:00:00. > :00:00.chased them down 150 348. They reach their target with five to spare. And
:00:00. > :00:15.that from now is all the sport. Delyn BBC News, the papers.
:00:16. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.
:00:19. > :00:21.With me are the former President of the polling firm YouGov,
:00:22. > :00:23.Peter Kellner, and Sebastian Payne of the Financial Times.
:00:24. > :00:32.Let's take a quick look at some of the front pages.
:00:33. > :00:34.The Telegraph calls the Rio Games Britain's greatest ever,
:00:35. > :00:37.The paper's main story is a crackdown on cosmetic surgeons
:00:38. > :00:41.who will be named and shamed for poor practice.
:00:42. > :00:44.The Observer leads with a call from the London Mayor to Labour
:00:45. > :00:47.party members telling them to back Owen Smith in the party's
:00:48. > :00:51.Sadiq Khan says Jeremy Corbyn has been a disaster for the party.
:00:52. > :00:54.Nicola Adams's gold medal win is pictured on the
:00:55. > :01:03.The paper reports on warnings that Rio may be Team GB's last great
:01:04. > :01:05.games, if economic problems in the future force a cut
:01:06. > :01:11.The Mail on Sunday says Theresa May has been dragged
:01:12. > :01:15.into a party scandal involving allegations of bullying.
:01:16. > :01:18.The Express hails a 'golden era' for British sport, alongside
:01:19. > :01:22.a picture of the gold-winning kayaker, Liam Heath.
:01:23. > :01:27.And the Sunday Times says Theresa May will harness the spirit
:01:28. > :01:36.of Britain's Olympic "world beaters" to draw up a blueprint for Brexit.
:01:37. > :01:46.Let's start with that Sunday Times story. Sebastien perhaps you will
:01:47. > :01:49.start. It is about politicians, the headline is the glorious games and I
:01:50. > :01:54.is all about the politicians and the brain and is making use of that.
:01:55. > :01:58.Absolutely. These games have been a great moment for the country, a warm
:01:59. > :02:02.fuzzy feeling to see Britain doing well against a country like China
:02:03. > :02:05.that has a population of 1 billion or something like that and if you
:02:06. > :02:09.look at the medals we have versus the performance and the money it is
:02:10. > :02:17.a fantastic story so naturally politicians are keen to get on the
:02:18. > :02:21.coat-tails of this. Shoehorning this end, Theresa May is talking about
:02:22. > :02:24.the idea of backing excellence. I am not sure how you can find excellence
:02:25. > :02:30.in the future but apparently that is what Brexit Britain will do, how
:02:31. > :02:33.only industrial strategy will work in the economy will be just like the
:02:34. > :02:38.Olympic Games or something like that. Peter, a senior cabinet
:02:39. > :02:47.minister are named tells the paper about this. I do apologise, we get a
:02:48. > :02:51.name. I am less cynical than Sebastien because I think there are
:02:52. > :02:53.lessons to be learned from the Olympics, I am not sure this
:02:54. > :02:59.government will learn indeed the Labour Party because this is new a
:03:00. > :03:03.success for the right-wing paradigm of the free market not the left-wing
:03:04. > :03:07.paradigms of state intervention. What we had was substantial public
:03:08. > :03:13.funding through the lottery, strong national leadership in a number of
:03:14. > :03:18.sports and close full -- close cooperation with the voluntary
:03:19. > :03:24.sector. Later on in the Sunday Times on the comment pages one of her
:03:25. > :03:29.British entrepreneurs, he says why doesn't Britain have a Google. Allah
:03:30. > :03:32.says because the Americans, they invested a lot through the
:03:33. > :03:39.government and the universities in these tech start-ups. So if we learn
:03:40. > :03:43.the real lessons from the Olympics, from both the right and the left the
:03:44. > :03:47.need to be some hard thinking about what has made Britons were
:03:48. > :03:51.successful in this last fortnight. Indeed every will get parades and
:03:52. > :03:55.things, Sebastien, there was some doubt about whether there will be
:03:56. > :03:58.one in London and that is bound to be. The politicians will be the big
:03:59. > :04:04.time. Absolutely and they want to harness this mood but what about
:04:05. > :04:07.your point Peter, there are lessons for all politicians. On the left
:04:08. > :04:11.this is an example of how we have taken public funds and use them well
:04:12. > :04:16.but for people on the right it is not just black and public funds,
:04:17. > :04:19.that is the point, if you take Google, what the US was trying to do
:04:20. > :04:24.was they had a problem which was searching, they put money in the
:04:25. > :04:29.academics, it filtered through and they found these two chaps and set
:04:30. > :04:32.up Google. We have done exactly the same thing with cycling and all of
:04:33. > :04:35.the sport we have done well and I'm sure the government will try and do
:04:36. > :04:40.that and we will see if it works. We can say one thing, the government
:04:41. > :04:44.will not be not investing in the Olympics in the future, they will
:04:45. > :04:51.want to make sure that 2020 is just as successful as this. Indeed. Let's
:04:52. > :04:57.move on. The mail on Sunday, Peter, going back to this long-running
:04:58. > :05:02.business, May and the Tatler Tory, linking the Prime Minister to a
:05:03. > :05:08.scandal. Something for going on inside the Tory party. The key
:05:09. > :05:12.characters and Matt Clarke who ran a thing called the road to some years
:05:13. > :05:21.ago and he has been engulfed in all sorts of allegations about sexual
:05:22. > :05:24.malpractice, one of the people involved ended up committing
:05:25. > :05:27.suicide. Arguably the Conservative Party should have got shot of him
:05:28. > :05:34.along time ago. Allegations which are denied. Theresa May some years
:05:35. > :05:39.ago congratulated him on the marvellous was doing. I think it is
:05:40. > :05:44.a bit of a stretch to blame the Prime Minister for this. She was not
:05:45. > :05:47.running the party at the time, she was Home Secretary. She has been
:05:48. > :05:51.asked to go along to support someone who is in place and has not been
:05:52. > :05:56.dismissed and of course what is any senior party figure going to do but
:05:57. > :06:02.see you are doing a terrific job. It is odd but I don't think this story
:06:03. > :06:06.will last more than 24 hours. I suspect, it is interesting, the
:06:07. > :06:11.premise as she now Home Secretary, she can be seen slapping the smiling
:06:12. > :06:16.Mark Clark on the back. An uncharacteristically excited misses
:06:17. > :06:20.me tells Clarke and so on. If you look at the picture we have here,
:06:21. > :06:26.this confirms all of the stuff that has come up about the scandal, it is
:06:27. > :06:31.in a pub, you have this fellow and his mistress apparently the Prime
:06:32. > :06:34.Minister, but the key thing is Theresa May loves campaigning, even
:06:35. > :06:38.after she became Prime Minister she went straight back onto the
:06:39. > :06:42.doorsteps to really go and push the conservative message. The thing we
:06:43. > :06:46.found out from this whole road that scandal this week is it did work in
:06:47. > :06:52.some cases. The Conservative Party did find it useful to win seats. It
:06:53. > :06:57.is not a surprise that Theresa May liked it. She probably had no idea
:06:58. > :07:05.who this guy was. Was a volunteer in the party. Let's move on. The
:07:06. > :07:08.Observer, right, I have the Observer here in the desk I think. Some
:07:09. > :07:14.people are debating whether I had it right but I have. London they are
:07:15. > :07:21.Sadiq Khan seeing bits Corp and now afford it is too late. Google
:07:22. > :07:24.staffers on this? Sebastien. It is interesting to me that a couple of
:07:25. > :07:28.days ago Sadiq Khan was asked this question firmly and he said he would
:07:29. > :07:32.not get involved a few years coming out and really damning Jeremy
:07:33. > :07:37.Corbyn. It is a bold move because the not forget that Sadiq Khan was
:07:38. > :07:41.one of the 35 MPs who backed Jeremy Corbyn for the Labour leadership
:07:42. > :07:48.last year. In his article... Element he nominated him, he did not vote
:07:49. > :07:50.for him. We don't know that. He said he didn't. Again this whole thing is
:07:51. > :07:54.flip-flopping a little bit but he does say I do not regret nominating
:07:55. > :08:00.him because the party had to have that but it is very damning and it
:08:01. > :08:04.reflects what a lot of Labour MPs are saying which is that the EU
:08:05. > :08:08.referendum was a crunch point, the public did not know Jeremy Corbyn 's
:08:09. > :08:11.view in the did not campaign and if UV has now done more campaign events
:08:12. > :08:15.for its own leadership in the dead for the whole of the EU referendum
:08:16. > :08:18.and for those in the Labour Party they found it totally unacceptable
:08:19. > :08:23.that he can campaign strongly for himself but not for the EU, so many
:08:24. > :08:27.people in labour like yourself will feel strongly about this. Jeremy
:08:28. > :08:34.Corbyn seems to be the man who will get the readership the matter what
:08:35. > :08:38.people like Sadiq Khan say. My record predictions is not a great
:08:39. > :08:42.one. I think Corp and probably will win, it will be closer than some
:08:43. > :08:49.people think but we will see. Let me say this. Sadiq Khan is now the
:08:50. > :08:52.tenth, 20th, 30th Labour MP to oppose carbon on the specific
:08:53. > :08:58.grounds that Corp can't win a general election for Labour. What
:08:59. > :09:03.you are not getting is these MPs on the whole see actually Jeremy Corbyn
:09:04. > :09:06.'s politics are wrong. This is the debate that isn't happening inside
:09:07. > :09:11.the Labour Party as to whether it should lodge towards being a
:09:12. > :09:18.thoroughgoing Socialist party, which Jeremy Corbyn consistently in his
:09:19. > :09:21.campaign and 33 years as an MP, Corbyn has been a consistent
:09:22. > :09:25.hardline socialist so why aren't his opponents taking him on unseen
:09:26. > :09:29.hardline socialism, we tried that in the 20th century in a number of
:09:30. > :09:35.countries and it was disastrous. But Labour seem scared of having the
:09:36. > :09:42.debate. Let's move on. Do you have the Sunday Telegraph? One of you
:09:43. > :09:45.does. Let's look at that. First of all they do the greatest games,
:09:46. > :09:52.wonderful coverage they have that. That is Nicola Adams. Hasn't Nicola
:09:53. > :09:57.Adams done well? But the main story let's go onto that. It is all about
:09:58. > :10:02.cosmetic surgery, naming and shaming. Most people will find it
:10:03. > :10:06.very strange that these people are not regulated, the specialists who
:10:07. > :10:10.do not just cosmetic surgery around the face, they do I surgery, they
:10:11. > :10:17.are not properly regulated at the moment. It is one of those stories
:10:18. > :10:20.that again, like the dangerous dogs thing, the public have very strong
:10:21. > :10:24.feelings about the sort of thing. If you have a laser eye operation it is
:10:25. > :10:30.not well regulated, it has a huge personal impact on you. It should
:10:31. > :10:33.rightly be called out on. Closing up that sort of the pool is a good
:10:34. > :10:39.thing for the government to do. It is not something that you can argue
:10:40. > :10:44.about because it is straightforward. The are not operating correctly the
:10:45. > :10:49.government should be clamping down. It is the I surgery thing that
:10:50. > :10:54.interests me. I say it is so crucial but not very well regulated until
:10:55. > :10:57.now. That is right. But one always has the question in any industry we
:10:58. > :11:03.have the same thing with care homes and regulation. When anything goes
:11:04. > :11:08.wrong anywhere people say, it should be regulated. Here's the problem. If
:11:09. > :11:13.you have too much regulation and you stifle enterprise and you end up
:11:14. > :11:18.with fewer decent services, and the trick is to get the right balance
:11:19. > :11:23.will stop clearly here we have not got the right balance, we probably
:11:24. > :11:26.do need more regulation. But let's not go overboard and say let's
:11:27. > :11:33.regulate everything. Let's go back, we have the Sun, we are on the
:11:34. > :11:39.inside pages with quite a short story that I reckon could be an
:11:40. > :11:46.important one. Sebastien, it is Jeremy Corbyn, rebels Co-op split.
:11:47. > :11:51.Coming back to the point about what is going on in the Labour Party, is
:11:52. > :11:55.Jeremy Corbyn wins again and he probably is most likely to even it
:11:56. > :11:58.is by a smaller margin than last time, what do those moderate MPs do
:11:59. > :12:04.who do not believe in a hardline socialist agenda? The Co-op party
:12:05. > :12:10.which is linked to the Labour Party but a separate entity, may become
:12:11. > :12:18.more of its own faction and those moderate MPs may try and create the
:12:19. > :12:22.Co-op party within Parliament. This is part of the cooperative movement
:12:23. > :12:26.which I'm sure you all about, as they can use that to promote their
:12:27. > :12:30.own agenda and push it forward and to have a distinction between
:12:31. > :12:35.Corbyn's readership. These rebels have tried to get rid of him at Owen
:12:36. > :12:39.Smith, if that doesn't work they have no way of differentiating
:12:40. > :12:45.themselves. This could be big. The Sunday Times has the same story in
:12:46. > :12:50.greater length, it contains the key point which is that the speaker, if
:12:51. > :12:54.they want to have varied opposition instead of Corbyn then they must do
:12:55. > :12:58.it through a separate political entity that is recognised by the
:12:59. > :13:02.electoral commission. And the Co-op party is recognised by the electoral
:13:03. > :13:07.commission so that makes it a possible routes down the track or
:13:08. > :13:11.Jeremy Corbyn two replaces the former Leader of the Opposition by
:13:12. > :13:17.one of the other current Labour MPs who may become a Co-op MP. It sounds
:13:18. > :13:23.wonderfully old-fashioned. The record of party split in the past,
:13:24. > :13:29.it does not seem to work. Maybe it is all about to change. You are
:13:30. > :13:32.absolutely right, the last time it was tried in the 1980s when the
:13:33. > :13:36.social Democrats broke away from the Labour Party it helps keep the
:13:37. > :13:39.Conservatives in power for 18 years. Maybe the same will happen this
:13:40. > :13:46.time. The trouble is looking at the Labour Party I can see any route out
:13:47. > :13:50.of the present dungeon that leads it quickly to the sunlight. They have
:13:51. > :13:56.got to if I can extend the metaphor, there is a lot of dark tunnelling
:13:57. > :14:00.for years to come. Going back to the same point, a lot of the younger
:14:01. > :14:05.members to back Jeremy Corbyn, it is a fact of life. Absolutely and this
:14:06. > :14:09.is the problem facing those MPs that you can keep challenging Jeremy
:14:10. > :14:15.Corbyn and they will challenging if he wins this leadership contest but
:14:16. > :14:19.those 515,000 people, there are more people in the Labour Party than all
:14:20. > :14:24.other parties put together and those people like Jeremy Corbyn and you
:14:25. > :14:29.have MPs and members in the totally at odds with each other. They either
:14:30. > :14:32.have two reconcile themselves with the selection and the MPs are people
:14:33. > :14:36.leaving the Labour Party and there's no sign they will leave the party
:14:37. > :14:43.any time soon so this is when you think that a split does have to
:14:44. > :14:48.happen. Let's end with a wonderful man, Lord rix says he now is. I do
:14:49. > :14:51.not know if you have ever met the man. People of our generation will
:14:52. > :14:59.have seen him on television many times. The Sunday Mirror has a
:15:00. > :15:04.wonderful tribute, as do a number of papers. He was a great actor as you
:15:05. > :15:09.and I were growing up long before Sebastien was born, and had a child
:15:10. > :15:18.with Downs syndrome which could propel him into campaigning.
:15:19. > :15:22.Emitting a life peer in 1992. My wife who was appointed a Labour peer
:15:23. > :15:29.worked very closely with him. He was an extraordinary and effective
:15:30. > :15:34.advocate in Parliament for disabled people, now the House of Lords is a
:15:35. > :15:38.monstrosity democratically, people should be elected, but if you have a
:15:39. > :15:42.truly elected House of Lords and you will not get people like Brian rix
:15:43. > :15:47.going there. I am not saying there is an easy solution. But perhaps we
:15:48. > :15:52.should remember in our tribute to Brian rix that the House of Lords in
:15:53. > :15:56.its ludicrous way does allow people like him to play an important and
:15:57. > :16:01.positive role in our national life, which equally dead. He changed his
:16:02. > :16:07.views on his own experience, which he was open about. -- which he
:16:08. > :16:13.equally dead. He was against assisted dying until the last few
:16:14. > :16:15.months when he faced his own terminal illness and he wrote to the
:16:16. > :16:21.Lord Speaker and said I have changed my mind. A figure perhaps not well
:16:22. > :16:25.known to younger generations. Now but it is a very heartening story to
:16:26. > :16:30.hear about the campaigning and it is great to realise that Peter is right
:16:31. > :16:32.that having that strange mechanism in the British process the people
:16:33. > :16:39.who are passionate and have good views and can make a real difference
:16:40. > :16:43.is the House of Lords at its best. We should welcome that. It is great
:16:44. > :16:44.to see this tribute and find out about someone from an older
:16:45. > :16:47.generation who has had a big impact. Just a reminder we take a look
:16:48. > :17:12.at tomorrows front pages every Good morning. I hope you're having a
:17:13. > :17:14.pleasant Sunday morning.