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:00:00. > :00:00.as well as a video highlights screenplay on the BBC website. That

:00:00. > :00:13.is all the sport, now it is time for the papers.

:00:14. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.

:00:19. > :00:20.With me are James Rampton and Josie Cox.

:00:21. > :00:27.The Observer features an interview with Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn,

:00:28. > :00:30.in which he criticises his deputy Tom Watson.

:00:31. > :00:34.Prime Minister Theresa May is Britain's most popular

:00:35. > :00:37.politician, and is even regarded positively by 20 per cent

:00:38. > :00:44.seen a leaked letter from the International

:00:45. > :00:46.Trade Secretary Liam Fox, which suggests he and Boris Johnson

:00:47. > :00:53.are arguing about who controls key parts of foreign policy.

:00:54. > :00:58.a royal wedding next year - in a special report it says

:00:59. > :01:07.is about private briefings by government ministers to City

:01:08. > :01:10.executives that Britain could remain a member of the EU until late 2019,

:01:11. > :01:12.a year later than previously anticipated.

:01:13. > :01:16.by the Mail on Sunday after he recovered from a fall

:01:17. > :01:30.Let's begin. Jeremy Corbyn, my deputy is talking nonsense and he

:01:31. > :01:41.knows it. That is all in the Observer, trots and plot, what you

:01:42. > :01:47.make of it? Laughing. This really looks like all-out war. It is hard

:01:48. > :01:51.to see how any cohesiveness can be returned to the party within the

:01:52. > :02:00.next few weeks even in the next few months. A couple of decades!

:02:01. > :02:04.Rhetoric is becoming very strong. The claims that have been thrown

:02:05. > :02:10.against the party by Tom Watson last week in this apparent letter, they

:02:11. > :02:16.were punchy. It is perhaps not surprising that Jeremy Corbyn is

:02:17. > :02:19.coming out and saying this. What do you make of it? There is no

:02:20. > :02:23.observable good outcomes of the Labour Party at least in the next

:02:24. > :02:28.year or two. I am metaphorically sitting here with my head in my

:02:29. > :02:32.hands, I would naturally be a Labour supporter, but it seems like a

:02:33. > :02:38.suicide cults. The inter-warfare that is going on, even if Jeremy

:02:39. > :02:42.Corbyn does win, what happens to the 80% of the Parliamentary Labour

:02:43. > :02:47.Party MPs who voted no confidence in him just a few weeks ago. There must

:02:48. > :02:52.be a split, there must be two parties, that is disastrous at a

:02:53. > :02:57.moment where the Labour Party has a massive responsibility in my view to

:02:58. > :03:02.tackle the iniquities of the Tory government, it is fighting itself.

:03:03. > :03:06.For democracy, that is a disaster. Also I'd talk about unity and taking

:03:07. > :03:13.the fight to the Tories, but when they have had a few open goals, the

:03:14. > :03:15.question of the resignation honours with David Cameron, the resignation

:03:16. > :03:26.of Iain Duncan Smith, people were asking where was the fight. -- sides

:03:27. > :03:29.talk about. There are two completely different ideologies and what the

:03:30. > :03:33.Labour Party should be in this day and age, if there is no cohesiveness

:03:34. > :03:40.and agreement on that, where is the credible opposition? Interesting

:03:41. > :03:44.question. When the open goal appears, they do not run over and

:03:45. > :03:49.capable, they ran over and kick themselves! LAUGHTER

:03:50. > :03:56.Labour blacklist 1000 today, Labour officials have been identifying

:03:57. > :03:58.entries as they try to stop members of rival parties and hard left

:03:59. > :04:07.factions influencing the party leadership. This is more if you like

:04:08. > :04:13.trots. This is the question of what is an interest. This 1000 today, it

:04:14. > :04:17.is such a huge number that I cannot begin to imagine where they are

:04:18. > :04:20.finding these people and begin to imagine how much trawling through...

:04:21. > :04:33.They trailed through social media accounts. What qualifies? It is like

:04:34. > :04:38.McCarthyism! Also, why not? If you were a Conservative Party member and

:04:39. > :04:43.you had felt that the Labour Party was for you, what is the reason why

:04:44. > :04:50.you cannot join? By Labour Party rules you cannot be a member of

:04:51. > :04:54.another party. Someone with a militant tents and see from the

:04:55. > :05:05.1980s had said I may be readmitted. -- tendency. Leon Trotsky said that

:05:06. > :05:08.they should secretly join to form a Trotskyite cult within the Labour

:05:09. > :05:14.Party. That is where the phrase entries comes from. If that happens

:05:15. > :05:19.we have two totally separate parties fighting each other rather than the

:05:20. > :05:23.Tories. Let's move on to the other front-page story in the Sunday

:05:24. > :05:28.Times. Brexit will be delayed until the end of 2019, Whitehall is not

:05:29. > :05:33.ready for talks. In a sense you think we kind of know that. Article

:05:34. > :05:39.50 has not impressed, it takes two years, do the maths. Two years from

:05:40. > :05:46.say Christmas would take you up to 2019. This is not brand-new in the

:05:47. > :05:50.sense that I think it is something Sadiq Khan referred to last week and

:05:51. > :05:56.he was saying we need to... He used the phrase square the circle on

:05:57. > :06:00.issues like migration, trade, rushing into anything would lead to

:06:01. > :06:03.more panic and could lead to the brain drain which people have been

:06:04. > :06:08.talking about, people relocating away from the city to places like

:06:09. > :06:14.Dublin, Frankfurt and Paris. We need to avoid that. You have a calming

:06:15. > :06:18.influence of Philip Hammond trying to say look, we will still be able

:06:19. > :06:24.to pay the farmers, we will be able to pay the scientists, we will be

:06:25. > :06:29.able to do things until 2020. You have that pool, on the other hand we

:06:30. > :06:36.have people saying why aren't we still in the EU? -- why are we still

:06:37. > :06:39.in the EU? There are two different factions in the Tory party, there

:06:40. > :06:43.are the moaning Remainers who are furious about how it has turned out

:06:44. > :06:48.and the head-bangers have said let's get a move on! What I find

:06:49. > :06:54.interesting is insiders are saying they are setting up two new

:06:55. > :06:58.departments. Liam Fox is trying to recruit 1000 trade policy experts,

:06:59. > :07:05.but he is only found fewer than 100. We have not negotiated his 1973.

:07:06. > :07:08.There is no one with that expertise out there unless they go to

:07:09. > :07:16.Brussels! You can find them all there! Let's go to the Sunday

:07:17. > :07:19.Telegraph. Boris and Liam Fox in a bitter feud, we have done the Labour

:07:20. > :07:24.Party, let's do the Conservative Party. The only thing missing is

:07:25. > :07:30.David Davis's name. He has a slice of this pie as well. That is

:07:31. > :07:36.mentioned in the Sunday Times story. David Davis 's role is also to be

:07:37. > :07:43.defined and the resources that he has has not been made clear. He is a

:07:44. > :07:47.big person in the party. Absolutely. This is classic turf war and what we

:07:48. > :07:53.are risking here is losing sight of the bigger issue at hand which is

:07:54. > :07:56.basically what the Times article writes about. Not having the

:07:57. > :08:00.resources available, this is not a time where we need in fighting like

:08:01. > :08:06.in the Labour Party. We need a united front. I am just guessing

:08:07. > :08:10.here, but I suspect Theresa May has very little interest in hearing her

:08:11. > :08:17.ministers bicker about something like a turf war when you are looking

:08:18. > :08:21.at Brexit. There is a nanny knows best put-down, she said she is

:08:22. > :08:26.unimpressed with this sort of carry on. She is absolutely right. There

:08:27. > :08:32.is a lovely Matt cartoon. David Cameron turn to it every morning.

:08:33. > :08:38.Wife says to the husband, is that borrowers and Liam Fox discussing

:08:39. > :08:44.Brexit or Olympic judo? -- Boris. This is a massive ego battle.

:08:45. > :08:47.Michael Gove did brilliantly destroying his two supposedly best

:08:48. > :08:54.friends in politics, Johnson only temporarily and it became a huge

:08:55. > :08:59.battle of ego waving. This is the same thing, three very alpha males,

:09:00. > :09:03.Davies, Johnson and Liam Fox or having to share the same house, that

:09:04. > :09:11.would be a great reality TV show, the Big Brother house! Very much

:09:12. > :09:24.Brexit ears! Theresa May may have played a blinder. -- Brexit

:09:25. > :09:28.supporters. I wonder if either of you reflecting on what is going on

:09:29. > :09:32.in labour and Conservatives and the magnitude of what is ahead, we have

:09:33. > :09:37.a PM who is very popular according to polls we have today, but she has

:09:38. > :09:42.not got a personal mandate, she may be tempted to have an election

:09:43. > :09:46.sometime in the next year, there are difficulties, but politically it may

:09:47. > :09:50.make sense. Especially if she sees herself at a dead end with

:09:51. > :09:54.everything that is going on around her. Just going back to the

:09:55. > :09:58.Telegraph. What is interesting is that in this case and I do not know

:09:59. > :10:02.whether this is just the way it is written, Liam Fox looks like he has

:10:03. > :10:05.taken the aggressive stance and there is a sentence towards the end

:10:06. > :10:13.of the article where it says Boris would theoretically agree to suck on

:10:14. > :10:17.some resources from his camp into the Fox's camp which is not

:10:18. > :10:22.something that we know of Boris on stock that is quite

:10:23. > :10:26.uncharacteristic. One said that Liam Fox's letter is very strong

:10:27. > :10:31.language. It does make you think, where is all this heading? This

:10:32. > :10:36.massive ego clash is going on, we have a country to run and Theresa

:10:37. > :10:40.May may say unlike Gordon Brown who bottled it soon after becoming Prime

:10:41. > :10:46.Minister, if I run for election now, serve this tide of popularity,

:10:47. > :10:54.Gordon Brown act out of that, I could get a bigger mandate and

:10:55. > :10:59.change the terms. -- backed out. They could say we do not want the

:11:00. > :11:02.hard Brexit that some people are advocating, we have had a full

:11:03. > :11:05.general election campaign where we have discussed the issues

:11:06. > :11:10.comprehensively and you cannot avoid Brexit entirely, but you could

:11:11. > :11:18.soften it. Interesting. Here is an answer to all the party problems,

:11:19. > :11:23.how to avoid a Brexit break-up. Relate's advice to couples. LAUGHTER

:11:24. > :11:31.What puzzles me about this is how many couples do you know that all

:11:32. > :11:32.many? I know parents and children many? I know parents and children

:11:33. > :11:37.who are at war, I interviewed a comedian the other day who says he

:11:38. > :11:43.calls his parents Lord and Lady snob, I will not tell you who it is.

:11:44. > :11:48.They are at the adamant that Leave is the right thing to do and he said

:11:49. > :11:52.they very selfish, they said they are worried about pensions and we do

:11:53. > :11:57.not want to get involved in a Greek financial crisis with the Euro. We

:11:58. > :12:03.want to cut ourselves off from the world and in so late ourselves from

:12:04. > :12:11.the trouble and we voted for the. This comedian is an open-minded,

:12:12. > :12:18.Euro minded person. He is furious. My daughter was abroad when this

:12:19. > :12:24.happened and she said she was the areas, the older generation have

:12:25. > :12:27.stolen my future. When you look at the breakdown of who voted what and

:12:28. > :12:32.their attitudes to various things, they tend to be different, that is

:12:33. > :12:38.according to the polls, I just wondered if there were many cases

:12:39. > :12:45.for Relate's advice. I know one couple who is definitely on polar

:12:46. > :12:51.opposites sides of the debate. Are they seeing Relate? They do not talk

:12:52. > :12:55.about it, that is maybe the only way forward for a lot of people for the

:12:56. > :13:02.top of the Sunday express has Princess Eugenie to marry. Over to

:13:03. > :13:12.you on this one. Here is a ticking time bomb false. My little knowledge

:13:13. > :13:17.of the Royal family, Eugenie could be to marry in 2017 or not. I am

:13:18. > :13:24.glad you cleared that one up! LAUGHTER

:13:25. > :13:29.Mighty Mouse Farrah, The Mail on Sunday, the Daily Express point out

:13:30. > :13:39.they are 30 PG further The Mail on Sunday. -- 30p cheaper than The Mail

:13:40. > :13:44.on Sunday. This is a proper news story. Congratulations to them to

:13:45. > :13:47.get it on the front page at three in the morning. People working through

:13:48. > :13:51.the nights to make sure that was on the front page. What is

:13:52. > :13:56.extraordinary is he fell over, he was tripped accidentally by his

:13:57. > :14:02.training partner who was covered in blood, he got up and he beat his

:14:03. > :14:09.rival in the spring to the line. He is the most decorated British

:14:10. > :14:10.athlete, he is a total hero. We will have to believe it's there, Mighty

:14:11. > :14:11.Mouse Farrah