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:00:00. > :00:00.Or, a trip for Allah is through the looking glass. -- coming up, another

:00:00. > :00:14.trip for Alice through the looking glass.

:00:15. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

:00:18. > :00:21.With me are Lisa Markwell, former editor of the Independent

:00:22. > :00:23.on Sunday, and Kevin Schofield, editor of Politics Home.

:00:24. > :00:30.Tomorrow's front pages, starting with the Sunday Times,

:00:31. > :00:32.which leads with accusations from vote leave leaders that David

:00:33. > :00:35.Cameron has lost public trust over his failure to curb immigration.

:00:36. > :00:37.The Sunday Telegraph also goes with the EU referendum,

:00:38. > :00:40.with claims from eurosceptic ministers that the Prime Minister is

:00:41. > :00:45.unconcerned with the impact of immigration on working families.

:00:46. > :00:48.But an Observer poll suggests a boost for the remain campaign,

:00:49. > :00:51.as experts warn that the economy will be harmed

:00:52. > :01:02.And on the front page of the Express, a new protein jab

:01:03. > :01:11.Try as we might, we can't really start with anything other than the

:01:12. > :01:16.EU referendum. We will get two books as status symbols in a minute but we

:01:17. > :01:20.can't start with that. Let's start with the Observer, and the poll they

:01:21. > :01:25.have commissioned. A massive boost for the Prime Minister as 600

:01:26. > :01:32.economists reject Brexit. 82% alarmed over household income. This

:01:33. > :01:36.is a poll which would suggest, these experts are concerned about the

:01:37. > :01:44.long-term fall in GDP. You have better eyesight, Kevin, you can read

:01:45. > :01:47.this print. It is interesting, I was looking at Twitter earlier this

:01:48. > :01:52.evening and long before the page was printed, the first person to tweet

:01:53. > :01:58.link to the story was David Cameron. So obviously he was very

:01:59. > :02:03.keen, because as we all know, the remaining camp, the economy is their

:02:04. > :02:10.big driving message, and for leave it is very much about immigration. I

:02:11. > :02:17.think leave feel it is the only way they will get some traction so this

:02:18. > :02:23.is welcome. It is a poll of 600 economists, and they are from the,

:02:24. > :02:28.from big business, the city, all sorts of different sources. So this

:02:29. > :02:33.idea, because the Institute for Fiscal Studies has got a lot of

:02:34. > :02:36.criticism from the leave campaign, because all the economic forecasts

:02:37. > :02:45.are seen as propaganda for the remaining camp. But this sets out

:02:46. > :02:49.quite a broad range of opinions. And usually economists don't necessarily

:02:50. > :02:55.agree so whatever you think of David Cameron making hay with it, it is

:02:56. > :03:00.actually quite an interesting poll. It is a large number of people to

:03:01. > :03:04.have sought opinion from. I suppose the vote leave campaign would say if

:03:05. > :03:08.you speak to business leaders privately and they speak in a

:03:09. > :03:11.personal capacity, not representing their company or their organisation,

:03:12. > :03:17.they might say something rather different. They do feel able in a

:03:18. > :03:21.personal capacity to speak up for leaving. For those of us who covered

:03:22. > :03:26.the Scottish independence referendum there are a lot of parallels, and in

:03:27. > :03:30.terms of the economy, there were warnings about leaving the UK, that

:03:31. > :03:36.share prices would collapse, all that type of stuff. It is more or

:03:37. > :03:40.less the same argument but I'm not sure it cuts through for those who

:03:41. > :03:45.are the keenest on Brexit. I think it will work for swing voters, and

:03:46. > :03:51.you can see why they are going on this tack. But if you fervently

:03:52. > :03:55.believe in Brexit, then it is a few quid here or there, that is not

:03:56. > :03:59.going to change your mind. It is about national sovereignty and

:04:00. > :04:05.independence, bringing the laws back from Brussels. That is the way they

:04:06. > :04:09.would view it but as Lisa says, the economy remains a big strong suit.

:04:10. > :04:14.This is the one thing that they will just knock people over the head

:04:15. > :04:18.with, this warning, day after day. Almost economic Armageddon if we

:04:19. > :04:24.were to leave the EU and I think that will sway quite a lot of

:04:25. > :04:29.undecided voters. Newspapers love poll, it gives them a lead story and

:04:30. > :04:34.it is a very different set of circumstances for the BBC's listens.

:04:35. > :04:39.We are very wary of how we treat the results of polls but they can be

:04:40. > :04:44.very influential, beyond their readers. Yes, and getting back to

:04:45. > :04:48.Scotland for a second as well, if you remember the Sunday Times had a

:04:49. > :04:52.big hole a couple of weeks out from the Scottish referendum saying that

:04:53. > :04:56.US had gone into the lead and that caused massive panic, prime

:04:57. > :05:00.ministers questions was cancelled, the three parties ran up to Scotland

:05:01. > :05:05.to try and make people change their mind. It can really shift the

:05:06. > :05:10.political weather. And also, I can say this because the newspaper I

:05:11. > :05:15.edited no longer exist, but there is absolutely unequivocally not a very

:05:16. > :05:21.balanced press on this. Many more of the papers that we have in Great

:05:22. > :05:28.Britain are reporting with a bit of a pro- Brexit angle. So the

:05:29. > :05:33.Observer, whether or not... I will not say whether I would agree or not

:05:34. > :05:37.but it is welcome that there is a bit of a balance because as we can

:05:38. > :05:41.see from all the papers we will talk about tonight and the ones on the

:05:42. > :05:45.tomorrow, there is a lot of pro- Brexit rhetoric in the papers so

:05:46. > :05:50.there is no harm in having something that is portraying the other side.

:05:51. > :05:58.Let's look at the Sunday Times, and the impact of immigration -- impact

:05:59. > :06:03.on immigration of all of this. I hope David Cameron saw this before

:06:04. > :06:07.it got splashed over the Times, a letter accusing David Cameron of

:06:08. > :06:11.failing to get immigration down to the tens of thousands. Their

:06:12. > :06:17.argument is that he never will inside the EU. Yes, the fact that

:06:18. > :06:21.the statistics are standing at something like 330,000, the promise

:06:22. > :06:26.of tens of thousands was absurd to make in the first place. If we are

:06:27. > :06:33.to remain in the EU, that number will never come down. But what they

:06:34. > :06:36.don't look at here is, you know, they don't sort of go into the

:06:37. > :06:41.nitty-gritty of who those people are, what they are doing in

:06:42. > :06:45.Britain. It is just the sort of... Yet again, the broad sweep

:06:46. > :06:48.troublemaking and the kind of language they are using, talking

:06:49. > :06:56.about waiting list increasing appallingly, class sizes increasing

:06:57. > :07:02.appallingly, extremists being unable to be sent out of the EU, it is real

:07:03. > :07:09.drumbeat stuff. Is it true to say that it will never come down? If

:07:10. > :07:13.David Cameron remains in the European Union, if the rules are

:07:14. > :07:18.changed about when we can access in work benefits, his argument is that

:07:19. > :07:23.that might deter some people from coming even from within the European

:07:24. > :07:28.Union, with those freedom of movement rules. It might, but the

:07:29. > :07:34.argument is that most come here to work, not to claim benefits. You

:07:35. > :07:38.could argue that the National living wage going up to ?9 an hour will

:07:39. > :07:45.probably be more of a draw, if they think they can come from a country

:07:46. > :07:50.where the pay is much less than it is here. You can see why Britain

:07:51. > :07:55.would be such an attractive prospect and also even the Prime Minister no

:07:56. > :07:59.longer says he is going to hit that. He will not say that he will not hit

:08:00. > :08:05.tens of thousands but he will not say that he definitely will, and

:08:06. > :08:09.that speaks volumes. David Cameron to reach to care about migration,

:08:10. > :08:14.this is Priti Patel campaigning on the vote leave campaign trail. The

:08:15. > :08:20.suggestion he is out of touch but there are people in both camps who

:08:21. > :08:27.are very privileged, who come from very privileged backgrounds.

:08:28. > :08:29.Briefly, she said, Kevin will speak more about the politics but she is

:08:30. > :08:34.talking about people coming in and working as cleaners and domestics,

:08:35. > :08:41.to the sort of privileged elite, which is a little bit... We are

:08:42. > :08:45.talking about quite small numbers, most people come into work for the

:08:46. > :08:49.NHS, that is the biggest employer in Europe. I don't think we are talking

:08:50. > :08:58.about the lady who comes around dust at David Cameron's country home. I

:08:59. > :09:03.would say that Priti Patel has probably been the most outspoken of

:09:04. > :09:10.the government ministers against her own government, and this turns it up

:09:11. > :09:13.to 11. The attack on the Prime Minister and the Chancellor

:09:14. > :09:17.personally about their privileged backgrounds, I mean, she is not mad

:09:18. > :09:22.enough to actually name them but you don't have to be too much of a

:09:23. > :09:27.criminologist to read between the lines when she talks about leading

:09:28. > :09:33.campaigners and those who don't have their advantages. I think it cuts

:09:34. > :09:37.through in that ordinary voters, many of them from working class

:09:38. > :09:42.backgrounds, who have real concerns about migration, and when it comes

:09:43. > :09:47.to the main driving factors for them, this actually does cut

:09:48. > :09:51.through. Does the tone of it put people off? Does that make people

:09:52. > :09:58.think they don't want to vote at all? It is interesting, that is what

:09:59. > :10:01.David Cameron said some weeks ago. The voter apathy is going to be a

:10:02. > :10:06.massive problem. People will be turned off, which they are,

:10:07. > :10:12.overwhelmingly. We quite enjoy the Westminster bubble but the idea that

:10:13. > :10:16.it is going to be another 26 days, staggering towards the finish line,

:10:17. > :10:23.people are fed up with it. If it is just two messages, headbanging on

:10:24. > :10:28.the economy, people are going to feel disenchanted. Very quickly,

:10:29. > :10:33.NATO generals say that an invert is vital for security. NATO is an

:10:34. > :10:38.organisation which is not dependent obviously on being in or out of the

:10:39. > :10:43.EU but security is another big buzz issue. And they don't like

:10:44. > :10:47.uncertainty, and Britain leaving the EU, whether you think it is a good

:10:48. > :10:49.or bad thing, would disrupt a world order which would create

:10:50. > :10:56.uncertainty, that is what we definitely don't want. Going back to

:10:57. > :11:03.the Sunday Times, plastic fibres and era of dirty money. No more of the

:11:04. > :11:06.traditional cotton banknotes. We are getting a polymer version which you

:11:07. > :11:11.can live in your pocket and it will all be fine, come out in the wash.

:11:12. > :11:15.You can apparently wash about 90 degrees and it will come out the

:11:16. > :11:19.other end just as nice as it did before. Even better, you can pour a

:11:20. > :11:25.glass of red wine over it, it wipes clean. You can't tear it. You can

:11:26. > :11:30.obviously still lose it down the back of the couch. Whether this is

:11:31. > :11:34.intentional or not, the size of the banknote is going to be 15% smaller.

:11:35. > :11:42.What does this say about the value of money? Lisa Southgate got in

:11:43. > :11:45.touch to say that Northern Bank had plastic fibres in Northern Ireland

:11:46. > :11:51.for years, owned by the National Australia Bank, and they are pretty

:11:52. > :11:56.indestructible. There are still a few floating about. Australia was

:11:57. > :12:01.the first country to have plastic money, so that would make sense. We

:12:02. > :12:07.are not trailblazers. But not enough women still on them, whatever they

:12:08. > :12:13.are made of. Elisabeth Prior is being taken off the note, and we

:12:14. > :12:19.have Jane Austen to look forward to eventually, when they get around to

:12:20. > :12:21.the ?10 note. Going back to the Telegraph, I am going to show it to

:12:22. > :12:28.you on camera three. Dennis, thank you. They always laugh when I

:12:29. > :12:34.mention their names, it is very sweet. Books are now status symbols.

:12:35. > :12:39.They are something that we buy but don't necessarily read. That seems

:12:40. > :12:43.like a lot of money to spend. There are cheaper ways to have status

:12:44. > :12:48.symbols in your home. Rich people always say that they bought their

:12:49. > :12:52.books by the yard, now the rest of us are putting these big, heavy

:12:53. > :12:59.Booker shortlisted novels on how IKEA coffee tables to look

:13:00. > :13:06.intelligent -- our IKEA. We are reading on the readers, but we are

:13:07. > :13:12.buying the books nevertheless. -- e-readers. There is nothing nicer

:13:13. > :13:16.than holding a book and reading a book and smelling the ink, though.

:13:17. > :13:21.Or is that just me being odd? No, that is true, but looks have

:13:22. > :13:28.survived a bit better than CDs have from the new technology, when you

:13:29. > :13:32.have your Amazon reader and can download books, and people still

:13:33. > :13:36.like to have the physical book in your hand. You forget what you have

:13:37. > :13:41.read and if you want to recommend it to a friend, I love handing books on

:13:42. > :13:46.and getting books from other people, you can't do that with an electronic

:13:47. > :13:53.gadget. Also if you are falling asleep and hit yourself in the face

:13:54. > :13:57.with an e-reader, that is not very pleasant. Coming up next, it is the

:13:58. > :14:04.Film Review.