:00:00. > :00:16.Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.
:00:17. > :00:18.With me are Jenny Anderson - author and reporter on Quartz.com,
:00:19. > :00:26.and the Political Commentator James Millar.
:00:27. > :00:29.Welcome to you both, thank you for being with us. Let's take you
:00:30. > :00:31.through what we have. The Observer leads with
:00:32. > :00:33.the Conservative leadership race, saying the final choice will be
:00:34. > :00:38.between Home Secretary Theresa May The Sunday Express front page
:00:39. > :00:46.is devoted to the Queen's call for calm reflection in the wake
:00:47. > :00:49.of the vote to leave The Sunday Telegraph has
:00:50. > :00:52.with an interview with Conservative leadership candidate Andrea Leadsom,
:00:53. > :00:55.in which she claims she can be The Mail on Sunday headline accuses
:00:56. > :00:59.Andrea Leadsom of hypocrisy The Sunday Post claims that medics
:01:00. > :01:09.are planning to emigrate as a result The Sunday Mirror front page has
:01:10. > :01:14.a tribute to Caroline Aherne, the comedy actress and writer
:01:15. > :01:19.who passed away earlier today. And it's back to the race to be
:01:20. > :01:22.the new Prime Minister on the front of The Sunday Times -
:01:23. > :01:25.the paper says senior Tories are uniting to stop Theresa May
:01:26. > :01:40.being installed in the top job So let's kick off then. With of
:01:41. > :01:45.course the Conservative Party leadership, James, this bid to stop
:01:46. > :01:49.any kind of coronation of Theresa May. Yes, this one... It's an
:01:50. > :01:54.interesting day because everything has been happening so fast. It's
:01:55. > :01:56.great for the Sunday papers, you take stock and try to move the story
:01:57. > :01:59.on. It feels slightly like The Sunday
:02:00. > :02:03.Times have got so many good lines, they don't know which one to go with
:02:04. > :02:07.them that come with this idea that Theresa May wants a coronation, so
:02:08. > :02:11.she would have the face the competition. I'm not aware that
:02:12. > :02:16.Theresa May has said she wants a coronation or that there's a lot of
:02:17. > :02:21.evidence of it. But clearly she is the hot favourite at the moment and
:02:22. > :02:27.the other candidates are manoeuvring this weekend to try and stop her, so
:02:28. > :02:33.we have got Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, both doing interviews and
:02:34. > :02:37.putting things out to their supporters to try and undermined
:02:38. > :02:42.Theresa May. They are claiming that she is trying to stitch things up,
:02:43. > :02:47.yet she hasn't said that. And the rather nasty mention of her health,
:02:48. > :02:51.this is already getting dirty and could get dirtier. To what you make
:02:52. > :02:55.of it all as an American living in the United Kingdom? It was not that
:02:56. > :02:59.long ago that the US was that kind of political basket case, the
:03:00. > :03:04.sclerotic Congress and this primary race that would never end, but we
:03:05. > :03:07.have two candidates another UK is kind of the political basket case of
:03:08. > :03:11.the world. There is a sense that maybe we did it to ourselves here,
:03:12. > :03:16.this didn't have to... Have to happen as much. We brought this on.
:03:17. > :03:21.I think there is a sense of disbelief for sure. It's interesting
:03:22. > :03:27.that we could end up with a race in the Tory Party are tween two women
:03:28. > :03:31.for the leadership. We've got" Merkel in Germany, we could have
:03:32. > :03:39.Hillary Clinton in the US, and then here. If are looking for silver
:03:40. > :03:43.linings, feminism might be one. James, how do you see the vocally?
:03:44. > :03:48.We have got important developments coming up this week. Its heart, the
:03:49. > :03:52.Golden rule of Tory leadership is the favourite never winds. Well, the
:03:53. > :03:57.favour was Boris Johnson and he's uneven in the race anymore. Theresa
:03:58. > :04:01.May is now the favourite. Andrea Leadsom is certainly making the
:04:02. > :04:05.running this weekend. In other papers, to the extent that some
:04:06. > :04:10.papers are feeling the need to gun her down already. Some papers are
:04:11. > :04:14.building her up. Certainly the moment, it looks like it will be
:04:15. > :04:16.Theresa May and Andrea Leadsom going forward on Thursday, they do it
:04:17. > :04:21.quickly in the Tory Party, they don't hang around. The electorate of
:04:22. > :04:24.the Conservative Party membership is in some ways a little bit
:04:25. > :04:29.unpredictable. You can know what MPs then but it's much harder to assess
:04:30. > :04:33.what the 150,000 members out there thing. Absolutely, and in over
:04:34. > :04:39.marketable moment as we had so many in the past week, a banker is now
:04:40. > :04:42.the top... How far have become, in 2008 or 2010, it wouldn't seem that
:04:43. > :04:46.perhaps now we have to reach out side the realm of politics for some
:04:47. > :04:49.expertise. But it think you are right, at this point if there is
:04:50. > :04:53.something that we've all learned him and it is true in the US and the UK,
:04:54. > :04:58.anything can happen. We will see that out takes us. Wizardly suspect
:04:59. > :05:01.that the Tory membership is Eurosceptic and that is part of this
:05:02. > :05:13.trying to stop Theresa May is to get people, a secular candidate, the
:05:14. > :05:20.membership may have well flopped. As another heavyweight front page
:05:21. > :05:28.focusing on Andrea Leadsom and an Theresa May, they are set to fight
:05:29. > :05:31.the Tory poll 4pm. They say Michael Gove's bid fades. Is it too early to
:05:32. > :05:37.say that? I don't think it is to sin. He doesn't have the votes,
:05:38. > :05:40.that's one thing, and it sort of his active political Treasury, that will
:05:41. > :05:44.hang over him, it will not go away to four days. I don't think he has a
:05:45. > :05:48.very good shot. But we are in a strange position where we have
:05:49. > :05:52.Theresa May who voted to remain but it is being accused of wanting to
:05:53. > :05:58.leave against Andrea Leadsom who voted to leave and is quoted today
:05:59. > :06:03.as saying... You know, everything is moving, everything is shifting, no
:06:04. > :06:06.position is set in stone. Andrea Leadsom is the unknown candidate at
:06:07. > :06:11.the moment to the large extent, which helped David Cameron last
:06:12. > :06:14.time. He came in off the rails. We believe that Andrea Leadsom tomorrow
:06:15. > :06:18.will set out her stall. She is riding high because you don't know
:06:19. > :06:23.anything about her at the moment. A little bit more about her in the
:06:24. > :06:26.Sunday telegraph, in that paper she is quoted as saying I can be the new
:06:27. > :06:32.Margaret Thatcher, which will presumably go down quite well with
:06:33. > :06:35.the Tory Party membership out there. Tory catnip, to say he would be the
:06:36. > :06:40.new Thatcher. But what is it really mean? She is obviously invoking
:06:41. > :06:42.Thatcher because she knows it will go down with the Tory membership.
:06:43. > :06:48.She also talks about her strong Christian faith and elsewhere talks
:06:49. > :06:54.about family comes first. She is very much ticking the boxes for the
:06:55. > :06:58.Tory faithful. At cooking the Sunday roast, she added that as well. How
:06:59. > :07:04.far have we come with feminism? I'm not sure. And her person personal
:07:05. > :07:07.warmth, sheep combines toughness with personal warmth. I have dealt
:07:08. > :07:11.with her when I was in Westminster and she does have personal warmth,
:07:12. > :07:15.that does count for something. It is fair to say she is not widely known
:07:16. > :07:22.around the country, not exactly a household name, is she? Second be
:07:23. > :07:26.both... In asset and a negative. If she does go forward with Theresa
:07:27. > :07:30.May, we'll get to know her a lot better over the next few weeks.
:07:31. > :07:34.Somebody who definitely is a household name, Boris Johnson, of
:07:35. > :07:40.course, let's go on to talk about the drama revolving around Boris
:07:41. > :07:48.Johnson and Michael Gove. So the Mail on Sunday, they have a piece by
:07:49. > :07:52.Boris Johnston's sister Rachel Johnston, saying that Boris was
:07:53. > :07:59.blown up by a political psychopath. Quite strong! Quite strong, and it
:08:00. > :08:02.honestly tells you where radar in terms of leadership right now
:08:03. > :08:06.because this is not what we need. We don't need more psychodrama, we
:08:07. > :08:10.don't need a tax, we don't need people call each other psychopaths.
:08:11. > :08:14.The country is in crisis, Bigfoot just have to get me move forward.
:08:15. > :08:17.This I don't think it's us anywhere. Clearly things have been said and
:08:18. > :08:21.done but I think it is a reliever Merkel statement that at this point
:08:22. > :08:25.you can still go down this route of petty name-calling and fighting in
:08:26. > :08:30.the papers when what is confronting Britain is quite serious. And this
:08:31. > :08:37.piece come actually, is focusing on Michael Gove's wife Sarah Vine and
:08:38. > :08:40.that leaked e-mail saying... Boris blown up by a political psychopath
:08:41. > :08:45.but it was Mrs. Michael Gove who detonated the bomb. Nothing they
:08:46. > :08:53.love more than a woman being horrible by another woman. It is the
:08:54. > :08:57.most odd piece, it just... The Johnstons are such a bizarre family,
:08:58. > :09:00.they have all their arguments in public and the wind each other up in
:09:01. > :09:03.public and eight regarded as their playground, the rest of us just
:09:04. > :09:10.happened to be sharing it. The language that Rachel Johnson uses,
:09:11. > :09:12.it's all about Michael Gove as an ideological ninja, borderline
:09:13. > :09:20.bunkers. It's just from a different fun it. What it really illustrates
:09:21. > :09:23.that is her description of Michael Gove as a sort of Westminster
:09:24. > :09:27.suicide bomber. There's a lot of talk in the papers today of wars and
:09:28. > :09:32.suicide bombers and all that sort of stuff and frankly it's quite
:09:33. > :09:37.distasteful. It's the bubble kind of forgetting... It's just politics at
:09:38. > :09:41.the end of the day, but they regarded as a war. The other big
:09:42. > :09:44.story in the bubble, the Westminster bubble, is that Labour leadership.
:09:45. > :09:49.The Observer, they are covering that as well. They're talking about
:09:50. > :09:54.Jeremy Corbyn... What are they saying. It felt... We were talking
:09:55. > :09:59.at this, it felt like a nothing story. He's going to offer a peace
:10:00. > :10:03.deal. I don't think... They tried to oust him, so trying to offer AP
:10:04. > :10:06.still is a little bit too little too late. He didn't feel like there was
:10:07. > :10:10.a lot of substance. Do you think it is too late for him to survive? It
:10:11. > :10:14.feels that way, absolutely. There was a clear vote of no-confidence
:10:15. > :10:18.there for him. The fact that he cannot be in the same room as one of
:10:19. > :10:22.his top lieutenants because he's afraid of being bullied. Are we in
:10:23. > :10:28.year four, are we in professional politics? That does not look good.
:10:29. > :10:32.This is a huge opportunity for the Labour Party. They should be
:10:33. > :10:37.stepping forward, lining up, filling the gap. The Conservatives are
:10:38. > :10:41.hardly covering themselves in glory. And yet... This is the other side.
:10:42. > :10:49.There could conceivably be a general election within months. Absolutely.
:10:50. > :10:53.I think it's an amazing story. Jeremy Corbyn wants to be Prime
:10:54. > :10:56.Minister, apparently. Yet he cannot be in the same room as his deputy.
:10:57. > :11:01.This is a man who presumably wants to be able to walk into a room with
:11:02. > :11:04.flatter or Putin or Obama or Clinton or whoever, but he cannot be with
:11:05. > :11:10.his own number two because he might be bullied. Someone who might jog
:11:11. > :11:14.his finger at him, his aides are saying we've got a duty of care,
:11:15. > :11:18.he's a 70-year-old man. He's not actually a 70-year-old man, Dave got
:11:19. > :11:23.that wrong. There's a culture of bullying. Just when you think things
:11:24. > :11:27.can't get more bizarre... You can't make it up! And the Sunday mirror
:11:28. > :11:33.also have Jeremy Corbyn piece off to MPs. Do you think there could be any
:11:34. > :11:38.sort of deal, agreement? It's an interesting one, the Sunday mirror,
:11:39. > :11:42.like a phrasing that he threw down the olive branch. A nice turn of
:11:43. > :11:48.phrase. They are representing it that he has reached out to his rebel
:11:49. > :11:53.MPs, if you like, and said you can have more say over policy. Others
:11:54. > :11:59.would present that same offer as the MPs saying to him there will still
:12:00. > :12:05.be a mechanism whereby MPs, the leader doesn't have too much power.
:12:06. > :12:10.Either way, it suggests they are inching towards some sort of... Page
:12:11. > :12:15.seven of the mirror says, let's do a deal. Do you think that's possible?
:12:16. > :12:22.It suggests we are getting close to it. To be quite honest, I don't
:12:23. > :12:26.know, nobody knows. Nobody knows what's going to happen tomorrow in
:12:27. > :12:29.politics at the moment. Even Angela Eagle and Owen Smith are deciding
:12:30. > :12:33.who's good to be the candidate, they can't even decide on a candidate to
:12:34. > :12:38.challenge him. It's anybody's guess what's going to happen. Because last
:12:39. > :12:42.much longer. Amidst all the turmoil, the express have reported a message
:12:43. > :12:47.from Her Majesty saying... Hit commentary on? Emblazoned on every
:12:48. > :12:51.mug carried back to America from all around the world, but the plea for
:12:52. > :12:57.calm could be applied to everything at this point. It could be applied
:12:58. > :13:00.to politics, finance, the markets are unraveling, to Wimbledon, we've
:13:01. > :13:06.lost Novak Djokovic, it could be applied to football. A sad state of
:13:07. > :13:15.affairs that we need the Queen to weigh in, but she did in a very
:13:16. > :13:18.mild... Is a controversial message or noncontroversial message? It's
:13:19. > :13:20.always the case to keep calm, but he said it at the official opening of
:13:21. > :13:26.the Scottish Parliament after the election in May and the Scottish
:13:27. > :13:32.people regard this as a comment on the possibility of a second
:13:33. > :13:34.referendum, which in the 70s and during the last referendum she
:13:35. > :13:39.hinted that you would rather Scotland stays part of the UK. The
:13:40. > :13:42.English newsrooms are seeing as a common on Brexit more widely. Which
:13:43. > :13:47.one she is referring to, I don't know. It is both cases, keeping, is
:13:48. > :13:50.probably best. Apart from Brexit and all the political shenanigans in the
:13:51. > :13:54.leadership of the two parties, we have also got memories of Caroline
:13:55. > :14:03.Aherne, whose death was announced yesterday. A fantastic comedian. She
:14:04. > :14:07.was. His line was so powerful, mother told me only special people
:14:08. > :14:12.get cancer, I must be very special. Alcoholism, depression, cancer, yet
:14:13. > :14:17.but we watch these clips of her, her humour was brilliant. A real
:14:18. > :14:22.tribute, she had a tough life, a lot of nice tributes to her today. A
:14:23. > :14:27.very nice spread in the Sunday mirror. A lovely picture. Now the
:14:28. > :14:30.tributes will concentrate on her comedy, I hope, because it was
:14:31. > :14:37.interesting, there was a certain distaste about the royal Queen, they
:14:38. > :14:41.documented all her personal problems and gory details throughout. She was
:14:42. > :14:46.very interesting as a comedian, which got lost amongst all the
:14:47. > :14:51.personal drama sometimes. She did the Mrs. Merton stuff, that was some
:14:52. > :14:53.of the first critique of the sort of celebrity culture, celebrities
:14:54. > :14:57.would, knowing that they would get torn to bits, but they would keep
:14:58. > :15:00.coming. And then of course she dumped that because it actually
:15:01. > :15:03.wasn't... You got to be the cover they did the royal family, which I
:15:04. > :15:11.think was completely different. And The Sunday Times having on their
:15:12. > :15:16.page five, demons lurking behind. It's actually surprisingly often
:15:17. > :15:21.comedians have quite dark personal lives. Robin Williams was a great
:15:22. > :15:26.example in the state. There are so many examples, I think. There is a
:15:27. > :15:30.sense that humour as armour, right? You rely on that humour to protect
:15:31. > :15:37.yourself and to get out there, but she clearly had that. And the other
:15:38. > :15:42.element of it, it continues the year of death. The number of celebrity
:15:43. > :15:45.deaths, and the idea that it's the baby boomers, she was only 52, she's
:15:46. > :15:52.not part of the baby boom or generation, neither was Prints. So
:15:53. > :15:56.many this year. Were just getting old. That's part of it as well. Or
:15:57. > :16:00.is it just coincidence? I know what you mean. I suppose there are
:16:01. > :16:07.celebrity deaths every year, but huge names. So many! I can assume
:16:08. > :16:13.it's just perfectly normal but we're noticing and more. But it's having a
:16:14. > :16:17.strange effect. Good to hear from you both, to get your views on the
:16:18. > :16:22.papers. Many thanks to both of you. And just a reminder that we will be
:16:23. > :16:24.taking a look at world's front pages every evening at 10:30pm and 11:30pm
:16:25. > :16:42.here on BBC News. Good morning. This will probably be
:16:43. > :16:43.the better