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:00:00. > :00:00.This is not true. He has in the past condemned and Islamic State. The BBC

:00:07. > :00:19.now it is time for the papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

:00:20. > :00:22.to what the papers will be With me are the Editor-in-Chief

:00:23. > :00:25.of MoneyWeek, Merryn Somerset Webb, and the Political Editor

:00:26. > :00:33.of the Daily Record, Let's have a look at some other

:00:34. > :00:36.front pages. Thousands of patients have become trapped in hospitals

:00:37. > :00:42.because of failures in social care. It says the NHS is having to foot

:00:43. > :00:47.and ?800 million bill for elderly bed blockers. The Metro leads on the

:00:48. > :00:51.strikes in France which are causing major fuel shortages. The paper says

:00:52. > :00:56.British holiday-makers risk getting stranded after half the country's

:00:57. > :01:00.petrol pumps will run dry. The Guardian carries a picture of

:01:01. > :01:05.migrants and refugees scrambling for their lives after their heavily

:01:06. > :01:09.laden boat capsized in the southern Mediterranean. They managed to save

:01:10. > :01:14.500 people in a mission migration experts described as miraculous. The

:01:15. > :01:18.Daily Telegraph has that your Matic picture too. He leads on official

:01:19. > :01:22.projections suggesting the population in England is to rise by

:01:23. > :01:28.4 million as areas in the south swell by up to a quarter. In the

:01:29. > :01:32.Times, British special forces fired a missile to destroy an Islamic

:01:33. > :01:38.State truck packed with explosives in Libya earlier this month. We will

:01:39. > :01:46.start with the Daily Telegraph. The population to rise by 4 million.

:01:47. > :01:54.Below it, it has a caption, EU referendum. Clearly this story will

:01:55. > :01:59.feed in the debate. If you read the whole story you will see that half

:02:00. > :02:05.this rise in population is purely down to an ageing population. Only

:02:06. > :02:10.half is about Newham -- new immigration. It feeds into

:02:11. > :02:16.everyone's anxieties about pressure on social services and the NHS and

:02:17. > :02:22.education. This is about helping councils plan for a rising influx in

:02:23. > :02:30.people. That will be discussed a lot over the next four weeks. As those

:02:31. > :02:34.supporting Brexit, if we can get more control of our borders, they

:02:35. > :02:39.would argue, by leaving the European Union, we're not going to have

:02:40. > :02:43.250,000 EU migrants who came to this country up to September of last

:02:44. > :02:47.year. If they think they can stop migration by doing the EU, they have

:02:48. > :02:55.another thing coming. It does not feed into the debate. It adds fire

:02:56. > :03:01.to the debate. The economic argument with the devastating bombardment of

:03:02. > :03:07.economic against Brexit, they will move onto the ground which is their

:03:08. > :03:12.strength, immigration. This feeds back into the economic argument.

:03:13. > :03:18.One, session is about, are we seeing wages pushed down by a rise in

:03:19. > :03:27.immigration? You can see that again wages are coming expectations. These

:03:28. > :03:32.stories do dovetail. Quite an interesting speech by Gordon Brown

:03:33. > :03:37.in Brussels today. He said, we will face massive immigration. People are

:03:38. > :03:44.sceptical about Europe, so give them a deal, like the Scots got in their

:03:45. > :03:51.referendum. If areas are under pressure, make sure there is a

:03:52. > :03:56.migration fund. If schools are under pressure, hospitals are under

:03:57. > :04:02.pressure and public services are under pressure, that is when people

:04:03. > :04:06.start resenting immigration. If that can be dealt with, people on the

:04:07. > :04:12.whole say they are not against immigration. Nobody is really making

:04:13. > :04:20.the argument. Europe needs immigrants because the population is

:04:21. > :04:27.ageing. The point is, it is Britain being able to have control of this.

:04:28. > :04:31.They say, we do need to be able to take control of the people coming

:04:32. > :04:38.in. That would be their argument. One of the things I do not think

:04:39. > :04:47.those wanting to leave the EU have not been clear about is that leaving

:04:48. > :04:51.the uterus not mean... Different deal for different groups of

:04:52. > :04:59.professions or working areas. We know for example that large-scale

:05:00. > :05:06.immigration affects wages at the Berry, very bottom end of the scale.

:05:07. > :05:11.If you wanted to control immigration policies, perhaps he would bring in

:05:12. > :05:23.different people with different skills. We use our tax credit

:05:24. > :05:30.system. Liberty is prosecuted. You come back to the argument about the

:05:31. > :05:32.minimum wage subsidising the global multinationals. Moving off the

:05:33. > :05:50.paper, sorry. We are here for a nice, lovely

:05:51. > :05:53.discussion. You talk about whatever you want to talk about. It is not a

:05:54. > :05:56.problem. We're going to talk about the photograph on the front of the

:05:57. > :05:58.Guardian. The flip side of the migration debate. Look at this

:05:59. > :06:06.picture. A boat on its side about to capsized. Some actually died. I've

:06:07. > :06:15.had in 50 souls came off and 50 died in aim and recovery. This image

:06:16. > :06:25.shows the boat going down. It was taken by the Italian coastguard.

:06:26. > :06:29.They took 550 off the capsized boat. The images will be in all of the

:06:30. > :06:35.papers tomorrow. In the last two days, Monday and Tuesday this week,

:06:36. > :06:39.they have taken 5600 people ashore from the Mediterranean. Hundreds of

:06:40. > :06:50.thousands more are coming this summer. It, as we know, is a massive

:06:51. > :06:59.crisis facing Europe. We do not know how to deal with this. Now onto the

:07:00. > :07:04.Financial Times. The UK would face tortuous trade talks in the event of

:07:05. > :07:08.Brexit. This comes from the world Trade Organisation. One of these

:07:09. > :07:14.central campaigns as if we left the European Union we could have free

:07:15. > :07:20.trade. The WTO is saying, it would be hell. This is interesting. I am

:07:21. > :07:25.under the impression we could stay in the WTO and that would not be

:07:26. > :07:32.much of a problem. Do you support Brexit? Absolutely. Time after time

:07:33. > :07:36.these things come out. When you look at the detail they are not as awful

:07:37. > :07:41.as a Sample. I have thought the default position would be to trade

:07:42. > :07:46.under WTO rules. How tortuous would it be to stay? It is impossible to

:07:47. > :07:50.say at this point. When you look at a list of the members, virtually

:07:51. > :07:53.every country you can think of is a member. I find difficult to imagine

:07:54. > :07:59.the UK would be one of the few countries in the world but did not

:08:00. > :08:04.have access to it. I am sure we would have access to it. It would

:08:05. > :08:12.take years and years. There are different deals with different

:08:13. > :08:17.countries. In short, the WTO is repeating what President Obama said,

:08:18. > :08:26.back of the queue. There is not a queue. On the back of IMF, the World

:08:27. > :08:38.Bank, the Treasury. EasyJet. Everybody says Britain would be

:08:39. > :08:41.worse off. The economic consensus. Big trade organisations prefer a

:08:42. > :08:48.status quo to change. It is the same. What the Remain camp has been

:08:49. > :08:59.doing is pounding this case about the risk, project

:09:00. > :09:13.fear two, they are calling it. It will be interesting tomorrow. We may

:09:14. > :09:20.find that the Vote League side comes up with more economic arguments. Has

:09:21. > :09:34.this changed your mind question what -- Leave. I think there will be a

:09:35. > :09:40.lot more interesting things to say. Three plus weeks to go. I am

:09:41. > :09:47.throwing things at you now! This story assumes we lead the single

:09:48. > :09:50.market and that is a big assumption. Consensus is that if we left the

:09:51. > :09:59.European Union the single market is over. What are you suggesting! We

:10:00. > :10:04.will stick with the Financial Times. Hillary Clinton is in a bit of

:10:05. > :10:07.trouble. Her private e-mail server she kept while the Secretary of

:10:08. > :10:14.State. She should not have done that. Is has dogged Hillary for

:10:15. > :10:21.years. She used a private e-mail address and a private server. A

:10:22. > :10:32.massive breach of security protocol. This will be dragged up. Donald

:10:33. > :10:39.Trump will do this. They are already calling him a crooked Hillary

:10:40. > :10:45.Clinton. He is not a relation of mine. He is from the same village as

:10:46. > :11:03.my mother. Eye over eight that ever so slightly. He is in trouble

:11:04. > :11:06.himself. -- I over eight that. I wonder how it will affect matters.

:11:07. > :11:15.It will not affect Republican support. It is about those who are

:11:16. > :11:22.undecided. The Democrats are so anti-Clinton that they are willing

:11:23. > :11:33.to vote to keep her out. She is not found to have done anything illegal.

:11:34. > :11:37.They are still looking into it. We have a problem. We are heading to

:11:38. > :11:43.France in the next couple of days and they have a petrol crisis. After

:11:44. > :11:57.petrol chaos as drivers head for France. You will have to fill up

:11:58. > :12:04.here, would you? They are talking about chaos. The AA has already been

:12:05. > :12:13.picking up cars from the side of the road in France. We did this first.

:12:14. > :12:19.We had petrol strikes and blockades of refineries way back in 2000. The

:12:20. > :12:30.eight days that Shook the Blair government. The industrial action

:12:31. > :12:36.nearly ran Britain drive. It is so much better in France with burning

:12:37. > :12:44.tyres, riots and burning police cars. They are better at labour

:12:45. > :12:47.disputes than we are. The Labour reforms have been so watered down

:12:48. > :12:56.that not even bosses want them anymore. Train ticket clippers are

:12:57. > :13:02.facing the end of the nine. I did not know they were still about. We

:13:03. > :13:06.did actually look at one of my train ticket earlier and see that it did

:13:07. > :13:12.have a hole in it. I can see how that would be painful over time. OK.

:13:13. > :13:18.Many thanks for looking at some of the stories behind the headlines.

:13:19. > :13:21.Very many thanks. Thank you for watching.