0:00:00 > 0:00:03The Papers with Martine Croxall and her guests.
0:00:14 > 0:00:17Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be
0:00:17 > 0:00:19bringing us tomorrow.
0:00:19 > 0:00:22With me here in the studio is Toby Young, Associate Editor
0:00:22 > 0:00:24for The Spectator, and political commentator, Jo Philips.
0:00:24 > 0:00:28And joining us from Edinburgh is David Torrance
0:00:28 > 0:00:31columnist for The Herald.
0:00:31 > 0:00:34Tomorrow's front pages, starting with
0:00:34 > 0:00:38The Daily Mail front page celebrates the Leave vote -
0:00:38 > 0:00:41their picture has jubilant crowds and the headline "Take a bow
0:00:41 > 0:00:43Britain."
0:00:43 > 0:00:45The Express has more on the resignation of David Cameron
0:00:45 > 0:00:47and names Boris Johnson as the favourite to take over
0:00:47 > 0:00:48as prime minister.
0:00:48 > 0:00:51The Times describes today's events as a "Brexit Earthquake."
0:00:51 > 0:00:53It also features a picture of David Cameron and his wife
0:00:53 > 0:00:55outside 10 Downing Street.
0:00:55 > 0:00:58The Telegraph describes yesterday's vote as the "Birth
0:00:58 > 0:00:59of a New Britain."
0:00:59 > 0:01:02It says Boris Johnson and Michael Gove are preparing a bid
0:01:02 > 0:01:04to take control of the Conservative party.
0:01:04 > 0:01:08The Guardian simply says: "Over and Out" as it wraps up key events
0:01:08 > 0:01:10from today's decision to leave the EU.
0:01:10 > 0:01:14The Daily Mirror has a picture of an anguished looking
0:01:14 > 0:01:25Samantha Cameron as she watches her husband resign -
0:01:25 > 0:01:27asking "So what the hell happens now?"
0:01:27 > 0:01:30The Sun focusses on the career of David Cameron and why he has
0:01:30 > 0:01:31decided to quit.
0:01:31 > 0:01:33And the Scottish Daily Mail has the headline: "Disunited Kingdom."
0:01:33 > 0:01:36It says the result of today's referendum has torn Britain apart.
0:01:36 > 0:01:40Last night, about 10:00 o'clock, Nigel Farage called it for Remain,
0:01:40 > 0:01:45then changed his mind, when we you convinced?
0:01:45 > 0:01:49Well, I suppose the first indication that the exit poll and the poll that
0:01:49 > 0:01:54Ipsos MORI had done on the day - both of which indicated that Remain
0:01:54 > 0:01:56win quite comfortably - the first indication
0:01:56 > 0:01:58that they were wrong was the result from Sunderland.
0:01:58 > 0:02:01I mean, first the result from Newcastle in which Remain won
0:02:01 > 0:02:04but not by the margin it was expected to and then
0:02:04 > 0:02:07the result from Sunderland in which Leave won by a far greater
0:02:07 > 0:02:10margin than it needed to if Leave were to win overall.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13Let's look t The Times, one of our first front pages,
0:02:13 > 0:02:15"Brexit Earthquake" - there's a picture of the Camerons
0:02:15 > 0:02:17outside Number 10.
0:02:17 > 0:02:19The Prime Minister announces his resignation.
0:02:19 > 0:02:21Vote to leave threatens break-up of the UK.
0:02:21 > 0:02:24David, I want to come to the idea of a second independence referendum
0:02:24 > 0:02:29a little bit later if we can, but the fact is, the UK is massively
0:02:29 > 0:02:36divided and Scotland already looks like another country?
0:02:36 > 0:02:42Yes, this is part of an ongoing process.
0:02:42 > 0:02:44I have covered all these elections and referendums for the past few
0:02:44 > 0:02:47years - it's all catching up with me tonight,
0:02:47 > 0:02:48I can tell you.
0:02:48 > 0:02:49CHUCKLES.
0:02:49 > 0:02:52It doesn't feel like another country in many ways and you cannot argue
0:02:52 > 0:02:55with the differential vote like that.
0:02:55 > 0:02:59The fact remains that Scotland voted overwhelmingly for Remain
0:02:59 > 0:03:03although not to gloss over 38% of Scots who did back Leave -
0:03:03 > 0:03:06not an insignificant minority.
0:03:06 > 0:03:10Northern Ireland backed Remain and yet south, the other two
0:03:10 > 0:03:16quarters of the country, voted decisively for Leave.
0:03:16 > 0:03:18I say decisively but it was quite narrow.
0:03:18 > 0:03:23And that just changes the context completely.
0:03:23 > 0:03:26It changes the frame of reference for all these debates we've had over
0:03:26 > 0:03:30the past few years about Scottish independence, about the future
0:03:30 > 0:03:31of the UK.
0:03:31 > 0:03:35It also makes you question opinion opinion polls again and again?
0:03:35 > 0:03:40Yes, I remember talking not so many days ago, weeks ago,
0:03:40 > 0:03:44about the pressure on the pollsters because they got it so wrong.
0:03:44 > 0:03:50Even the private polling that hedge funds and investment banks
0:03:50 > 0:03:53were doing were still not accurate because we saw that great surge
0:03:53 > 0:03:56yesterday on the money market that then tumbled overnight
0:03:56 > 0:03:58and then came back.
0:03:58 > 0:04:03Clearly, they were banking on Remain, just by a whisker.
0:04:03 > 0:04:07There will be a lot of questions about the polling but I still think
0:04:07 > 0:04:10many, many people went to the polling booth yesterday
0:04:10 > 0:04:13and actually had not made up their mind until they got in there.
0:04:13 > 0:04:17I mean, every conversation that any of us have had -
0:04:17 > 0:04:20and it is fantastic that it has energised people talking
0:04:20 > 0:04:24about politics on something about such huge importance
0:04:24 > 0:04:27for generations to come - but there were still a lot of people
0:04:27 > 0:04:30wobbling on the brink.
0:04:30 > 0:04:34The Daily Mail, says it has published a historic edition,
0:04:34 > 0:04:35"Take a bow Britain."
0:04:35 > 0:04:38It was the day the quiet people of Britain rose up
0:04:38 > 0:04:40against an arrogant, out-of-touch political class
0:04:40 > 0:04:43and a contemptuous Brussels elite.
0:04:43 > 0:04:47It goes on to talk about the tumultuous events of our time.
0:04:47 > 0:04:50Tim Farron, the Democrats leader, talking today about the fact that
0:04:50 > 0:04:54given that this has divided people so deeply, now is the time
0:04:54 > 0:04:59to try to bring everybody together but how do we do that?
0:04:59 > 0:05:01Precisely.
0:05:01 > 0:05:05As Peter Hennessy said earlier today - the constitutional historian -
0:05:05 > 0:05:09this is about resetting the dials and there is a great chance here,
0:05:09 > 0:05:12actually, for the reshaping of British politics.
0:05:12 > 0:05:18It is absolutely ridiculous, with no sense of irony,
0:05:18 > 0:05:22that The Mail talks about the quiet people of Britain rising up
0:05:22 > 0:05:25against an arrogant out-of-touch political class and then goes
0:05:25 > 0:05:30on page after page praising Michael Gove and Boris Johnson
0:05:30 > 0:05:33who are part of the political class.
0:05:33 > 0:05:38It is clear, utter nonsense but what I think is needed is a lot
0:05:38 > 0:05:46less of these jingoistic celebration and a lot of sensible calm
0:05:46 > 0:05:48what happens next, it is about negotiations.
0:05:48 > 0:05:52What is the plan?
0:05:52 > 0:05:57It is true that Michael Gove and Boris Johnson are members
0:05:57 > 0:06:00of the political class but it is also true
0:06:00 > 0:06:06that they managed to harness a popular revolt against
0:06:06 > 0:06:11the establishment and one of the reason Remain did not do
0:06:11 > 0:06:14better is because David Cameron made no attempt to try and dress up
0:06:14 > 0:06:16the Remain campaign as anything other than the establishment
0:06:16 > 0:06:23defending the status quo.
0:06:23 > 0:06:32He made a mistake by lining up the IMF, the Treasury,
0:06:32 > 0:06:36the president of the US and it enabled Boris and Michael to whip up
0:06:36 > 0:06:41popular resentment and it is not just a phenomenon confined
0:06:41 > 0:06:47to Britain, you see it across America and Europe as well.
0:06:47 > 0:06:50How much have the winners been able to celebrate given the fact
0:06:50 > 0:06:58immediately Nigel Farage was asked when does the NHS get the money,
0:06:58 > 0:07:01when does immigration get kerned and the answer is our,
0:07:01 > 0:07:03not yet or maybe not ever.
0:07:03 > 0:07:06Nigel Farage was not part of the official campaign.
0:07:06 > 0:07:08He is not an MP.
0:07:08 > 0:07:14We are not about to find ourselves in Nigel Farage's Britain...
0:07:14 > 0:07:24But a lot of people will actually say that Nigel Farage has dominated.
0:07:24 > 0:07:28He is the person that has energised and that if it was not for him
0:07:28 > 0:07:36we would never have had a referendum.
0:07:36 > 0:07:40Scotland went through this with a close vote with the independence
0:07:40 > 0:07:43referendum, arguably Scotland was very divided.
0:07:43 > 0:08:01How deeply have those divisions remained over the last few months?
0:08:01 > 0:08:06There are two polorised cases.
0:08:06 > 0:08:14People who lost will tell you it was very divisive and nasty
0:08:14 > 0:08:17on the winning side would tell you it was a festival
0:08:17 > 0:08:18of democracy and uplifting.
0:08:18 > 0:08:21The truth is somewhere in between.
0:08:21 > 0:08:23Both accounts are caricatures.
0:08:23 > 0:08:25In a polarised referendum, which is essentially
0:08:25 > 0:08:27about existential question of who you are, your identity
0:08:27 > 0:08:31and the future of the country.
0:08:31 > 0:08:38Of course, it is going to be divisive.
0:08:38 > 0:08:40There is no room for nuance or a middle way.
0:08:40 > 0:08:51My overwhelming sense was deja vu.
0:08:51 > 0:08:58Eve nthe lines were the same.
0:08:58 > 0:09:01The delegitimisation of experts and the media and facts
0:09:01 > 0:09:04was all horribly familiar but they were good signs as well.
0:09:04 > 0:09:10The turnout was high.
0:09:10 > 0:09:13Not as it was a few years ago in Scotland but previously
0:09:13 > 0:09:16it was a much more salient issue but anything that engages
0:09:16 > 0:09:19the proportion of the election...
0:09:19 > 0:09:21The other thing that came out of the Scottish referendum is this
0:09:21 > 0:09:23rejuvenation with new leaders.
0:09:23 > 0:09:26We saw the demise of Murphy but look at Davidson coming out
0:09:26 > 0:09:29as a new superstar.
0:09:29 > 0:09:35It is quite striking that the two most impressive operators
0:09:35 > 0:09:38in the British Isles are Davidson and the First Minister Nicola
0:09:38 > 0:09:45Sturgeon.
0:09:45 > 0:09:47Cast your mind back to 1999 when the devolusion experiment
0:09:47 > 0:09:48was first embarked upon.
0:09:48 > 0:09:53It was said that Scottish politicians will no longer
0:09:53 > 0:09:57have a place in the UK stage but turned out to be far
0:09:57 > 0:09:59from the truth
0:09:59 > 0:10:02Although it looks very different now, we have a very
0:10:02 > 0:10:07high profile figure.
0:10:07 > 0:10:10The Daily Express and The Sun, "We are out of the EU."
0:10:10 > 0:10:13The Express comes to us pretty early on.
0:10:13 > 0:10:14Boris as next PM.
0:10:14 > 0:10:21We do not know.
0:10:21 > 0:10:26And we can gloss over the David Cameron story.
0:10:26 > 0:10:30Why should he hang around?
0:10:30 > 0:10:33Given that he does not believe in Britain's withdrawal from the EU
0:10:33 > 0:10:38and given that there is going to be a lot of hard work to be done
0:10:38 > 0:10:42to work out what the new settlement is, what the new relationship
0:10:42 > 0:10:52is with the EU, it is understandable he did not want to do that.
0:10:52 > 0:10:55But he is the one who is responsible for bringing the referendum
0:10:55 > 0:10:56in the first place.
0:10:56 > 0:11:01He did not need to.
0:11:01 > 0:11:03He could have said, I'm here to govern.
0:11:03 > 0:11:06He may not have won the election if he had not agreed
0:11:06 > 0:11:12to hold the referendum.
0:11:12 > 0:11:14One of the ways the story is reported is slightly
0:11:14 > 0:11:16jumping the gun.
0:11:16 > 0:11:20The headline, we are out of the EU.
0:11:20 > 0:11:30Everywhere it has been reported as a foregone conclusion.
0:11:30 > 0:11:34That has been the will of British people but it is much more likely
0:11:34 > 0:11:37I think that the leaders of the European Union will now come
0:11:37 > 0:11:39back and make a different offer, some form of associate membership
0:11:39 > 0:11:42which is probably what David Cameron should have gone for.
0:11:42 > 0:11:45Surely, if that is the case, people who voted to get out,
0:11:45 > 0:11:53will say that is not what we voted for.
0:11:53 > 0:11:58As of yet, Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty has
0:11:58 > 0:12:03not been invoked.
0:12:03 > 0:12:06It does not have to be triggered for ages and ages.
0:12:06 > 0:12:09We are ready had various European leaders are saying,
0:12:09 > 0:12:23you decided to go so go and you can understand that they want to do it
0:12:23 > 0:12:26and you can also understand the thinking behind making it
0:12:26 > 0:12:33complicated for us.
0:12:33 > 0:12:39In other European countries, as we have seen by the congratulations
0:12:39 > 0:12:42by Le Pen and other right wing parties to sway other right wing
0:12:42 > 0:12:44nations to do the same.
0:12:44 > 0:12:46Of course they want negotiations quite quickly because there are also
0:12:46 > 0:12:49elections coming up in Spain, Holland and France next year
0:12:49 > 0:12:51but this is about who is going to negotiate.
0:12:51 > 0:12:54Clearly, David Cameron who has already said long before this,
0:12:54 > 0:12:57that he would step down before the end of this Parliament cannot be
0:12:57 > 0:13:00in a position to negotiate and it is a two-year minimum deal
0:13:00 > 0:13:01if we use Article 50.
0:13:01 > 0:13:04There is an article in the FT which talks about whether Scotland
0:13:04 > 0:13:13or even Northern Ireland could do what Denmark has done an it stayed
0:13:13 > 0:13:16stayed
0:13:16 > 0:13:18in their EU but parts of his kingdom, Greenland,
0:13:18 > 0:13:19decided to leave.
0:13:19 > 0:13:20The Fera Islands as well.
0:13:20 > 0:13:26That is in a similar situation.
0:13:26 > 0:13:30The point to make is the European Union is a highly
0:13:30 > 0:13:35flexible political organisation and even if we set out...
0:13:35 > 0:13:44And the truth is, I am old enough to remember German reunification,
0:13:44 > 0:13:47it was dealt with ii in a matter of months.
0:13:47 > 0:13:48A newly expanded Germany.
0:13:48 > 0:13:55I think they called it internal enlargement.
0:13:55 > 0:14:02I think, the First Minister spoke about this this morning,
0:14:02 > 0:14:05she is going to engage directly with Brussell and she will seek
0:14:05 > 0:14:10what the mood is there and how willing they are to be flexible
0:14:10 > 0:14:13in their approach to the bits of the UK, and it might even include
0:14:13 > 0:14:14London...
0:14:20 > 0:14:23The Mirror says, what happens now?
0:14:23 > 0:14:27Day one of Brexit Britain.
0:14:27 > 0:14:31Of course the pound fell sharply, but then there was a rally and be
0:14:31 > 0:14:35-- we saw a huge amount wiped off shares and the losses
0:14:35 > 0:14:40were catastrophic, we were told.
0:14:40 > 0:14:46Some people who voted for Leave were surprised that this had
0:14:46 > 0:14:51happene and then they said, if I had known that this
0:14:51 > 0:14:56was going to happen and my vote would actually count
0:14:56 > 0:15:02I would have voted to Remain.
0:15:02 > 0:15:04How naive have some people been?
0:15:04 > 0:15:07I think taking back your democratic rights does take courage
0:15:07 > 0:15:08because there are always risks involved.
0:15:08 > 0:15:11Sometimes, the following day, when you become more aware
0:15:11 > 0:15:18of what those risks are, you get a bit of buyers' remorse.
0:15:18 > 0:15:20But in time I think people won't regret their decision.
0:15:20 > 0:15:23The FTSE 100 did finish 2% up on the week.
0:15:23 > 0:15:26But what is the plan?
0:15:26 > 0:15:29I heard Brexit campaigners saying that what we need to do is gather
0:15:29 > 0:15:33round us some experts, business leaders and lawyers.
0:15:33 > 0:15:37But a lot of people were saying, the reason I voted to leave
0:15:37 > 0:15:41is because I am sick of hearing from experts.
0:15:41 > 0:15:44Well, the plan, as Boris set out in his original column
0:15:44 > 0:15:46in the Daily Telegraph, in which he declared
0:15:46 > 0:15:49that he would be campaigning for Leave, was to try and get
0:15:49 > 0:15:53the British public to reject the EU in the hope that the EU would then
0:15:53 > 0:16:03come back with an offer not just for us but for everyone.
0:16:03 > 0:16:05I think the reason why that would fly is because the result
0:16:05 > 0:16:08was so close and you can't have an outcome which just
0:16:08 > 0:16:09favours one side.
0:16:09 > 0:16:13It has got to be a compromise.
0:16:13 > 0:16:22Because it was so close?
0:16:22 > 0:16:25Yes, there would then be a second referundum on whether to embrace
0:16:26 > 0:16:27the new offer on the table.
0:16:27 > 0:16:30I don't think that Nicola Sturgeon is going to trigger a second
0:16:30 > 0:16:32referendum before she knows what the final agreement
0:16:32 > 0:16:34between Britain and the EU would be.
0:16:34 > 0:16:38Wouldn't that be sensible?
0:16:38 > 0:16:40Of course it would, but it is high stakes.
0:16:40 > 0:16:41It would be high stakes.
0:16:41 > 0:16:42Extremely high stakes.
0:16:42 > 0:16:45And it would be sensible, to go back to your analogy,
0:16:45 > 0:16:47there should be a buyer's cooling off period.
0:16:47 > 0:16:48It is frightening.
0:16:48 > 0:16:50Did you want to take out the extra warranty?
0:16:50 > 0:16:53Not at that price!
0:16:53 > 0:16:56No, alright.
0:16:56 > 0:17:00But in actual fact there will be people who don't realise
0:17:00 > 0:17:02what they voted for, which doesn't mean
0:17:02 > 0:17:04they are stupid or ignorant,
0:17:04 > 0:17:15it just means in the noise over the last few weeks of people
0:17:15 > 0:17:18shouting and counter claims and what has been a very badtempered
0:17:18 > 0:17:21campaign, it's amazing so many people turned out to vote.
0:17:21 > 0:17:23But they do often count on people not turning
0:17:23 > 0:17:27out, don't they?
0:17:27 > 0:17:31Now there needs to be a bit of time and reflection with precisely that,
0:17:31 > 0:17:34but does Europe want us to stay that badly?
0:17:34 > 0:17:36Do they want Jeremy Corbyn or Boris Johnson
0:17:36 > 0:17:40as Prime Minister?
0:17:40 > 0:17:45I think unless they come up with a 2-tiered system EU
0:17:45 > 0:17:48is destined to collapse as there is no appetite among
0:17:48 > 0:17:51the public of so many European countries to be part
0:17:51 > 0:17:52of a united Europe.
0:17:52 > 0:17:56Let's look at pages six and seven of the Mail.
0:17:56 > 0:17:59Will Boris Grab the Crown?
0:17:59 > 0:18:03It talks about who the runners and riders are, the people who may
0:18:03 > 0:18:05or may not want to throw their hat in the ring.
0:18:05 > 0:18:09David, how is this looked upon?
0:18:09 > 0:18:11We know the Conservatives in Westminster elections
0:18:11 > 0:18:16don't do well.
0:18:16 > 0:18:19Who is the money on up there for becoming the Labour leader?
0:18:19 > 0:18:21Because Jeremy Corbyn isn't necessarily looking
0:18:21 > 0:18:25particularly safe, is he?
0:18:25 > 0:18:28Well, yeah, but this again highlights the growing distance
0:18:28 > 0:18:32between Scotland and England.
0:18:32 > 0:18:36Ruth Davidson a few days ago was having a very effective pop
0:18:36 > 0:18:42at Boris Johnson at Wembley Stadium, so I think that is one to watch.
0:18:42 > 0:18:46Does she declare independence effectively from the UK Conservative
0:18:46 > 0:18:48Party, if Boris Johnson, who she clearly doesn't
0:18:48 > 0:18:54like, becomes leader?
0:18:54 > 0:18:56And also from Labour's perspective, Scottish Labour has already been
0:18:56 > 0:19:01making noises about becoming even more autonomous from the UK party.
0:19:01 > 0:19:04But from up here, it simply doesn't matter who becomes the next leader
0:19:04 > 0:19:08of the Conservative party, or the Labour Party.
0:19:08 > 0:19:10The direction of travel in Scotland seems absolutely clear and that's
0:19:10 > 0:19:13not, as some viewers would know, a partisan point on my part,
0:19:14 > 0:19:27it is just how it feels.
0:19:27 > 0:19:31The Daily Record, which we don't have here, a Labour supporting paper
0:19:31 > 0:19:33for decades, is backing a second referendum.
0:19:33 > 0:19:34Which we will come to!
0:19:34 > 0:19:37But it just doesn't matter who the next leader is.
0:19:37 > 0:19:38Does it matter, Toby?
0:19:38 > 0:19:40It might matter for the Scots if it was Michael Gove,
0:19:41 > 0:19:44because he is a Scot.
0:19:44 > 0:19:45Fantasy.
0:19:45 > 0:19:47Sorry.
0:19:47 > 0:19:49It is not fantasy that he is a Scot.
0:19:49 > 0:19:56No, it's a fantasy that it makes any difference.
0:19:56 > 0:20:03Interesting that Boris Johnson has been identified as the bookies'
0:20:03 > 0:20:08favourite.
0:20:08 > 0:20:15At one point you could have been 9:1 against Leave winning last night,
0:20:15 > 0:20:17shortly before the Newcastle declaration.
0:20:17 > 0:20:21But the Conservative party, and we talk about divisions,
0:20:21 > 0:20:23the Conservative party again ripped apart by Europe.
0:20:23 > 0:20:23Exactly.
0:20:23 > 0:20:26Let's rewind to three or four minutes ago when we were talking
0:20:26 > 0:20:29about the sensible option of having a second referendum
0:20:29 > 0:20:30on the sensible associated membership.
0:20:30 > 0:20:33You are then going to have the same anguish in the Conservative party
0:20:33 > 0:20:35about whether you would vote for that.
0:20:35 > 0:20:39I think actually whoever leaves the Conservative Party or whoever
0:20:39 > 0:20:43leads the Conservative Party to heal this hideous rift.
0:20:43 > 0:20:51-- leads.
0:20:51 > 0:20:53As promised, a want to talk quickly about the Disunited Kingdom.
0:20:53 > 0:20:55The Scottish version of The Daily Mail.
0:20:55 > 0:20:58Cameron quits.
0:20:58 > 0:20:59Second referendum battle.
0:20:59 > 0:21:04I mean, what is it necessary for us to do this today?
0:21:04 > 0:21:06We know that she would be thinking about it,
0:21:06 > 0:21:08was she under a lot of pressure to start talking
0:21:08 > 0:21:09about the second referendum?
0:21:09 > 0:21:11Yes, there is certainly pressure within the party.
0:21:11 > 0:21:16Some in the party are very impatient for a second referendum.
0:21:16 > 0:21:18Alex Salmond is clearly one of them.
0:21:18 > 0:21:21Sturgeon is seen as a more cautious figure, but this morning
0:21:21 > 0:21:25she went much further than certainly I expected and many other
0:21:25 > 0:21:28observers, although there were a lot of caveats.
0:21:28 > 0:21:31And it isn't going to happen soon.
0:21:31 > 0:21:40I think what she will do is take that timeframe, the formal
0:21:40 > 0:21:42notification of withdrawal wouldn't be made for some time.
0:21:42 > 0:21:47There's at least two years after that to play with.
0:21:47 > 0:21:50I think what the Sturgeon plan is, and this is just conjecture
0:21:50 > 0:21:53and I often get these things wrong, is that she will aim for another
0:21:53 > 0:21:58independence referendum shortly before the formal point
0:21:58 > 0:22:09of withdrawal with the UK and the timing will be such
0:22:09 > 0:22:11that it allows Scotland, if independence is sanctioned
0:22:11 > 0:22:12in that referendum, to remain a continuing
0:22:12 > 0:22:14member of the European Union.
0:22:14 > 0:22:17I have to emphasise the idea that any of that is straightforward
0:22:17 > 0:22:20or easy is not the case and indeed the First Minister made
0:22:20 > 0:22:21that point this morning.
0:22:21 > 0:22:24I think she will find it quite difficult to do that.
0:22:24 > 0:22:27For one reason, the Prime Minister announced today that she would be
0:22:27 > 0:22:28involved in the negotiation process.
0:22:28 > 0:22:30That makes it easier.
0:22:30 > 0:22:37She has a direct involvement in the process.
0:22:37 > 0:22:40But it makes it harder if she sanctions the final
0:22:40 > 0:22:43settlement, to then urge the Scottish people to reject it.
0:22:43 > 0:22:52Another reason she will find it difficult to call a second
0:22:52 > 0:22:55inde ref is if the choice was between the United Kingdom
0:22:55 > 0:22:59which has a new and better relationship with the EU,
0:22:59 > 0:23:01or Scotland becoming independent and joining the EU,
0:23:01 > 0:23:04it would be like a choice between being part of a democratic
0:23:04 > 0:23:06union and being part of an undemocratic union.
0:23:06 > 0:23:09A democratic union with a hereditary head of state.
0:23:09 > 0:23:14Let us quickly... Just a couple of minutes.
0:23:14 > 0:23:17This French newspaper, Good Luck, it says, with a picture of Boris
0:23:17 > 0:23:19hanging from a zip wire.
0:23:19 > 0:23:20It says...
0:23:20 > 0:23:21I can tell you.
0:23:21 > 0:23:22Stunned?
0:23:22 > 0:23:24Paralysed, actually.
0:23:24 > 0:23:27And many questions.
0:23:27 > 0:23:32Yes many questions in the EU,
0:23:32 > 0:23:36in the countries in the EU after victory, led by Boris Johnson.
0:23:36 > 0:23:44I mean, you could argue whether this is tongue in cheek.
0:23:44 > 0:23:51Good luck, a man on a zip wire, looking like a complete...
0:23:51 > 0:23:53Better Boris Johnson that Marine Le Pen,
0:23:53 > 0:23:55who is the frontrunner to win the election.
0:23:55 > 0:23:56Yes. They are cheering this.
0:23:56 > 0:23:58One comment from each of you.
0:23:58 > 0:23:59Somebody reading the news.
0:23:59 > 0:24:00Good evening.
0:24:00 > 0:24:03Aliens didn't land on Earth and Elvis wasn't found alive.
0:24:03 > 0:24:10But everything else happened.
0:24:10 > 0:24:12It has been monumentally surprising for so many
0:24:12 > 0:24:15people, hasn't it?
0:24:15 > 0:24:16Yeah and to clinch it all, Donald Trump
0:24:16 > 0:24:18was in Scotland today, he arrived this morning,
0:24:18 > 0:24:21seemingly unaware of the fact that different parts
0:24:21 > 0:24:22of the UK voted differently.
0:24:22 > 0:24:29We didn't have aliens or Elvis, but we had Donald Trump.
0:24:29 > 0:24:32I think it has been astonishing.
0:24:32 > 0:24:40I mean, it is nothing like a general election that
0:24:40 > 0:24:43all of us have covered. A staggering day.
0:24:43 > 0:24:48One of the peculiarities to add to the Trump thing
0:24:48 > 0:24:50is the sequel to Independence Day came out.
0:24:50 > 0:24:51That's it for The Papers.
0:24:51 > 0:24:53Thank you, Toby Young, Jo Philips and David Torrance.
0:24:53 > 0:24:55I know you are all rather tired.
0:24:55 > 0:24:58We appreciate you being here.
0:24:58 > 0:25:01Coming up next, it's the weather.
0:25:13 > 0:25:19Hello.
0:25:19 > 0:25:22It's a slightly fresher feel to the weather this weekend,
0:25:22 > 0:25:24as the high humidity moves away,
0:25:24 > 0:25:26which fuelled the thunderstorms over recent few days.