22/05/2016

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:00:18. > :00:31.With me are the broadcasters John Stapleton and Esther McVey.

:00:32. > :00:41.Two editions on a Sunday night, music to the ears of quite a few

:00:42. > :00:48.viewers. Are we going to find the front pages? Maybe we're not to

:00:49. > :00:58.bother. We can just talk at great and length -- greater.

:00:59. > :01:02.The Financial Times quotes a bleak economic analysis by the treasury

:01:03. > :01:16.The Daily Telegraph say the Prime Minister and Chancellor will

:01:17. > :01:19.deliver a warning that leaving the EU will cost Britain hundreds

:01:20. > :01:29.Where are they getting this idea of a recession from? It is a forecast

:01:30. > :01:35.from the Treasurer which says, if you vote to leave, you will be

:01:36. > :01:42.voting for a DIY recession. They think that GDP will go down by 6%,

:01:43. > :01:51.that interest rates would rise and house prices would fall, et cetera.

:01:52. > :01:55.It is also reported by the governor of the Bank of England and people

:01:56. > :02:06.from the IMF. The league campaign are saying it is a very biased view

:02:07. > :02:11.-- Leave campaign. As far as they are concerned, this is more from

:02:12. > :02:17.project fear. One side says one thing, and the other side says

:02:18. > :02:23.something that is the complete opposite. A different point of view,

:02:24. > :02:28.we have read about this now for a long time. Every day it seems to

:02:29. > :02:32.ratchet up. If you are at the chancellor or the Prime Minister,

:02:33. > :02:35.you have to look at the country and what you shouldn't be doing is

:02:36. > :02:42.talking the country and the finances down. At the moment, we are on the

:02:43. > :02:51.eve of the last day that you can get a bid in to buy tighter steel. You

:02:52. > :02:57.don't want to be dismissing the economy -- Tata. There is a warning

:02:58. > :03:11.that this may well happen if you vote this way... You just said that

:03:12. > :03:26.forecasts aren't right. They have said that... A lot of changes at...

:03:27. > :03:30.The reality was that jobs have gone up by 2 million jobs. It was the

:03:31. > :03:36.highest ever employment rates... The same kind of people who wanted to

:03:37. > :03:41.put out an agenda were giving out incorrect facts at the last

:03:42. > :03:47.election. Sorry, we don't have huge amounts of time. The Daily Mail said

:03:48. > :03:53.that Cameron's Guru is saying that we must quit the EU. Which Guru is

:03:54. > :04:00.this? I think this is a very interesting article. Steve Hilton,

:04:01. > :04:05.many people say he helped David Cameron become the Prime Minister.

:04:06. > :04:08.Wobbly one of the brains who helped him. He is saying that this is

:04:09. > :04:14.absolutely wrong and we have to get out of Europe. He says he will take

:04:15. > :04:20.power back from an arrogant, unaccountable elite, and we should

:04:21. > :04:30.put power back to the people, where it wants. It's an earthshattering

:04:31. > :04:35.story. David Cameron's former aid has also campaigned for the country

:04:36. > :04:40.to leave the EU. I wonder what effect this will have outside the

:04:41. > :04:44.Westminster bubble and the bubble of people who we mix with

:04:45. > :04:50.professionally. Would the vast majority of people know Steve Hilton

:04:51. > :04:54.from a bar of soap? When he is challenging what is being said,

:04:55. > :05:00.talking about the NHS, there was a doctor who is the chairman of the

:05:01. > :05:04.health committee, she said it was a cynical distortion of facts about

:05:05. > :05:09.the NHS. When you have people coming forward and saying things like that,

:05:10. > :05:16.people should listen... There would be an equal number of people on the

:05:17. > :05:23.other side saying the opposite. A lot of people would say we would be

:05:24. > :05:28.better out. There are not all of these hell and damnation stories.

:05:29. > :05:34.Austria on a knife edge as the vote is too close to call. The centrist

:05:35. > :05:39.party have disappeared without a trace really in this election. You

:05:40. > :05:46.have a far right candidate and a former Green Party member who is

:05:47. > :05:50.standing as an independent. Line it is a very divided set of choices,

:05:51. > :05:57.but it is people saying, we are not happy with the mainstream parties.

:05:58. > :06:02.They want something different. Right or wrong, they are saying that they

:06:03. > :06:07.have heard the smooth words, they don't believe that and it's about

:06:08. > :06:10.the voice of the people who are coming out in protest wanting

:06:11. > :06:14.something different. You are just seeing it in Austria, you are seeing

:06:15. > :06:20.it right across Europe. And in America too. Immigration is a key

:06:21. > :06:28.issue there as well. That is at least partly responsible of the

:06:29. > :06:33.success of the far right candidate. He will find out tomorrow whether he

:06:34. > :06:44.is successful, 900,000 uncounted postal votes. Cash is used for fewer

:06:45. > :06:51.than half of all consumer payments? It doesn't surprise me. I went to

:06:52. > :07:00.catch a bus in the rain near where I live recently. I was shocked to

:07:01. > :07:10.discover... You can't pay cash on London buses! I had to walk all the

:07:11. > :07:13.way... You got very wet? Those contactless cards, I think they are

:07:14. > :07:19.dangerous because you don't know how much you've spent. Arkley 's says

:07:20. > :07:29.that the biggest rise in contactless payments were those over 60. We are

:07:30. > :07:35.tapping and bowling. We also thought checks were going to die, but

:07:36. > :07:42.apparently they are still going. A lot of the... When they did want to

:07:43. > :07:49.get rid of checks, it was charities he said it would cut back on a lot

:07:50. > :07:54.of donations. I agree with that. Long live the cheque. I don't use

:07:55. > :08:04.cash because the kids have usually pinched all of mine. Don't let them

:08:05. > :08:13.get your contactless card. The Daily Express... Eat more fat to stay

:08:14. > :08:20.healthy? It seems that we have been badly advised? Is the same thing as

:08:21. > :08:23.Europe. They are told one thing, then they are told something

:08:24. > :08:28.completely different. Conflicting advice from so-called experts,

:08:29. > :08:40.saying that eating more fat will reduce the obesity epidemic. This

:08:41. > :08:47.certainly hasn't worked, our obesity problem is massive. It is costing us

:08:48. > :08:53.billions of pounds a year. Bring back real food like steak and eggs.

:08:54. > :08:57.Real, healthy food, as my grandmother would say, a little bit

:08:58. > :09:03.of what you fancy is good for you. It would just be a staple diet and

:09:04. > :09:11.not the sort of, low-fat which is full of other things. As he said,

:09:12. > :09:21.egg and chips, nothing wrong with that. I read a nutritionist's look,

:09:22. > :09:25.she said if it has more than five ingredients, don't go near it. Or if

:09:26. > :09:39.your godparents wouldn't have recognised it, don't eat it. The

:09:40. > :09:43.death of the song, not the story on tiny pets. But Jose Mourinho,

:09:44. > :09:57.potentially going to be the Manchester United boss? He has had a

:09:58. > :10:01.rough season, Louis van Gaal. The club haven't had any silverware for

:10:02. > :10:09.three years. I am a Manchester City fan, but the fact that... If Jose

:10:10. > :10:15.Mourinho is taking over and United still aren't confirming this, it

:10:16. > :10:21.looks like shabby treatment. There has been so much speculation. Every

:10:22. > :10:29.time he goes to press conference, they asked if Jose Mourinho is

:10:30. > :10:33.taking over a. He said that the way he heard was that his wife saw

:10:34. > :10:40.something on the television, gave him a call and alerted him that that

:10:41. > :10:46.could be happening. I think that is shoddy. He did win the FA Cup.

:10:47. > :10:53.Because he was expected to be there three years and it will only be one,

:10:54. > :10:58.he will get a ?5.4 million compensation package. I wouldn't

:10:59. > :11:07.mind managing Manchester United just for six months, if that is the

:11:08. > :11:15.reward. You good job share! I would happily be sacked on that kind of

:11:16. > :11:22.deal. Are you sure we are not going to do the song story? Baby boomers

:11:23. > :11:27.to blame for a lost generation of gardeners. The Royal horticultural

:11:28. > :11:32.Society are concerned about the state of a lot of gardens because

:11:33. > :11:45.children haven't been taught how to garden. Wears see and baby boomers,

:11:46. > :11:51.from the way this story is written, they didn't teach the children how

:11:52. > :11:59.to garden. Also the problem is that more and more people are living in

:12:00. > :12:06.flats. It could be that both parents are working, people are looking for

:12:07. > :12:12.easy gardens. Astroturf instead of real grass. This links in with the

:12:13. > :12:16.story about the food. You need extra time to enjoy the garden and do

:12:17. > :12:21.proper cooking. Hopefully we will get back to a healthier lifestyle, a

:12:22. > :12:33.bit more time in the garden, bringing your begonias -- pruning. I

:12:34. > :12:42.love doing it, I have just put some rhubarb in. Very healthy. Nice to

:12:43. > :12:48.see you both, a pleasure as always.