:00:00. > :00:17.Now it is time for The Papers With Gavin Esler.
:00:18. > :00:25.Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.
:00:26. > :00:28.With me are Melanie Eusebe who is the founder of
:00:29. > :00:31.Black British Business Awards and Political Editor of the Sun
:00:32. > :00:38.The Observer reports that a former pensions minister believes
:00:39. > :00:40.the triple-lock protection for state pensions should be dropped
:00:41. > :00:45.The Sunday Express leads on the same story, claiming millions of people
:00:46. > :00:47.face a cut to their retirement income if the Government
:00:48. > :00:52.The Sunday Telegraph says Theresa May will pledge to fight
:00:53. > :00:53.modern slavery, which she'll call a 'barbaric evil'.
:00:54. > :00:56.It also reports on the risks to holidaymakers in Florida
:00:57. > :01:00.The Sunday Times says prominent campaigners to remain in the EU
:01:01. > :01:02.and former cabinet ministers are in line for knighthoods
:01:03. > :01:04.in David Cameron's resignation honours list.
:01:05. > :01:06.The paper also reveals that at least four active terror plots
:01:07. > :01:10.inside the UK are being investigated by the police.
:01:11. > :01:14.The Mail on Sunday says women who have sex changes on the NHS
:01:15. > :01:17.are being given free fertility treatment so they can have babies
:01:18. > :01:21.after they become men. And the Sunday Mirror reports
:01:22. > :01:24.that the BBC will still face legal action from Sir Cliff Richard,
:01:25. > :01:31.despite a promise to play his new records.
:01:32. > :01:46.Let's begin with the pension story. The Observer, too costly says
:01:47. > :01:52.Baroness Altman. A secret plan to cut your pension. There is no more
:01:53. > :01:56.sensitive issue for many people in this country than whether they can
:01:57. > :01:59.retire into old age with a bit of cash. There are 30 million
:02:00. > :02:05.pensioners in this country all of whom vote. Older people tend to
:02:06. > :02:10.vote, as we saw in the referendum. It is an important political issue.
:02:11. > :02:15.The question is whether the government keeps the triple lock.
:02:16. > :02:21.For viewers who do not remember it, it rises in line with either
:02:22. > :02:26.inflation, wages or 2.5%, whichever is the highest. At the moment we
:02:27. > :02:31.have zero inflation, wages are stagnating and pensioners are
:02:32. > :02:35.getting a 2.5% pay rise every year effectively. A pensioner now will be
:02:36. > :02:40.?10 a week better off than they would have been in 2010. Do we
:02:41. > :02:44.continue to keep this lucrative system in place or drop it to a
:02:45. > :02:51.double lock, keeping it in line only with wages and inflation? Baroness
:02:52. > :02:58.Altman is saying we cannot afford it, as a country, that is her view.
:02:59. > :03:03.I agree with her. There is only so much money in the pot and we can
:03:04. > :03:08.only give money in the pot. Having a triple lock pension feature, the
:03:09. > :03:12.2.5% is what we are looking at, when we know there is zero inflation and
:03:13. > :03:17.when we know what is happening with all the economies in the world and
:03:18. > :03:22.comparatively across the planet, very few western democracies have a
:03:23. > :03:25.triple lock feature in their pensions. I understand why they
:03:26. > :03:30.would revisit it because it is costing the economy money where
:03:31. > :03:40.there is none. I think they are prepping us. They say there are no
:03:41. > :03:44.plans. David Cameron in the run to the 2015 elections said they would
:03:45. > :03:49.not scrap the triple lock. That effectively ties in Theresa May to
:03:50. > :03:55.stick to that. If she has another election then of course... You must
:03:56. > :04:00.come across this in your business life, a lot of young people feel
:04:01. > :04:03.that the odds are stacked against them, they do not have the
:04:04. > :04:11.opportunities that the older generation has. But it is not as if
:04:12. > :04:15.we can divide people up like that. If there is only so much money the
:04:16. > :04:19.government can spend, they think they should spend it on people under
:04:20. > :04:24.the age of five to give them a good start in life. Some people think
:04:25. > :04:34.that, but I do not think we should go into that territory because of
:04:35. > :04:39.the double lock or the triple lock. The 2.5% is this random figure
:04:40. > :04:44.almost that we may be held accountable to. We are saying moved
:04:45. > :04:47.down to the double lock, which is in line with some of the most
:04:48. > :04:53.progressive democracies on our planet. The Sunday Times has got the
:04:54. > :05:03.scoop, reveal, Cameron's honours for cronies. We can debate the honours
:05:04. > :05:07.system, but resignation honours is a chance for the Prime Minister to
:05:08. > :05:12.reward people he thinks have done a good job for him and his government.
:05:13. > :05:17.It is a bog-standard move when a Prime Minister resigns. They give an
:05:18. > :05:21.honours list. But this is a good story because we get to know who he
:05:22. > :05:29.has nominated and there are 48 people on there. What strikes me is
:05:30. > :05:36.a lot of them is it seems to be a reward for failure. The people who
:05:37. > :05:39.are getting them are those who lead the remain campaign and the
:05:40. > :05:44.referendum and they will get away with peerages. Four Cabinet
:05:45. > :05:50.ministers were on the remain campaign who will be honoured. Jack
:05:51. > :05:55.Straw, the former Labour Home Secretary, who led the remain
:05:56. > :06:00.campaign, will be honoured as well. People who donated money to the
:06:01. > :06:07.remain campaign as well, a great reward for failure. Every child will
:06:08. > :06:19.get a prize. It is two knighthoods, a few dames, nine CBEs, and some of
:06:20. > :06:23.the figures they are jiggling around, ?1.6 contribution.
:06:24. > :06:27.Unfortunately when you get a story like this it throws the whole
:06:28. > :06:31.honours system into question. The last time there was a scoop like
:06:32. > :06:39.this it was 13 years ago and it was for the people who declined their
:06:40. > :06:43.peerages. I understand why they would do that. When you see
:06:44. > :06:46.something like this and there is no validation and explanation, it
:06:47. > :06:51.throws the whole system into question. That is a fair point. It
:06:52. > :06:55.gives other newspapers the chance to reopen this big issue. Who are these
:06:56. > :07:00.people and why do we elevate them to the House of Lords? This has always
:07:01. > :07:04.been a burning issue. As Peter Hennessy said in the times, even
:07:05. > :07:10.though it is in the Prime Minister's if, it has to go through the
:07:11. > :07:18.scrutiny process. But what is interesting is this lady here,
:07:19. > :07:23.Isabel Spiderman, David Cameron's wide's stylist, she is in the list.
:07:24. > :07:27.George Osborne, the former Chancellor, who was brutally sacked
:07:28. > :07:35.and gave all those scare stories about revenge budgets and cuts, he
:07:36. > :07:39.is to be given a companion are. I take it you are not saying the
:07:40. > :07:46.stylist has been rewarded for failure? No, she always looks good.
:07:47. > :07:50.The Sunday Telegraph, mission to end the evil of slavery. This is an
:07:51. > :07:55.interesting story, a three pronged strategy to reveal the key human
:07:56. > :08:00.rights issue of our time. When you hear prosecutions of these stories,
:08:01. > :08:05.it is the abysmal treatment of some people in our country, many brought
:08:06. > :08:09.here on documented and treated as modern-day slaves. It is a personal
:08:10. > :08:14.crusade for Theresa May. It is a year ago today that she launched the
:08:15. > :08:18.modern slavery crackdown and now she is backing it up with the task
:08:19. > :08:26.force, ?33 million of extra funding. The number of reports in the last
:08:27. > :08:31.year has gone up, 289 prosecutions, 40% up on the previous year. She
:08:32. > :08:37.thinks this is one of the biggest scandals of modern society. Between
:08:38. > :08:42.10000 and 30,000 people living as slaves in this country, which is
:08:43. > :08:47.astonishing for the 21st century. People in male buyers... I thought
:08:48. > :08:52.that was a shocking thing, things like this have been going on under
:08:53. > :08:56.our noses and we are not aware of it. Many people go to nail buyers
:08:57. > :09:05.and car washes, many of which are properly run, but some of them are
:09:06. > :09:11.not. -- nail buyers. She is increasing the pressure on our
:09:12. > :09:14.police force and task force, said even though there has been an
:09:15. > :09:28.increase in reported cases, there are a few areas that did not report
:09:29. > :09:33.cases. They said she was saying this is one of the greatest injustices of
:09:34. > :09:37.our time, so it is not only looking at the 13,000 in Britain, but
:09:38. > :09:42.looking at the origin countries and saying, how did they get here and
:09:43. > :09:47.what is happening? Let's move on to American politics which gives us a
:09:48. > :09:51.chance to talk about Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. The Telegraph has
:09:52. > :10:00.got five ways and 100 days that could put Donald Trump into the
:10:01. > :10:08.White House. Now. You are North American from a Canadian background.
:10:09. > :10:13.For a lot of people I have adopted, they are not entirely happy with
:10:14. > :10:16.their choice in this election. Some people really dislike Hillary
:10:17. > :10:21.Clinton and some people really dislike Donald Trump and some people
:10:22. > :10:29.really dislike both of them. Yes, I don't... Hillary Clinton is
:10:30. > :10:36.experienced, she knows the job, she is the safe choice and as we have
:10:37. > :10:40.seen in our recent history, people might not be ready for that safe
:10:41. > :10:43.choice any more and this is one of the few opportunities they get to
:10:44. > :10:48.engage with the political system and that is why we see the rise of
:10:49. > :10:52.Donald Trump which no one could have anticipated. These next 100 days,
:10:53. > :10:59.quite frankly I have learned the hard way to look at my own politics,
:11:00. > :11:04.by being here in this country, so let's see what happens. It will be a
:11:05. > :11:08.roller-coaster, but I cannot predict what will happen. There are so many
:11:09. > :11:15.people who do not like either camp, so many groups as well, the youth
:11:16. > :11:19.who have not been engaged. The African-American community have not
:11:20. > :11:23.been engaged by either as well. We have no idea where this vote will
:11:24. > :11:27.swing, so I will be interested to see what the result is. If you set a
:11:28. > :11:32.couple of weeks ago that one presidential candidate would
:11:33. > :11:34.encourage publicly the rations to hack the other presidential
:11:35. > :11:38.candidate, everybody would have thought you were mad, but that is
:11:39. > :11:44.what has happened and it seems to go on like this Day after day. The
:11:45. > :11:47.piece in the Telegraph is interesting, it raises the spectre
:11:48. > :11:55.of Donald Trump winning. He is targeting the Democrats who favoured
:11:56. > :12:00.Bernie Sanders and those who do not like Hillary Clinton and he is
:12:01. > :12:03.sending text messages which are popping up on their telephones with
:12:04. > :12:11.a 15 second video. He is going to these areas where people back Bernie
:12:12. > :12:16.Sanders. He is going to go to the gun lobby areas, one in three
:12:17. > :12:19.Americans has a gun and there are lots of Democrats among them and he
:12:20. > :12:25.is going to appeal to them and try to cash in on the dislike of Hillary
:12:26. > :12:30.Clinton among Democrats. The other thing I noticed this week. You are
:12:31. > :12:34.right, Hillary Clinton has got great experience, but that has been used
:12:35. > :12:39.as a stick to beat her with. She is part of the problem, she has been in
:12:40. > :12:44.the system for 25 years. What ever you think of the content he says,
:12:45. > :12:47.Donald Trump engages with the emotions of people, make the country
:12:48. > :12:53.being great again, although you might ask when it ceased to great.
:12:54. > :12:59.You are right about that. It is only because of my own turmoil, not
:13:00. > :13:05.looking at party politics, I would lean towards him as well. It is my
:13:06. > :13:14.own time I'll, through the last two weeks and my own politics. It is
:13:15. > :13:24.quite strategic as well and everyone has assumed that Hillary Clinton
:13:25. > :13:30.will win. She was against Barack Obama a few years ago. Donald Trump
:13:31. > :13:33.is targeting some of the communities that the Democrats have not even
:13:34. > :13:38.attempted to touch, whether through social media or indirect campaigns.
:13:39. > :13:43.There is a lot of echo in this country again, through the Brexit
:13:44. > :13:48.campaign and Bernie Sanders fired up many Democrats who were not touch
:13:49. > :13:53.before by politics. It is an anti-politics move which fed into
:13:54. > :13:58.the rise of and Nigel Farage. People like somebody who is not like the
:13:59. > :14:02.rest of them and the problem Hillary Clinton has, which is what David
:14:03. > :14:08.Cameron and Tony Blair had, is baked out all the same. They are good
:14:09. > :14:11.politicians generally. Somebody like Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and
:14:12. > :14:17.Donald Trump appealed to those who are fed up with politicians.
:14:18. > :14:21.Disenfranchisement is so great in whole swathes of the country that I
:14:22. > :14:26.am scared how they are going to vote. We do not know how they will
:14:27. > :14:34.boat. It is the same as here, it will hit as in the chin. Only 100
:14:35. > :14:39.days. September the 26th is the first presidential debate, that will
:14:40. > :14:46.be a right ding-dong. How do you prepare Hillary Clinton for that?
:14:47. > :14:52.I thought this was a joke rape story, JK Rowling casts a new spell.
:14:53. > :14:58.This is the Harry Potter play, the next instalment, people say it has
:14:59. > :15:05.been brilliantly written. I am a JK Rowling super fan. I have been in
:15:06. > :15:09.different parts of the world when her books have come out and coming
:15:10. > :15:16.off an aeroplane I would go straight to the book store and by hobo. I am
:15:17. > :15:20.so happy. Changing a story from a book to a screen or a play is very
:15:21. > :15:30.different and difficult and for it to be well received, I am so proud
:15:31. > :15:35.of her and her shoes are fantastic! There is something in the plotline
:15:36. > :15:41.about shoes with a wing on. And she is wearing a ring with a snake on it
:15:42. > :15:48.which is the slogan for a slithering house. You must be a fan. It is five
:15:49. > :15:55.and half hours which is the length of a Wagner opera. I could sit
:15:56. > :15:59.through a five and half hour Wagner opera, but I do not know if the kid
:16:00. > :16:05.is good. I do not know if the parents are ready to sit through
:16:06. > :16:10.that, it is an incredibly long time. Some kids were queueing up and some
:16:11. > :16:18.sleep overnight for the JK Rowling books and you could see them in
:16:19. > :16:21.King's Cross station as well. Have you see Die Zeit Procom envelope?
:16:22. > :16:28.They will be OK, if it is well written, she will have them. The
:16:29. > :16:33.appeal is it is a great story, the idea of magic and wizards and it is
:16:34. > :16:43.about good and evil and all those great things about good and evil.
:16:44. > :16:49.She immerses you in a world, we are immersed in a world that we could
:16:50. > :16:54.not even possibly imagine. That is the attraction of Game Of Thrones,
:16:55. > :17:02.new words and you concepts and that is fantastic. On that note we
:17:03. > :17:05.believe it there. There is a look at the papers at 10:30pm and 11:30pm
:17:06. > :17:18.every evening on BBC News. Breaking news about events in Austin
:17:19. > :17:22.in Texas if you have just joined us. Officials in Austin in Texas say
:17:23. > :17:23.they have separate