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:00:18. > :00:21.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:22. > :00:24.With me are the broadcaster and barrister Sophia Cannon

:00:25. > :00:26.and the Deputy Editor of the Daily Express Michael Booker.

:00:27. > :00:30.Welcome to you both, let's have a look at the front pages tomorrow...

:00:31. > :00:32.The Times claims insurance companies are charging motorists over

:00:33. > :00:34.the odds for cover - despite a government crackdown

:00:35. > :00:37.on fake claims that has saved the industry half a billion pounds.

:00:38. > :00:40.The plans for restructuring parts of the NHS - hospital closures,

:00:41. > :00:42.cuts to services and helping patients to treat themselves -

:00:43. > :00:47.The Mirror carries the story of a British woman who it says

:00:48. > :00:50.is risking her life to rescue women and girls being held as sex slaves

:00:51. > :00:58.The Telegraph says Theresa May will invoke Article 50 -

:00:59. > :01:01.triggering the start of the UK's exit from the European Union -

:01:02. > :01:07.without getting consent from a vote in Parliament.

:01:08. > :01:10.An early Brexit is also on the cards according to the Express,

:01:11. > :01:13.which reports that plans to repeal the European Communities Act have

:01:14. > :01:18.already been drawn up and are "on the table".

:01:19. > :01:21.The Guardian leads on claims that universities are hiding the scale

:01:22. > :01:23.of sexual harassment on campus by using non-disclosure agreements

:01:24. > :01:32.While the FT says billionaire businessman and former BHS boss

:01:33. > :01:35.Sir Philip Green may pay less than half the money needed to plug

:01:36. > :01:42.the gap in the defunct high street chain's pensions scheme.

:01:43. > :01:51.Let's begin with that story, it is quite a momentous weekend. BHS is to

:01:52. > :01:56.close its doors for the last time. And, the Financial Times have a

:01:57. > :02:02.story there about plans to close quite a yawning deficit in pensions?

:02:03. > :02:07.It is massive, ?700 million. Equally, we have to look and see how

:02:08. > :02:14.it got there. Sir Philip Green sold the company for ?1. Basically, where

:02:15. > :02:18.is the money? 350 billion, sorry, 350 million, that is what he will

:02:19. > :02:21.put into the pot. He has spoken to regulators and

:02:22. > :02:26.trustees and they seem to like it. He has said he will sort it, he's

:02:27. > :02:30.gone quiet for a while, some papers will say, what is going on? They

:02:31. > :02:34.will target his wife who technically holds the purse strings, they are

:02:35. > :02:38.currently away on a yacht, understandably people have been

:02:39. > :02:43.getting to them, 20,000 people have their pensions at stake. Reading

:02:44. > :02:49.into this, there is an offer, Frank Field, the head of the work and

:02:50. > :02:53.pensions committee, says Sir Philip should hand over the money. They

:02:54. > :02:58.need to get it sorted quickly. The pension regulator wants it sorted as

:02:59. > :03:02.quickly as possible. If they hold out for 700 million, that will never

:03:03. > :03:06.happen. They will try to do the best deal they can, and save the face of

:03:07. > :03:11.the pensions regulator as well. He says he is going to sorted, we will

:03:12. > :03:15.wait and see whether he can come up with the cash. Within it, there

:03:16. > :03:20.seems to be sources saying that the offer is there, it is tentative at

:03:21. > :03:24.the moment. But, there could be joy for these people and their pensions

:03:25. > :03:28.will be saved. To a certain extent. There is a line that some pension

:03:29. > :03:37.experts have been consulted and they argue Sir Philip obviously inherited

:03:38. > :03:41.the company in the year 2000, and these debts predated his

:03:42. > :03:47.acquisition? That was my understanding but the Arcadia group,

:03:48. > :03:53.I believe, it was Topshop, Evans, and BHS was the jewel in the Crown,

:03:54. > :03:56.everybody loved it, people love to shop there.

:03:57. > :04:02.When it was sold, it had a huge deficit. People turned around and

:04:03. > :04:07.said, this is capitalism but carnivorous capitalism. It's not the

:04:08. > :04:11.whole idea that we see as being British. It is British home stores

:04:12. > :04:16.that has failed and it means a lot to a lot of people. This weekend is

:04:17. > :04:21.the weekend where it disappears from the high streets. People losing

:04:22. > :04:26.their jobs... Does ?350 million do anything to heal his reputation?

:04:27. > :04:31.He's been battered, he got a big duffing up in the work and pensions

:04:32. > :04:34.committee. There is talk of him going back and his wife being

:04:35. > :04:41.summoned there, I think the deal has to be done to save his reputation.

:04:42. > :04:46.He says he will sorted but we will wait and see. I want to live in

:04:47. > :04:51.society where 20,000 people, not only they have lost their jobs but

:04:52. > :04:57.their futures. It means a lot. The government has to step up or there

:04:58. > :05:02.will be others. Let's talk about the NHS, a story that has been with us

:05:03. > :05:12.throughout the course of the day. The i newspaper's FrontPage, they

:05:13. > :05:15.say "Patient, heal thyself", patients being coached over the

:05:16. > :05:24.phone and via computers as to how to treat themselves. All of the cuts

:05:25. > :05:29.that come with it, etc. Do we have two face up to the fact that we are

:05:30. > :05:34.an ageing population, growing as a population, and we cannot have the

:05:35. > :05:38.NHS we want unless we put more into it? Well, politicians don't want to

:05:39. > :05:42.say that we are going to get rid of the NHS, no politician would say

:05:43. > :05:48.that, otherwise they end up out of office quickly but these stories

:05:49. > :05:52.come up more often, you will see that there will be huge changes to

:05:53. > :05:57.the NHS and how it is funded. The access that we get to it, we will

:05:58. > :06:02.pay more for various things and services, you can see this. It

:06:03. > :06:08.sounds nuts, virtual appointments? Coached over the phone? Readers of

:06:09. > :06:16.the Daily Express, an older reader, in their 50s and 60s and 70s, they

:06:17. > :06:21.have paid in all their life and deserve that free treatment, when

:06:22. > :06:28.they want it and when they need it. Most people are not bed blockers,

:06:29. > :06:31.most people go only when they are ill, and if they can't get in when

:06:32. > :06:42.they are ill, if they are put off with virtual appointments and things

:06:43. > :06:45.like that, thinking of older people who rely on the NHS, a lot of them

:06:46. > :06:48.do not have the Internet and cannot do these things over Skype. It's all

:06:49. > :06:51.well and good saying this but it affects real people. It will get

:06:52. > :06:56.worse. If a doctor is telling you what to do over the Internet... Is

:06:57. > :07:04.it fair enough? Things are changing. The NHS has never been put down,

:07:05. > :07:08.it's about it you need it, it's there for you. The whole idea is

:07:09. > :07:13.that it is not even the national health service any more. It is not

:07:14. > :07:18.national, we have NHS England and NHS Scotland's run by different

:07:19. > :07:22.governments, it is not healthy. It is not about keeping well, it is

:07:23. > :07:27.prevention. I was going to say it is fair enough having a debate about

:07:28. > :07:31.how you spend money within the NHS and how you prevent some of the

:07:32. > :07:35.things people go to hospital for? Yes, it is the idea that people in

:07:36. > :07:40.each decade of their lives will need the NHS at different times, and how

:07:41. > :07:45.we approach it and educate people, how they make sure people do not

:07:46. > :07:49.misuse the NHS. It is a political football, it does not need a

:07:50. > :07:56.cross-party debate, take it out of the political time of war, face up

:07:57. > :08:00.to how we will fund it. I think every government has this problem.

:08:01. > :08:04.They get to this point every time but the ball is kicked down the road

:08:05. > :08:10.more. People don't want to know that they had to start paying for it. You

:08:11. > :08:13.cannot turn up and get the service when you wanted, that is what these

:08:14. > :08:20.stories Telus, these are being chipped away at. In a of

:08:21. > :08:25.generations, people will pay more for this -- in a couple of

:08:26. > :08:29.generations. You will be pretty angry about this, we pay through the

:08:30. > :08:34.nose for car insurance. They have cut down on fraud but are still

:08:35. > :08:40.charging the same amount of money? Yes, Chris Grayling, in 2013,

:08:41. > :08:46.brought him amazing reforms saying that we are the whiplash capital of

:08:47. > :08:48.Europe. Unbelievably, their necks of Britain are more delicate than the

:08:49. > :08:54.necks of Europe. There is the idea that many claims

:08:55. > :08:58.were fraudulent and un-meritorious. What we decided to do was lift the

:08:59. > :09:04.bonnet on how car insurance works. They brought down the costs, ?500

:09:05. > :09:08.million have been saved but, guess what? It's been passed on through

:09:09. > :09:12.the premium to the man and woman on the street. They are not just

:09:13. > :09:19.driving Miss Daisy, they are driving us all mad. We need this money back.

:09:20. > :09:25.It is chipping away at everybody's idea of what is fair, just and

:09:26. > :09:30.reasonable. They saved ?500 million and motor insurance prices have

:09:31. > :09:35.risen in the last 12 months? There is a call from the vice president of

:09:36. > :09:39.Association of Personal Injury Lawyers, their first duty is to

:09:40. > :09:44.shareholders. That is capitalism. This headline is the most

:09:45. > :09:49.unsurprising I've ever seen. Most people think that we are going to

:09:50. > :09:53.get ripped off, we are being ripped off. We get ripped off in every

:09:54. > :09:58.aspect of our lives, by various businesses. But insurers have never

:09:59. > :10:02.had the greatest reputation... Can't the government insist that they pass

:10:03. > :10:07.it on? The chairwoman of the Commons transport committee say that it was

:10:08. > :10:12.promised and it has not happened. Currently, she says, what will you

:10:13. > :10:18.do about it? They say, nothing. By law, everybody has to have car

:10:19. > :10:22.insurance if they drive. You cannot choose to have a car and not have it

:10:23. > :10:29.insured. There must be a select committee for that! Let's move on to

:10:30. > :10:35.your paper, the Daily Express. The world's greatest. There is a new

:10:36. > :10:40.move for instant EU exit. This is something put on the table by John

:10:41. > :10:45.Redwood, incredibly Eurosceptic as we know. He is saying that a lot of

:10:46. > :10:49.Tory MPs are more vocal about this because since the vote, it's gone a

:10:50. > :10:57.bit quiet. We have not jumped out of the EU straightaway. People are

:10:58. > :11:01.getting a bit and see -- uncomfortable and wondering what is

:11:02. > :11:05.happening. This would be the repeal of the 19th into two communities

:11:06. > :11:11.act, and instantly we would get out and say, OK, if you want tariffs on

:11:12. > :11:15.us, puts tariffs on us otherwise we will put them on you. As far as

:11:16. > :11:19.trade goes, they have two and pick everything else but there is a move

:11:20. > :11:27.now... I love how they glossed over it... It is fiendish. Luckily it is

:11:28. > :11:33.not me doing it! Human rights! Whether that happens or not, we are

:11:34. > :11:36.told article 50 will be triggered in the New Year by Theresa May's

:11:37. > :11:40.government but you can see there are those people in the Tory party who

:11:41. > :11:47.are still grumbling, why aren't we out the use yet? A majority of the

:11:48. > :11:51.house campaigned to remain. Unfortunately, the majority of the

:11:52. > :11:55.country wanted to get out. They campaigned in opposition to their

:11:56. > :12:05.constituents. The Daily Telegraph says that Theresa May will approve

:12:06. > :12:11.or go for article 50, this former way of getting out of the EU without

:12:12. > :12:16.a parliamentary vote. It was muted by remainders, many MPs said, we

:12:17. > :12:19.need a parliamentary vote. The referendum is an advisory from the

:12:20. > :12:24.people, we now need MPs to vote on it. The Labour leadership candidate

:12:25. > :12:27.Owen Smith went further on BBC breakfast this week, he said if he

:12:28. > :12:33.had to campaign for an early general election he would campaign on

:12:34. > :12:40.opposing Article 50 even before negotiations. Yet, 70 million people

:12:41. > :12:52.voted for it -- 17 million. People were upset, I would not reveal that

:12:53. > :12:55.now, but people, we should look at this closely. Many MPs believe that

:12:56. > :13:01.they were voted into vote for the best interests of the country. It is

:13:02. > :13:08.party before country. These votes come once in a lifetime and it is

:13:09. > :13:12.their duty to take it to the floor of the house. Is it an executive

:13:13. > :13:16.decision by Theresa May or a decision made by Parliament? You say

:13:17. > :13:19.they were elected to do the best for their constituents but they also

:13:20. > :13:24.agreed there should be a referendum in the first place, but not legally

:13:25. > :13:30.binding. It was never said at the time, was it? 70 million people with

:13:31. > :13:38.pitchforks will be banning -- banging down the doors of Number

:13:39. > :13:42.ten if it does not happen. This was small print, what does it mean, what

:13:43. > :13:47.were people voting for? I did not see small print when I went to vote

:13:48. > :13:59.on the referendum. Two big boxes, I had to take one! -- Tech one. We

:14:00. > :14:04.aren't out the EU yet. That's the big debate. In The Guardian

:14:05. > :14:10.newspaper, do we have any sympathy regarding the Burkini ban in France,

:14:11. > :14:14.and our French friends, and the public attitude? Towards women?

:14:15. > :14:19.Towards the Burkini. It is towards women's dress. Throughout history,

:14:20. > :14:22.how women dress signal so much about culture, and history. It signals so

:14:23. > :14:27.much about the laws and rights of women in that country. It's the

:14:28. > :14:33.whole idea that you can tell a woman watched where -- what to wear, I've

:14:34. > :14:38.never come across an issue where a woman is wearing too much. That's

:14:39. > :14:42.the whole idea. As feminists, I am one, we have campaigned to wear what

:14:43. > :14:46.we want when we choose. We live in a permissive society.

:14:47. > :14:51.Unless it is offensive, you can wear it. If you are saying a woman who is

:14:52. > :14:56.over covered up on the beach is offensive, we have lost a lot of

:14:57. > :15:00.arguments. Do we understand the French enough though? With this as

:15:01. > :15:04.well, I think we all understand the fear in France at the moment, about

:15:05. > :15:13.what has happened in the last couple of years. Look what happened in Nice

:15:14. > :15:17.and Paris, they are looking at Muslim people, and think there is a

:15:18. > :15:21.threat, you can see why they are looking at anything they possibly

:15:22. > :15:25.can to say look, we are trying to sort this out, the perceived threat

:15:26. > :15:29.they have. You can see why some of the mayors are scared, it is

:15:30. > :15:35.entirely wrong... Some are saying they will ignore red? Yes, -- ignore

:15:36. > :15:44.it. Public attitudes are on their side? But that is fear. It is.

:15:45. > :15:48.People had to look into history. It has echoes of history. I remember

:15:49. > :15:51.when I read my history books that the Jewish population were singled

:15:52. > :15:57.out for the way they dress and what they wore on their heads. That's the

:15:58. > :16:00.whole idea, that dress signifies something else. We have to draw back

:16:01. > :16:04.from that. If we go down this route, we have

:16:05. > :16:09.America looking at Europe. We were seen as a permissive

:16:10. > :16:21.society. Some women have their breasts on the beach in Europe. A

:16:22. > :16:24.final word, -- bare breasts. We have the front National waiting

:16:25. > :16:28.in the wings, this is going to come back again. It certainly will, I

:16:29. > :16:34.think it will. I am putting a marker down, I think it will come here in

:16:35. > :16:42.the next two or three years. This is an interesting story in The Times.

:16:43. > :16:49.Theresa May has demanded an audit of public sector data to see how races

:16:50. > :16:56.affected in the state -- race is affected in the state.

:16:57. > :17:05.I am a barrister of 15 years. How many black judges did you appear

:17:06. > :17:10.before? One. One black judge? I can name them. Do we need an audit, we

:17:11. > :17:16.know it already, don't we? The whole issue is doing an audit and it needs

:17:17. > :17:20.to be there. We need to know why more black and minority ethnic

:17:21. > :17:26.people are getting degrees but are less likely to be employed. Where is

:17:27. > :17:30.the merit? It is affecting the economy. You will have the audit and

:17:31. > :17:36.then the courts, the civil service and BBC will all be held to account?

:17:37. > :17:39.Journalism. According to this, once analysed the information will be

:17:40. > :17:44.available for people to foster public pressure for reform. You

:17:45. > :17:53.don't have enough black, you would be ashamed to say that? How many

:17:54. > :17:58.black journalists are in Parliament? Zero, it cannot continue.

:17:59. > :18:03.You have a black mayor and you do not have one journalist who holds a

:18:04. > :18:07.Parliament repast. You have to look at what is happening in this

:18:08. > :18:11.country. We have merit. It is a meritocracy, that is what made

:18:12. > :18:17.Britain strong. It will make Britain strong in the future. We have a new

:18:18. > :18:21.society where we have technology, we need maths and science, the

:18:22. > :18:25.undergraduates are there. Look at the NHS, you would think they would

:18:26. > :18:28.soak up so many bright graduates, the doctors and physicians.

:18:29. > :18:36.The chemists, they go into that area. Also, she is looking at white

:18:37. > :18:41.working class... They are not getting anywhere either, they are

:18:42. > :18:48.being left behind. Again, I went to... I was the only black child in

:18:49. > :18:53.my school, that sits with me, people contact me on Facebook saying, we

:18:54. > :18:58.went down the pits and were told they were jobs for life.

:18:59. > :19:03.Look at where we are now. She is trying to make the country work for

:19:04. > :19:09.everyone. Did it work. And such? Yes, it shone a light in our darkest

:19:10. > :19:11.places. Nobody wants to be called racist, or a bigot. Nobody wants to

:19:12. > :19:20.know he -- the society embedded in them is

:19:21. > :19:28.the one they live them. There will be a Royal commission on

:19:29. > :19:31.how we make society equal. We have mixed race children, Lewis Hamilton,

:19:32. > :19:36.Leona Lewis, look at the British Olympic team.

:19:37. > :19:40.I don't want to be cynical... Then don't be. They will make it

:19:41. > :19:45.available online to foster public pressure, but where does it come

:19:46. > :19:48.from? Surely, the MPs? We are running out of time, let's focus on

:19:49. > :19:56.the front of the Daily Mirror. Is Richard Branson to world to be -- to

:19:57. > :20:02.old to be careering down a road on the Virgin Islands on a bike... He

:20:03. > :20:07.hates publicity obviously does Richard Branson! There he was, he

:20:08. > :20:10.thought he would die, you saw his life flash before him... He's had

:20:11. > :20:15.adventures all over the world, this is the first time I've heard him say

:20:16. > :20:21.he thought he would die. He has fallen out of the sky... Maybe he

:20:22. > :20:33.has Jeremy Corbyn's hex on him! What I particularly like is that he is on

:20:34. > :20:38.this bed... With a beer by a well known brewer, and an intravenous

:20:39. > :20:42.something in his arm. He had to fly to Miami for more treatment. If you

:20:43. > :20:47.have a private island, you would think you would have a hospital in

:20:48. > :20:51.there. And the twist? It happened on the British Virgin Islands and it

:20:52. > :20:54.was not named by him! We are out of time.

:20:55. > :20:59.Thank you to both of you for your company this evening. Don't forget,

:21:00. > :21:03.all of the front pages are online on the BBC News website, read a

:21:04. > :21:06.detailed review of all of The Papers, that's there for you seven

:21:07. > :21:15.days a week on the website. And you can see us there as well. Thank you

:21:16. > :21:31.to both of you, goodbye for now. Good evening, it's a fine and one

:21:32. > :21:36.day across most parts of the country, the bank holiday weekend is

:21:37. > :21:38.now upon us as the weather shapes up to be mixed. This is how