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:00:00. > :00:00.individual apparatus finals later today, you could see it from 4pm on

:00:00. > :00:14.BBC Two. Now, the papers. Hello and welcome to our Sunday

:00:15. > :00:18.morning edition of The Papers. With me Ian Birrell,

:00:19. > :00:20.Contributing Editor of the Mail on Sunday and author

:00:21. > :00:22.and Foreign Correspondent, Today's front pages? The digital

:00:23. > :00:29.Independent carries an image of the man who's on the front

:00:30. > :00:40.of virtually every paper - The Express on Sunday shows

:00:41. > :00:44.a picture of Muhammad Ali in his later years, with the quote

:00:45. > :00:46."Don't count the days, The Sun on Sunday shows a picture

:00:47. > :00:50.of a young Muhammad Ali back when he was still

:00:51. > :00:52.known as Cassius Clay. The Observer also shows a picture

:00:53. > :00:55.of Ali and in the corner has a poignant quote

:00:56. > :00:57.from President Obama and his wife. The Sunday Times also has a picture

:00:58. > :01:01.of Ali but leads on reports that the Royal Navy have been asked

:01:02. > :01:04.to patrol the English Channel to look for migrants

:01:05. > :01:08.trying to get to the UK. The Mail on Sunday leads with claims

:01:09. > :01:11.that the campaign for Britain to leave the EU has been infiltrated

:01:12. > :01:20.by dozens of far-right extremists. A look at the pictures first. We

:01:21. > :01:30.have spoken a lot about Muhammad Ali of the West 24 hours. -- over the

:01:31. > :01:37.last 24 hours. Clinton said he did not know if he was a boxer on a

:01:38. > :01:43.ballerina, and you get a sense of the Grace from the pictures. All the

:01:44. > :01:48.papers have a stunning array of pictures, including some of the

:01:49. > :01:54.greatest sports shots I have ever seen. Also, his dignity, political

:01:55. > :01:58.power and importance comes across. The writing reflects it. There are

:01:59. > :02:02.wonderful pieces about why he was the greatest sports person, what he

:02:03. > :02:05.was like to see, his extraordinary stop- start career, winning the

:02:06. > :02:10.title three times. And the incredible political legacy. A man

:02:11. > :02:14.at the peak of his ambitions and career, a world title holder,

:02:15. > :02:19.stepped back and said, I will not accept the draft, and took on the

:02:20. > :02:24.forces of the United States Establishment, successfully. And for

:02:25. > :02:27.such noble reasons. It is incredible, when you sit back and

:02:28. > :02:32.consider that, today, could somebody really do that? They would be a

:02:33. > :02:38.product for corporations. They would be savaged in the media. And it is

:02:39. > :02:43.important to reflect how important he was in the history of the

:02:44. > :02:49.century. This is a guy from the age of 25-29, the peak of a sportsman is

:02:50. > :02:53.career, everybody knows that, was out. And he did not have too. He

:02:54. > :02:59.could have gone to the Army and got a soft option. But he just refused.

:03:00. > :03:05.Exactly, it was Muhammad Ali being himself. He showed you can just be

:03:06. > :03:09.your own person. That was what gave him such an iconic status. His

:03:10. > :03:15.refusal to do what he was told. And it was not just at that time, he was

:03:16. > :03:19.obviously a polarising figure and then, but in later life he was a

:03:20. > :03:25.hero of the Grace who brought to confronting Parkinson's disease. An

:03:26. > :03:30.extremely difficult and debilitating illness. He lit the Olympic torch in

:03:31. > :03:33.Atlanta in very moving scenes. It was that grace he brought to that

:03:34. > :03:38.struggle as well which rounded out his legacy. Extraordinary man. All

:03:39. > :03:52.of the papers have done well in that. Some of the other content. The

:03:53. > :03:57.Sun, and this is part of our Brexit section which will go on for weeks,

:03:58. > :04:01.Boris Johnson, you cannot trust the Prime Minister. You have got people

:04:02. > :04:06.who sit down in Cabinet, the very top of the government. And they do

:04:07. > :04:11.not trust each other. And they say it publicly. We go from a story of a

:04:12. > :04:18.man of incredible ability and integrity... To talk about Boris

:04:19. > :04:24.Johnson. Behaving in the Ashley opposite way with shameless, self

:04:25. > :04:27.serving attempts. Attacking the Prime Minister first on immigration,

:04:28. > :04:33.now on the economy. And this is a man who wrote two versions of his

:04:34. > :04:37.column, reportedly, because he could not decide whether he wanted to go

:04:38. > :04:42.in or out. He was once pro-immigration and now sounds like

:04:43. > :04:45.Nigel Farage. Saying that the government which she is a part of

:04:46. > :04:54.cannot be trusted on newcomer. Bottomley shameless. -- cannot be

:04:55. > :05:02.trusted on the economy, utterly shameless. He is saying that we

:05:03. > :05:06.cannot avoid further bailouts down-the-line particularly if the EU

:05:07. > :05:09.brings in new members. But you are right, it is hard to take him

:05:10. > :05:17.seriously on any of these issues now. Your own paper has much on

:05:18. > :05:20.Brexit, or otherwise, including David Cameron suggesting that those

:05:21. > :05:27.who wish to leave have got it all wrong and are living in cloud cuckoo

:05:28. > :05:35.land. Looking at the splash, far right in plot to hijack Brexit. And

:05:36. > :05:40.on the inside pages... If I can get a bit, where are we? Here we are. A

:05:41. > :05:47.double page spread. The neo-Nazi Brexit supporter, and a number of

:05:48. > :05:54.stories about various individuals with far right connections who are

:05:55. > :06:01.part of the Brexit campaign. This is an important story. We had Michael

:06:02. > :06:05.Gove talking about a campaign of hope and optimism. And today he is

:06:06. > :06:11.talking about a one nation campaign, a progressive cause. Yet the reality

:06:12. > :06:14.is he has sided with, unfortunately, people like Ian Boris Johnson, they

:06:15. > :06:20.have sided with some of the most malevolent forces in populist

:06:21. > :06:25.politics today -- he and Boris Johnson. That is why it is supported

:06:26. > :06:31.on board by the head of the National front in France. Far right leaders

:06:32. > :06:34.in Holland. And now we see here that it is also supported by a host of

:06:35. > :06:43.very unpleasant people. Not just ultra conservatives. People jailed

:06:44. > :06:48.for thuggery. Out and out Nazis. This is not just about smearing

:06:49. > :06:55.people. You need to sit back and ask, why do people like this support

:06:56. > :06:59.the idea of Brexit? Cause, as Michael Gove says, they want a fair

:07:00. > :07:05.immigration system? That is unlikely. This is a divisive group

:07:06. > :07:10.of people pushing an isolationist, Little England cause, and that is

:07:11. > :07:16.the reality, people who I respect, who are moderate, pushing for noble

:07:17. > :07:19.reasons for a Brexit, still need to consider why these sorts of people

:07:20. > :07:25.also backed the same cause. Unfortunately they are divisive,

:07:26. > :07:32.attempting to stop immigration, and to withdraw Britain, not about

:07:33. > :07:38.sovereignty, but to pull back from and become isolationist in the

:07:39. > :07:45.world. When you see a woman with a swastika on her breast supporting

:07:46. > :07:49.this, yes, it is only a small part of it and there are plenty of good

:07:50. > :07:57.reasons not to want to be in Europe... Yes, and the campaign can

:07:58. > :08:01.say, we can help it if some people on the fringes give out leaflets and

:08:02. > :08:06.set up stalls. Yet this rogues gallery assembled by the newspaper

:08:07. > :08:11.is pretty shocking, isn't it? This chap sitting with his we want our

:08:12. > :08:18.country back sign between the graves of the Kray twins, that is pretty

:08:19. > :08:25.disturbing. This guy went to jail for several months for violence.

:08:26. > :08:29.Yes, and several others are associated with the BNP, the English

:08:30. > :08:32.Defence League, this woman has a Nazi swastika tattooed on her

:08:33. > :08:37.breast, and is out there handing out leaflets. At the very least the

:08:38. > :08:42.campaign should do something to distance themselves from these

:08:43. > :08:51.people in a more strident way. There is an old phrase, you are judged by

:08:52. > :08:55.your friends. Let's move on to the Observer. It has some interesting

:08:56. > :09:00.analysis on North versus South, young versus old, the new fault

:09:01. > :09:07.lines of the UK political map. A bar chart, even I can understand that,

:09:08. > :09:23.where you can see that Labour supporters mostly support Remain,

:09:24. > :09:31.Ukip supporters support Brexit, if you are university educated you are

:09:32. > :09:37.more likely to support Remain, and so on. This is a very divided

:09:38. > :09:42.country. Across the West we are seeing it. We see it in Austria, we

:09:43. > :09:49.see it with Donald Trump, and we see it in Britain, a division in

:09:50. > :09:59.attitudes. Although I would love to find the 3% of Ukip supporters who

:10:00. > :10:06.will vote to stay! That could be a statistical error, I am not sure!

:10:07. > :10:12.Over 60s are most likely to vote, which is alarming for those who want

:10:13. > :10:18.to Remain, but also, those with a higher level of education are also

:10:19. > :10:21.more likely to vote Remain, so we must be careful not to judge too

:10:22. > :10:28.much from this, but it does show a division, and why the future of the

:10:29. > :10:31.country, the young people, 18-39, are so strongly in favour of

:10:32. > :10:36.staying. It is interesting, I was told by a key campaigner wishing to

:10:37. > :10:41.stay that the most powerful message delivered to those who want to go,

:10:42. > :10:46.and who tend to be older, is, think about your grandchildren. And we can

:10:47. > :10:49.see why. Because there is an age divide. And the future of the

:10:50. > :10:54.country is with people who wish to stay in Europe. That is such a

:10:55. > :10:58.problem if we go out from Europe, when the next generation so clearly

:10:59. > :11:08.want to stay. The interesting thing is the correlation between the Leave

:11:09. > :11:12.voters and areas of economic decline. There is a growing gulf

:11:13. > :11:16.between London and the rest of the country. Whichever way the vote goes

:11:17. > :11:27.that is a real priority for the government to address. London should

:11:28. > :11:36.Brexit from the UK? In many ways it already has! I did argue that in the

:11:37. > :11:40.FT! Many places have just been abandoned to their fate and no

:11:41. > :11:45.government has come up with an effective solution. It is

:11:46. > :11:53.understandable, why people feel so angry, when they have been

:11:54. > :11:56.abandoned. Exactly, yes. Royal Marines may be called into the

:11:57. > :12:01.English Channel. I must declare an interest. I live in Kent and see

:12:02. > :12:05.frigates going up and down the channel quite often. Maybe they are

:12:06. > :12:08.just fishing, I don't know. They have not actually found anybody

:12:09. > :12:11.landing, one or two boats as you know have been rescued over the past

:12:12. > :12:19.year but the MoD say there is currently no request for a presence,

:12:20. > :12:23.so if you have that as your splash, and get that response by 10am the

:12:24. > :12:28.next morning, you cannot be pleased. That is not what you want, on a

:12:29. > :12:32.Sunday morning, only getting one go a week, to have your splash

:12:33. > :12:35.demolished in that way. The truth is there had been a few attempts to

:12:36. > :12:40.cross the Channel by some people but this story is very overinflated. The

:12:41. > :12:43.idea there is an invasion of people waiting to come across by boats, I

:12:44. > :12:48.speak to people and places like Jordan and Turkey, if you have the

:12:49. > :12:53.money you just fly over. You don't need to risk your life in the

:12:54. > :13:01.world's is used maritime area. -- busiest. It is very busy and

:13:02. > :13:04.dangerous. There is an interesting story about a former French

:13:05. > :13:08.paratrooper who took across 12 Albanians on his yacht, simply

:13:09. > :13:13.cruised up a river in heaven and dropped them off at the key and then

:13:14. > :13:19.went to a point after. This was a few years ago and he could court and

:13:20. > :13:24.fined of course. -- Devon. Whether the Royal Marines would catch him I

:13:25. > :13:29.am not so sure. The headline is perhaps the problem with this story.

:13:30. > :13:34.Royal Navy called in to hold migrants makes it sound like there

:13:35. > :13:46.will be destroyers and battleships. Where would we them actually? The

:13:47. > :13:50.new aircraft carriers! There are a few boats the Royal Navy users to

:13:51. > :13:56.control fishing grounds... As we know, it is not about physical

:13:57. > :14:02.action, it is about intelligence and... Much bigger forces are at

:14:03. > :14:11.work than can be held back by a few boats. The easiest way to stop

:14:12. > :14:14.immigration is to crash the economy! The Chilcott report. It says

:14:15. > :14:22.Alistair Campbell is in the clear but Tony Blair will, Cropper, that

:14:23. > :14:30.is basically what they say. I am wary of these stories, there are a

:14:31. > :14:34.lot of leaks from people attempting to protect themselves. We are

:14:35. > :14:39.getting a semblance but we will not know until the report comes out in

:14:40. > :14:45.July so we need to be wary. I'm in the excitement before Hutton, all

:14:46. > :14:49.these stories breaking out, then it was the biggest whitewashing

:14:50. > :14:52.history. So we need to be cautious. But many people will be very happy

:14:53. > :15:00.if that does have his reputation trashed. -- if Tony Blair has his

:15:01. > :15:06.reputation trashed. I am not so sure Alistair Campbell should escape

:15:07. > :15:09.scot-free given his own activities. From the story it does sound like

:15:10. > :15:15.the Tony Blair camp is in crisis mode, thinking about how they will

:15:16. > :15:24.respond. But not the Campbell camp! Exactly. Walking away, Whistling!

:15:25. > :15:29.For me one of the stories of the week is this awful story in the

:15:30. > :15:32.Observer, the billion-dollar trade behind the scandal of the Asian

:15:33. > :15:38.Tiger Temple. We were wondering, what on earth are similar tigers,

:15:39. > :15:45.these dead tiger cubs, doing in the fridge in this... An extraordinary

:15:46. > :15:49.story. I recommend reading this. It shows the way that conservation and

:15:50. > :15:55.tourism and what seems to be a trade in wildlife parks, have all been

:15:56. > :15:59.blurred. 250,000 people a year visit to see these beautiful animals, they

:16:00. > :16:03.thought they were seeing a conservation project, actually it

:16:04. > :16:07.seems to be some kind of factory to exploit tiger parts and sell them.

:16:08. > :16:12.And they are saying it is not even that rare, it happens elsewhere. The

:16:13. > :16:19.statistics are horrific. Not just the legality, but also these

:16:20. > :16:24.creatures are endangered... The many things we cannot do anything about,

:16:25. > :16:29.but we should be able to do something about this, shouldn't we?

:16:30. > :16:32.We would think so, and that is why so many law-enforcement officials

:16:33. > :16:37.raided this temple and found these awful scenes of tiger carcasses in

:16:38. > :16:42.freezers. Yet the story points out that happens in many places. And

:16:43. > :16:49.there are only 3000 tigers left in the wild. Which is why the price

:16:50. > :16:52.they command in China is so high. ?40,000 for tiger skin. It is that

:16:53. > :16:58.the demand which is driving the trade. The only way to stop it is to

:16:59. > :17:04.try to persuade Chinese and other countries, in Asia, to stop seeking

:17:05. > :17:08.out that these products. Again, interestingly, it is environmental

:17:09. > :17:13.groups, environmental investigation issues, they actually stopped this,

:17:14. > :17:17.not the authorities. We hear that time and again, actually the

:17:18. > :17:23.authorities do not do much until forced. Now we are seeing the same

:17:24. > :17:30.trade with lines, also endangered, and all sorts of other animals. --

:17:31. > :17:35.lions. The authorities need to take a tougher line on this. Thank you,

:17:36. > :17:38.Ian and Matthew. We take a look at the front pages every evening at

:17:39. > :17:42.10:30pm and 11:30pm here on BBC News.