:10.problem, more likely. Incredibly distressing, 66 people on board and

:02:11. > :02:14.the thing I think people will be looking at is the fact that Egypt's

:02:15. > :02:23.has had already issues with security, there was a plane and the

:02:24. > :02:28.issue of a man directing a flight which eventually led to Cyprus but

:02:29. > :02:31.it was from Egypt. There are one issues about security in Egypt and

:02:32. > :02:36.the US use and I think one of the worries is that Egypt is a country

:02:37. > :02:41.that really relies on to those and that will be draining away,

:02:42. > :02:44.something that you only will make it more susceptible to terrorist

:02:45. > :02:50.attacks. The whole thing is deeply worrying. You wonder why they stuck

:02:51. > :02:53.their necks out and said it was a terrorist attack when Elliott and

:02:54. > :02:58.the day they seems to have found some wreckage and others said they

:02:59. > :03:04.haven't. It is upsetting as it is for family and friends? At this

:03:05. > :03:08.point nobody knows and as far as we can tell there is a plane in the sea

:03:09. > :03:11.but you interviewed an expert and he said earlier on, how do you tell if

:03:12. > :03:16.a particular piece of wreckage that you find in the sea is from the

:03:17. > :03:22.plane which has disappeared today or from another plane or something else

:03:23. > :03:26.completely. It was the Egyptian Minister who was giving a press

:03:27. > :03:30.conference this afternoon saying we think it is probably a terror attack

:03:31. > :03:34.rather than mechanical failure at this point. Presumably he is basing

:03:35. > :03:39.that on some kind of expertise. Maybe mechanical failure would mean

:03:40. > :03:42.communication... They don't want to look like they are somehow

:03:43. > :03:47.complacent in terms of trying to suppress the fact it is a terrorist

:03:48. > :03:50.attack. All the early evidence is pointing to that and the air that

:03:51. > :03:56.the stage where they don't want to look as if they are covering it up.

:03:57. > :04:00.Let's look at the Guardian. Huge scale of child sex abuse shocks

:04:01. > :04:05.police. 100 new cases every month referred for investigation. In

:04:06. > :04:09.Australia when they have this commission, they had so many people

:04:10. > :04:16.come forward and it looks like it could be the same here. The police

:04:17. > :04:20.officer in charge predicts that by 2020 the police will be

:04:21. > :04:25.investigating 200,000 cases of historic child sex abuse. It makes

:04:26. > :04:29.you wonder that the police will have time to do anything else by that

:04:30. > :04:37.time, especially given cuts and police budgets. This enquiry is a

:04:38. > :04:42.statutory enquiry with power to bring witnesses. It is a big deal.

:04:43. > :04:50.Obviously a couple of false starts when British cheer people resigned

:04:51. > :04:54.because they felt they were close to institutions and individuals who

:04:55. > :04:59.might be being investigated. We now have Zealander in charge and it

:05:00. > :05:05.seems to be full throttle. What this is highlighting is that for decades

:05:06. > :05:07.we had a culture of victims, particularly young victims, not

:05:08. > :05:13.being believed and so not coming forward. What we are going to have

:05:14. > :05:17.to see is a big cultural shift in terms of... It has been happening in

:05:18. > :05:22.terms of how the police deal with these cases and how the criminal

:05:23. > :05:24.justice system deals with these cases but quite often, it has been

:05:25. > :05:29.somebody any position of authority and power and normally a young

:05:30. > :05:36.person who has been unclear or who is vulnerable, there has been a lot

:05:37. > :05:38.of power play, but the classic feature has been the victim not

:05:39. > :05:43.being believed and that will have to be a big cultural shift. And it

:05:44. > :05:48.would imply people feel more confident about coming forward. The

:05:49. > :05:56.Daily Telegraph, judges create UK privacy law. This is the Supreme

:05:57. > :06:05.Court upholding an injunction against a celebrity. Here we have a

:06:06. > :06:11.ruling from these judges that the injunction should stand which is not

:06:12. > :06:22.what the newspaper wanted. Why does that it to the creation of a law?

:06:23. > :06:26.Because the Supreme Court, and the clue is in the name, what they say

:06:27. > :06:33.is law until another Supreme Court decision or parliamentary decision,

:06:34. > :06:38.an act of Parliament overrules it, so once these judges have spoken,

:06:39. > :06:43.the word is law and what it said in the leading judgment today was that

:06:44. > :06:50.the privacy of the individual should trump... They are two writes in the

:06:51. > :06:53.European rights Convention which are competing, the right to freedom of

:06:54. > :07:01.expression in the right to privacy and family law. The judge said that

:07:02. > :07:07.the right to privacy is trumps the right to freedom of expression

:07:08. > :07:11.unless there is a public office which can't be properly taken out,

:07:12. > :07:16.somebody in the public eye who can do their job properly because of

:07:17. > :07:20.what is going on because of their private life, or if they have

:07:21. > :07:23.created a misconception in the public mind about their private

:07:24. > :07:28.life. Some people might say that getting married, as this coupled

:07:29. > :07:35.dead, creates an impression on the public mind that they will be

:07:36. > :07:39.faithful to each other. But privacy and the right to a family life, who

:07:40. > :07:46.is to codify what shapes that family life because people do all sorts of

:07:47. > :07:49.things. I think personally society has moved on and we are not that

:07:50. > :07:57.interested in these kinds of stories. Newspapers sell as a result

:07:58. > :07:59.of it. I think what is interesting is whether UK politicians will want

:08:00. > :08:06.to change their sense that you because we had a huge brouhaha over

:08:07. > :08:10.leathers and a couple of years ago. One of the things that came out of

:08:11. > :08:15.that was the working to keep this type of law away from statute and

:08:16. > :08:18.Parliament, so it will be interesting to see whether they be

:08:19. > :08:24.asked to go back and amend that because you could open it up to

:08:25. > :08:29.other press regulation coming in and that would open up a row. The other

:08:30. > :08:34.thing that is significant is this only applies in England and Wales

:08:35. > :08:41.and in Scotland, for example, the original injunction and it doesn't

:08:42. > :08:44.apply so anyone can find out. And that is one of the great

:08:45. > :08:49.distinctions in the sense you have broadcasters, newspapers playing by

:08:50. > :08:54.the rules, but then there is jurisdiction beyond that in terms of

:08:55. > :09:01.digital, and that is where the law is very difficult to enforce and

:09:02. > :09:07.privacy. We could talk about this longer but we must move on. Let's go

:09:08. > :09:10.back to the times, the Shadow Minister for Europe called a voter

:09:11. > :09:18.racist and she has had to come out very quickly with an apology. I

:09:19. > :09:22.can't personally explain why. I think there are two rules of

:09:23. > :09:29.politics at the moment, don't talk about Hitler and adored Colville

:09:30. > :09:35.says Rhesus. That is quite basic. -- don't call voters racist. These are

:09:36. > :09:40.the two camps and it will get heated and ugly in the remaining weeks. The

:09:41. > :09:48.The main campaign are focusing on jobs and growth and the economy.

:09:49. > :09:53.People are focusing on the economy and it is really ramping up. Pat

:09:54. > :09:56.Glass has been caught out, the resource such thing as off the

:09:57. > :10:04.record if you are politician and Gordon Byron famously learned that.

:10:05. > :10:10.-- Gordon Brown. Emily Thornberry lost her position in the shadow can

:10:11. > :10:15.do it because of the treat. We have to be able to have sensible

:10:16. > :10:19.discussion about immigration without it either feeling into dog whistle

:10:20. > :10:26.racism but at the same time not dismissing fears about racism. The

:10:27. > :10:33.person she spoke to said was a horrible racist and never wanted

:10:34. > :10:38.comeback. She said she was talking about a particular family, not

:10:39. > :10:43.immigrants entirely. This voter was talking and apparently about a local

:10:44. > :10:48.family believes to be on benefits. As if that is some kind of crime in

:10:49. > :10:51.and of itself. I think it is interesting, this is the third time

:10:52. > :10:57.that a prominent Labour politician has been caught out effectively

:10:58. > :11:06.smearing at the voters that the support to be representing. They

:11:07. > :11:09.seemed to be sneering at the house with a flag of St George when

:11:10. > :11:14.campaigning against Ukip, Gordon Brown with the bigoted woman, and

:11:15. > :11:23.now Pat Glass, and the Labour Party in particular need to use the

:11:24. > :11:27.phrase, get a grip, on how... Can I say in hard defence, I don't think

:11:28. > :11:34.anyone can question how working-class background is. But

:11:35. > :11:41.just to put that in another perspective, I spoke two days ago to

:11:42. > :11:44.Nigel Farage, a perfectly reasonable debate, and he took it into an early

:11:45. > :11:52.on immigration which had a nasty racial undertone, so both sides have

:11:53. > :11:57.got to be quite careful. He isn't here to explain what he meant so I

:11:58. > :12:05.will move on. The Guardian, a group of celebrities on the front page,

:12:06. > :12:12.most of them actors and actresses, or they are all actors. Vivian

:12:13. > :12:17.Westwood and Hillary Mantell, why are they on the only front-page?

:12:18. > :12:23.They have written a letter to the Daily Telegraph in favour of

:12:24. > :12:28.remaining in the European Union and as the Telegraph front-page's story

:12:29. > :12:38.points out, that might not have the effect that they want it to have,

:12:39. > :12:43.because the views of so-called luvvies may have great currency in

:12:44. > :12:51.Metropolitan London but out in the real world, the places Pat Glass is

:12:52. > :12:54.going back to, wherever they are, people can be quite contrary about

:12:55. > :13:00.being told what to do by people with lots of money. Or might they look at

:13:01. > :13:09.these people and say they trust them as much as a politician. You have

:13:10. > :13:12.people like Ian Botham coming out, but the serious business case and

:13:13. > :13:17.the creative industries in this country are doing really well in

:13:18. > :13:20.Britain and they rely on that and do well around the world but

:13:21. > :13:26.particularly the European market, so I think Bill is probably a business

:13:27. > :13:32.case they are alluding to. Most of the cultural traffic economically as

:13:33. > :13:38.transatlantic. Finally, back to the Muirfield when in's members ban.

:13:39. > :13:41.This is the golf club that has said that the carry on insisting they

:13:42. > :13:47.will not let women become members, they can just be guests visitors and

:13:48. > :13:56.now Peter Alice has agreed with them! It is depressing and they need

:13:57. > :14:02.to move on. -- Peter Alliss. You have a situation with a female First

:14:03. > :14:05.Minister and the reason they give is the said women golfers play too

:14:06. > :14:18.slowly and with the room lunch. Come on! That was the rationale from the

:14:19. > :14:22.club. I think Peter Alliss has said... Insisting they would never

:14:23. > :14:31.want to pay the fees anyway, these women! These women! I love it! My

:14:32. > :14:35.view on this simple, it is a private club and that its members want to

:14:36. > :14:40.keep women out, just as if a female club wanted to keep men out, that is

:14:41. > :14:45.their right. It is not a decision agree with, it is a decision I

:14:46. > :14:50.object to, but that is the right, and if then the nation wants to take

:14:51. > :14:57.the open away from them that is the thing to do. And that is the right

:14:58. > :15:03.thing to do. As Sinead O'Connor said, I do not want what I cannot

:15:04. > :15:09.have. That is the papers for tonight, can we roll up the autocue?

:15:10. > :15:16.Thank you. The pages are all online and you can see them on the website.

:15:17. > :15:22.Goodbye. You can also watch us because tonight's edition is on that

:15:23. > :15:31.page also and also on I player. Coming up next. The weather.

:15:32. > :15:39.Good evening. The weather has been unsettled over the last few days

:15:40. > :15:45.with fluctuation in the temperature around rain at times. Some heavy

:15:46. > :15:46.thunderstorms to end the day in Belfast and once the year