25/06/2016

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:00:20. > :00:29.Welcome to our look at head to the poll that -- look ahead to the

:00:30. > :00:33.papers tomorrow. It feels like we should be having a dinner party

:00:34. > :00:38.there are so many others here. We don't have long, but we'll be back

:00:39. > :00:45.again at 11:30pm. Let's start with the mail on Sunday. Five rivals to

:00:46. > :00:53.fight Boris for number ten. Only five? Only five! If you read the

:00:54. > :00:57.Sunday Times tomorrow there are six, maybe seven. We are inundated with

:00:58. > :01:03.people who want to lead the nation. I suppose we should be flattered.

:01:04. > :01:09.Theresa May, Jeremy Hunt, fresh from his doctors strike, Nicky Morgan.

:01:10. > :01:17.I'm told George Freeman will toss his hat into the ring, too. What a

:01:18. > :01:22.smorgasbord of fun we are awaiting. Everyone quickly googles. We can't

:01:23. > :01:27.find some of the key players. Nobody has seen George Osborne, but Boris

:01:28. > :01:31.Johnson has been out in his whites. At one point we thought George

:01:32. > :01:36.Osborne was a shoo-in to be next Prime Minister, but after a few

:01:37. > :01:38.hiccups with the Budget and now the referendum campaign where he made

:01:39. > :01:44.some harsh warnings that upset a lot of people in its party, and

:01:45. > :01:49.so-called project fear, he seems to have disappeared and nobody can find

:01:50. > :01:53.him. There is some suggestion that his leadership hopes aren't totally

:01:54. > :02:00.dead and he might be ringing round MPs to see if he has a chance of

:02:01. > :02:04.getting onto the ballot paper. The new dictionary definition of

:02:05. > :02:09.optimistic. Douglas, we haven't had you here and we are very glad for

:02:10. > :02:17.you to give the Irish perspective. How is this being viewed in Dublin?

:02:18. > :02:21.Very gloomily. It was a shock. The Irish covenant had been openly

:02:22. > :02:25.campaigning for a Remain vote and people are worried. People are

:02:26. > :02:31.worried about the economic hit, which is automatic. And then worries

:02:32. > :02:36.about the future of the border and the future of the relationship

:02:37. > :02:41.between Ireland and Britain. As far as the economy is concerned, that

:02:42. > :02:46.didn't seem to be necessarily quite what everybody was worried about. We

:02:47. > :02:51.know immigration was important. How much of an issue is immigration from

:02:52. > :02:58.the EU for Ireland? It's not an issue at all. Ireland, like Britain

:02:59. > :03:04.and Sweden in 2004, also agreed to allow all the new member states, as

:03:05. > :03:11.many as wished, straightaway. A huge number did come to Ireland. About

:03:12. > :03:15.17% in Ireland today were born outside the country, but there has

:03:16. > :03:20.not really been any major social problem and there is no

:03:21. > :03:30.anti-immigration party in Ireland. Let's look at the Sunday Telegraph.

:03:31. > :03:36.2 million is a lot, but nothing in comparison with the 17 million who

:03:37. > :03:40.said they wanted us to leave the EU. It's a fairly short space of time to

:03:41. > :03:46.garner 2 million signatures. Most of the biggest Ibra editions have been

:03:47. > :03:54.a million at most so it's a fairly big number. As you say, it won't

:03:55. > :03:58.change anything. The time it starts getting interesting is if you start

:03:59. > :04:02.hitting 17 million. Many people would still say the referendum

:04:03. > :04:08.stands. It's not going to make a difference. This is it. We still

:04:09. > :04:13.keep talking about the status of this result. It's not binding, its

:04:14. > :04:18.advisory. It would be a brave government that overturned it. If

:04:19. > :04:23.you mean brave -- by brave, suicidal, yes. It just won't happen.

:04:24. > :04:30.Signing up 3000 people a minute, good for them. If it did get 18

:04:31. > :04:34.million, that would be interesting. Some of the context of what happens

:04:35. > :04:39.next in terms of the deal and what we are expecting from the

:04:40. > :04:43.negotiation may be framed by the public reaction to what's going on

:04:44. > :04:47.with the economic problems and what appears to be a serious case of

:04:48. > :04:53.buyers remorse setting in with some people over the way they voted, but

:04:54. > :04:57.in practice, this is the biggest democratic enterprise in this

:04:58. > :05:02.country since 1992. It's pretty hard to see any credible political party

:05:03. > :05:09.trying to overturn it and survive as a government. It's very interesting.

:05:10. > :05:18.We are in uncharted territory with Article 50. When referendums have

:05:19. > :05:22.not gone the way that people have wanted in Ireland, they have just

:05:23. > :05:27.held them again. That's happened twice. It happened to the Danes over

:05:28. > :05:33.Maastricht. What happens is the mood changes. You do have buyers remorse.

:05:34. > :05:36.A lot of people who didn't go out to vote the first time to go out the

:05:37. > :05:40.second time and you sometimes come back with some kind of

:05:41. > :05:44.renegotiation. With this one, nobody knows exactly what the referendum

:05:45. > :05:48.means. They know people voted to leave the EU, but they don't know in

:05:49. > :05:57.what way, what kind of relationship they will be in the future. That's

:05:58. > :05:59.the area where it could become very, very interesting. Even if Britain

:06:00. > :06:01.doesn't decide to overturn the referendum outcome, it could end up

:06:02. > :06:06.being a different situation to the one a lot of people who voted Leave

:06:07. > :06:12.expected. There are a lot of reasons people like giving us for them

:06:13. > :06:15.wanting to leave. It might be to do with sovereignty, not feeling we

:06:16. > :06:21.have to listen to this remote place called Brussels any longer, and we

:06:22. > :06:25.get better democracy back. That's what a lot of people say. In

:06:26. > :06:30.constitutional terms, there are all sorts of ways it could work out. We

:06:31. > :06:34.were talking to Toby Young last night and he was saying we could

:06:35. > :06:41.have associate membership, which has been talked about. A lot of people

:06:42. > :06:45.think what we would always end up with was a associate membership. The

:06:46. > :06:50.referendum has decided we'll have that outside the EU rather than in

:06:51. > :06:54.it. The negotiations we are about to have in some ways will be like what

:06:55. > :06:57.we might have ended up with if we'd stayed in and things had gradually

:06:58. > :07:01.changed over a couple of years. There's a lot of evidence other EU

:07:02. > :07:08.countries might start to think about freedom of movement as well. It's

:07:09. > :07:12.also what we are able to negotiate with the other 27 members. That's

:07:13. > :07:15.right. It's difficult because we've had this shock result and everybody

:07:16. > :07:20.is bracing themselves and thinking what does it mean and where do we go

:07:21. > :07:24.next? We will get some clarity on the planned on Monday when I guessed

:07:25. > :07:29.David Cameron will give a statement to Parliament about what happens

:07:30. > :07:34.next. There is a suggestion about do we invoke Article 50 or through an

:07:35. > :07:38.act of Parliament. At the same time we're having pressure put on us by

:07:39. > :07:44.the other European leaders to get on with it and the question remains

:07:45. > :07:48.about what the wiggle room will be. And who cares what David Cameron

:07:49. > :07:53.thinks? If Boris Johnson Michael Gove disagree with David Cameron,

:07:54. > :07:56.who is now in charge? What happens when Boris Johnson and Michael Gove

:07:57. > :08:01.disagree with each other? That's what we'll see in the coming months.

:08:02. > :08:06.We must look at the Observer and think about what's happening with

:08:07. > :08:14.Labour. Hilary Benn seeks to depose Corbyn. Jeremy Corbyn has said he

:08:15. > :08:17.would stand again. That's the problem Labour faces. Unless Jeremy

:08:18. > :08:22.Corbyn walks away, it's difficult to get rid of him because ultimately

:08:23. > :08:26.the party rules state that if there is a vote of no confidence, he can

:08:27. > :08:31.go back on the ballot paper and he will just do that and win again. He

:08:32. > :08:35.said that emphatically this morning. Who wants to stand against him? We

:08:36. > :08:40.might have a general election in the next year and if you're the Labour

:08:41. > :08:45.Party candidate, you'll probably get massacred. If you want to lead

:08:46. > :08:47.Labour, you're probably better off waiting for Corbyn to lose the

:08:48. > :08:55.general election and come in afterwards. Any shuddering in the

:08:56. > :08:58.Taoiseach? They are shuddering. He's been shuddering more less all year

:08:59. > :09:03.because your most lost the last election and is just about hanging

:09:04. > :09:13.on. It hasn't been straightforward. With all of this stuff, a lot of the

:09:14. > :09:16.Europeans would like this thing to move very, very quickly. The French

:09:17. > :09:19.Foreign Minister said he wanted David Cameron out within days and

:09:20. > :09:22.doesn't see what everybody is hanging about four. I think there

:09:23. > :09:25.will be pressure to move things as quickly as possible. That's it for

:09:26. > :09:31.the moment. We'll be back for another look at the papers at

:09:32. > :09:34.11:30pm for now, thank you all very much indeed. It's time for the

:09:35. > :09:51.weather. Hello. It was a very lively start

:09:52. > :09:52.the weekend for many parts of the UK. The radar sequence