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:00:00. > :00:12.Now on BBC News, here's Gavin with The Papers.

:00:13. > :00:20.Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.

:00:21. > :00:26.With me are the journalist and broadcaster Alice Arnold

:00:27. > :00:29.and the author and foreign correspondent Matthew Green.

:00:30. > :00:34.The Observer leads with more details of the 18-year-old who shot dead

:00:35. > :00:39.It describes him as a loner - who had 'an obsession

:00:40. > :00:44.The Sunday Telegraph says the Munich gunman used social media to lure

:00:45. > :00:46.the victims to a restaurant where he carried out the shootings.

:00:47. > :00:48.The Sunday Times front page has pictures

:00:49. > :00:50.of the gunman and some of the victims, many

:00:51. > :00:54.The Mail on Sunday says Bangladeshi workers

:00:55. > :00:57.are reportedly paid 30 pence an hour to make T shirts for Jeremy Corbyn's

:00:58. > :00:59.leadership campaign, which then sell for ?10 each.

:01:00. > :01:00.The Express reports that the Foreign Secretary,

:01:01. > :01:03.Boris Johnson is confident that the Brexit negotiations will

:01:04. > :01:09.Non Voyage - The Sunday Mirror reports

:01:10. > :01:10.on the holiday makers stuck in 12-hour long

:01:11. > :01:24.Lets on Sunday Telegraph. What many people will be struck by is the

:01:25. > :01:29.front-page picture of what looks like the schoolboy next door, just a

:01:30. > :01:35.kid. Yes, he does and the majority of the people that he killed were

:01:36. > :01:40.also just kids. This does seem to be quite targeted by him. They are now

:01:41. > :01:47.revealing the fact that he did send out messages on Facebook, come to

:01:48. > :01:51.McDonald's, I will get you free stuff. He set up a Facebook account

:01:52. > :01:56.and lured victims to their deaths. It seems most tragically they were

:01:57. > :02:05.very young, teenagers, as he was, a boy with severe problems. He went on

:02:06. > :02:08.a rampage. It is not linked as we now know to any terrorist

:02:09. > :02:12.organisation or any right wing faction or any of that, just a boy

:02:13. > :02:19.who was deeply disturbed, had been bullied at school, he lured victims

:02:20. > :02:25.and then shot them. That goes to the heart of how we can all processes.

:02:26. > :02:29.We saw what happened in Nice, Orlando, apparently he was

:02:30. > :02:39.fascinated by Anders Brodick, the right wing person in Norway who

:02:40. > :02:43.killed so people. -- Breivik. It strikes terror, but it does not seem

:02:44. > :02:51.to be motivated. If relief is the right word, that is what it was. You

:02:52. > :02:55.think it will be organised by Islamic State and then there is the

:02:56. > :03:00.ripple effect, the polarisation in society, the backlash and so on.

:03:01. > :03:05.Hopefully that will not happen in this case. It does seem very much

:03:06. > :03:10.like this teenager had all the warning signs that something was

:03:11. > :03:15.deeply wrong. He was reading a book called white kids kill? It was by an

:03:16. > :03:21.American psychologist Doctor Peter Langman, he had studied mass killers

:03:22. > :03:28.in the US to try to unravel what was going on. Columbine for example. He

:03:29. > :03:32.had managed to get hold of a Glock nine pistol, 300 rounds of

:03:33. > :03:37.ammunition. All of this happening quietly in his bedroom while living

:03:38. > :03:41.in his parents house. I do wonder because at the moment we seem to be

:03:42. > :03:49.living in such an unstable world and these events have multiplied

:03:50. > :03:52.recently, the one that you listed. -- ones. People in his

:03:53. > :03:56.psychologically disturbed state, on the edge of doing something like

:03:57. > :04:00.that or not, perhaps hearing about these other attacks that may be

:04:01. > :04:06.politically motivated could spark off their ability to do it. We are

:04:07. > :04:11.living in a really angry world and people like that are affected by

:04:12. > :04:16.those events. For better or for worse. Maybe hearing about Nice and

:04:17. > :04:20.Orlando, maybe that actually gave slightly more motivation to carry

:04:21. > :04:28.out the attack. I don't know, I am just wondering if there is a link.

:04:29. > :04:38.It could suggest a copycat killing. The timing was significant, it was

:04:39. > :04:48.the fifth anniversary of Breivik's killings in Norway. The Daily Mail

:04:49. > :04:52.has got how low can he go on the front page? Workers paid a pitiful

:04:53. > :05:03.30p an hour to make T-shirts that fund the Corbin campaign -- Jeremy

:05:04. > :05:09.Corbyn campaign. I thought actually more interestingly, it has a former

:05:10. > :05:15.MP, a former adviser to Gordon Brown saying if Jeremy Corbyn stays,

:05:16. > :05:19.making win a snap election if he has the bottle for it. Gordon Brown

:05:20. > :05:26.bottled out of a snap election apparently. What you make of this?

:05:27. > :05:31.It is Jeremy Corbyn bashing and he is very easy to bash. This is

:05:32. > :05:35.momentum that organise the T-shirts. If you are going to organise a

:05:36. > :05:38.political campaign, you need to be very careful about the source of the

:05:39. > :05:44.T-shirts. It appears they have not been careful and they were made in

:05:45. > :05:48.sweatshops. People were paid a ridiculously low amount of money to

:05:49. > :05:54.make them and if you are a socialist campaigner, then that is a very

:05:55. > :06:00.wrong thing to do. You might be more careful about that. I cannot believe

:06:01. > :06:06.that. There are so many targets to go for here. Is it an MI5

:06:07. > :06:14.conspiracy? Is it the establishment ganging up against T-shirt buyers?

:06:15. > :06:19.Just, as I say, he is such an easy target. I do not think you need to

:06:20. > :06:24.be as organised as having an MI5 conspiracy, anybody is able to do

:06:25. > :06:32.it. What you make of this? My American friend was quoting a Will

:06:33. > :06:37.Rogers joke, are you a member of an organised political party? No sir, I

:06:38. > :06:45.am a Democrat. But this is the official opposition. A degree of

:06:46. > :06:48.disorganisation is putting it rather diplomatically, the Labour Party is

:06:49. > :06:54.imploding and it is unclear what will happen next. There is this

:06:55. > :06:58.column here by Michael Duca who says it's Theresa May goes ahead and

:06:59. > :07:02.causes nap election assuming the Jeremy Corbyn stays as Labour

:07:03. > :07:07.leader, then we are looking at a Tory 1-party state add-in from item.

:07:08. > :07:11.That is the risk. I am not a member of the Labour Party, I have friends

:07:12. > :07:21.who are in despair who are long-term members and a think they are not

:07:22. > :07:24.creating a credible opposition. A slap election, Theresa May could go

:07:25. > :07:29.first collection, presumably it would be a landslide with the lack

:07:30. > :07:33.of opposition that we have, but actually Labour are doing it for

:07:34. > :07:36.themselves. They are destroying themselves already, it does not need

:07:37. > :07:45.a snap election. Apart from would lose a lot of seats at Parliament.

:07:46. > :07:48.We could wait a few years. I don't know if your friends in the Labour

:07:49. > :07:53.Party say that some of the people behind this do not care about

:07:54. > :07:56.Parliament. They think there is... I do not know how that works, the

:07:57. > :08:00.grassroots movement will do something for the country without

:08:01. > :08:06.going through Parliament. One has to ask what that will be. It is painful

:08:07. > :08:10.to have to say it, because in some ways when Jeremy Corbyn appeared on

:08:11. > :08:14.the scene back in September, I was among those who was prepared to give

:08:15. > :08:21.him the benefit of the doubt. I like a lot of what he said over many

:08:22. > :08:24.years. It is just impossible to really countenance the situation we

:08:25. > :08:29.have at the moment where he has completely lost the confidence of

:08:30. > :08:32.the Parliamentary party, he seems to be bunkered down, surrounded by a

:08:33. > :08:38.group of hard-core left-wing advisers. They are presiding over

:08:39. > :08:44.this increasingly poisonous climate of intimidation, misogyny,

:08:45. > :08:50.anti-Semitism. We had a brick thrown through a MPs window last week, this

:08:51. > :08:58.is a real crisis. It seems to be at an impasse, there does not seem to

:08:59. > :09:01.be an obvious way out for those MPs who want an electable Labour Party

:09:02. > :09:05.that does represent the millions of people who have suffered under

:09:06. > :09:12.austerities and through other Conservative policies. You wonder

:09:13. > :09:16.where rape threats against female Labour MPs fit into this picture of

:09:17. > :09:20.attacking austerities. It is interesting about the lack of power

:09:21. > :09:24.think that you were saying. Some of these momentum supporters do not

:09:25. > :09:29.really care about getting power. They see themselves as a pressure

:09:30. > :09:34.group. The interesting thing about that is the group have never had any

:09:35. > :09:40.power, but yet they brought about... It was because of Ukip that we had a

:09:41. > :09:45.referendum. -- interesting thing is that Ukip never had any paragraph.

:09:46. > :09:50.They say you can have a lot of power without being the majority party.

:09:51. > :09:54.The problem is Jeremy Corbyn is wonderful at preaching to the

:09:55. > :10:00.converted, going to meetings and been fated as a hero and so on. Yes,

:10:01. > :10:03.nobody really questions his integrity and his foresight on Iraq

:10:04. > :10:10.and also is of other issues, but that is not enough to get Labour

:10:11. > :10:17.into power. -- lots of other issues. You could see a situation where

:10:18. > :10:21.Theresa May at party conference in October, you have a slim majority of

:10:22. > :10:26.12, Jeremy Corbyn re-elected as leader of the Labour Party and you

:10:27. > :10:30.think if I had a majority of 100 and I have to negotiate with the French

:10:31. > :10:34.and Germans in particular in the EU, I need a new mandate, it could

:10:35. > :10:39.potentially be tempting to think of a way to go to the country. The

:10:40. > :10:43.mandate, she might require that, because she was put in posts and she

:10:44. > :10:48.would not feel like an elected Prime Minister. For that reason as well it

:10:49. > :10:54.may be tempting to go for a snap election which undoubtedly she would

:10:55. > :10:59.win if it was done. But the news changes so fast, you never know. We

:11:00. > :11:08.cannot underestimate Theresa May. No. Those who did are now Foreign

:11:09. > :11:14.Secretary. LAUGHTER Let's have a look at the Observer.

:11:15. > :11:17.This is fascinating, the EU considers migration emergency break

:11:18. > :11:21.the Britain despite resistance from the French. It is the Germans

:11:22. > :11:26.pushing this, pushing something which had it been available to David

:11:27. > :11:30.Cameron a few months ago might have changed the Brexit vote potentially.

:11:31. > :11:34.The source of this story is quite interesting, you have to read it

:11:35. > :11:38.quite carefully to decide who is saying the EU is considering this.

:11:39. > :11:44.It seems the British ministers are saying that which may be wishful

:11:45. > :11:49.thinking. This is all just conjecture. Like all of it was

:11:50. > :11:57.before the referendum. We have not delivered Ali that yet. -- delivered

:11:58. > :12:02.our U at. This is just so what we would like, we would all like that,

:12:03. > :12:07.but if we do get that we will so have to pay large amounts of money

:12:08. > :12:13.into the EU. -- delivered our letter. I think this is Boris's

:12:14. > :12:22.Little Dreamland. Our kites being flown? Yes, the EU leaders are so

:12:23. > :12:25.concerned about Brexit that they may be able to make concessions that we

:12:26. > :12:29.can limit immigration while still retaining access to the single

:12:30. > :12:33.market, that was the holy grail that was promised during the Brexit

:12:34. > :12:39.campaign by the leave side. Is it really going to happen? If that had

:12:40. > :12:43.been on the table three months earlier we may not have had a Brexit

:12:44. > :12:46.in the first place. The French will be extremely reluctant to make that

:12:47. > :12:52.sort of concession. Francois Hollande will face an election

:12:53. > :12:56.challenge from Marine Le Pen in the not too distant future. He needs to

:12:57. > :13:01.demonstrate that there is a price that Britain must pay for the way

:13:02. > :13:06.that we voted. Like you say, the piece has a very speculative

:13:07. > :13:09.flavour. The fear from all the other countries is if they give the

:13:10. > :13:13.concession to Britain is that everyone will go. There is a huge

:13:14. > :13:21.vested interest in not doing that. You cannot do that. It feels a

:13:22. > :13:24.phoney war face, we have had the result, but we have not pressed the

:13:25. > :13:29.button yet. The resort this toing and froing about what it may mean.

:13:30. > :13:33.We have the right wing papers who have cheered Brexit, all giving us

:13:34. > :13:37.these uplifting stories about how there will not be any economic

:13:38. > :13:41.damage and Boris will deliver everything he has promised. Comes

:13:42. > :13:45.six months' time, things could be looking weak. Once they sit around a

:13:46. > :13:48.table and say this is just conjecture. Let's cheer everyone up

:13:49. > :13:53.by moving onto American politics! LAUGHTER

:13:54. > :14:00.This is the Sunday Times, he sneers, styles and he is giving Hillary a

:14:01. > :14:06.real fight. His wife's CV begins to look a bit ragged. Clinton puts

:14:07. > :14:13.faith in... Where'd you want to begin with this? His speech there is

:14:14. > :14:17.a lot of resemblance to a lot of the stuff that was said in the Brexit

:14:18. > :14:23.campaign about making America great again and getting control back and

:14:24. > :14:27.all of that. All of that smacks of an juicy nobody thought that we

:14:28. > :14:33.would go the Brexit and we did. -- all of that smacks of, nobody

:14:34. > :14:39.thought that we would go for Brexit and we did. I am very fearful, a

:14:40. > :14:42.friend of mine in America said you guys are quite intelligent in

:14:43. > :14:46.Britain, what will happen in America? E could win. They friend of

:14:47. > :14:52.mine who is a pollster pointed out that many of the people who wanted

:14:53. > :15:00.to vote for Brexit were undercounted. -- he could win. The

:15:01. > :15:07.possibility is many trump voters are simply also being undercounted. He

:15:08. > :15:11.has been underestimated. How many normal people would admit that they

:15:12. > :15:17.support him? That is a large section of people. He could poll a lot

:15:18. > :15:23.better than the opinion polls suggest. Even now he is only 2.7%

:15:24. > :15:30.behind Clinton. That is too close for comfort. The Washington Post

:15:31. > :15:35.editorial board wrote a scathing editorial they few days ago talking

:15:36. > :15:39.about Donald Trump is a threat to American democracy and I do not

:15:40. > :15:44.think we can underestimate quite how calamitous it could be, not just the

:15:45. > :15:49.US, but the West if Donald Trump wins the presidency. He is described

:15:50. > :15:54.by people who know him very well as a sociopath. There is no doubt about

:15:55. > :16:00.that. The idea that he will walk into the White House come November,

:16:01. > :16:04.I find it absolutely to find. Maybe it is another establishment plot.

:16:05. > :16:09.The serious point here is that some people think any negative publicity,

:16:10. > :16:16.the stuff about plagiarising his speech or Melania, his supermodel

:16:17. > :16:20.wife and her CV, who cares it is the establishment ganging up on our

:16:21. > :16:26.guide. This is the antiestablishment thing again, with Brexit it was like

:16:27. > :16:31.a kick in the teeth. It may be a protest thing and it will backfire

:16:32. > :16:34.hard. In fairness in both the US and the UK there is a problem with the

:16:35. > :16:39.status quo. There are swathes of America who have been left behind by

:16:40. > :16:44.neoliberal globalisation and the same thing applies in Britain. The

:16:45. > :16:48.one positive out of Brexit was that it did give us all a big kick and

:16:49. > :16:52.say hang on a minute, there are a hell of a lot of people who are

:16:53. > :16:57.feeling left behind and they do not feel that it is fair that London has

:16:58. > :17:07.become a prosperous metropolis while greats raves of the country have

:17:08. > :17:14.effectively been abandoned. -- great swathes of the country. The Sunday

:17:15. > :17:18.Mirror, the Dover story. The anything about this story is we know

:17:19. > :17:24.when the school holidays are, we know when British people head to the

:17:25. > :17:29.coast. -- the only thing. It is this weekend. It is unfortunately

:17:30. > :17:34.predictable. Something that on a government levels should have been

:17:35. > :17:42.done. It is predictable, but because security has been ramped up because

:17:43. > :17:46.of events in Paris,... Nice, I think we will find it harder to travel

:17:47. > :17:51.everywhere for a while while we are living in these dangerous times.

:17:52. > :17:54.That is part of it, the security checks are taking longer and the

:17:55. > :17:59.other part is there is a massive amount of understaffing. There was

:18:00. > :18:05.one person checking coaches, it took them 40 minutes to check each coach.

:18:06. > :18:11.Would I be flying into the arms of conspiracy theory if I say that the

:18:12. > :18:18.French are not just allowing us to deliberately... Revenge for Brexit?

:18:19. > :18:22.Now you want to come on holiday? That may be a conspiracy theory, but

:18:23. > :18:25.most viewers may be thinking there may be something in that. It is an

:18:26. > :18:32.establishment plot, we finally discovered it!

:18:33. > :18:42.Just a reminder we take a look at tomorrows front pages every

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